Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
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Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: USD 675 USED
Submitted 08/17/2009
at 04:07pm
by Nearl
Ease of Use
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9
Tons of features, very easy to use. I love that it uses knobs still instead of all buttons.
Sound Quality
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10
This thing sounds like no other amp I've had. I've owned tons and tons of amps, and this one is my favorite. Cleans are plenty good, classic distortion sound is awesome, and covers heavy heavy distortion with ease. I've heard that a 12AT7 in V1 will sweeten the clean channel, so I'll try that soon. The fact that it is so versatile, and covers so many sounds lands this one a 10.
Reliability
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10
I haven't had any issues at all with it, seems to be built like a tank. I play without a backup all the time (even though I have two piranha's haha).
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Haven't dealt with them yet. Although I hear they are good.
Overall Rating
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10
I play everything from classic rock to metal, and this preamp delivers. I've had a ton of amps to compare it against, and not only does it sound better, it also is MIDI, so no contest there. Please use it with a good tube power amp!
Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: USD 650 USED
Submitted 08/05/2009
at 04:25pm
by JP
Ease of Use
:
10
I am no MIDI expert, yet I can find patches, edit, and store with no difficulty whatsoever. The Piranha has a great interface, and I love that it uses knobs, and clearly shows the value for whatever field you are editing, as well as the number for the preset.
The manual was good, focusing more on the features and the use of the preamp rather than how to find certain tones.
Sound Quality
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10
I hope this doesn't sound too 'glowing' but this preamp is amazing. I have owned a grip load of tube amps over the years, and this little unit just continues to impress me. From Mark IV's to vintage SUNN's and everything in between I've owned at some point.
The Piranha sounds great no matter what genre (for me classic rock to metal mostly) and the mid freq control is very cool- opens up a ton of different sounds. The two distortion modes are great, I was shocked at how well the classic distortion sounded.
The clean channel is not the best I've ever head, but it is certainly miles from the worst and plenty capable.
My current setup with the Piranha consists of: Mesa/Boogie 20/20, Piranha, Furman conditioner, BBE 462i (which the Piranha doesn't even need), Gibson Les Paul classic with SD pickups, pedal board (535Q, whammy, EB volume pedal, barber tone press, EH electric mistress, BOSS DD-20 TU-2 and NS-2, MXR 10 band EQ, and a RRPG 8 Looper). I'll probably sell the MXR as I don't really need it with the Piranha now.
I run all of this into custom built detuned cabinets.
Reliability
:
10
Seems to be extremely well built. Solid, quality parts. I don't think I'll encounter any problems with it. I'd gig without a backup.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
I haven't had to deal with Rocktron at all. Which is the best customer support- one that you don't need.
Overall Rating
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10
For my tastes and playing style (classic rock to metal) this fits perfectly. I've been playing for about 12 years now, and have gone through many many amps, guitars, speakers, pickups, pedals, etc etc. I love this Rocktron and am very glad that I found it. Now my rack is small, light and lethal. I wish it would cool my beer or wash my car, but it does plenty.
Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 04/20/2008
at 01:30pm
by john cox, Lafayette, louisiana
Ease of Use
:
10
Very easy to use. See other reviews.
Sound Quality
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10
hands down the best preamp I've ever used and I've used a lot of them: Ada, mesa boogie, Marshall, etc. I use the rocktron with a furman pq3, rocktron intellifex xl, and a retro-sonic stereo chorus. I frontload this into a '73 100 watt Marshall. My speakers argenz-benz g-flex. I run the Marshall at about 4 to open up the harmonic structure and dynamics of the marshall and control the overall volume with the piranha. I use a midimate to switch everything out. The preamp tubes in the Marshall are Ei ecc83 and for the rocktron I use tung sol 12ax7 for both tubes. Contrary to alot of reviews you can get any clean sound you want all you have to do is keep the volume of the presets low on your distortion low (below10) this will give more than adequate headroom for your clean settings. The high gain aspects of this preamp in are unmatched in my opinion both in dynamics and harmonic content. The furman pq-3 really help though to add low end and have better control of midrange scoop.
Reliability
:
10
Built like a tank. Instant patch switching with absolutely no latency. I've used this preamp for 10 years with know issues whatsoever. You don't need a backup.
Customer Support
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10
Jim is a great guy and is more than willing address any concerns you have.
Overall Rating
:
10
10
Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 08/18/2007
at 09:15am
by Aleister
Email: aleister<at>metalzone dot info
Ease of Use
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No Opinion
Sound Quality
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No Opinion
Just a quick addition to my review (huge thank you to Thales from Gammoth for reminded me). I found the cause and solution of the crackling noises by accident. Well, the noise (when palm-muting, crackling like when stepping in the broken glass) was caused by the DiMarzio EVO 2 pickup. I've swapped it for active EMG 81 and the noise is gone absolutely.
Reliability
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No Opinion
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Overall Rating
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No Opinion
Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: USD 560 USED
Submitted 12/05/2006
at 03:20am
by Aleister
Email: aleister at metalzone<dot>info
Ease of Use
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10
Well, it has MIDI (caution - MIDI can be used only for switching patches, no control changes as I've read somewhere), few buttons, 99 memories for patches, clean/distorted/more distorted sound - nothing complicated really. That's good. Manual is quite good too.
Sound Quality
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9
Now this is a very complicated question with Piranha. I experimented a lot with settings and especially with tubes, because the preamp was rather noisy and produced strange crackling while palm muting. Now I'm almost satisfied, though some noise still remains. I found as the best this combination of tubes: clean tube (marked TB1 on a cirquit board) - Marshall 12AT7 (12AT7 turned out to be much better for the clean sound than 12AX7); dirty tube (TB2) - Tung Sol 12AX7 (very powerful and rich sound, low noise). And carefully with settings. I play kinda thrash metal and use modern (more distorted) sound with gain never over 50. The sound is really brutal and pushing. Overall the sound is great and aggressive, just the noise spoils it a little, though when the whole band plays, it's not audible at all.
My rig is: Focus JCK with DiMarzio EVO II pickup or Aria MAC 7 with DiMarzio PAF 7 -> AKG GuitarBug -> AKG WMS 40 receiver -> Rocktron Piranha -> Boss VF1 (in the Piranha loop) -> Marshall 9200 tube poweramp -> Mastersound 4??12 box.
Reliability
:
10
10 with no doubt. Built like battleship.
Customer Support
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10
No doubt here too, Jim Chowning from Rocktron is excellent guy, experienced, very friendly and helpful.
Overall Rating
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9
Overall this is an excellent piece of equipment. I really don't undestand, why Rocktron discontinued it or why they don't produce something similar. It's really very very flexible, you can dial up any tone you wish - from sweet cleans (with 12AT7) over slightly distorted blues to absolute massacre. Only flaw is the noise in heavy distorted sound. If you'd find the way to get rid of it, please drop me an e-mail.
Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: US $265 used
Submitted 05/04/2006
at 05:43pm
by ross j. johnson
Email: singtall at hotmail<dot>com
Sound Quality
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10
i use this preamp live and in the studio. the piranha has a wide range of useful sounds but the bottom end is too loose for speed metal. for speed metal you need an Engl E530. for everything else this preamp kills! i have tried the preamp with a variety of guitars and cabinets and i am amazed by the great tone i can dial in (was rockron on crack when they stopped making this unit?) i am able to get a dream theatre to fender twin clean, with a vox ac30 to blackface grit, to full out marshall meets booogie distortion and beyond. you can get many great tones if you just use your ears and stop paying attention to the knobs and settings. the tone circuits are active, meaning if you dial up your favorite old marshall tone settings it may sound like crap. use little changes in tone controls. i also have the peavey tubefex preamp and the difference is that the rocktron has much more highs and lows available. i can get the peavey sound by dialing down the highs, so don't let the other review scare you off.
Features
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9
midi switchable analog tube preamp with built in hush.
Reliability
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10
built like a brick! 7 years with no backup and no problems ever.
Customer Support
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10
rocktron is one of the best when it comes to customer support. they have mailed me parts for other fx on the road at no charge. they supplied schematics and tech support for free. how many other companies will help you troubleshoot and repair your own gear on the road?
Overall Rating
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9
for the money, it can't be beat. no modeling can touch this reality. if you have money to burn, buy a triaxis. if you just need a real solid quiet tone machine, this is it.
Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: US $300 used
Submitted 03/28/2006
at 04:02pm
by Kenneth
Ease of Use
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9
I'll give a short list of features: 1U rackmount, two 12AX7 preamp tubes, MIDI with 100 presets, front and back inputs, XLR simulated outs as well as regular jack lineouts, easy to use frontpanel knobs and pushbuttons for storing presets.
Others have mentioned the easy-to-use front panel buttons. I agree with them - this unit is a breeze to use. Good sounds can be dialed in quickly, and saved with a few presses of buttons. The parametric mid is simple to use, just turn the knobs. Much better than pushbuttons.
Only minor drawback is that the pushbuttons seems to be either too sensitive or sometimes don't react. Anyway, these can be replaced, and I just might...
The manual is simple and straightforward, and tells you all you need to know.
Sound Quality
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9
Am using an Ibanez RG-350EX tuned drop-C into the piranha, followed by a poweramp that I designed and built myself (125W solidstate), into a Marshall 1922 with two Jensen C12N 12" speakers.
There's very little noise even on high gain, and what is there is quickly removed with the HUSH controls.
I have replaced the chinese (Audio Glassic) tubes with Sovtek 12AX7LP's, and sometimes I run a GE 12AT7 in the first socket.
The Sovteks tightened the whole thing up a bit, turning a good preamp into a great one. The clean sounds very good, and is easily brought to a slight breakup when the gain is turned up. The distortion button brings out the marshall-ish distortion sounds, and another push brings out screams of higain. Forget the guys who says it can't reach mesa-levels or play clean good - this one does both those very well. They can't possibly have messed around with the controls more than a few seconds. Although it *does* sound better with better tubes than the stock ones.
I did manage to get it to go a bit microphonic with high gains and mid, plus maxed treble with the 12AT7 in the preamp. Has not been a problem since I reverted to 12AX7's in both sockets. Rather odd, the AT7 having less gain. Then again, it does not look as solidly built.
All in all a great versatile preamp. Pity they discontinued it.
Reliability
:
8
Built to last, no doubt about it. I would actually gig without a backup, but I would bring spare tubes ;) But in a box like this, preamp tubes will last as long as is needed I reckon. Weird things sometimes happen, though.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
No dealings with Rocktron.
Overall Rating
:
9
I play mostly droptuned metal, and the piranha does great. The cleans and crunch are very good too. I've been playing for three years, and I certainly don't have the experience with the gear many others have, but I do have ears, and an extensive amount of experience with audio and electronics, and not least I know what kind of sounds I like ;)
If it were stolen, I'd be very upset... and I'd certainly try to get a replacement.
The best "feature" beside the sound quality is the simplicity of dialing in sounds and storing them for future use. The XLR simulated outputs are nice too, but doubling them with simpler jacks for gear that takes singleended signals would be better.
I considered a Marshall JMP-1 and a Mesa Studio too, the former was considered to be a one-trick pony my many, and is not as easy to use. The latter is useless when presets are needed. The Piranha beats both for my needs.
At the price I paid, it's a solid 9.
Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: US $300 used
Submitted 02/11/2006
at 10:39am
by Jimmy
Ease of Use
:
10
Even though this is a midi rackmount preamp it is still super-easy to edit and find your tone given that the knobs and eight front panel buttons are right there in front of you. Unlike Mesa's Triaxis with its multiple arrows and other midi preamps where you have multiple buttons and edit switches, this thing is a breeze to use. Sure, its not as simple as a combo or head, but I give it a ten when comparing apples to apples.
Sound Quality
:
10
Currently I use this with a Mesa 20/20 stereo power amp and a Rocktron Replifex. I purchased one of those little Crate Power Blocks so I can run both through headphones so I don't piss off the wife. I've also got a B-52 4 X 12 cab (an absolute steal at their price point) and Celestion Vintage 30 loaded ADA 2 X 12 cabs for running stereo.
The Piranha is extremely versatile. Great vintage and modern distortion tones can be had all the way to crystal clean. I can pretty much nail the Van Halen tone from the first album running it through my Rocktron Replifex to add the reverb, phasing, and flanging found on the first album. When I'm using the headphones, I use the Replifex's speaker simulator. (The Replifex is also an awesome piece of gear.)
Comparing this to my Rivera I'd say this unit has a more bit more grit to it, and more gain. The Rivera has somewhat of an audiophile quality smooth distortion to it. Not at all bad, just different. The Piranha doesn't quite cop the saturation of say a Dual Rectifier, but that's not the tone I'm after, given that I'm pretty sick of hearing it on the radio all the time. I like the vintage 80's and 90's Marshall tones. I've played through the DSL and TSL stuff and am pretty disappointed with them. Some sound OK, and others just plain horrible. The variety of quality from one piece to another, along with their price tag just keeps steering me away from even thinking about buying one.
Overall I have to give the Piranha a ten in terms of tone. I've played through Bogner's, Marshall's, Rivera's, Mesa's, Soldano's, Matchless, own both a Rivera M-60 head and an original '65 Fender Deluxe Reverb, and this piece is quality gear with the best of them at a bargain basement price.
If your after thin transister sounding tone like Tullio below, go buy the Peavey he thinks blows this away. More power to him. If you want an extremely versatile tube preamp, and are willing to spend a little extra time getting used to the mid frequency knobs, (which really expand the tone shaping capability of this unit) you can get some awesome tones from the Piranha. I still can't understand why they quit making this unit, as its probably one of the best products they ever had.
Reliability
:
9
I bought the unit used, so it's been around awhile. No problems. I've taken the top off to change the tubes (NOS Chinese 12AX7's) and it looks extremely well built. Would I gig it without a backup? I wouldn't gig with anything without a backup, too many things can happen regardless of what your using. I saw a guy blow his "handwired military grade build" Matchless. Regardless of how much the thing costs, something can always happen to even the best gear.
Customer Support
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5
I called Rocktron's tech guy. I didn't call about the Piranha, it was about a Chameleon I purchased off Ebay which the idiot seller packed like he was shipping a piece of wood and the LCD display went out on it due to it bouncing around in the UPS truck. Overall, I give them a five simply because he told me that I couldn't get the display from anyone else except them, which turned out to be false as I bought it straight from the manufacturer.
Overall Rating
:
10
Overall, I give this unit a ten. I've played through alot of expensive gear over the twenty plus years I've been playing, and the Piranha definitely holds its own with the best of them at a bargain basement price. My Rivera pretty much sits in the closet now, as well as the Deluxe Reverb. I'm too stubborn to get rid of them, especially the Fender given its collectibility.
I like just about all kinds of rock and blues, and I can get any tone I want out of this thing. It definitely blows all of the "modelling" stuff out of the water in terms of tone.
If it was stolen, I'd probably wind up trying to pick up another, although they are getting pretty hard to come by now. I'm also pretty much a "gear head" constantly checking different stuff out, and I haven't found anything yet that would cause me to get rid of this preamp, so I'm sure I'd be pretty pissed if I had to go hunting down another one.
Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: US $325
Submitted 07/06/2005
at 06:05pm
by Lloyd
Email: lloben<at>earthlink dot net
Sound Quality
:
9
In contrast to the last review by dear, dear Tullio who "thanks god" sold his unit, this is a fine preamp. Both clean and drive sounds are pretty robust and about the last thing I'd describe the overdrive as sounding like would be a cheap fuzz box. I'd have to conclude that his preamp was not working properly. Or perhaps he's not working properly. Take your pick. In any event, you can easily get JCM 800 or 900 levels of crunch. I did find that I had to dial back both the Treble and Middle pots a bit but they have dials, after all, and so, this seems easy enough.
Features
:
9
I believe the model I have was built in about 1998. I won't bore you with any of the details of operation of the unit, of which you've doubtlessly read time and again.
Reliability
:
9
Very nicely built, with clean, clean outlay of circuitry and a toroidal transformer, for goodness sakes. You won't find that in the ADA MP-1, I would point out.
Customer Support
:
8
I contacted Rocktron about some component values on the tube board and they got back to me promptly the first go round. The second question I had for them was not answered, however, though my question turned out to be superfluous.
Overall Rating
:
9
Really a great preamp but you have to be in the mood for MIDI switching of channels. Personally, I don't know why that should be so big a deal but, admittedly, it's not a simple range of two or three channels.
Product: Rocktron Piranha Tube Guitar Preamp
Price Paid: 200 (euro) used
Submitted 05/04/2005
at 10:24am
by Tullio
Email: johnpetrucci82 at tiscali<dot>it
Sound Quality
:
1
This is an AWESOME pile of junk. Fuzzy, buzzy, shitty sounding tube preamp. If you want a crappy distorsion that sounds like a dying cat, your choice is right. Distorsions may be thick but they are also really fuzzy, muddy and sloppy. It seems that you are playin' with an old fuzzy overdrive pedal -_-' I'm using 2 electro harmonix tubes so this overpriced piece of shit can't be so bad sounding because of tubes... Clean channel is nice but the volume is really low. Thanks god I sold it!
Features
:
8
Midi programmable, continuous controller option, Fx loop, direct outputs with speaker simulation and two 12ax7 tubes. Really easy to use... just turn the knobs, choose if your patch is goin' to be clean or distorted (you can choose between modern distorsion and vintage distorsion) and here we go: let's start playing.
Reliability
:
9
Very sturdy, reliable. I'll put a 9 because I don't wanna give a 10 to this piece of crap.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
No idea.
Overall Rating
:
2
This unit sucks. Don't buy it, after a while you'll desire to trash it. It's a waste of money. Go instead on a peavey tubefex (this one is REAL TUBE PREAMP, a nice rival of Mesa Boogie's products) or on ada (mp1 and mp2) if you don't want to pay more than 300 or 350$.
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