Cole Clark Fat Lady 2

This is a 2006 Australian made Fat Lady 2. Queensland maple back, sides, and neck. Canada spruce top. Very thin low gloss finish. It's a big bodied dread, beautifully made. Came strung with elixers, but I took them off day 1. It has a great Cole Clark pickup system with a transducer at the bridge and another on the top. Quite chunky frets.
Simple, but it's beautifully built and very high quality.

I played a few of these, and they all sounded slighly different. They all use handpicked woods and the 7 or so I played all sounded similar, but the harmonics differed from guitar to guitar. I picked this one as to my ears the harmonics lined up better. All of them had were intonated well, but this seemed to have the cleanest voice, not that there was anything wrong with the others.

When I brought it, it had more of a bright strummy sound, great for fitting in with a band, less great for recording/solo gigs.
I have a Lowden for that stuff anyway.
However after about a year of hard playing, this guitar really started to open up. Now it has a gorgeous piano-like bass, huge projection and resonance, and still has the great clarity and brightness it started with. Due to the powerful EQ, I can easily pull out some bass when using it with a band, to take up less sonic space.

It's a dreadnought, so it's never going to do everything perfect, but it doesn't compress too much when strummed hard and has the string balance and projection needed for fingerpicking, making it a great all rounder.

I brought this almost as a second guitar, but once it opened up it's become my number one. A better tone than almost any other guitar I've played, regardless of price.

The factory setup was mint when I got it. It's been 3 years, and I haven't had to touch the intonation or the truss rod, it's like a rock. Mine developed a small crack in the side, which was probably made worse by a dry summer. My luthier fixed it under warranty and it's been fine.

It's been solid and has traveled well. No damage apart from the scratches that come with use. It's hardcase protects it very well.

I like to have a backup but I usually don't, so I bring spare batteries and strings and hope for the best.

Support has been great. All my emails have been answered fast, usually by Brad Clark himself.

My other acoustic is a 1985 Lowden O10. I also play electric guitar and have a few different amps and guitars.

When I brought the Cole Clark, I tried Larrive's, Taylors, Martins, Matons, a Breedlove and various cheaper guitars, Corts, Blueridges, Crafters.

This is insane value for money. It's not just good 'for the money', it's good full stop. It really does compare to the big brands, and beats most of them.

Dreadnought with no cut away and no pickup at all
Bunya pine top, back and sides
Ebony fret board and bridge
Queensland Maple Neck
Built like a violin with the neck first and then the sound box built around it.
Peg head fitted to the neck in a very strong looking uniqe way.

OK this is the good part. This thing sounds as good as a Maton Messiah! I am not joking. Find one in a music store and play it - you be the judge.The sound is simply balanced, sweet and clear and the guitar overtones ooze out of it -thats all I can say. With the bunya pine back and sides the sound quickly jumps out of the guitar which is what I wanted because I don't use it for amplified work very much. I did buy a fishman rare earth custom blend and fishman DI box (with EQ and all the rest) to go with it though which does make the guitar sound incredible when amplified I must say - which supprised me- I thought it might sound like it did not sustain very long but I was wrong - it does sustain well. Sounds the best with Elexier strings.

Action and fit were first class. This is a working mans guitar though - not a botuique thing. The dunlop frets are a little squarer than your average fret which would make them last longer I suppose. The finish is not perfect with two very slight flaws in it which you would not see on a $4000.00 dollar guitar. The neck is great.The guitar looks fantastic - I have had lots of people remark on how good the bunya pine looks.
The scallopped insides are not sanded out which does look a bit scrappy if you look inside the sound hole but I don't care about that.

Very durable. Built like a tank.

The action lifted by about 1/2mm or 19 thou after about 4 months. This I am told by Cole Clarke is normal and I gave the truss rod a tweek and it has been perfect for the last 4 months

Playing 22 years. This is definetly the best value in the world at the moment for a quality acoustic guitar. If you don't care about very slight imperfections this is the guitar for you.

My Fat Lady 2AC is a Dreadnought with a pickup and cutaway. It sounds amazing both unamplified and plugged in. From playing several Cole Clark acoustics, I am convinced that their pickup and preamp system, while ugly, is definitely the best I have heard. The Grover pickups are sturdy and smooth.

Mine is a special model with Bunya back and sides as well as a Bunya soundboard, with a queensland maple neck
-It looks great and has all the features i need or want- and its Australian!

I play a lot of styles, from slow rock like Jack Johnson, John Mayer songs and fingerstyle guitar. The guitar has awesome projection, and the all Bunya body gives it an extremely rich, warm sound with great articulation and full tone. The great 'presence' of the guitar is replicated and accentuated through my brothers AER Acousticube amp - it sounds absolutely fantastic. As well as the volume and 3 band eq, the preamp has a slider to adjust between both pickups, so it gives you quite a variety of tone.

The guitar was set up quite well from the shop, easy to play, with only marginal improvement desired. The woods are all great quality and looked great, the bookmathing has been done well. The satin finish feels and looks very good and all the hardware works well.

This guitar is a lot lighter than many dreadnoughts because no kerfing is used, among other things Cole Clark does, but it is actually quite solid and when you play it you can feel the guitar resonating. It is definitely solid enough to withstand live playing (just ask Jack Johnson). The hardware and strap buttons are solid, but the finish seems like it could wear thin after a lot of use. The longevity of this guitar and Cole Clark's in general is yet to be seen as they are a new brand, but it seems they are good.

The staff at the dealer I bought it from were very helpful, but I have not dealt directly with the company. The guitar did come with a 12 month warranty

I have been playing for a few years now, and have owned another Cole Clark FL2AC (got stolen, which is why I bought this one) I love the sound of the guitar, I have played Matons, Martins, Taylors etc but this Cole Clark matches and surpasses all of them. I seriously recommend!!!

I was a lamb to the slaughter, the neck on my epiphone had just broken for the 2nd time, 20 years, time to upgrade and I needed a guitar to come out of the house. The look of these guitars was different, they needed checking out. I couldn't help but think there might be value in the cost, new some different designs ideas, but they were expensive. The electronics on the thing worked so well, even I could tell the difference.

I play chords, nothing fancy, just songs everyone like, but stuff everyone, the're songs I like, and this guitar makes me sound so professional. I spent the day in guitar shop in Sydney,playing different prices, I could not get clear of cost but the bass sound was so superior and the adjustable pick up really allowed me to adjust the sound. At the end I dropped back down to around $500 and shit, I could really notice the difference

For me..it had a harder action that the epiphone but I have adjusted to it easily enough, the issue i have is my thumb gets a deep blister now when I let it sneek over do deaden the e string. As always once you get it home you spot things, There is a slight strip of fading of the wood around the edge, they might have left it out in the sun. But I call her BLONDY so I can live with it. I have convinced myself it was done on purpose as a shading...but I doubt it

Well I am out of the house and have my first gig. Its an Sunday arvo thing in a Bar in Phnom Penh. Its going through my old fender 85 amp via a locally bought(god knows)mixer and speakers. It sounds great and personally its the guitar doing it. The clean crisp sound I get is so much better than before, the only thing going wrong is my playing at times. BLONDY has got me out of the house and she's good enough to keep me there. As my playing improves I won't grow out of her.

Cannot comment - Cambodia is a long way from warranty

It might be that I feel BLONDY has let me out of the house but I am still learning to play her. I would easily buy another Cole Clarke, it feels like it has quality in it. The sales guy I had was another guitar player, who did not push me either way, offered to play it for me though, so I might have a way to go. Her looks are great- the electrics on it easily suit me and I can't see how they could be better, I am still learning how best to use the dual pick up to suit different songs, but it gets better evrytime I play

I have already stated all of this above...

By the way, the pick-up slider is great for achieving a massive variety of tones. Like nothing I have ever seen before.

I recieved my Cole Clark FL2AC 6 months ago, and I love it.

I custom ordered this guitar from the factory although I had to purchase it from my mate Dave at Billy Hydes Music in Blackburn.

I personally selected the bunya face for my guitar and the staff at 'CC' were very helpful in helping me choose my wood's for the desired sound I wanted.

I chose Bunya for the entire body of my guitar and Queensland maple for the neck. This is a great wood choice for anyone who wants to play anything from Acoustic rock to Progressive rock to Country. Great highs and low's and a little scooped in the mid's. A GREAT STRUMMING GUITAR, and not bad for a warm sounding finger-pick.

I didn't choose these woods for playing solo's! If you wan't to play solos, go for the FatLady 3 with the ebony fingerboard, and get rosewood back and sides, but stay with the bunya face (i'm not a fan of spruce)... I have just put this configuration on order.

I sold my 2 year old (all wallnut) Maton messiah which I bought for $6,000, to buy both these guitars and I still have change.

Maton were good in the 90's but their guitars just don't sound the same anymore... I was never happy with my Maton Messiah.

I optioned the extra pickup (the best pick-up system in the world by far) sound,s fantastic through a P.A. system or acoustic amplifiers, and I also upgraded to gold hardware, and had the guitar finished in a high gloss honeyburst finish and the FatLady 3 headstock. FANTASTIC!!! Oh yeah, and also the older style Block inlays because they look better, by far...

I give it a rating of 9 because it came with Elixer strings!!! Once I strung it up with DR Strings Phos/bronze strings the guitar came to life.

The setup was a little high for my tastes, and the strings a little light, but the intonation was dead on the money. After a quick setup no problems at all.

If you have the cash, I highly recommend getting the honeyburst high gloss finish. It is the most gorgeous thing I have ever seen. It might inhibit the natural tone of the woods slightly at first but after bout 3 months of play it comes to life, and it's worth the wait to have a finish like this.

I have been playing for 14 years, I was clasically trained for six years, and i'm not prone to giving praise for an instrumnet, but Cole Clark really know what they are doing and their guitars sound as good as the Pricey Martin's and Taylor's but less than half the price. They do sound different to Martin's and Taylor's though, which is great, as they are using Australian timbers.

I would never gig without a backup! No guitar is 100% void from string breakage, but as I use a heavy guage of string, I have never needed to use my backup.

The hardware is great, top quality.

I have had so many comments on the tone and finish of this guitar it is unbelievable. I was actually offered 3 grand cash for my guitar (in U.S. dollars) when I was in Sanfransisco after a gig, which I had to turn down as I had 3 more gigs.

The guitar is lighter than most and maybe more prone to breakage. But this is the price you pay for great tone. Besides, what kind of person would not baby something so lovely.

I have not had to contact "CC" as I have had no issues with the guitar.

But before sales service was fantastic, helping me choose my woods.

And they are really nice guys. As one of the employees told me: " Instruments that are made by musicians, for musicians".

I have been Playing for 14 years, clasically trained.

I would have to replace it if it were stolen as this is my livelyhood.

I own a '68' Fender Stratocaster, Gibson les Paul Custom, Gibson Les Paul (Joe Perry model), PRS custom 24 with Seymour Duncan JB bridge and Alnico 2 Pro neck pickups, and I have a Cole Clark FatLady 3 on order.

I own a Diezel VH4 100watt Stack (german 4 channel amp), Mesa Boogie Lone Star, Marshal DSL401 40watter, A Custom made PA system, and a variety of stomp boxes.

I am confident in saying that this guitar is a MATON killer... Watch out boys, you'd better lift your game.

As stated above, not worth repeating all the features and anyway many others have included this in their assessment. The features can be found on their web site as you would expect.

To finish this assessment I thought I would just ramble a bit. Remember, this is a solid wood guitar and it will sound better (or different) with age. From an aesthetic point of view these guitars may appear relatively plain to the eye. But when you look into the sound hole you can see the tool marks made from hand carving the bottom timber- not a big deal but I kinda like the look. When you scan the neck and various joins you are taken by the quality of workmanship. You will also note the light weight of the guitar, but when you strum or fingerpick your selection of music, you will feel the tone through your body. When amplified the sound is amazing. Try the others, then you will know what I am talking about.

Well the dude who earlier on in this review page, who chose to give these instruments a rating of 2, MUST BE OUT OF HIS TINY BRAIN. There can be no doubt that the rating given by that complete novice was because he must be a competitor to this company. Stands out like the proverbial DBs. Anyway, I have nothing to do with ANY guitar manufacturer, I just collect 'em and play 'em.

So on with the quick review: These guitars are absolutely bloody fantastic in every respect and they deserve to be placed among the world's best 3 or 4 makers at this very moment. The specs for my particular model are as follows:

FL2AC
Some of this is from the website but hell, saves me having to type it out:
All solid timber dreadnought with internally carved top and back
Natural satin finish
Neck- Qld Maple
Top- ?AA? grade solid spruce top
blackwood back and sides
Inlaid timber face edge and rosette, all timber binding
Solid rosewood bridge and fingerboard (block inlays)
Grover Machine Heads
Dual input Acoustic Pick up (DIAP)with a cutaway

* Dual Input pick up is Piezo type, bridge mounted and top plate sensor.

So what is it really like? The sound is deep and complex, the tonal quality never ceases to amaze. The pickup system cannot be bettered, and DI'd through the PA, this is awesome.

Martins, Taylors, Breedloves, Matons........you better lift your game boys, as whatever Brad Clark is doing in the manufacture of these instruments, he has got it RIGHT. The components are quality, so the need to wait 15 years to make a decision, as the moron said in the earlier post, is complete drivel.

This will get better with age.

Action perfect.
Elixir strings are a very good choice.
Timbers are stunning, without being over the top 'pretty'.
Finish and quality control is excellent all round.
I cannot fault it.

MADE IN AUSTRALIA, (not south east asia, or south america or anywhere else...Australia. Sounds better every time I hear it!

Whilst it is a light (as in weight) instrument, it is certainly made to play. Of course it will withstand live playing, but it will not stand up to playing a game of indoor cricket with. Superb, what else can I say.

The reputation of this company is catching up to the likes of Maton and the other international brands. Brad Clark is a real person and can be spoken with. The company stands by its product.

Been playing for many many years. I know a good instrument- I have heaps of 'em. Gibsons, Fenders, Ibanezs. I appreciate handmade American instruments but I am really impressed by the quality of instruments coming out of Korea and even China- so I am not a musical snob. I even acknowledge the great quality of the Japanese makes and copies over the past 30 years.

When it comes to acoustic instuments, sure Martin, Taylor, Larrivee, Maton, Breedlove (the handmade American stuff) are on the top shelf, but let me be clear on this: Cole Clarke have produced a phenomenal guitar. When compared to these brands, this Cole Clark guitar is an equal and I would even say better. GET ONE, YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT.

Fat Lady FL2AC, standard model (Solid Bunya Top, Indian Rosewood Back and Sides, Queensland Maple neck, Indian Rosewood Fretboard w/snowflake inlays, satin finish, dual-input pickups and active Cole Clark electronics, Grover Tuners, Elixir strings, Gator Case).

The sound was initially pretty bright, which like a stereo can give an unfair impression of its quality, but this was almost certainly due to the unusual coated Elixir strings it arrived with and the fact that it was brand new and had survived a long journey!

It has since settled and is the first guitar I have encountered that I have been able to play in every way I want to - hard or light strumming, gentle finger picking, or even hard, slappy pulled fingerpicking (where the strings deliberately rattle the frets on their return) a la Nic Jones - for this particular application it sounds fantastic!

The plugged-in sound is great, and variable from "woody" to the characteristic peizo jingle (which I have to confess I like for certain applications) and everything in between by balancing the two pickups. It cuts nicely through a band but I even now use the pickup mixed at a low level with a good mic as my preferred recording setup - I just love the clarity it adds.

It has that bass and treble heavy, slightly scooped tone that I would always look for in a guitar - when shopping for this one I tried (and was quite willing to pay out for) Collings, Lowden, Taylor etc but found the tones generally too delicate and voiced in the mids - I needed something with bass meat and room in the mix for a voice. The pricier guitars seemed to have been designed for solo playing only!

Action arrived a little high for me as a fingerstylist (but boy did it sound big and fat when strummed!). I had to lower it, and the easy-to-access (while the strings are on!) alan-key adjustment made that a doddle to sort out. Lost a bit of volume in the process but it's still louder than my other guitars. Otherwise everything about it radiated the word "neat". The tuning in particular is of high quality with an accurate and even movement with no sudden movements. The wood is to die for - the smell of that completely alien Aussie wood permeated the room for a good week when I bought it. I still smell it from time to time. Mmm...

I've thrashed this on stage through distortion (with a strap), played the most delicate fingerstyle through a microphone, played it in damp and smelly rehearsal studios and in the 35 degree sun. It's not let me down yet.

It turns out that the UK distributor, Dave Gander, is local, and I have found his customer service to be beyond impeccable and always willing to go the extra mile. He seems to enjoy being able to pioneer these guitars in the UK and will happily talk for hours about them! It came with the usual UK statutory 1-year warranty.

I've been playing for 16 years. Classically trained, then went through a big folk period and now play a mix of rock and dance music. I have played quite a few guitars, previous favourites having been the Fylde range (Nic Jones' favourites), and I've always been looking for that full, rich, meaty, jangly sound which responds well to aggressive fingerstyle. This comes close to the best I've heard in this context and if I had to I'd replace it it without a moment's thought - it has become irreplaceable in my armoury. It's not the only guitar I use - because it seems to be balanced for full-range response rather than solo use it works best when used as such - single notes cut through better on a smaller bodied guitar. That said, it's the nearest instrument I've ever encountered to the "one guitar you'll ever need".

Dreadnought, Queensland maple top and sides, grover tuners, pearloid inlays, really nice frets, low... but not too low action, dual input peizo/face sensor pickup configuration. Would like an optional condenser mic pickup arrangement but you can't have everything... that said, the pickup is a little bright natively but it has gotten better with age as the wood has mellowed out in the nearly 3 years i have owned it.

Initially the sound was a little too bright for me (i ordered a blackwood top but the wait was too long so i ended up with a QLD maple top) but it has mellowed nicely over time and is starting to develop a very nice wide range tone that "fits" a number of different styles. I have changed my playing technique to suit this guitar... i no longer use a pick but now use a two (and sometimes 3) finger technique to get the best tone out of this guitar and i've mastered the art of strumming with my fingernail. I find that i have more control over the percussiveness of this guitar if i use my fingers. Consequently i now play electric guitars in mainly fingerstyle and play with a pick on the odd occasion when i can find one.

Sometimes i don't like the tones generated when the strings slapback on the stainless steel frets but again it's something that will probably get better with time... I probably need to probably reset the curve in the neck to fix this - its minor really. I would consider this guitar to be a "picking" guitar and an adequate "strumming" guitar although it sounds better strumming with a fingernail (with the weight of a finger behind it). I envision that this guitar will come into its own in about another 2 years... five years all up... and i can't wait to hear it then.

The guitar emphasises the lower mid range (around 800hz) which translates nicely into a "background" type of sound which sits nicely behind vocals... well, my vocals anyway. Just the ticket really.

Pete Murray uses an FL1 in most of his recordings - which will sound identical to an FL2 - perhaps a little better because there aren't big-ass pearloid inlays in the neck... would be a purer "wood" tone because of this.

I sold a mid-range Takamine guitar before i bought this guitar because the high-e used to annoy the crap out of me but this guitar has a much mellower high-e, still a little bright for my liking but its getting better with age. For the record i play some difficult songs in my normal set so i tend to use 12's.

I played a 30 year old Maton dreadnaught about 4 years ago (which incidently makes it 34 year old guitar now - funny that eh!) which would've been QLD maple as well and it was just the most mellow beautiful tone you could imagine - not difficult to play at all... had an ebony fingerboard i think. So i hope i keep this guitar for another 30 years so i can OWN that tone as well. Same woods and better construction.

everything's perfect... an action which is both practical yet still make you work for it. Perfect.

i have gigged with this guitar and it does tend to break strings about every other gig. Sounds fabulous through a pa system but you do need to tweak it a little... i'm finding the tube compressor in native intruments guitar rig 2 to be one of the nicest compressors for this acoustic... i am very fussy about my compressors and would love some drawmer compressors (sponsor me Cole Clark! JK). sorry to be off topic there.

I can and have been pretty rough with this guitar but she's my baby so i need to teach her the hard lessons in life - haha.

i rang up Cole Clark BEFORE i bought my guitar and ended up chatting away to Brad Clark himself (while the receptionist took ill) and we ended up chatting away for about an hour about how he can change the soundboard's tonal characteristics using different CNC routing techniques (i'm a mechanical engineer and also a sound engineer so this stuff is actually interesting to me). I also took some happy snaps of Adam Cole being a techie for Tim Rogers and the Temperance Union a few months ago, getting up and bashing out Led Zepplin's rock and roll... and... although he isn't part of the Cole Clark anymore its good to see people plain and simply just ROCKIN OUT (man). I like this company but i'm afraid i've never had to use customer support - that's actually a GOOD thing.

I own a list of amps, pa gear and lighting and instruments as long as this,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow

guy's arm (i really need to get rid of some of it) and i always seem to pick up my FL2 first and have a strum or a pick - its not a perfect guitar but i like the fact its tonal qualities are a little different (maybe cos i'm a little different!) in that it empahasises the lower mids. it just makes it stand out... its a nice guitar to record either with the pickup or micing up with a good dynamic mic (condensers don't seem to work well with this guitar for some strange reason). But then again you can do so much in post production nowadays (for pop music) it doesn't really matter what guitar you record in the first place.

I'm not going to blow smoke up anyones arse its not the holy grail of guitars even for a hack like me - but its a vnicely designed and sounding guitar - it sure beats any other guitars i've heard or played... i can imagine this been a vnice guitar in as little as a few more years... warms my heart really...

It's made in 2005 in Melbourne!
It has a cutaway, THE BEST acoustic pickups, more on this later
It's all solid, mine's 'AA' grade solid spruce top with solid queensland maple sides and back. Maple neck with rosewood fingerboard
Mine also has the older block inlays, imo looks better it took me a while to get used to though. IT COMES WITH A SECOND STRAP BUTTON!!! I'm so sick of acoustic with only 1 button!
I'm only giving it a 9 because it doesnt come with a case!

Wow, from the moment i picked it up i knew it was going to be the guitar i wanted!
I played matons, taylors and martins around the same price (i was planning to pay up to $1500) and NONE of them come even close
Even if you like the other guitars better acoustically (maybe personal preference), theres NO WAY you can beat it when it's plugged in!
Cole Clark made great dual pickups that includes face sensors and one of the face braces is ACTUALLY a pickup! It sounds incredible u really have to play it...
Hmm coming from a seagull acoustic it takes some time to get used to the brighter sound, but i can't turn back now!
It keeps up with whatever i play, fast, slow, soft, hard, anything!
Hmmm I'll give it a 10 even though the nut, saddle and pins aren't of the best quality but this can easily be replaced!

This is where the guitar have the fall!
The finish is beautiful, but the set up could be improved.
The action is high (i guess it's good so u can adjust it to ur preference) and the frets can be done a bit better
Luckily troy fixed this all up for free!
Still, i think it's pretty good, but kinda letting down the excellent guitar

I've never broken a string on these (different story on the seagull)
But i did put some small dents on it
It has a very little amount of finish and you'll need to baby it!
Nowhere as fragile as seagulls though, breathing on seagulls dents it :|
Oh and at the spots thats in lots of contact with you will turn kinda shiny like normal finishes...
I'd gig without a backup... because i don't have another one :S
Nah, i'd definitely do without a backup!

The best customer support out of any guitar companies, Brad Clark himself will reply in less than 24 hours.
I've emailed him at least 5 times and he replied on the day or the next day.
He also offered to just come in for repairs if needed...
No flaws here!

Well, i'm kind of an extremely fast learning player that's been playing for 1.5 years... It's pretty much all i do nowdays.
I play covers (jeff buckley, radiohead, matchbox 20, pearl jam, etc) and originals, i think this guitar works for anything really! 10/10 from me, i think it's the best guitar under $2000, and maybe the best guitar full stop, but i can't say that because i haven't played many guitars above $2000 AUS!
If ur unsure about the guitar go to the website and email brad or try one at the store, if ur still unsure plug it into a p.a or decent acoustic amp, trust me!

FL2AC Bunya back and sides, Spruce top. All solid and AA quality.
Satin finish

Great finish and looks.

Sound - "sensational"

I think that it is impossible to beat on price for what you get, additionally depending on what sound you like (I picked a spruce top as its a bit brighter than the bunya {doesnt look as good though}should make the choice obvious.

Full sound and although I have nothing against guitars such as Taylors etc as they are very good, I'd suggest that branding is a lot to do with their price as compared to the Cole Clark guitars.

Great setup out of the box for me and no manufacturing faults. Great finish all round.

I'll have to wait for some time to see how it will last, I cant see why it wont go the distance with the type of construction used.

I always have a backup

I've been playing around 15 years. I use a Les Paul Custom, 73 Telecaster Deluxe and a Les Paul Standard.

If it were stolen I'd get another straight away.

I compared it to most of the usual suspects, Maton, Martin, Taylor, Garrison etc but for sound and value for money it won hands down!