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Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park

Summary
Price New Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park @ Musician's Friend
Manufacturer URL http://www.line6.com/
Ease of Use 8.3 (119 responses)
Sound Quality 7.3 (120 responses)
Reliability 7.2 (86 responses)
Customer Support 5.1 (26 responses)
Overall Rating 7.2 (113 responses)
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Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: USD 109.00
Submitted 09/20/2008 at 10:21am by Steve

Ease of Use : 10
Very simple to use via knobs and switches.

Sound Quality : 10
Within an hour, I was replicating Jimmi Page's Dazed and Confused echo runs. I instantly fell in love with this device. I think, the best on the market.

Reliability : 1
Within 3 hours of play time, the Echo Park died. The tempo light still blinks, but no sound comes out. On the outside, the Echo Park is well made. However, Line 6 skimped on the inside electronics big time.

This was a brand new product and it lasted for 1/2 a day... This made me very sad because I loved the effects and flexibility of the unit.

This was my first and last Line 6 purchase: I will never buy another Line 6 product. Guitar Center was kewl & took the product back the next day. I got an echo box from a different manufacturer for a bit more money.


Customer Support : No Opinion
Didn't even bother. If a company can't make a product that last more then 3 hours, what's the point in contacting Customer Support? Seeing how many others have had a similar experience, I saw myself with a series of warranty repairs and no echo box. I took it back to the store with extreme prejudice.

Overall Rating : 1
Again, if a company can't make a product that last more then 3 hours it gets a dismal zero ratting. Too bad, if they spent the extra $5 on better components and made better electronics, I would have went Line 6 all the way. Instead Boss, MXR, & etc... get my business.



Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 09/16/2008 at 10:12pm by Alejandro
Email: thefiredancer at hotmail<dot>com

Ease of Use : 10
Really easy to use, simple, intuitive, the manual is ok, this is a new revision model (no more amber light) ( revision code flash red twice).

Sound Quality : 9
%100 noise free, no hum, with a "noname" power supply, %100 free noise in daisy chain, 24 bits, really good sound in 3 modes, digital, analog, tape. I love swells, and in stereo is amazing. I've two Boss DD5, this is more versatile, and sounds better.

Reliability : 10
It's a brick, build like a tank, all is ok, very sturdy unit. SOLID.

Customer Support : No Opinion
I dont know. No opinion

Overall Rating : 10
I play ambiental, Folk, Rock, etc, the unit us very versatile, buy one, you will love it!!!



Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: USD 99.99
Submitted 09/05/2008 at 03:03pm by Nik

Ease of Use : 9
The Line 6 Echo Park pedal should be pretty easy to use, for anyone who's ever owned a compact delay before.

The controls are very clearly laid out, and only differ from most echo stompboxes in terms of the amount of options they present.

There are 2 toggle switches: one to turn trails on or off (meaning the echo continues after you stomp the pedal off) and another to select whether you'd like to model a tape echo, a digital delay, or a classic analog unit.

Five knobs control the mix (how much echo you want vs. how much dry signal), repeats (how long you want your echoes to go on for), modulation (a chorus-like effect can be blended in), time (the rate of speed at which the echoes occur after a note is played), and finally the delay mode (such as slap-back, dotted eighth notes, reverse, or ping-pong).

Also, this pedal features what I consider to be an absolute godsend--tap tempo. My favorite thing about the tap tempo on this pedal is that you can set it while the pedal is off, which is a must-have feature for anyone who plays with a drummer who has anything other than metronomic precision.

As someone else pointed out in a prior review, the LED light is orange when the pedal is off; otherwise, it flashes green with the tempo/time when it's engaged.

Sound Quality : 9
I have played this pedal through a Vox AC-30TB, a Roland JC-120, a Tech 21 Trademark 60, and a Vox AD100VT.

The guitars I've plugged into it have included a Fender Telecaster (American Standard, a Fender Jaguar (CIJ), a Fender Strat (MIM 70's RI), an Epiphone Strat clone, an ESP LTD Hybrid 300, and an Epiphone LP Standard.

The other pedals I've surrounded the Echo Park with were a Boss TU-2, a Boss OS-2, an Ibanez TS-9, a Boss DS-1, an EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai, an EHX Small Clone, a Boss RV-5, a Marshall VibraTrem, and an MXR MicroAmp.

This pedal has sounded great with every combination of gear possible. I've powered it from a brick-style power supply, which I found to be slightly less noisy than when I had it in the daisy-chain running off the Boss tuner.

The only real noise issues I have ever had seemed to happen when the pedal was in the daisy-chain and turned off. As soon as the pedal was stomped "on" or plugged into my brick power supply, the noise issues vanished. The pedal has gotten along great with all of my other pedals.

Reliability : 8
The only reason I'm docking this a point is because the tap tempo switch, which involves stomping the pedal down "halfway," started to get a little less accurate after a year and a half of playing. Then again, I might use this feature more frequently than most players.

In any case, pulling the module out of the pedal and tinkering with the guts of both parts seems to have alleviated the issue. I guess the good thing is that if the problem turns out to be with the pedal and not the actual effects module, it's easy enough to replace the pedal's body for another 50 or 60 bucks.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Never had to deal with Line 6.

Overall Rating : 9
I have to say that I think this is the best delay pedal I've ever owned. The sounds blow the Boss DD series out of the water (although a Hold setting might have been a cool addition), and it even competes with the mighty EHX SMM/H. I actually prefer the Echo Park to its bigger brother, the Line 6 DL4, for a few reasons:

-On the DL4, switching back and forth from a "rhythmic delay" setting is nearly impossible, and if you adjust the tap tempo while you're in the rhythmic delay setting, you won't be for long.

-There are a lot of great models on the DL4, but I really only ever used the Analog, Tape, and Digital ones... all of which are present in the Echo Park.

-The controls are much easier to use on the Echo Park. I can crank a few knobs between each song and everything sounds perfect by the time the band kicks in. With features this easy to use and access, who needs presets?

My current plan is to score another one or two of these pedals on eBay and add them to my board to avoid having to switch certain settings between songs. I'd like to have one set for digital, one for analog, and another for tape. Short of that, the only function that might improve this pedal at all would have been the inclusion of a basic looper.


Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: GBP 110
Submitted 08/16/2008 at 12:45pm by Jody

Ease of Use : 8
Play with this pedal for a while and it's fairly obvious how each section works.

The pedal's LED flashes to the time of the delay - orange when the effects are bypassed, and green when in use. This allows you to tap in the tempo before actually engaging the pedal. One minor drawback of this for me was that on stage, under some lighting conditions, the different colours of the LED were indistinguishable, and it was impossible to tell by looking at the pedal whether it was engaged or not. Of course you should be able to tell by listening!

Adjusting the 'Rate' when the pedal is engaged can give rise to all kinds of sonic mayhem - perfect for feedback fests at the end of a big song - if you are that way inclined.

Sound Quality : 9
The sound quality is superb, or at least was for my needs. Most of the effects are usable. I love the tape echo effects, especially the reverse echo. The effect I used most was the 'Normal' setting, on 'Tape'.

I have never tried to emulate the sounds of any particular artists, however, I did use the slapback echo a few times to get a 'country' sound, which was quite effective.

Reliability : 1
I have had this pedal for just 2 years, and it is now dead. The pedal looks like it works (LED flashes, tempo can be tapped in), but no sound comes out of it, in use or bypassed. It worked fine with moderate use for the two years, but then without warning just stopped working. This is a great shame because I was just starting to get in to this pedal. I was really dissapointed, as this was also what I consider my best pedal, and is certainly the most expensive.

I noticed that most of the reviews here emphasise the build quality of the pedal housing ('It's built like a tank', 'Bombproof', etc). The truth is that the diecast housing is very solid - the most solid of any pedal I have owned. The base has a thick rubber 'sole', and the pedal hinge is very sturdy. A considerable force is needed to engage the pedal, reinforcing the impression of sturdiness. However this is just the pedal housing. This being a 'Tonecore' pedal, the actual 'effect' part is housed in a small plastic module, which is removalable by unscrewing two allen bolts and pushing a release button in. The module itself seems very flimsy, although housed in the diecast casing it is unlikely to come to much harm. Now I own much flimsier pedals - Danelectro, Behringer, whose housing is plastic - hardly 'built like a tank'. However, they are sturdy enough for fairly heavy use unless you are planning on literally jumping on them. I would expect these pedals to last many, many years. I would have certainly expected the Echo Park to outlast them.

My point here is that the quality of the housing has little, if anything to do with the reliablity of this pedal. I am sure that a small electical fault is the problem in my case, albeit one that renders an expensive pedal totally unusable.

Customer Support : 5
My pedal was well out of warranty when it broke. I searched the FAQs on the Line 6 website for similar problems, of which I found none. Looking through these and similar reviews I can see that other people have had this problem, and after a similar amount of time. Line 6 at least have a FAQ and a knowledge base, I suppose.

Overall Rating : 2
I really liked this pedal, but quitting working after two years does not instill me with a great deal of confidence in Line 6 products, and I will not be replacing the pedal like-for-like.


Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: USD 100
Submitted 04/25/2008 at 01:01am by Barry Jive

Ease of Use : 7
Its pretty easy to use, but you do have to know what the Mod knob does for each type of delay, as well as each delay model (tap, multi, etc). Just use your ears and figure it out.

Sound Quality : 8
The delay sounds are great, but that's not what I wanted to write about.
Here is my setup, all powered by a daisy chained 1Spot adapter:
[MIM Telecaster or John Mayer Stratocaster -> Jekyll & Hyde OD -> Ernie Ball Jr Volume (tuner out to Boss TU 2) -> BYOC Tremolo -> Boss GE7 -> Line 6 Echo Park -> Digitech DigiVerb reverb -> Fender Blues Jr:] I wanted to address the noise complaints that I read here. I read most all of the reviews here before buying, but was still worried about it having a lot of noise problems, especially using the 1Spot adapter. But what I found was that there was no difference in noise when using a battery or using all of the pedals on the adapter. There is noise, but for my setup, it is negligible. Here is the bottom line: IF YOU ADD GAIN AFTER THIS PEDAL (via distortion pedal, boost, or high gain amp) THIS PEDAL WILL PROBABLY BE TOO NOISY FOR YOU. If you run a clean amp, I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Reliability : 9
Seems good. I gig without a backup, but why would I need a backup delay pedal?

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : 8
I like this pedal. The delays sound great, and its compact. I keep a small pedalboard, so I sold my DL4 to get this. I don't regret it. If you play a high gain amp, this pedal would likely be too noisy.


Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 04/08/2008 at 02:58am by J. Patrick

Ease of Use : No Opinion

Sound Quality : No Opinion
You could go on and on about analog pedals all day. but the facts remain.
Analog-more expensive, yet less reliable.

digital-cheaper, and more reliable.

Analog does sound better, or has the capability of sounding better. more authentic.
But truth is its just to much money for the average joe to drop on a pedal if he ever plans to be able to afford to do anything with his music.
if your a guy who has no intention of ever doing anything,play live or tour. then go ahead and blow the money. but if your a musician who plans to play live and wants to do something other then work forever to pay off a 1000 buck piece of metal. then this is the right pedal for you. ive tried alot of the analog reissues and rehashes. but they all fall way short of there original counterparts. and the original if you can get one that actually works are not a good thing to take out on stage unless you want them jacked. also analog is very flaky. it will not work the same everytime guarenteed. especially live in a unstable power enviroment. this is the best pedal sized delay box ive heard so far as far as its reliability and quality and price. yes you can tell its not the real thing if you know your delay well. but most listeners cant and wont and dont really care. it comes close enough for you to be happy. my only other option would be to have a dd-6 and a maxon analog. and thats more then i care to spend. i also use a liqua flange and yeah the foxrox paradox sounds more authentic and also costs about 6 times as much. i thought the mxr carbon copy might had made me change my mind, but i found it also is unreliable. that is if yours didnt come broke out of the box. now, if you want a digital delay get a boss dd 6 instead. but if you want a lil bit of everything for a price you can actually afford and less impact on your pedal board i pretty much dare you to try and find something better. now distortion and mod pedals are a lil different. analog can be fine cause there not as fragile or pricy. but delay is. ive had mine for a year before that i had the dl4 which was an eyesore on my pedal board. buying an echo box wont make you a gilmor or a greenwood. but it will make you too busy working overtime to ever be able to use the damn thing.

Reliability : No Opinion

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : No Opinion


Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: USD 50 USED
Submitted 02/18/2008 at 11:23am by Craig

Ease of Use : 5
The controls on this unit are pretty easy to use. The reason I gave it a 5 in this category was due to the double switch. I had some problems turning it on and off - essentially resetting the tap tempo in the process.

Sound Quality : 7
I thought it was pretty good. Some of the delays sound good - really good. Others, like the swell, weren't great. I did find many useful settings, however. I thought the tape setting was a little too emphasized. A slower roll off would have been preferred (or a user adjustable roll off). Also, the digital delay setting sounded compressed to my ear - not quite as dynamic as the original. I didn't like the analog delay setting at all. I didn't have any trouble with noise and thought it sounded pretty clean overall. I did have this plugged into the same (custom built and well filtered) power supply as my other pedals, and had no noise whatsoever. When I ran it into a direct box and monitored with headphones, I did hear a little hiss, but nothing I could make out in my rig. Also, I didn't notice the volume drop/increase thing that others did, but I also didn't measure anything, either.

Reliability : 1
Here's the thing - I hooked it up and tested it out. It worked fine. I put it on my pedalboard with a power supply. It worked fine again. Then I took it to practice. It didn't work anymore. I bought it used from a good friend who didn't use it very often at all - he had owned it for about 2 years and had it in a closet most of that time. When it failed on me at practice, it blew the fuse in my pedal power supply. I tinkered around and blew another fuse. I finally took it apart and saw what had happened - the switch to turn it on and off physically came apart on the board. That switch consists of a few beveled metal plates secured on the board by a plastic retainer. When the switch is pressed, the center of the bevel is forced to a contact on the board. The plastic retainer unclipped from the board freeing the small metal plates to roam freely inside my pedal. And, of course, they destroyed it in the process.

Customer Support : No Opinion
I didn't even bother with them since the unit was obviously not covered by warranty.

Overall Rating : 1
It's kind of a shame because it sounds ok, but the fact that it blew up on the first time I took it out makes it useless. Granted, this is an older pedal, so hopefully Line 6 has ironed out the issue with the switch.


Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: USD 70 USED
Submitted 02/17/2008 at 03:21pm by Winston Psmith

Ease of Use : 7
It's a Delay pedal, for "BOB's" sake; if you're buying one, you probably know how to use one. No editing, no upgrades. The manual is simple, but it'll get you going. I give the pedal an 7, because it's not as simple as, say, a Guyatone MD-3, and lot of players will tend to use one or two settings.

Sound Quality : No Opinion
The Echo Park has most of the fun sounds the DL4 has, except for the Looper & the Lo-Res Delay. (Did anybody ever use the Lo-res Delay?) Everybody has their own favorite settings, and we all know the features by now, so I'm writing about the daisy chain/noise issue, and the volume boost.

I've been able to overcome the volume boost problem by carefully adjusting the Mix knob. There seems to be a "sweet spot," where the wet/dry mix is in balance, more or less; on my pedal it's right before 12 o'clock, just left of center. Go past that point, and the echoes overwhelm the dry signal.

The noise issue is more complex. Using a 1700 mAmp One Spot, with a bunch of other pedals, I got a waterfall of noise whenever I tried to connect the Echo Park and a Space Chorus in the chain. (I also had a Dr. Distorto running off the same One Spot, and it didn't cause any noise problems.) If I moved the Echo Park, or the Space Chorus to another power supply, the noise went away; leaving the Dr. Distorto hooked up didn't create any problems, powering 7 or 8 other pedals didn't create any problem, but when I put the Echo Park and the Space Chorus on the same power supply again, wham, wall of noise.

Somewhere on the Line 6 website, I think in the FAQ's, one of the support people writes that you can't daisy-chain the Tonecore pedals; it seems that's only half true. The Toencore pedals are all digital, and they draw around 100 mAmps each, which means that a Boss, Digitech or Ibanez power supply rated at 200 mAmps will barely power two Tonecore pedals. The One Spot, & the Godlyke PA-9 Powerall, are rated at 1700 mAmps, which should be enough to power 17 Tonecore pedals, so what's wrong? My guess is that the Delay/Mod effects don't want to play together; the Dr. Distorto didn't cause any noise problem when chained with either the Space Chorus or the Echo Park, and another reviewer wrote that the Verbzilla didn't cause any noise problems. (Although, the Verbzilla would probably use a Delay circuit too, so that theory might not hold up.) I wonder if the Liquid Flange or the Otto Filter have the same problem. I haven't run into this with the DM4, either. By itself, or even hooked up with anything except the Space Chorus, the Echo Park was nice and quiet; together, it sounded like hell. I don't really know what to rate the Echo Park for sound quality, but my feeling is that you should be able to use it in a daisy chain without drowning in noise.

Reliability : 7
I can probably depend on it, but if it goes down, I'm not stuck without a Delay pedal. I would use it without a backup, but I'm concerned that Line 6 seems to be developing a reputation for great products that break down. The noise problem seems just plain careless to me; there have got to be guitarists working for Line 6, who would say "Hey, this is going to be a real issue for end users." I give the Echo Park a 7, because the noise issue will be a deal-breaker for a lot of players.

Customer Support : No Opinion
The website is easy to navigate, and having all the manuals online is a cool feature; the sound samples are pretty good, although they don't always match up with the knob settings in the graphic. That's all the contact I've had with the company.

Overall Rating : 7
I use a lot of processing in my sound, so I can never have too many Delay effects lying around. I've been playing since the dawn of Surf music, and I'm always looking for another Delay or Ring Modulator. I like having most of the DL4's sounds in a more compact pedal; that's why I got the Echo Park. I love the Swell effect, it's like getting a Slow Gear thrown in for free. If it were stolen or lost, I probably wouldn't run right out to get another, and if it broke down, I couldn't see the point in buying another one. The Echo Park has a few features that the Boss DD-6 and the Digitech Digidelay don't have, and it's near the middle for price. (The DD-6 is $150, the Digidelay is $100, and the Echo Park is usually $110.) The DD-6 and the Digidelay have longer delay times, 5.6 seconds for the DD-6 and 4 seconds for the Digidelay. If a friend asked me which one to get, I'd have to say try them all, and decide for yourself. For me, the Echo Park gets a 7, just because of the noise problem.


Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 01/30/2008 at 05:19am by Adrian

Ease of Use : No Opinion

Sound Quality : 6
You Guys were talking about the Volume Boost when the Effect is On.
I made an Interesting observation - I recorded a steady tone from a Synthesizer and measured the Volume Change:

Trails Off:
Pedal Off: 0
Pedal On: +0.5db

Trails On:
Pedal Off: 0db
Pedal On: +2db

I can live with the 0.5db Change, so from now on it will be Trails Off for me!

The other thing you've been talking about is Hum&Noise when you Daisy Chain your Pedals including the ToneCore. I've experienced this as well, but not only with Line6 Pedals. I've had the same problem with the new Boss RE-20 Space Delay Pedal. Maybe it's those Digital Modelling Pedals that have this Problem more than Analog and simple Digital ones?but still... It bugs me a lot!


Reliability : No Opinion

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : No Opinion
I think Line 6 should pay more attention to those tiny details that professional Musicians look for, like untouched dry signal and daisychainability!
I've owned several Line6 Rackmount Effects and because of theire Midi Implementation, they were sort of useless in a normal Rack Setup. So Line6, please be more professional!


Product: Line 6 ToneCore Echo Park
Price Paid: GBP 80
Submitted 01/28/2008 at 01:20pm by Jim

Ease of Use : 10
Easy to use, set the delay you want, tap in the tempo and turn on.

Sound Quality : 6
i play this in the effects loop of a Laney TF200. i use a '95 USA strat with it.

the pedal cuts volume and treble when off but restores it when engaged which causes a significant volume boost. but it does cut out buzz from single coils when off weirdly, but if i wanted that i wouldve bought a noise suppressor

however the delay does sound good and the tape echo simulation is nice.

Reliability : 8
i have no doubt that this would survive a gig but it sometimes gets stuck in the wrong mode

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : 7
the only thing that i have against this pedal is the tone sucking and the off switch, needs to be dropkicked to bypass.

if it was stolen id probably spend sometime to find something different, id use a cheapo behringer to provide delays until i found the right delay for me

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