Tone in Progress Third Hand
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Product: Tone in Progress Third Hand
Price Paid: #100 (stirling)
Submitted 01/14/2006
at 11:06am
by SAM
Ease of Use
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2
The sound is irrelevant, its purely mechanical. plus if you overtighten the knob on the pedal it don't work. pretty sketchy.
Sound Quality
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1
Pass, its just a big metal box with a tightly wound spring. it'll be -*/-*/ in a year.
Reliability
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1
i wouldn't trust this pedal to do anything. certainly wouldn't use it live, i bought it to adjust the speed on a micro vibe pedal. hmmm.
Customer Support
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1
being over in england. no.
Overall Rating
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1
this is the only speed adjuster i could get for a micro vibe, take note voodoo lab!!! its ok and all just feel a bit burnt amnd tied as no-one else makes something like this for pedals. quote of the month goes to the guy in the shop.
'its a HAND MADE boutique effect'
me
'too */*/*/ right! looks like my granmother made it!'
Product: Tone in Progress Third Hand
Price Paid: US $105
Submitted 11/08/2004
at 06:42am
by Carlos
Email: losian at gmail<dot>com
Ease of Use
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7
Got this from Music Toyz, needed an expression pedal for a delay pedal but didn't want to go through the hassle of electronic modification. This pedal is completely mechanical! Roughly the size of an ernie ball volume pedal (a hair wider, but not as long). I give it a 7 cause you need a hex wrench to attach the cable to the 3rd Hand and to the knob you want to tweak, it's a pain while rushing to set-up/breakdown at a show. If only the cable had little knobs or something...
Sound Quality
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10
I use this pedal to tweak the feedback knob on my guyatone md-3 delay. Before I would have to interrupt my playing. Now I can go from slapback to space-rock freakout whenever I want without stopping to stoop over my fx pedalboard! For me it's a godsend!
Reliability
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No Opinion
The pedal itself is build like a tank. The mechanism however is a bit sketchy. It's just a rubber belt looping around a wheel controlled by the pedal, and then looped twice around the shaft that drives the cable that you connect to another pedal. This belt will eventually wear out I guess, but what doesn't? I've had an ernie ball pedal that is pretty much the same idea mechanically (eb's execution is better though cause they use a teflon cable and not a rubber belt), and it's lasted me 3+ years. As for the 3rd hand only time will tell!
Customer Support
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No Opinion
I've only seen this company on Musictoyz, and I haven't needed to contact them (yet).
Overall Rating
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7
I'm sure there are better ways of making a pedal like this, but the fact is I've needed this pedal for a long time and now I've got one. No, it ain't perfect, but I figure this is a first for TIP so the more people get this pedal and criticize it the better future products will be! Bottom line, this pedal allows me realize the guitar noise freakouts I've always wanted to play. 'nuff said!
Product: Tone in Progress Third Hand
Price Paid: US $100.00
Submitted 10/21/2004
at 04:28pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
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10
Simple, It is a passive (mechanical) expression pedal. Push the pedal forward and it turns a knob on some other effect clockwise (up) and vise versa.
Sound Quality
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10
Not Applicable-the guitar signal doesn't even pass through this thing. It is 100% true bypass all the time!
Reliability
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2
I'll explain everything below. I can't believe they brought this thing to market.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Haven't bothered yet since the company doesn't seem to exist on the internet. I purchased this through Music Toyz.
Overall Rating
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2
I'm about to give this Third Hand my third finger because of the way it was designed. First, since it is an effect for an effect I would like to be as minimally intrusive to my pedal board as possible. This thing is so huge only Bigfoot could love it.
But that is totally forgivable, compared to the operating design. The idea of the flex cable driving a knob on a seperate pedal is a real and true innovative approach that I wish I'd thought of. But that is where the goodness ends.
They use a nylon belt to drive the drive spindle from the footpedal, which is understandable given cost constraints. To make this pedal as comparably tough as most effects pedals it really should be driven by a simple mechanical gearing (rack and pinion perhaps).
Even the belt is a forgivable design feature, but did they include a tensioner so that the belt can be adjusted to provide adequate tension to prevent slippage? No! they just kept twisting it over on itself until they thought it would be tight enough on the driving shaft. Most guitar gear is commercial grade stuff, but this pedal doesn't stand much chance against the test of time.
Of course I don't mean to imply that it has worked properly from day one. The ratios between the pedal and the draft shaft are correct such that full range of the pedal will operate the full range of the Potentiometer on the effect, assuming there is no slippage. But there is slippage! It couldn't turn my effect up all the way because it kept bunding on its own belt because of the way they had twisted the belt so many times.
I am thinking about adding my own tensioner to this thing, but I will need a new belt, because the stock one is already stretch like a ribbon curled with scissors for wrapping a present.
Inexusable. Don't buy this unless you like being pissed off, ot until TIP corrects the design by adding a tensioner or design a geared drive system.
I know it seems that I'm talking like I'm some sort of engineer, but I am! I'm an aerospace mechanisms engineer working on designs of Fighter Jets. I believe I am qualified to render such a verdict.
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