Product: ProCo Deucetone Price Paid: AUSD ($320)
Submitted 10/27/2004
at 04:22am
by David Inglis
Ease of Use
:10
The rat duecetone is easy to use even though its six rats in one. its dist, tone, and volume. On the back you can choose between one of three rats per channel. Channel A has turbo, vintage, and dirty rat, channel B has clean rat turbo and vinatge. no manual, but there is one online to download as well as some cool presets. but presets are best to come up with yourself to suit guitar amp etc.
Sound Quality
:9
Ok, I have only been playing for like 3 years, I have a fender squire, hoping to upgrade soon and I use a 50 watt hughes and kettner amp. I wasnt satisfied with the distortion on the H&K so i tried some distortion pedals. The Vamp2, and a digitech OD were ones I bought and i hated them. Friend had a rat, tried it and liked it. Let me just say the Rat Duecetone is a proffesional distortion device and has really satisfied me, even through half decent equipment. The differnt rats do have unique sounds to a certain degree. The turbo has a lot more volume than the others. Some people gave the clean rat a bad rap but i actually like it and use it live. Maybe its because my amp is a little bass heavy but anyway it works. combining rats also gives good results.
Reliability
:10
Seems really reliable but it was a bit hard to find a power supply, eventually got one at a local electronics shop. Even though it was plugged in it was still going off the old 9V which was weird, but i took the battery out plugged it in and worked from then on. I gig with it and love it, really reliable, but i would say plug it in a wall and carry a seperate battery, not in the rat.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
havnt dealt with them.
Overall Rating
:10
i love the sound, i play rock to worship church music and its great for all. Let me just say it kicked the crap out of evry other distortion device i tried, Im not overly experienced but like I said i tried and buyed some well known brands. I wish and hope more people get into proco rats, maybe there is a big fanbase(as such) but the music stores I went to had never heard of rats. So get the word out, try one order one, go to the website. Long live the rats!
Product: ProCo Deucetone Price Paid: US $170
Submitted 09/27/2004
at 09:08am
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:7
Easy to use IF on each channel individually. For cascading the channels, not so easy..you've got to use the settings guide to get started. From there, not so bad.
Sound Quality
:9
Setup: Paul into Fender Deville. Not noisy. I use it in both single channel mode, and cascading channel A into B. I already have a Vinntage Rat and this one sounds a little better - meaning on the AB comparison between Deucetone Vintage Rat mode and stand alone Vintage Rat, the Deucetone's version sounds a little darker with a touch more bass to my ears. SInce I like it darker/bassier, this works fine. Overall, stunning and versatile distortion effects. The only thing I avoid is the cascading into channel B's Vintage Rat mode - the VR mode sounds better as the feeding channel versus the receiving channel. The clean and turbo rat's love to be pushed hard on channel B, so very nice, Marshally crunch!!
Reliability
:No Opinion
Don't know yet.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Overall Rating
:9
I'd buy this pedal again easy. One thing I'd change is to rearrange the pedal to work right to left in terms of signal chain processing, versus left to right as it is now. Most pedals work right to left. I also wish it has a TS-808 in there so I could pitch my other pedals!!
Product: ProCo Deucetone Price Paid: US $170
Submitted 09/03/2004
at 02:36pm
by paul_
Ease of Use
:10
Quite easy to find a good tone. Just crank the volume to match your pickup's output and adjust the filter and distortion knobs until you've got the mix of gain and EQ you want. Let's stop beating about the bush, it's a 3-knob distortion pedal, a device which is difficult to be stumped by. the special part is on the rear panel, where you can switch each of the two rat circuits to either "turbo rat", "vintage rat", or "clean rat/dirty rat" (chan. A is dirty, B is clean).
Sound Quality
:9
This is a huge improvement over all of my previous distortion sounds. I'd been using some Boss distortion pedals (ds-1 and ds-2 turbo) and the distortion from one of my amplifiers, a marshall jcm 900. This pedal produces the best (so-far) fuzztone i've heard, with the perfect balance of gain and clarity. It reminds me of a Big Muff that lets you keep more of your tone's character. My favorite setting would have to be the 'vintage rat', followed closely by the 'clean rat'. the vintage rat is good for a full-on distortion while the clean rat will serve better as an overdrive or something to boost your clean tone for a solo. the 'dirty rat' and 'turbo rat' sound similar to me, both a compressed mushy fuzz but with good harmonic response (again, a big muff that lets your tone's character shine through).
Reliability
:8
Built like a tank, just like ProCo tell you every five seconds. I'm worried about stepping on the control knobs and mangling the pot shafts but i'll just have to be careful. other than that, nothing's gonna wreck it. it's my most reliable pedal actually.
Customer Support
:10
OK, i've never dealt with proco, but i had a problem buying this pedal online. zZounds.com shipped me a unit with NO knobs on it. i was upset because i had hoped to start playing on it right away and i had to return it, but the next day they OVERNIGHTED a new pedal to me before i'd even returned the old one so that was very nice of them. i told them i had a gig on the weekend and they helped out as quickly as they can. excellent speedy service to correct an honest mistake, so i'm rating zZounds and not ProCo.
Overall Rating
:10
I play a lot of music, from blues to britpop. since i have a vintage re-issue fender and a plexi marshall, i decided i needed a Rat to complete my classic brit-pop setup. the funny thing is that this rat sounds great for any style, and has made my rig miles more versatile. if this pedal were stolen or lost, i'd buy another one in a second. if money was tight i'd buy a vintage rat or a rat 2. i'm stuck on rats now, and this pedal is responsible. i was considering buying a rat 2 for years but i'm so glad i sprung extra cash for this. 6 rats in one!
Product: ProCo Deucetone Price Paid: US $149.00
Submitted 07/30/2004
at 05:22pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:7
It's pretty easy, the input/output thing and cascading channels should only take 30 seconds to figure out. Also, the tone pot is backwards from most others, to the left is more bright, and to the right more dark. If you've ever used a Rat before, you'll have no problem with this.
Sound Quality
:9
I'm using an old 1960 Chicago model Supro. If you've never heard a supro, then think Vox and take away a little bit of warmth and reverb. I also use a Vox Ac30/6 TBX. And for my two electric guitars, An old 1960 Les Paul, and a '61 Reissue SG. This thing sounds amazing with any combination of these amps and guitars. My favorite is the SG through the Supro. It's sort of a Led Zeppelin type feel. Mine came with a little noise in the volume pot, but other than that everything works wonderfully. This is an interesting pedal because it has two channels and on each channel, three settings. On the first channel, it's the "Vinatage Rat", "Turbo Rat", And "Dirty Rat". Vintage Rat is self explanitory, the usual ProCo Rat sound. Turbo Rat is more aggresive, like using a rat with ceramic pickups instead of Alnico magnets. And Dirty Rat is like a Marshall JCM 2000 overdriven to where it's more of a metal sound. On the second channel the settings are "Vintage Rat", "Turbo Rat", and "Clean Rat". Clean rat is really really high end-ish. It makes my old Les Paul sound a little tinny, and that's hard to do. You can just turn the tone down and have it sound better, but it's still a little bit unusable. But all the other Rat sounds are great.
Reliability
:10
I used it on a gig the day after I got it. No way in the world I can see this thing messing up, or dynig on a gig without someone dropping a huge amount of weight on it, or having the power go out.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Overall Rating
:10
I play everything except rap. And I even do a little of that sometimes. It suits it all, I havn't seen or heard a genre that would make this pedal sound bad. If it were stolen I would buy another emidiately.
Product: ProCo Deucetone Price Paid: 240 (euros)
Submitted 03/03/2004
at 05:06am
by Agos
Ease of Use
:8
Very easy to use. Mine (like everyone's, I guess) comes without a manual, but no problem to find any sound you want.The fact is that you don't need a manual. There is always the ProCo website for suggested settings and stuff like that.
Sound Quality
:8
I use an Ibanez Musician, a Yamaha AES 620, Marshall JCM 2000 DSL, Boss GT-3; I bought the Deucetone mainly to use one of his channels right into the EXT OD/DS send/return of the GT-3 and it works amazing: you can switch off RAT ch 2 and add chorus, eq or delay at the same time with the CTL pedal of the GT-3. Of course the other channel of the rat goes into the GT-3 input. Like every RAT the Deuce works grat with effects.
I'm looking for my own sound. Well, honestly, the combination between any of the distortion types with the Turbo rat setting sounds a little bit harsh in the bottom end. My disappointment is that the Turbo RAT sounds harsh his own way. I already own a Turbo RAT, so i tested it. What a shame, my sound experiment failed due to the low quality, in my opinion, of the Turbo settings. I'm thinking to combine the Turbo I have with a separate Vintage RAT pedal.The vintage settings are excellent, and if you care only about that full Marshall sound, go for the Deuce, you can mix two Vintage rat at the same time and get what is closest sounding to a modern Marshall distortion ! As far as I'm concerned, I wasn't looking for a "Marshall in a box" kind of pedal because I obviously use my JCM 2000 for that.
Dirty rat can be interesting but Clean RAT is pretty useless unless you use it as a boost.
If you try to use an EQ with this pedal (like I do with my GT-3), you can obtain almost every distorted sound known to human beings. I mean Marshall and Recto kind of distortion, vintage and heavy fuzz. Experiment it!
Reliability
:9
The Turbo RAT I have is the sturdiest pedal ever. The same for the deuce. I have no experience about batteries life, I only know that Turbo battery lasts very long.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Overall Rating
:9
I have been playing for 10 years. As I said before, I'm looking for my ultimate tone. I play heavy rock. I think the Deuce suits every kind of rock. This one was the closest device I ever used to obtain "that" sond, but I'll keep experimenting with it. Anyway in my experience the Deucetone RAT is the most versatile distortion box on the market.
Product: ProCo Deucetone Price Paid: US $155
Submitted 02/23/2004
at 12:54pm
by Superlow.net
Ease of Use
:10
Pretty easy to use, unless you have two braincells that are constantly fighting...All sounds are usefull too.
Sound Quality
:9
If you like a gritty, transparent tone with plenty of bite this is the way to go.
I use this pedal through an ABY switch to put it on the front end of a modded 68 Fender Bassman and a Fargen AC 30 clone...I think Rats work great with non-master volume amps. It gives me Angus with more balls. The Pedal usually sounds great...be careful when the battery gets low, your sound will get very muddy. The filter really helps tremendously especially if you play all sorts of venues...it can help you dial in, or dial out the right amount of high end.
I give it a 9 because it can be harsh sounding at times, and it is still not the perfect tone that still eludes me...damn near close though
Reliability
:9
This pedal eats batteries, be sure you gig with an extra 9-volt...if you don't you're a clown anyway...
The pedal is made out of a heavy steel...the circuit seems a bit crammed into the pedal, so far so good, it has not given me any trouble except for sounding muddy when the battery was low.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Dunno
Overall Rating
:10
I'll give it a ten, this pedal kicks ass, especially if you want to run two amps both with overdrive...I'd buy this pedal again because it utilizes two channels and not a lot of OD pedals do that...the convenience alone is worth and it sounds great...lots of useable tones.
Product: ProCo Deucetone Price Paid: US $170
Submitted 02/03/2003
at 08:43pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:9
Brainless operation. one thing though. It should have a right to left lay out like most other effects instead of left to right. no big deal, just seems backwards to me.
Sound Quality
:9
I play a PRS swamp ash through fender amps ('69 twin reverb, 2001 twin amp) with a number of other effects and i got this to replace my old vintage rat. I loved that, and now I have basically six rats in one box (two rats with 3 modes each is more accurate i guess) for little more than twice the price. I A/B'd the old vintage rat against the "vintage rat" mode of the deuce and they were indistiguishable, so that's good. It has great smoothness. The turbo rat mode has a gutsier sound, more aggresively voiced. The dirty rat is pretty raw. a looser sound than either the vintage or turbo setting. And the clean rat is probably the weakest one--hence the 9 rating. I don't use it much as it is very trebly and lacks decent dynamic response (i don't think that any rat has ever been applauded for it's superior dynamic sensativity however). I should point out that all of these modes are similar in that they are each minor variations on the distinctive rat sound. Since i knew i liked that sound, it was a no brainer. So make sure you like that basic sound first. i think of the deuce not as one bigger better rat, more highly evolved rat, but rather as a whole generation of little rats with greater genetic diversity...you pick the ones you like.
Reliability
:No Opinion
seems dependable enough.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
never dealt with them
Overall Rating
:9
After several months, I like the deuce. There's a ton of sounds in there. I'm sure there's one for eveyone. However, there are a lot that I like. I play everything but metal, and I think the deuce has my distortion needs met (for now). There are better distortion pedals out there, but this one has a lot of variety, it's easy to use and it provides flexibility in terms of routing. You can you the two channels at separate points in your signal chain, or you can cascade them on into the other. both options are very useful. Another small complaint is that the footswitches are tough to push in and have a big click to them. this isn't a huge flaw, but it's noticeable compared to other pedals. it makes it hard to switch it while barefoot. all in all, what are my overall thoughts about the deuce...a triumph!!!
Product: ProCo Deucetone Price Paid: US $165
Submitted 01/20/2003
at 07:21am
by goozemann
Email: goozemann at hotmail<dot>com
Ease of Use
:6
Well, all you have to do is turn a bunch of knobs. However, due to the three different modes on each channel, the possibilities are staggering!!! Plus you have the option to cascade the channels together. So in that respect, it's not really a plug and play kind of pedal. I;m still playing with it...but it's easy to dial in a killer sound fairly quickly.
Sound Quality
:10
Geez Louise!!!! This has gotta be the most kick ass overdrive/distortion box on the planet!! I'm running this thru an old Fender Bassman 100 head and Marshall 2x12 cab. Various Gibson and Jackson axes. Just playing around with some of the settings from the proco "Deucetone settings guide" on their website, and the sound out-Marshalls my Marshall!! Incredible crunch and smoldering low end. The key is you gotta run it into a good tube amp. The Bassman is perfect...and I would guess Hiwatts would work good, too. With Marshalls, you may want to use it more as a "boost" than in full distortion mode. With Boogies or Soldano's, you probably don't even need it...it will just muddy things up. But if you want a killer sound, and can't afford a vintage Marshall or Rectifier, find an old Fender and use this thing!
Reliability
:No Opinion
I'm too old to gig.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Overall Rating
:10
This box will pretty much cover all your overdrive/distortion needs. You can dial in mild, tube-screamer like overdrive, or set it to all out, balls to the wall raunch. It sounds unbelievable thru a good Tube head. You will not be disappointed.
Product: ProCo Deucetone Price Paid: US $175
Submitted 10/15/2002
at 08:59pm
by Rob
Email: Tiredoldbruce at hotmail<dot>com
Ease of Use
:7
No manual came with mine, but, come on. It's just two Rats in one, with a couple of added switches. I don't like how if you cascade the channels (they DO have two inputs and two outputs for stereo) the input is on the far left and the output is on the far right. And even though it is fairly simple to use, it takes a bit of tweaking to find two good usable sounds.
It has two footswitches, one for each channel. Same topside controls as other Rats.
Sound Quality
:9
Wow. Wowee-wow-wow. I use a Rick 330, Burns Bison and Marquee (RI's both) through a RI AC-30. Lots of good usable sounds (it just takes time). I have an early Rat 2 with no LED and both channels sound better, even to my bandmate's ears (yes, I know, very strange. Mostly they don't care or notice).
Let's see, in chan. A you have a slide switch in the back for Turbo Rat, Vintage Rat, and Dirty Rat (new sound. whatever.) and Chan. B has Turbo, Vintage and Clean Rat (very cool, more of a boost, but not transparent, you know? think low-mid boost). Sorry for all of the parentheses-es.
Turbo has more output, but vintage setting is the best in my opinion. Not much different from Dirty Rat. The distortion is familiar, compressed and juicy, but for some reason has much more low end than my old RAT 2. Big fat distortion, yay! However, the clean rat setting is seriously lacking in the lowend dept.
Regardless of its minor shortcomings or seemingly redundant features, this pedal is incredible.
Since it is actually two pedals, you can get three sounds altogehter. This sold me on it right away over other pedals that have a separate boost channel.
Reliability
:10
Now, listen here. From now on, I don't want to see any other pedals besides the Rat get a "10" in this category. Got it?
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Never had to deal with them. I'd like to meet someone who did...
Overall Rating
:9
This pedal is for rock. Indie, punk, alternative, classic, hard, Fraggle. Just turn it on and let it Rock, please.
OK, I bought it for the name, novelty, sturdiness, etc. I planned on trying it out for a while (save that receipt, holmes) but decided to keep it after thirty minutes or so at practice. It's not just more versatile than my older Rat 2, it sounds better. And it's two of 'em. I bought mine at American Music in Seattle, but I don't know if they're available everywhere yet.
Oh yeah, and the fact that the two heavy duty switches are close enought to stomp with ONE FOOT makes it worth every penny of $175.