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Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: USD 500
Submitted 02/20/2008
at 08:28pm
by shedshrine
Ease of Use
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No Opinion
Plug in your signal chain into the line level inputs, get a decent level, hit a foot pedal when your ready to start recording and once again to stop. Next channel repeat, etc..overdub or replace to taste.Bounce a mixdown to a new track to continue if you want to leave the original four on separate tracks for later.
Sound Quality
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No Opinion
I have always liked its sound quality. It is not pristine, it colors the sounds smooth and sweet and dare I say a bit analog. The noise issue isn't one if you give it a strong signal through the line inputs, not the front instrument input.
It really is one of my favorite pieces I own.
Reliability
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No Opinion
Mine has worked pretty flawlessly once you get ahold of the all important correct hitachi controller flash card. I got a 512mb (highest size the repeater can take) industrial grade metal encased Pretec card online, and the site said they were being discontinued when I talked to them while placing the order.
My young daughter took a shoe and whacked the left encoder sideways, but if I press it down while turning it still works.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
They died, and attempted ressurection twice, and have now quit officially this month (Feb of 2008)Though it looks like a third party (condor electronics) is going to continue to service their products and offer the newest repeater software upgrade for $129 as last posted on the electrix forum. I'm just glad I got ahold of one.
Overall Rating
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No Opinion
Had never heard of electrix. I bought it new at a vendor street fair for a "one day discounted price" after breifly checking it out and being really impressed.
I really enjoy kick starting songwriting with the repeater. Any riff you've got in your head, boom, it starts looping and you start building. Experimental music is a forte for these too as you can pitch up and pitch down for speed up slow down effects, and get strange otherworldly atmospherics playing an individual or all tracks back at the extreme settings.
I like that you can record a track in mono or stereo and still have the other three available. You can create a very sparse 4 track ditty or overdub like a madman, or just mix down the four to a track on a new loop and continue, thereby leaving the original tracks if you want to mess with them later. Very immediate, very well laid out interface.
It really is in it's own class. I'm going to spring for the software update if it actually continues to be available and start experimenting with it's midi capabilities. I've got their warpfactory, filterfactory and mofx units as well. Love em.
My wishlist would have been eight tracks which would have required a reworking of the unit so it could use the much faster compact flash cards currently readily available. Maybe there will be a third attempt to reinstate their product line...
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $450
Submitted 09/15/2004
at 02:51am
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
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9
Well, this is a powerful tool, so you won't just install it and access all functions without any learning time as a first-timer. Apart from that, UI is fine "by comparison".
The front panel's layout is very logical and intuitive. If you've ever used a small mixer and a tape deck, you'll understand the repeater. There are lots of dedicated buttons, a very logical (albeit simple) display, and lights to indicate the status of any buttons. Some of the more "advanced" functions require two-button-presses, and these are not logically assigned and written in light blue on slightly less light blue on the front panel, so no chance to read it in club-style lighting conditions.
Connectors in the rear are all in one row, so no problem to plug cables blindly in a rack installation.
Programming a MIDI foot controller for this thing is a little tricky, simply because some functions (you can access all of them via MIDI) require program change messages, some controller messages, some note messages, some work with several of them.
Still, for a device this powerful, the ease of use department really shines!
Sound Quality
:
7
I'll use this header to write about functions (and their limitations also):
First, about the sound quality: I personally had never any problems with the sound quality, speaking from a "effects rack in a studio setting" standpoint. What I understand is that you get huge amounts of noise when feeding a device with high internal resistance (like a guitar with passive electronics in conctrast to active electronics or a mixer) into it...which is kind of a letdown, as one would expect to use such a tool in a guitarist's style setting (i.e. no mixer). Solution: put it in the effects loop of your amp, or use it behind your floorboard or whatever.
Compared to other real-time-loopers, this is an extremely advanced device, offering features no other looper has. These include.
* four tracks for independent recording, overdub and processing/mixing
* pitch shifting and time stretching (the former independently for all four tracks)
* an effects loop with resample feature OR four independent outputs
* A wonderful varispeed feature, where you can pitch the thing like a tape with a foot controller
Many people have already written about the features, so I'll concentrate on a few problems which seem important for me.
1. You cannot record a loop, and go into overdubbing immediately. What does that mean? Say, you're playing a four-bar guitar part into the repeater. At the end of bar 4, you hit the record or play button again. The repeater stops recording and starts playback at the beginning of the loop. What happens is that a sound still sustained is thus apruptly cut off, and you cannot continue playing into the loop after another press of record.
Workaround: for the "sustained notes cut off"-phenomenon none really. You could record an empty track, close it and then start overdubbing into it (after the first overdub, you can just stay in overdub infinitely). Not very intuitive or "real-time". A big drawback!
2. The repeater's internal MIDI clock is extremely unstable. Apart from your music becoming not very tight in the process, lots of effects you might have MIDI-synced to the Repeater might react with audio glitches (like i.e. the TC FireworX). Workaround: sync the repeater to another clock source (I use a Eventide Eclipse w/ software 3.00) - but then you lose the varispeed option. And don't use the ploytec 34one pedal, it will put repeater's tracks 1 and 2 into stereo link upon startup!
A word of caution is due regarding the CF cards. Electrix listed a few card manufacturers whose cards they do recommend. I used some of them (i.e. a SanDisk one) and had CFC TOO SLOW messages even when not stretching the specification too much. The trick is to use a CFC with a Hitachi controller, so make sure to get one.
Ah, and lest I forget: fitting the thing with (MB of internal memory is a joke! 64MB would've been more like it...
Point 1 from above really gives a big "down" in this category. Point 2 might also not be acceptable for someone using a smaller rig (like with a Repeater and a FireworX).
Reliability
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10
never had any problems. also no startup failures/lockups or something.
I trust it.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Overall Rating
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8
Too bad Electrix just fell short of creating perhaps the greatest looper available. From my working methods, the "can't go into overdub immediately" flaw (see above) really drops it some levels for me...and the clock thing is another issue. And hadn't Electrix folded shortly after releasing the Repeater, the overdub issue should be fixable quite easily.
Still, comparing what I paid to the only real competitor (the EDP), it's great value for your money. I enjoy working with it. It inspires my creativity. And I've come to accept its shortcomings.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $599 used
Submitted 07/27/2003
at 12:09pm
by Mrdavidsam
Ease of Use
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8
The Repeater has a lot more controls than my previous looper, the Jamman, but it can do a lot more. My one frustration has been importing loops into my computer via the flash media card -- the Repeater puts a small amount of silence on both ends of each loop track, and while the manual says how to get rid of these gaps, the Repeater simply does NOT do what the manual says it will. Obviously, this isn't an issue for live use, where it's dreamy.
Sound Quality
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5
For recording, going out of the Repeater into the device is unacceptable -- too much noise for my tastes. FX inserts double the problem. The best thing to do is get the best sound possible going in and then take the loops off the card, but see the complications with that above. Again, live is just fine.
Reliability
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7
Very few problems, although you get different performance from different media cards, even if they're from the same manufacturer, which can affect playback. You can always dump the loop from the card into the Repeater's internal memory if it doesn't feel like playing off the card, however. You just have to remember to save any changes back to the card before you turn the Repeater off.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Company's been out of business since before I got it.
Overall Rating
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8
Despite its quirks, the Repeater can be a very useful tool. After a year, I'm continuously finding new ways to use it. Besides just looping, it's great for figuring out arrangements, whether you're doing electronic styles or classical composition.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 06/09/2003
at 10:02pm
by Tommy D
Ease of Use
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No Opinion
This is an addition to my earlier review of the Electrix Repeater.
Sound Quality
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3
Earlier I rated it a 1... maybe that was a little harsh, but the ticking sounds is bad. I want to add two more issues about the sound quality.
1 - Yes, it is very noisy when running with a guitar. You can use a line mixer to boost the level, but this will alter the way your guitars and amps interact. Also, it adds a little bit of digital harshness to your sound which is noticeable to me - makes overdriven sounds rougher in a bad way, less smooth.
2 - When the FX Insert is engaged, the dry sound becomes phasey and chorusey in an uncontrollable way. This seems to be because there is a time delay - the wet signal is delayed from the dry signal. This ain't too cool. It happens when you patch the FX send straight into the FX return, so it is in the Electrix unit and not my outboard FX. So, you can deal with the chorusing on your dry sound with the FX Insert engaged, or, you have to only use the FX Insert to add effects to loops that are already recording (then outputting a wet signal only through the FX loops ) and routing your dry signal through a different track on the Repeater. This is somewhat limiting.
Reliability
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8
It's still cooking.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Out of business.
Overall Rating
:
7
Maybe I seem overly critical, but hey, you gotta be when it comes to deciding where to spend your hard-earned bucks. Hopefully some manufacturers and inventors pay attention to these reviews and will test their products thoroughly before putting them into production, and will not let "minor details" go unresolved. Buyer Beware! Repeater is still cool, but it has some problems.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $647.00
Submitted 09/28/2002
at 10:27am
by Ed Schry
Email: E_SCHRY_A<at>MSN dot COM
Ease of Use
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8
Easy to get a good sound. The manual could be less 'humanized' and more to the point.
Sound Quality
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8
Reliability
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No Opinion
I haven't had it very long.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Same here.
Overall Rating
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4
I'm comparing this unit to a Boss RC-20 and a Zoom 1044 (no burner). I really like the fact that you can record a loop at one tempo and then precisely change the tempo of that loop. You can change the tempo on the boss unit but not precisely and you can not change the tempo on the Zoom recorder. What this allows is for you to change your mind about tempo. It's a luxury that is also a time saver in many applications. The boss unit has 51/2 minutes of loop memory but this seems to include overdubs as I have used the unit in that way. The repeater only comes with about 4 minutes 20 seconds of track memory guaranteeing that you'll have to buy compact flash cards. The 128 MB cards are 50 bucks give or take a few a pop and provide 241/2 minutes of track memory (not loop memory. If you want to use this unit for click tracking (which because of the adjustable metronome sound would most likely work well- I'M assuming now that these electrix people were not so stupid as to import that sound in the outputs - I haven't tested it yet, then you could click about 5 or 6 songs per 128 MB card or about 10 bucks a song. If you'd like to output those tracks in stereo half that. I perceive this as a negative. I paid less for the Zoom unit and it has a 15 gig hard drive which has room for over 100 hours track time. Now for all that unit does it is a steal relative to the repeater. To conclude I would say that the repeater is about an equal value to the boss rc-20 but the Zoom recorder blows both of them out of the water. If Zoom were to make a looper I bet you it would do alot more than these loopers and for less money.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $450
Submitted 09/18/2002
at 12:43pm
by Hotblack
Email: redc_hotblackd<at>yahoo dot com
Ease of Use
:
9
The manual is very well written. Although Electrix is no longer, parent company IVL still exists, and they are maintaining the message board for all Electrix products, as well as providing customer support. While that is not as good as having an active company to talk to, it's not bad. There is a nice community of people that have Repeaters that are readily available through the message board. Therefore, it's pretty easy to troubleshoot and get advice.
While the front panel of the Repeater is extremely easy to use, they never created a "dedicated" footpedal/board (ala Echoplex). While this is a blessing to some, it is a curse to others. Therefore, you'll have to go through a little programming time if you use a midi pedalboard. (The three button footswitch from Digitech allows you to record, stop, play, but won't allow you access to many of the Repeater's cooler functions.) Many users, myself included have opted for the Behringer FCB1010 for it's two expression pedals, and rather nice features. You'll find plenty of support if you use that board.
Sound Quality
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9
Unlike the Echoplex, the Repeater was stereo. As a keyboard player, this made it the winner over the Echoplex alone. (I'm not about to buy two Echoplexes!) Being able to store and transfer loops via CFC is DAMN COOL! This also enaples the Repeater to be used as a sampler of sorts.
I had the CFC "ticking" problem referred to in other posts. The problem lay in not having enough input volume. The "tick" is below the "noise floor", and if your input levels go to orange or red, you shouldn't hear any tick (this is from the Repeater forum on their site, so forgive me butchering the explanation). Once I made this modification, the noise was a non-issue. (Also check the line/phono switch in the back.)
I have the Repeater running into a compressor/noise gate before it goes out to speaker, so noise is a non-issue for me.
Reliability
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10
It's a TANK! You could use it as a car-stop, hammer nails with it, and throw it down ten flights of stairs, and it would probably still work. (Not that I'm advocating any of those acts.)
Customer Support
:
9
The only dealings I've had with customer support is communication through the message board... and while not serious, they have been very helpful.
Overall Rating
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10
If anything happens to my Repeater, I'll be very very VERY VERY upset. Seeing as the company has folded, getting one at a good price is becomming increasingly difficult. Much like the Jamman, it appears to be appreciating in value.
Like many other products, it involves a slight learning curve. However, once "personalized", it's FANTASTIC!
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $499
Submitted 08/18/2002
at 03:40pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
8
a bit deeper than might first appear. requires a bit of time.
Sound Quality
:
8
headphone output:NOISY.
L/R outs: NOT DEAD QUIET EITHER
digital out:appears to be fine.
tweaking the input/record levels can help the L/R noise quite a bit. the headphone output is noisier than hell, though. but,..it IS just a headphone out.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
like all electrix gear it is packed into a military-spec iron case. seems unbreakable. haven't owned it for that long, though.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
great website (until they folded). still seems pretty informative. never called them. hope i don't have to.
Overall Rating
:
10
i've owned TWO Lexicon Jamman's for years. i love them. i bought the repeater to COMPLIMENT them (not replace them). my first impression was: "what the???......this noisy piece of crap will NOT enhance my Jammans". then i started tweaking. the UNDO is great (the bad riff is not fatal like it is when looping on the Jamman). i layed down a riff. i looped it. i re-recorded it backwards. i added an external effect. i panned the 4 seperate parts all over the place. the result made my jaw drop. i played the result backward and then foward. very cool. i saved it to my memory card and then started over. i LOVE it. it will NOT replace my Lexicons. i prefer them for more "spontaneous" looping AND for the GIGANTICALLY long ECHO capabilites. i look at the Repeater as more of a looping tool-box. construct....DE-construct....layer...reverse..add effects....pan the 4 seperate tracks.......save to data card or load directly to my little sampler. it is HUGE addition to my humble home studio. if you are looking for a delay unit...maybe the Line 6 DL4 will suit you better. if you want the purest real-time looping available,..look for a Jamman OR BETTER YET an Echoplex Digital. if you want a looper (and it CAN be used "realtime") that can INSTANTLY produce some phenomenal results on ANY input material (guitar/voice/synth,etc) than look at the Repeater. the data card storage is SWEET. the user interface (once you are familiar with it) is very easy to operate. you can think of it as a "supplemental" 4-tracks to whatever recorder you use. i find it indespensible. find one now before they go the way of the Jamman and are impossible to locate (and afford).
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $500
Submitted 08/08/2002
at 10:30am
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
10
Others have covered this sufficiently. The Repeater's features are great, once you learn how to do everything.
Sound Quality
:
1
This is my beef. I have an ever-present "ticking" sound that comes out of the Repeater's right channel whenever I play back off of a CFC. Electrix has acknowledged this as a design flaw, but it seems that it does not bother others as much it bothers me, so I wonder if my unit is particularly screwy. It has made it unusable as a stereo unit for me, at least if sound quality is a big deal (such as in recording). It's super annoying. It does not happen when playing off of internal memory, only off of the CFC. Also, it is noisy in front of a guitar amp, but I haven't tried building the attentuator yet. So, mostly because of the ticking sound, I hereby slam the Repeater. The sample rate and record quality is very good.
Reliability
:
9
I depend on it completely for fun and jollies. I can't afford another one, or else I would have one. Now, if you had two Repeaters for stereo, that would work and you would have no ticking sound to worry about and four tracks of stereo, but don't tell anyone, because they're becoming scarce fast. Oh yea, I crushed the front panel knobs in a rack case once and they came out just fine.
Customer Support
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1
They were very nice while they were still around, until I asked them to fix my Repeater or replace because the ticking sound was unnacceptable to me. Then, they stopped replying to me. Now, they are out of business.
Overall Rating
:
7
It's super great, it sucks, I love it, I hate it. I wish there was no ticking sound, then I could just rave about it, but honestly, it really really bothers me.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $500.00
Submitted 08/07/2002
at 09:34pm
by Jon Pousette-Dart
Ease of Use
:
7
Very easy to run
Sound Quality
:
5
Too much noise for my taste, so i returned unit, never to have it re-appear. Don't send the unit in for repairs. 6 months later, Still no refund on insured mail to Canada.
Reliability
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4
didn't last me very long
Customer Support
:
5
Friendly but lost a smart card sent to them as well as unit
Overall Rating
:
6
Fun while I had it, which was 2 months. Will I buy another one if I ever get refunded. Don't think so.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $439
Submitted 08/06/2002
at 11:47am
by Bill Marx
Email: allmarx at earthlink<dot>net
Ease of Use
:
9
I'm a complete propellerhead, so my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, but really, the basic operation of this unit is as simple as any cassette 4-track - they designed it to look that way for a reason and it pays off. There's depth and you can wade in to full midi implementation, but I've opted not to expand my already oversized pedalboard with a dedicated controller. I just attached a simple momentary footswitch (radioshack $5) to activate/deactivate record - and for the rest I actually prefer the front panel interface. As a solo looper, this doesn't really impact my live performances - in fact, it lends a nice Mr. Science quality to it all. I have used contollers with the unit too, for the aforementioned propellerhead reasons (had to check it out). Tech 21's midi mouse is a minimal real estate choice that works well...
Sound Quality
:
10
My rig is only slightly less complex than Mr. Torn's - did everyone notice that David Torn has an entry here? - skip this, read that and buy if so inclined - I use a dozen different guitars, including midi-equipped - half-a-dozen stompboxes on the front end, three rackmout preamps/effects units, mikes, CD's of samples (mostly vocies)- anyway, point is that I do get a little digital noise from the unit itself during headphone monitoring - that's with guitar direct to front-panel repeater input, with no other connections, to headphone out. That is my only ding on the unit. Note that this noise does not appear on the .wav files saved to CFC, nor does it impact the sound through the back panel outputs. I think it's actually a problem with the headphone out. Sound is otherwise great once you get the levels set. A master output control would have been a nice feature, as others have noted.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
So far, so good. Seems solid, but only time will tell.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Well, sadly, Mr. Torn seems to have been slightly off about this company's dedication to their product - in that they are now defunct - at least as a separate entitiy. Their website says they will continue to support warranty and I'm not sure what their affiliation with TC Electronics will mean. But it appears the product has been discontinued...?
Overall Rating
:
10
Right now, there just is not a more versatile unit for the performing looper - particularly for guitarists. The list of positives is long:
Stereo operation with panning
Multitrack looping (with bouncing)
.Wav file format - you just started your next CD.
Great sync functions
Great morphing (time / pitch stretching)
Long loop times with an appropriate CFC
By the way, Mr. Torn says that this unit is not based on the long echo model like so many others - true - but I want to emphasize that it can function exactly like such a unit - with fine control over the degree of fade. I often use it this way and it kills the digital echoplex, jamman and
The list of negatives has already been laid out by others. To my mind the two biggest are lack of internal ram (especially when memory is soooooo cheap) and the oft mentioned lack of master output - Both of these can be overcome (buy a $50 128MB CFC from Amazon and bypass the internal ram - use a stereo volume pedal between the outs on the unit and your amp / PA). A great box. The last (for now) missing piece from my rig. Knee-cymbals and bass drum on the back no longer necessary. You are a one-person band.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $500
Submitted 04/30/2002
at 10:07am
by Tommy D
Ease of Use
:
8
For the features, the Repeater seems pretty easy to use. There are some features that I haven't been able to figure out how to access via MIDI, such as changing the tempo sync mode, but I haven't inquired with Electrix about these issues yet. I recommend using a Behringer FCB 1010 programmable MIDI foot controller to control the Repeater. It has ten banks of ten buttons that are completlely programmable for control and program changes, as well as two expression pedals that are programmaed independently for each patch selection. I am primarily a guitarist, and I have the MIDI floorboard setup to control all Repeater features in a configuration that operates it basically like a digital four-track. I plan to buy a Digitech FS-300 footswitch to pop on my pedalboard in order to control the basic record, play, and undo functions, freeing up some more space on the MIDI controller and having the main functions always "right there". The FS-300 plugs into a separate "footswitch" jack in Repeater, and allows control of the three basic functions without MIDI. It takes some getting used to to be able to consistently punch out loops in "user sync" mode (freestyle, no syncing of loop beginning and end to an external clock source), but I've been improving somewhat by practicing trying to loop a drum machine, and there's really no way this could be made easier that I can think of, other than practice that is.
Sound Quality
:
8
It can be pretty noisy in front of a guitar amp, but there are specs in the manual for building an attenuation circuit to improve performance in this application. The sound quality is very clear for loop reproduction. It does a little something undesirable to your dynamics and such when playing guitar, but it seems pretty good for a digital device. Anything you run your guitar signal through will alter the sound and feel to an extent, but the features and fun of the Repeater are worth a little sacrifice. If you don't like it, build or buy a bypass box, but it might make getting consistent levels more of a headache. I don't know why a lot of geniuses digitales never build true bypasses in this kind of stuff. Guitar players love that kind of stuff. I know the Line 6 Delay Mod has one.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
It seems pretty solid, but haven't tested it much other than crushing the front panel knobs pretty callously with a road case, and it help up fine. Keep it in a rack, love your children.
Customer Support
:
10
Jason is great, always gets back to you promptly with the info. Makes you feel good about owning their product.
Overall Rating
:
10
I think it's great, I love dumping song ideas and such to the CFC quickly and easily, then saving them all on my computer with the $20 SanDisk USB CFC reader, and then erasing the card and filling it up again! Yea! I think I'll keep it for a long time and depend upon it. I had been waiting for a Repeater for a long time, but I didn't know what I was waiting for. The Boomerang is still cool and has it's own mojo and space on my pedalboard, but the Repeater is definitely tough stuff.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $499
Submitted 04/29/2002
at 11:30am
by me@chris-harper.com
Ease of Use
:
6
this thing is easy as sin to use. the manual is direct and to the point. i had it running in my midi setup in an hour. it also has a tap tempo button which is probably the best thing i've ever seen on a rack mounted sampler. you can avoid using a sequencer this way. i have to count off for the limited and hard to interpret digital screen though. it is easier to read than lcd in a club but hard to understand what the thing is trying to tell you cause of the limited characters. after a while you get used to it and know what its trying to tell you. for the pricerange though, you can only bitch a little. changing loops is difficult since this thing reads everything completely of a compact flash card. it has no internal ram that i can tell of to store loops so you actually have to wait a full second before the next loop and its four tracks are loaded. deal killer for me though. this thing isn't really a sampler as much as a very powerfull boomerang looper that can hold four tracks per loop which you can mute on and off or apply things like pitch shifts on each track. i need something that can have loops a phrases that i can fire off randomly. also, since it reads off of a compact flash card, i ran into a serious glich. i like to retrigger a loops beginning by hitting the play button over and over again to build something up but every now and then it would freeze up and say "Card slow!". can't have that happen live!
Sound Quality
:
10
sound quality was great! no degragation in sound. its has the best pitch shifting and time streching capabilities i've heard in a long time. only thing that might beat it is a roland variphrase sampler. this thing can hold some seriously long loops too! i could see some trance people using this box well. plus, you can virtually paste a one measure beat to repeat over and over again while two or four bar melody plays on top. this a pretty nifty!
Reliability
:
6
thing is built like a tank. so i wouldn't worry about it breaking easily. you should have it in a rack case though. that's just common sense. i would gig with it even without one if i had too (that day should never come though). i did find a couple serious bugs though. like the "slock card" error when i was retrigger the loop. guess it has to read of the card the whole time. this thing really needs some sort of internal ram!
Customer Support
:
10
this company has the best customer support ever. especially this one guy named jason. friggin awesome! even if you go to their site (www.electrix.pro) you'll see him and others like him on the message boards answering scads of questions all day long trying to make the customer happy. plus they have all their manuals in pdf for which you can download (roland could learn from this). i think this will actually decide this company's success.
Overall Rating
:
7
i bought it but had to take it back. it wasn't for me :( good product though and a decent price. i could see a trance or techno dj using this but i'm more of a battler break-beat dj and i need to have samples looping with a beat on my record and then randomly kick off phrases on the side. a guitarist could use this live with a midi foot board really easily. also, with how easy you can record mulitple tracks, overdub on those tracks, merge those tracks and then adjust the bpm and pitch of all those tracks-this thing could be a great song writing aide or tool for a guitarist or somehting. but i need something thats a mix of this and a conventional sampler. this is why i'm going with the roland variphrase sampler. but i could really see this product becoming outstanding in its next iteration! i would buy one again, but not as a sampler but more of a writing aide/scratch pad for thinking of multiple guitar parts or something. right now have no need though.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $700
Submitted 09/29/2001
at 07:48am
by Jack
Email: wrightdude<at>aol dot com
Ease of Use
:
9
I don?t own the Repeater, a friend let me borrow his for two weeks to evaluate. Based on my evaluation I plan to buy one as soon as I have the necessary liquidity. I am a guitar player and I have been looping live with a Line 6 Delay Modeler. I'm looking for a device that will allow longer loops... but enough about me... what about the Repeater?
Ease of use, generally I found the looper very easy and intuitive, 10 minutes with the manual to understand the basic architecture and your on your way.
Sound Quality
:
9
As others have stated "once levels are set correctly" the sound quality is excelent.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
I'll abstain from a rating here as I am not familiar with Electrix products. A can say though that all apearances are that this is a very roadworthy device. I really like the job they have done with the mecjanical packaging!
Customer Support
:
10
My email inquiries were answered within a day or two and were very helpfull,
Overall Rating
:
9
Overall I am very impressed with the repeater, like everyone else of course I have my issues:
The one glaring oversight:
The Repeater needs an overall output gain control. The Repeaters output is fixed at Line level with a dynamic range of 94dB which is more than adequate at line level.. However with the noise floor fixed at -94dB down from line level, it is unuseable at instrument level without an additional preamp or volume pedal. A master gain control would fix this problem and facilitate fade ins and outs much easier as opposed to fading four knobs (or four MIDI controllers, one for each track).
One nit:
When punching out to establish your first loop, the Repeater begins repeating the loop but drops out of record. You must wait for the loop to return in order to start your next layer from the beginning of the loop. I would prefer to end the first loop and remain in record to seamlessly begin the next layer (remember I?m used to the Line 6). Of course once the first loop is established, you may initiate record at any time and wrap your overdubs till your memory runs dry!
On the bright side:
MIDI control is excellent with nearly every front panel control (and more!) available via MIDI (would be nice to be able to re-map the MIDI controllers... but hey...)
Three button footswitch to control stop, start, record and undo (would be nice to be able to re-map these too... BUT HEY...)
WAV file transfer in and out via removeable flash is HUGE!
Undo! takes some of the pressure off when your already 10 layers deep!
Four tracks in stereo pairs or independantly panned to your stereo placement!
Eight minute looping!
I'm there!
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $599.00
Submitted 09/19/2001
at 10:50pm
by Alan Ayoub
Ease of Use
:
9
I (like many other users) have found MIDI synchronization with The Repeater to be problematic. I am confident that these issues are being adressed by the folks at Electrix. I hoped that the Repeater would replace my Jamman or EDP, but as of yet it does not, although it seems that it would be possible . Patience!
***A big plus is that the sharing of .wav files with my G3 is a breeze with a $39.00 card reader.
Sound Quality
:
9
Once I set the levels correctly the sound quality was very good. I have used it with my Godin Multiac nylon string running into a tc electronic dual parametric eq, Distressor,tc 2290,tc G-Force, Pearce B2-p(600 watt Bass amp)and 2 or 4 EV coaxial monitors.
Reliability
:
10
This box seems to be built like a tank! I have had no problems.
Customer Support
:
10
Jason, Damon, and all of the other people at Eletcrix were very cool to deal with. I have had the experience with large (and very well-funded)companies using the tact of blaming their bugs on something that I must have been doing wrong. I know that they are in the process of cleaning up the bugs and adding features, it is just a matter of time and money. The people at Electrix must love what they do as it seems that they put it all on the line to provide us with this really happening piece of gear. The big players in the MI industry have not really embraced the loop idea, and they have far-greater resources to pull it off! My Rating is 10+ for this category
Overall Rating
:
10
My only problem is that I wanted a box like this 5 years ago. I own 2 Repeaters, and once it has been out for a while I will get a couple more(I think that a totally foot-operated random-access loop recorder would very useful and fun!)
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 09/19/2001
at 01:40pm
by Mark Sottilaro
Ease of Use
:
6
I'd give it a 10 for ease of use via it's front panel. Very well designed and easy to use. Sweet. Oh the other hand, as a guitarist, if I need to step on more than one pedal to access a function, it's not really available. Electrix recommended using the Rolls Midiwizard as a midi controller, which I purchased before I actually got the unit, and I find it to be way lacking in what it takes to control the Repeater with your feet. So for using with your feet, I'd give it a 3. I'd rather give up the ability to directly access any loop number (over a thousand possible!) to be able to step once and get it to cue up the next loop and automatically go into it recording. This lack is a BIG deal, in my opinion. I also wish it allowed you to alter the default settings. Even if you had to load them in from the CFC every time you used it, it would be fine. The good deal is because it's a software driven design, features can be added or altered in future revisions, although at this time Electrix is being tight lipped about what to expect in the near future. Right now, a bug that make it impossible to easily synch a loops to midi (I posted a work around on the Electrix Repeater Forum) is keeping me from using it as I intended, but hopefully that will be cleared up soon.
Sound Quality
:
10
This thing sounds GREAT. After looping with a Lexicon JamMan for the last 10 years, it's like someone came into the room and turned on a 800 watt halogen light! I can see now! Time stretch and pitch change also work well, with expected, but interesting artifacts when taken to the extreme. The effects loop seems to be line level only, so if you've got instrument level stomp boxes or in my case a Lexicon Vortex, it won't really work. I couldn't set the input low enough on the Vortex to get a good level, but putting it in front of the Repeater worked well enough for me. Remember: This baby is line level all the way. I would NOT recommend pluging the output directly into your Marshall stack set on "11" (though they go up to 20...which is 9 louder, innit?) The place for this baby is in your mixer's or amp's effect loop. The problem with this now is that there's no way to kill the input to the output, but Electrix as promised to change this in the first software revision which is coming "soon."
Reliability
:
No Opinion
I've yet to use it at a gig, but it seems very solid, as do all the Electrix products (I own a Warp Factory and a MO-FX)
Customer Support
:
7
Well, so far Electrix has been very attentive, but no real results yet for bugs that were found. I wish they were a little more forth coming about when and what to expect in the eagerly awaited bug fix update, and what to expect in future software revisions. To me, no news is confusing news. I think it's too early in the game to really say at this point, but I was another customer that had purchased a bad CFC card and had them take it back and send me a working one. That's pretty good. It happend pretty quickly.
Overall Rating
:
8
Although a bug is keeping me from "easily" using it as I intended, I've figured out workarounds that, until the bug is fixed, will do. This baby is really opening up new territory, and it's no doubt a pretty amazing box. Especially for the price. If you're expecting a stereo EDP or JamMan, don't get it... well, maybe get it. If you don't care about MIDI synch, this thing is amazing. Being able to take loops off the CFC and into the computer software of your choice opens up a world of music production that I've only begun to scratch the surface of. I'm giving it an 8 rating for now, but if and when they fix the MIDI/Loop Point Assist bug and give you the ability to cue up a new loop and go into it recording will bring this rating up to a ten.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 09/18/2001
at 03:36pm
by david torn / splattercell
Email: texture444 at aol<dot>com
Ease of Use
:
10
forewarning:
i was kinda bugged by the immensely negative review, herein, by 'anonymous'.
'anonymous' may have been correct for criticizing repeater on some of its (current, & probably addressable) failings;
but, ignoring the immense positives that repeater brings to the small, competitive looping-fray got to me for a number of reasons:
1) i love the repeater, both for what it does *and*
2) for what it represents, ie: another *choice* in the realm of 'live'-loopers -a choice that brings new possibilities/interface to the arena-, and
3) i loop nearly every day; i'm not a hobbyist (though i harbor no odd feelings to those who are!), and i found an immediate place for the repeater in my *daily* work.
so:
i use the repeater as an interactive loop-recording/writing/playback device, along w/an EDP, a modified pcm42, various analog delays, computer, drumachines, tablamachine, etc.....
i have thus far used the repeater -effectively, i think- both at live performances, and
rather intensively on recent recording sessions:
w/david bowie, w/tim berne, w/donna lewis, on my own 'splattercell'-project and
on very highly-pressurised film-sessions such as 'skins', 'the bourne identity', 'heist', 'simone', 'a knight's tale', etc etc.
is the repeater easy to use?
well, i've only cracked the manual to absorb the repeater's terminology/interface, and to program a peavey pc1600 midi ctrl to take advantage of repeater's ctrl capabilities.
so:
easy to use..... and it does things that no other device does.
Sound Quality
:
10
all kindsa signal feeds my repeater, incl. teuffel & klein gtrs, microcassette machines, stage and/or computer outputs:
i think the thing sounds great, and --- unlike other loopers --- is multi-track and stereo, to boot.
i've had no extraneous (unusable) noise.
the pitch-shifting obviously sounds better w/monophonic signals, but i've used it effectively otherwise, as well; what's wrong w/a coupla surprising artifacts, once in a while, anyway?
and:
i *love* the sonic potential of the time-stretching.
Reliability
:
10
no breakdowns, yet, with many thousands of miles on it, already.
be aware, though, of electrix' caveats re: cfc's of certain manufacture.....
Customer Support
:
10
ha!
electrix is listening, and:
unlike the manufacturers of most other looping devices, electrix appear *completely* commited to the future of looping via their repeater.
i've thrown *many* ideas in their direction (as have quite a few others), and trust that some of these will be incorporated into future sw revisions, as some have already been incorporated.
i think that repeater owners can expect a wealth of sw updates, bug-fixes & new feature implementation.
and:
when i bought a 'lousy' cfc from a local company, electrix replaced it.
Overall Rating
:
10
here's the thing (there's always a thing):
repeater is not really based on the old 'long delay'-paradigm for loopers; neither has electrix claimed it to be the uberlooper:
it's a different beast, w/capabilites other than loopers that are already available ---
it was not meant to replace your jammen, boomerangs, nor EDP's, etc, but to offer something *else*,
namely:
a multi-track stereo loop-*recorder* w/realtime editing,
w/storage & recall,
& selectively independent pitch & time-shifting & track slipping,
an assignable fx-loop, and
a 'live mixer' interface, w/all controls easily midi-able.
on thisall, electrix has delivered, and more power to 'em.
if yer interested in live-looping -from any perspective- you oughta check this thing out;
indeed, my hunch tells me that a product like this may not appear again for a *long* time, w/this level of support.....
w/more reviews like those of 'anonymous', you'd better pick up a repeater now, before they show up on ebay for $2k.....
(pardon my version of melodrama, there, pls.....)
btw, fyi:
i am not an electrix employee, nor do i have a different version of sw than anyone else.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $589
Submitted 09/18/2001
at 11:13am
by Tim B. in Loopville
Ease of Use
:
10
A short learning curve (this isn't exactly a one-button guitar pedal), but after 1/2hr with the manual I was up and making some seriously cool 4-track loops. I've been using an EDP and homemade tape loopers for years, and although these earlier products have their own interesting 'kwirks', the Repeater answers my cries for a far more professional looping tool. The biggest advantage is being able to FINALLY store my freakin loops for a performance! Electrix obviously listened carefully to all the looping maniacs, like myself, when designing this box, and then added their own batch of inspiring features, such as the time stretch, pitch shifting, and slip (who knew that one would be so much fun?).
Sound Quality
:
9
I noticed a distinct sound mixed in with the noise-floor, but after optimizing my levels (IMHO: an important step when adding any new piece of gear) I have a clean signal. I'm now running Repeater directly into my soundcard, using the digital out. I'm also planning to use it live by adding all of my effects in Repeater's fx send loop, and then run Repeater into a portable mixer.
Overall, the sound quality is a vast improvement on the loopers I've been working with until now, plus, with stereo loops I retain a full, rich sound (ala Robert Fripp live).
Reliability
:
10
I already had experience gigging with the Electrix Mo-FX, so expected the same rugged, reliable chassis on the Repeater. As another reviewer mentioned, it's a far cry better than those flimsy knobs on the EDP. If/when I buy a backup, it will be to have 8 tracks all sync'd up! Crazy stuff.
Customer Support
:
10
I've been very impressed with the open communication Electrix has with their customers. All of my pre-purchase questions were answered by one of the designers themselves. Kind of cool to have a discussion with the people who dreamed this box up.
Overall Rating
:
10
I've been experimenting with layered looping for around 8 years, inspired by artists like Robert Fripp and Trey Gunn, but I bring my own flavour to the sound, using a wide range of tools like homemade distortion pedals, and variable-speed tape loops. After only a week with the Repeater it has already become the primary tool in my rig. Not only does it do all of the basic looping stuff I require, but brings with it some extremely inspiring sound mangling tools, allowing me to really explore and reshape a loop, then save it to the Compact Flash card (by the way...buy a larger Compact Flash card as soon as you can...the 16MB one that shipped with Repeater is just an evil tease!).
With one (relatively affordable) purchase, I have replaced at least five pieces of gear mixed into my rig, which I can happily sell off on eBay to make some money back.
Electrix has given me a gimpse into my future...now I want a second Repeater! Oh god...when will it stop ;-)
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $599
Submitted 09/17/2001
at 03:53pm
by mccokinya
Ease of Use
:
10
Extremely easy to use. I was onto it and making loops in seconds flat. I love the multi track looping concept. It's light years beyond mono devices like the Echoplex. I was able to use the built in mixer, and FX loop to instantly remix my loops with my MIDI synched FilterFActory. (which worked flawlessly). I don't know about Mr. Negative bellow. My guess is he is the competition (I'm always suspicious of anonymous posts.).
Sound Quality
:
8
Fairly quiet. I have noticed a few irritations in the noise floor that seem to be related to the display scanning but nothing to bad. The digital out is clean and I have noticed on the electrix web site forum that there are issues running line level directly into an amp can be bad. The quality of the overall audio is amazing! It's very clear and bright. It doesn't seem to flatten the sound like other loopers I've tried.
Reliability
:
10
Repeater is built like a tank. Much like my FilterFactory it's all metal with solid components and good solid feeling buttons.
Mr. negative must love his flimsy Echoplex knobs. Talk about being unroadworthy!
Customer Support
:
10
Unprecedented. There technical support has been amazing. I can actually talk to someone. Have you ever tried to get support from Gibson over the EDP? Electrix has a forum on there web site where they let people openly wine and complain about their products. They have even promised an OS upgrade from a few problems that came up in the forum. I don't know...I'm impressed. They seem like real people who really care about the looping community. They even hang out in the loopers-delight (www.loopers-delight.com) discusion group and answer question there.
Overall Rating
:
9
I play a mix of electronic with guitar bass etc. I run Cubs, Repeater, FilterFactory, an MC-307, pc-1600 numerous plugins virtual synths and drum machines. Repeater integrates amazingly into my system. I love the fact that I can record loops, resample effects into them and then drag and drop my loops onto my computer for integration into Cubs stuff. The most important thing I can say so far is that this box has actually made me a better player. It has put me in better touch with timing and how I play. It's an amazing writing tool.
The only thing I didn't like was the bug with MIDI sync LPA which Electrix has promised to fix in an OS upgrade anyway.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: US $600
Submitted 09/14/2001
at 05:41pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
1
No metronome count-in available. Unlike the Echoplex Digital Pro (a unit with its own issues), the Repeater is not ?bar smart? with respect to quantizing a recording. Astounding!
Pressing Rec to end a recording immediately restarts the pattern on a connected external drum machine instead of allowing the pattern to play to the end of the bar. This makes it impossible to smoothly record loops in a live fashion with a drum machine.
There is only 1 level of undo. Once you?ve begun to record a 2nd overdub, there is no way to undo any earlier overdubs (except redoing the whole loop from scratch).
Footswitch control (Digitech FS304, in this case, identical to FS300, per Digitech) does not exactly mimic button presses. For example, you cannot stutter trigger with the ?play? foot button as you can with the actual play button on the front panel.
The metronome sound on/off is done via a ?long? front panel button push. It is not doable from the footswitch, or (apparently) via MIDI.
Standard metronome options such as ?sound during play?, ?sound during record?, ?sound always?, ?sound never? are completely unavailable.
The circular blinking tap tempo button is visually annoying ? much more so than a simple blinking LED would be. There is no way to defeat the blinking.
Also, several bar-like LED segments in the ?division? area of the display chase their tails around and around in a very visually distracting way to no apparent purpose. This is not defeatable.
The user?s setting for the metronome volume is not retained across power cycles ? it comes back on full blast each time.
The erase loop function is accessed as a ?long? push on the Undo button. Except on the first pass of a brand new loop recording, the erase loop function is not available from the footswitch.
There is no power switch (just a ?sleep mode?).
The unit always exits trigger recording mode after one pass, requiring the user to reestablish this mode for each subsequent retake. IOW: you set up trigger record, you record a loop ? badly, you erase the loop, then you must set up trigger record again ? with manual button pushes. You can?t enable/disable trigger record from the footswitch, and you can?t set the Repeater to always use trigger recording for a ?fresh? pattern.
Stopping the Repeater after recording always sends a MIDI STOP command to a connected drum machine. There are definitely times when you don?t want this behavior, but repeater gives you no choice.
To summarize: There is no way to let a drum machine free run while recording loops quantized to bar boundaries. There is also no way to use the Repeater as the timing master while providing yourself with a count-in to establish the rhythm before loop recording initiates. Catch 22, happy tap dancing sucka!
What can I say? I'm VERY disappointed with the usability.
I find the user experience of the Repeater distinctly inferior to the Echoplex Digital Pro ? the unit I was counting on the Repeater to replace!
YMMV
Sound Quality
:
3
The pitch shifting (tested on guitar chords), sounded terrible. Even moving one semitone sounded bad, and it just gets worse the farther you shift.
Time stretching to an external MIDI clock sounded good.
The unit occassionally crackled.
Reliability
:
3
IMO, because of the way it doesn't work, it is unsuitable for a gig.
The unit relies on a special external power supply, connected to the unit by a custom connector with tiny pins. This rigging is non-standard and fragile.
The case seems solid.
Customer Support
:
3
I feel unsupported as a customer because I don't feel that Electrix did a good job of alpha and beta -ing this unit with real users before releasing it to the public, nor did they take adequate notice of existing art as a baseline upon which to improve.
Overall Rating
:
3
Good points, such as they are:
Time stretching to an external MIDI clock sounds good
Having 4 mono racks (or 2 stereo tracks) beats having only 1
A loop trim function is offered
It will remember loops
I was really looking forward to this unit, but the Repeater completely fails to live up to its promise, IMO. Spending several hours with it produced intense dissatisfaction rather than the (expected) seamless looping experience I was hoping to buy. Perhaps Electrix will release a software update to address the problems mentioned. Perhaps not. Caveat emptor.
Product: Electrix Repeater
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 08/15/2001
at 11:27am
by Paul Walters
Email: paul<at>waterloony dot com
Ease of Use
:
10
I had the opportunity to play with the Repeater, at the invitation of Lisa Tyner of Electrix, last April. I have to say that although I had already read the beta manual for it, I still found it to be incredibly intuitive to move around and manipulate. I was able to plug my Chapman Stick directly into the stereo inputs (albeit without any preamplification). It was capable of doing everything that the manual promised (even though it was still over 5 months before the release date).
I assure you all that you will NOT be disappointed in this device!!!
Sound Quality
:
10
On the beta unit, the sound quality was spot-on, even though I was pluging my Stick directly into the inputs.
Reliability
:
10
Like all Electrix gear, this thing is a tank. Solid cast chassis and face plate, and very solid knobs. I don't foresee any mechanical problems coming up with the Repeater.
Customer Support
:
10
Dealing with the Electrix/IVL US Sales Director has been fun. IVL has long had a great reputation for customer service/support.
Overall Rating
:
10
I truly believe that the Electrix Repeater will be the end-all/be-all of Looping equipment. With the ability to archive your loops onto a Flash RAM card and then blow it into your computer for file manipulation/mastering, I feel this device will totally change to course of live music performance (not to mention the DJ market).
Patiently awaiting my Repeater,
Paul Walters
http://paulwalters.go.to
http://mp3.com/Paul Walters
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