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Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet

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Price New Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet @ Musician's Friend
Manufacturer URL http://www.avatarspeakers.com/
Features 8.6 (43 responses)
Sound Quality 8.9 (42 responses)
Reliability 9.3 (28 responses)
Customer Support 9.8 (40 responses)
Overall Rating 9.1 (43 responses)
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Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: US $391 w/wheels and S&H
Submitted 05/30/2004 at 03:47pm by Anonymous

Features : 9
Features are great! has everything i need. From Funk to Slap to Jazz. Everyone that sees my rig think it looks cool until played. then they are surprised by this 410. it carries 1,400 watts rms of bottom end. i use a crown xs 500 and it cranks out 1,600 watts bridge. i'm always turn to because i'm too loud. but easy adjusted. i was always to soft or can barely hear myself play.

Sound Quality : 10
the sound is amazing. i can be very low, or brittel. brittel sounds awesome when you slap, or when you use a pick. when i turn down the horn to like a quarter, it sounds very deep and think, like jazz. i have a fender 4 string and a rickenbacker 4 string. pretty soon a conklin 6 string.

Reliability : 10
this thing has taken a beating. i have 4 bands (not including jazz band for highschool, drumline for high school, and marching band for high school) and it just kicks ass. the corners are barely starting to shred down. i take it every where.

Customer Support : 10
i haven't had to deal with DAVE. this rig is a tough cookie. when i order, it was me calling, then sending money, then recieving in less then a week, great service.

Overall Rating : 10
i've been playing for 3 years and 6 months. my gear is as said from top to bottom.
rackmount case 8u and a 6u
furman pl-pro 20 amp conditioner
korg DTR-1000 tuner
sansamp RBI preamp
DBX 215 EQ
DBX 166 compressor
BBE 482i sonic maximizer
Crown xs 500 power amp (1600watts bridged at 4ohms)
Avatar B410 cabinet

Ricken backer 4 string
Fender 4 string


Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: US $339
Submitted 05/07/2004 at 11:06am by Anonymous
Email: vertilli at hotmail<dot>com

Features : 9
Just got this amp a short time ago. 4 ohm option. SUPERIOR construction! Solid wood with reinforced corners and a full-strength, diamond pattern steel grill covering the speakers. Has 1/4" inputs on the back. The reason I give this cab a 9 vs. a perfect 10 is this: 1) there's a distinct lack of information on the rear plate - I'd like to at least be told what is what and have some techinical info about what the small dial is for! (its for the tweeter) and 2) I really wish Avatar would invest a bit more money and have a switchable ohm load option. I bought the 4 ohm version simply because I knew that I'd most likely only ever have 1 cab and I wanted to be able to take advantage of all the wattage my small amp could deliver. I only have 200watts available to me @ 4 ohms. If I'd gone with the 8 ohm version, I'd have less than 120watts unless I spent more money and bought an extension cab. Oh well, it was a choice!

Sound Quality : 10
I play an active Carvin B4 with flatwounds. I spent the better part of a month traveling to various music stores around my part of the world with this rig/amp under my arm playing it through various cabs. I can HONESTLY say that the only cab I heard that I liked a bit more (and it was a *small* bit more) was the Ampeg PR-410HLF - of which, the cheapest price I found was a bit less than $1050!!!

Reliability : No Opinion
I haven't had any problems yet - less than 3 months ownership - but I can't see any coming, either. This thing is built like a bank valut!

Customer Support : 10
Dave is the best! He helped me arrive at my decision on ohms and features and was never short tempered or quick with me during the four times I called! I can't recommend Avatar and Dave highly enough!

Overall Rating : 10
I've been playing off and on for over 12 years. I've owned Ampeg and Peavey amps prior to this and neither were as satisfying as this rig is now. I can literally shake the crap off the shelf with this setup! And the TONE! INCREDIBLE!

If this cab was stolen, I'd replace it without hesitation.


Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 04/24/2004 at 04:44am by Anonymous

Features : 5
Standard front bottom shelf ported 4x10 with adjustable horn. I think I purchased mine new sometime 2001/2002. Looks nice and feels pretty indestructible. Problems... WAY too heavy for an inexpensive 4x10. My 2x15 is lighter. Metal recessed handles are uncomfortable and placed so that the front heavy cabinet is unnecessarily awkward to carry. Hurts your hands/wrists to carry by yourself (leaves marks), wants to fall forward when carried with a buddy. If you have your heart set on buying one of these, make sure you get the casters. Back panel is a cheap piece of thin soft metal and the knob sticks out far enough where it can easily be damaged. These design issues could easily be corrected for next to nothing, yet they're still there.

Sound Quality : 7
This cabinet sounded great in a bi-amp situation with my Hartke 2x15, powered by a GK800rb. Solo, not so good. I thought my 75 Jazz had developed dead spots.... turns out it was the cabinet. Some notes loud, some notes not. Claims to be 1400 watts RMS... it might be if you don't play the e string below the 7th fret. My GK is 300 watts. With the volume at around 5 and the bass eq turned up only an extra 1/8, the cabinet would distort and make me fear blowing the speakers. My drummer hits light with 7a's and this cabinet couldn't cover him. My advice to any current owners is to rip the worthless horn out. You'll increase the lacking low end around %10(still not enough) with the extra port hole. You get what you pay for with this cabinet.

Reliability : 8
The top input jack ceased to function after only 6 months. Luckly it didn't happen to me while mid song at a gig. This cab was babied, never dropped, kicked, etc. Speaker cords were never yanked on or out. I'm baffled as to what went wrong. I give it an 8 because the lower jack still worked.

Customer Support : 10
Dave is the greatest guy ever. I bought this new off ebay and his communication was stellar. Shipping was extra fast and the packing was very, very solid. Plus, Dave left me wonderfully kind positive feedback. Excellent, excellent, excellent in this department.

Overall Rating : 7
I've been playing bass for 14 years, and have been gigging and recording regularly for the last 12 or those. Before this cabinet, I've always played 2x15's... I became bored of the tone and decided to try something different. The biamp set up sounded great (with the 2x15), but ended up being way too much stuff to haul. I tried playing this thing on it's own and it just couldn't cut it, plus it just totally sucked to carry. So I sold it. Ended up buying an SWR Triad instead and couldn't be happier with that decision. The triad is roughly the same size, lighter, louder, much, much more balanced and responsive, plus... super easy to transport. The used Triad was just a little over $100 more than the new Avatar(including shipping), and is infinately better. This marks the last time I buy anything without hearing it first. I give this Avatar B410 an overall score of 7 with the idea of 1 being a broken 50 watt practice amp and 5 being a Peavey TNT. My advice; save your money and buy something better.


Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: US $390
Submitted 04/09/2004 at 11:36am by miles karp
Email: kilometr5 at aol<dot>com

Features : 9
2004 Avatar B410 cab. 1400 watts Rms. Four Eminence Delta tens front slot ported. 2 1/4 inch inputs and tweeter level knob on the back. I wish it had Speakon because it would give more options, but this cab is sweet!

Sound Quality : 10
This cabinet sounds amazing. I put it to the test with my friends Ampeg 610 cab and it held it's own. Amazing tone. Anything from sparkly highs, transparent BALANCED mids (hard to find on a cab!) and surpringly good lows. I couldn't believe a cab at this price could sound this professional! you can literally get just about any tone you want on this cabinet. If you turn the tweeter knob up to high (past 1/2 way) than it gets a little hissy, but ive never seen a cab that didnt. A little heavy, but compared to Eden or ampeg its a light load. This cabinet is better than any other 410 box ive played through hands down, including eden 410XLT. The only difference is the XLT projects more bass on stage because of the extra port up top, but I love this cab more than the Edens!

Reliability : 10
Avatar's Service is unsurpassed. When i got my cab, one of the magnets shifted in transit and it sounded distorted on the upper left ten, but I called Avatar, Dave picked up on the first ring and shipped me out a new one FREE of charge AND shipping. Other thn that (which was NOT his fault, it was FedExs) i havnt had a problem. Ive owned it for about 5 months and its been from Georgia to NorthCarolina To Wash, DC and all over the south eastern region and it still works great!

Customer Support : 10
Unbelievable service. I mean unbelievable. When I had the problem with my ten, i called dave, he shipped me a new one no questions asked. No anwer service, no holds, no transfers or frustrating waits. It was immediate. When we found out that that speaker had the same problem, i called him again, and he OVERNIGHTED me a new ten for free. I put it in, works fantastically! Try getting that kind of service with hartke aweful service) or SWR. Youll be on the phone with those guys all week AND they made me pay shipping! Should be a rating of 12 for this one.

Overall Rating : 10
Ive been playing for 2 years. I started on a hartke 210 can and a 15 which was ok, but when I got in a band i needed better and more efficent speakers than i had. I did some research and found avatar. I figured id buy a 410 for under 400 dollars, and if i didnt like it i could return it and get a refund. NO CHANCE! you couldnt pry this think away from me. Im going to buy the 15 when they get restocked. I lover the fact that its a totally unique Cab. The sound is unique. SWR doesnt have it, neither does eden. The sound with my bass (MusicMan Sterling 4 string) in ungodly. I still use Hartke amps (3500) and it sounds amazing. The cab is 1400 watts but can easily take much less power and still sound outrageous. with my 350 watt amp, i normally play on 3 or 4 with a drummer and two guitarists and it sounds fat and punchy! once i get my 1400 watt QSC power amop and eden preamp, im going to add the Avatar B15h and its going to sound like i am the GOD OF THUNDER! haha.
I chose avatar because honestly, it was cheap. Im not rich, and i figured if it sucked id send it back because of their guarantee. everyone should seriously take a long hard look at this cab. For the kind of quality and service you get out of 400$ you seriously cant go wrong!


Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: US $381 (shipping incl)
Submitted 03/26/2004 at 01:33pm by Vincent S.

Features : 10
Avatar B410 4-ohm cab. Most likely made in extremely late 2003 or most likely early 2004. Purchased it in February 2004. Has the Speaker-On jack and 2 x 1/4" jacks. You can find the exact features on other reviews or on the avatar website: www.avatarspeakers.com. Looks great. Yes, it's not tolex, but the black carpet is really nice looking and the black grill is AWESOME. The pictures on the website DO NOT do it any justice at all. You owners of this item know what I mean!

Sound Quality : 10
I play an Ibanez SRX400 that has a PFR-AL alnico magnet pickup and PHAT II active bass boost through an Ampeg B5R (350W @ 4ohms / 500W @ 2ohms). Mostly for alt/modern/heavy-ish rock type sound. It handles it superbly. I've tried out the Ampeg 4x10s, SWR 4x10s, and the GK 4x10s with my same amp and I'd have to say that I like the Avatar much better than the SWR and GK easily. I only like the Ampeg 4x10 more as it can get audibly lower than the Avatar but the cost makes me forget about that quite easily. Don't get me wrong though. I play a 4-string bass so I personally feel the Avatar does the job very nicely! I knew the B410 wasn't going to give me the lows of a 15", but I'd have to say that it still rocks the socks off of me and my bandmates (a loud drummer, plus a loud lead, plus a loud Marshall AVT150H half stack!). I'm going to add the B115 very soon for a total rig when I need that crazy, all-out sound. But I've gigged with the Avatar B410 for about 5 gigs now with rooms from small to large, and it has fit the bill everytime. No complaints at all. My Ampeg B5R is made for overdrive and it outputs it greatly. I can go from super smooth (clean channel only) to warm, fat overdriven sound and the Avatar doesn't flinch at all. The only time the Avatar starts to even show signs of peak is my fault when I put on massive overdrive on the B5R (trust me, I don't know WHY anyone would want that much overdrive aka farting, but the B5R gives you that option). But when I dial it in just right, from warm to overdriven aggressiveness, the Avatar comes through like a champ. As for the hiss comments some people make, I believe it's mostly the amps doing, and only a bit of the Avatar's. Of course, it is hardly anything compared to the crazy hiss/hum of the rhythm and lead guitar and in rehearsal or on stage, it's inaudible. But there is some there at high amounts of gain and if I can't stand it, I just turn the tweeter-setting down on the cab even lower or I turn down the treble a bit on my amp. Overall, the B410 sounds like it can handle much more than my Ampeg B5R can reasonably throw at it. Conclusion: Sound for this cab? Superb.

Reliability : 10
Used for two months heavily and it is super dependable since the day I got it. Use it on gigs without even a slight feeling of needing a backup. I think only sheer negligence would cause this baby to break down any time soon. The sheer weight alone makes you think this! I guess that is the only thing I kinda would've wanted to have less of, but hey, you want the good stuff? Ya gotta deal with it. The connection plate and connectors on the back are of great quality and are solid. No cheap stuff on ANY part of the cab. The casters they send are perfect. I hate casters that are solid plastic. These are super-hard rubber and make lugging this thing a breeze. I strongly suggest getting these casters! Easy to install. Conclusion: Ultra reliable.

Customer Support : 10
Customer support, just like everyone says, is far beyond excellent. It is as supportive as you can get from any company, any time, any where. Dave and company are pleasant to deal with and go out of their way to give customers what they want. Period. HIGHLY COMMENDABLE!

Overall Rating : 10
Fantastic value all around. I haven't been playing bass for too long but I am a gear fanatic. I research the CRAP out of everything and spend my hard-earned cash on stuff I like and would recommend. The Avatar B410 fits all my requirements for a price that I thought I would pay SO much more for. Excellent. I can understand if you are thinking "I don't buy anything I can't see, hear and touch". Well, I felt that way too. But after reading all the high praised reviews, I felt it was very low risk to go with Avatar. And knowing what I know now about it since I now own it, check this out: It's no risk at all. If you are looking for value plus no-excuses comparability to all the cabs available out there, rest assured, it is just that. I would even go out of my way to say that even with all value aside, the difference between this cab and the other cabs gets down to personal preference of sound. It is that comparable. Enough said.


Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: US $381 (after shipping)
Submitted 03/13/2004 at 01:05am by Jon

Features : 10
I got the 4 ohm cab. Has speakeron and 2 input-output jacks. All 3 go in and out. (makes it easy.)

Sound Quality : 10
I Play anything from soft rock, to hardcore metal. I use an ampeg svt 3 pro. They sound great together. I was able to dial in a good sound quick. I couldn't believe how much low end it had. I was expecting not very much. But wow. Very low.

Reliability : No Opinion
N/A

Just got it

Customer Support : 10
Very nice. I knew what I wanted called it in on monday, GOT IT WED!!!! QUICK!!!!! Couldn't believe it...

Overall Rating : 10
I have been playing for I've been playing around 5 yrs. I've played out of: ampeg 8X10, peavey 1X15, Carvin 1X18, Carvin 1X15, AMD 1X15, Ampeg 2X10, Peavey 1X12, and a lil fender practice amp. I love this 4x10. Very versital, I really like my svt 3 head also. I did not like the carvin 1X18. I borrowed the amp for a show and had it blow on me. The volume was prolly a third of the way... sad. I liked the ampeg 8x10, but it was way to big. Really hard to bring up stairs and a pain all around. I liked the sound I had out of the peavy 1X15. All the other amps... ehh..

The only thing I wish was different.... I wish it weighed about 30 pounds less. Its hard to carry around. I put casters on it right away. Other then that. Its got great highs and great lows. Very happy with it.


Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: US $381-shipped
Submitted 03/12/2004 at 03:25pm by Anonymous

Features : 9
B410 built 2003 purchased new. features a 3/4 inch PLYWOOD cabinet with strong dadoed joints and is loaded with four heavy duty American Made Eminence 10 inch DELTA Bass Speakers and Foster tweeter (with adjustable volume pot). These Eminence Delta 10's have 56 oz magnets and 2.5 inch voice coils and are rated at 350 watts RMS each speaker. The four 10's combined are rated at 1400 WATTS RMS.

I am with holding a perfect 10, since they don't offer twistlock connectors--even as an option.

Sound Quality : 10
I play a Warwick Corvette Standard 6, with active p/ups. I run it from my Carvin R1000 head (giving it the full 1000 watts) and have no problem keeping up with guitarist half stack and keyboards and vocals. I just go straight into the amp>>cabinet, no effects.

The cabinet produces lots of punch, it keeps up with exuberant rock buddies, but also has the capabilities of producing a nice round jazz sound for my jazz combo.

I usually have the horn at about 25%.

Reliability : 10
I treat my gear well, but this thing seems like it was built to last. I have had it 8 months, gigging around 1-2 month, rehearsing 1x week. Not a single issue.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Only heard good things, but to this date have not had to use customer support.

Overall Rating : 10
How long have you been playing? 18 yrs.
If it were stolen or lost, would you buy it again? absolutely!!!
what do you love about it? awsome bang for the buck, but also quality for the buck.
What do you hate? not having a roadie.
Did you compare it to other products? yes, Carvin, Ampeg, SWR
Why did you choose this one? Largely, due to its positive online feedback. I am happy to add my stamp of approval to this list.
Anything you wish it had? speakons
Anything else you'd like to share? I am saving for a second cab. still undecided, B115 or B212.


Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: US $250 used
Submitted 02/18/2004 at 08:12pm by Marty Andrews
Email: marty dot andrews<at>insightbb dot com

Features : 10
Our band plays everything from classic 60's rock to funk to modern dance music with lots of low end. We play from small clubs to outdoor events and everything in-between. I've found this cabinet is able to crank out any sound I can send it...the only limit is me.

Sound Quality : 10
I play a stock Rick 4003, running a wireless bug into a Peavey 350w digital power amp. My effects rack includes a Behringer Bass V-Amp Pro (with midi pedals), Behringer DSP2024P processor and an ART 31-band EQ. The sound coming from my Avatar 410 is clean if I want it clean, punchy if I want it punchy, and booming if I so choose. I'm up against a guitar player with a Marshall 100w half-stack, and he tells ME to turn down. In my opinion, the sound coming out of these speakers match or exceed an Ampeg 4X10 cabinet.

Reliability : 10
The cabinet is sturdy, and I have no doubt it will hold up under almost any conditions. I have two backup cabs, but really have no need of them.

Customer Support : 10
Everybody is right...DAVE (owner) handles everything personally. I've never had an issue with my cabinet, but I have had to write for information about this and that--I always receive a prompt response that addresses my inquiry directly. No BS.

Overall Rating : 10
I've been playing bass for 35 years. Over those many years, I've tried all kinds of cabinets--from Fenders to Kustoms to Peaveys to Ampeg to Hartke. The Avatar speaker is hands-down the best sounding cabinet I've gotten my hands on.


Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: $ 520. (Canadian)
Submitted 02/10/2004 at 01:21pm by Rick.b

Features : 8
This bass cab is quite loud. I only wish it had some other kind of connectors like banana plugs or speakon to loose as little signal as possible. Also casters ought to be removable but i also know these two features would bring the price up. The cab itself is solid and should last a long time. The tweeter sounds good but less is best. I use about a quarter of the tweeter output and the sound is very pure and does not distort at all. Very easy to get that old school sound when backing off the tweeter control.

Sound Quality : 10
The sound i get is very satisfying, i mean i love the low frequency i get from my Eden cabs but it seems to me that the Avatar sound is easier to hear, the frequency it puts out is very clean and hits you in the chest like a ton of brick. I play mainly blues and some old style rock ( Cream and Clapton ) and this cab is very clean. I'm sure that if i played more agressive music this cab would be up to it. I'm currently playing Deluxe American and Mexican Fender Jazz Basses through an Eden WT 800 or an Ampeg B2-R head and the sound is just awesome.I'm even thinking about selling my 2 Eden D-410 XLT because i also have an Avatar B-210 cab so i don't need that many cabs. So for these reasons and my experience ( 32 years playing music ) i'm rating this cab a 10.

Reliability : No Opinion
I've had this cab for about 2 months now so to be honest i don't really know the reliability, but given the short time i've had it, my B-210 i've had for 4 months, it ought to do the job. As for using it without a backup i never do that so no use in answering this question. Anyway i use both cabs so if one breaks down the other cab will do the job very nicely regarding the fact each one plays so loud. So for this reason i'm giving a no opinion vote.

Customer Support : 10
For having dealt directly with Dave and others i can say the Customer Support is very good. The first cab I bought I had it sent through FedEx ground and the money order i sent did not cover all the transport( i live in Montreal, Canada )but i didn't know i had some extra charge for this but they sent the cab anyway, and the next time i phone in to order the B-410 i told Dave that it cost more than the first cab so that's when he told me and he also told me that he sent it anyway. So for this reason i'm giving a ten.

Overall Rating : 10
As i've said i've been playing for 32 years and i've owned quite a lot of bass gears, Acoustic, Peavy, Electro-Voice speakers and what i love about this cab is its efficiency, i could use a 200 Watts amp and i'd have enough power to hear myself. Of course i compared it to my Eden cabs but since my Eden are 8 ohms and this cab is 4 Ohms i couldn't compare them one on one but i can say that the loudness of one B-410 is about the same as two Eden cabs in parallel, so i save on the weight of my rig( i don't have roadies ). For all these reasons i'm giving this category a 10.


Product: Avatar B410 Bass Cabinet
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 09/18/2003 at 08:28am by Ryan
Email: ryanalley at hotmail<dot>com

Features : 10
Excellent features! 4-ohm model. Speakers, tweeder, port, and grill all very nice and solid. Everything down to the corners are great on this cab!

Sound Quality : 10
I play using a Peavey 4 Grind NTB through a Hartke 350 Watt head. Sounds GREAT. Wow! FULL range covered (especially if you have a nice pre-amp with eq. included with your head). Tweeder can be non existent or amazingly loud. I play a HUGE range of music and it fits me about perfect for every one. Works great for slap and pop or punk or jazz or anything. My only complaint would be there is a little distortion when I absalutely crank it (and I do have a big head, so it'd understandable.) Also, this is probobly my fault considering I got the 4-ohm model when I should have got an 8-ohm. (What can I say?).

Reliability : No Opinion
Haven't had to get it repaired or anything, doubt I will. It's very solid.

Customer Support : 10
Dave is AWESOME. Shipped INCREDIBLY fast half-way across the US! Was packaged great!

Overall Rating : 10
What a great cabinet! I'm definatley going to invest in a B215 for Christmas, not that I need it, because this thing is LOUD!!! This is seriously a true story: I was playing in a punk band, ending a phrase on a certain note, and the cabinet actually WALKED ACROSS THE GROUND because of the MASSIVE vibrations the thing was putting out! It actually managed to move itself despite the fact it ways 110 lbs with the head!!! How AWESOME is that? VERY impressed and happy! And don't even get me started on the VALUE compared to any other cab company.

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