Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: US $600 used
Submitted 02/01/2005
at 10:35am
by Anonymous
Features
:7
It's a simple bass, nonactive electrics.
Sound
:7
Sounds OK, but not enough tone range for me. The neck it weak and rubbery and is a buzzsaw if you like low action.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:5
The finish is good looking and helps maintain a wood sound. The neck is not my style. Too thin front to back. I had a hard time getting a low enough action to make it a decent player for me. The neck is too thin near the heel and bends too much there. For players that like a high action, for which it is very good.
Reliability/Durability
:6
The hardware and finish are excellent, but I demand much more stability in a neck. I had to do too many truss rod adjustments as the weather changed. I only buy basses with reinforced necks from here on out. They sound better, too. Much more even response. This has a dead spot neck like old Fenders and Gibsons. My low action style demands neck stability. Modulus, Spector (USA & Euro), Warwick (German), Status Graphite and a lot of other brands have much better necks. Get a good neck on your bass if you want low action that sounds like something besides a buzzsaw.
Customer Support
:2
When I called about getting the neck straightened, they told me where to go..........after waiting several days for a reply.
Overall Rating
:5
Excellent finish and good looking. Fairly comfortable. Since I couldn't make it work for me personally, I have to give it a failing grade. Even a cheap Chinese bass that I can get a low action out of will get a 6 if it is OK otherwise. I liked the tone, but the action was too high when I raised it just enough to quit sounding like a buzzsaw. Check the necks on Rickenbackers very closely before buying, because they are very thin and not reinforced. RIC should reinforce their bass necks, but they are too damn hidebound to past tradition to ever do that. RIC is NOT my bass company for sure. This would work for a high actioned James Jamerson style of player, but modern bass players need a more modern neck.
Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: US $700 used
Submitted 01/10/2005
at 10:54pm
by Anonymous
Features
:8
The best Ricky bass.........dual humbuckers!
Sound
:9
Has the best Rickenbacker bass pickups. Very quiet with lots of output. They go low and stay clear. Only negative is lack of separate tone controls or blend knob. Output is fixed between both pickups when both are selected. This bass sounds like wood due to the varnish finish. The pickups are wound to a high impedance and do not allow much high frequencies to be produced. Very good bass for country, blues and other bottom heavy styles. Select the bridge pickup only and you can forget about ever needing a P-bass. You can also chuck your old neck heavy Gibson T-Bird. This is better. It works well for long piano ringing notes. Not what I would get for fast lead work needing more treble. It lays down a solid foundation. The neck pickup is thunder, but not muddy sounding.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:9
Hardware is very good quality. Has unusual varnish finish, like a fine violin. Maybe that's responsible for the clear tone. The bridge on these is better than the old 4001 basses. It is free of that worthless 4001 and 4003 bridge pickup cover that always gets in the way.
Reliability/Durability
:8
Not much can go wrong, and if it does it should be a fairly easy fix. The neck could be stronger because it is rather thin with no reinforcement. If you get wild and start pulling on the neck, fret buzz is easily induced. I think the thin neck is what gives it the tone though, besides the overwound pickups.
Customer Support
:4
They will sell you parts, no problem. Has to go back to factory under warranty, so not worth sending back for small problems. Unless you have a major problem, you essentially have no warranty. Make sure you walk out the door with a good one.
Overall Rating
:8
I could have gotten a really good bass for a lot less money, like a used Schecter Stiletto or even a new Peavey Grind NTB-4. However, only a Ricky bass sounds like a Ricky bass, and this one sounds better than those Ricky 4003 single coil basses, and quieter too. Spector and Warwick make basses in Europe that can be had for around the 4004L price. You get a choice of bolt-on or neck-thru with them, and different woods. No choice with the 4004L, all maple but a low and clear tone. Fact is, there are lots of good basses for between $500-$1000, or even less if you get lucky. I can't see getting a Ricky 4004 Cheyenne, as it's about the same as the 4004L except several hundred more for gold hardware and really nothing else more that matters. My favorites that can be had for between $500-$1000 USED: Ricky 4004L, Ernie Ball StingRay, Spector Euro, Warwick Streamer, Peavey Cirrus, Modulus Flea, Tobias Growler. I feel that one of those are better than the more common Fender P and J basses or Rickenbacker 4001 0r 4003 basses. For $300-$500 you can get a Schecter Stiletto, Spector Legend or used ReBop, or a new Peavey Grind NTB-4 or new Spector Performer or Warwick Streamer Basic. They will all beat the standard Fender P or J basses made in Mexico. I think the 4004L is about as low priced as you can go and get a genuine varnish finish. Don't know if that matters much, but the Jetglo finish is nice. The new ones can be had in various colors, but will set you back well over $1000 for new. I would say get an old Jetglo finish like I did or wait a while. You gotta be nuts to pay over $1000 for a bass when used Euro Spectors are commonly found for $1000 or less with flamed maple bodies. I played much more expensive basses, and they don't really sound any better than my Ricky 4004L. If I had only half as much money, I would have been very happy with the Peavey Grind NTB-4. If you need a lot of sweet highs, then look at the Spector basses, or maybe a Schecter. If you want to growl all night, then get a used StingRay or S.U.B. or Growler. The 4004L is more of a kick back and groove bass. If you play a 4003, check out the 4004, because it plays more comfortably and is better for slapping. It's the only Ricky bass I'll own from now on, and it spanks the Gibson T-Bird and hands back a lot of change. My StingRay kicked the old P-bass out the door, and my Euro Spector did the same thing to the J-bass (so would a Warwick Streamer or Corvette). I'm looking for a graphite necked bass I can live with, but the Flea bass leaves me a bit cold. Need twin pickups to combat that graphite sterility, but Status Graphite basses are rare and usually above my $1000 price ceiling even when used. The 4004L is a top bass to consider if you want the dual passive humbucker lowdown sound in a neck-thru design. I can't tell where the high dollar passive boutique basses sound any better. If you can't afford this bass then a Peavey Grind NTB-4 should do and they are easier to find besides costing a lot less. However, those Rickenbacker humbucker bass pickups are in a class of their own. Just don't expect the most versatile sound. Get a Warwick or Spector for versatility. I'm fairly turned off toward Fender and Gibson basses. Others do better for less money, no matter what Fender or Gibson/Epiphone bass you buy. The Tobias is the best Gibson bass made, but generally too expensive. Rickenbacker has managed to look and sound unique down through the years, but they better keep an eye of Peavey with their Cirrus and Grind basses. If Cirrus basses cost less, I might give them the nod over the 4004L. I think the Schecter Elite is aimed more toward the Spector/Warwick/G&L import camp. The 4004L is one of very few domestic production basses that can be found at real world prices that hasn't been bettered all around by imported instruments for equal or less money. Most of its betters are high dollar basses.
Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: US $1000 used
Submitted 10/20/2004
at 10:05pm
by pac
Features
:7
Dual passive humbuckers, one volume and one tone control, solid maple neck-thru construction, 1991 model with early style of neck pickup against fretboard, maple fretboard, Jetglo black varnish finish.
Sound
:8
I changed the tone control to a separate volume control for the bridge pickup, then I had a luthier rout extra cavity space for an Aguilar OBP-1 active preamp which gives me bass and treble boost. Controls were placed in line behind the two original controls for four controls in a row: volume, volume, treble, bass. The neck pickup tone was incredibly deep and clear to begin with, but the treble boost was needed for the overwound humbucker pickups to get some upper end into the sound. The humbuckers are very quiet and take the boost very nicely. The bass will now shake the house down if you have the amp for it. Sound is now close to the best you will ever get if you prefer a dark sounding bass, but very clear in tone. A great bass if you like feeling the bass and feeling it pound you in the chest while maintaining clarity. Besides the high quality pickups which are some of the best passive pickups around, the 100% maple body maintains clarity while neck-thru construction lends a piano-like ringing character to the tone. Rickenbacker refuses to produce an active bass, but the Aguilar OBP-1 and OBP-3 preamps solve that problem nicely. I checked the sound with an Aguilar DB-924 plug-in preamp before committing to the OBP-1 preamp, which is the same circuit, but the OBP-1 is for on-board installation and is quite small. This is the best sounding Rickenbacker bass, unless you are in a Beatles or Yes cover band and need a wiry 4001 sound. It got even better when I went active and got more tonal range. Originally, the sound was 7 or 8 for me, but tweaking made it a solid 9. The rating is for original sound. Dead notes are sometimes noticeable, but no worse than a P-bass as mentioned in a previous post. I tend to play low on the neck with this bass, so I rarely hit a dead note. This is not the bass for a recording session player that has to cover a lot of different styles and be very strong in all of them. This is the bass for a player that specializes in dark tones more than bright tones. But no matter how dark and deep you dial in the tone, it doesn't go to mush unless another piece of equipment in the chain can't hack it.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:8
I have a slightly more comfortable bass, but the 4004L is more comfortable than most basses, is reasonably light, has good balance, and it looks absolutely killer in its shiny Jetglo finish with chrome hardware and shiny stainless strings. It puts any 4001 or 4003 out to pasture in the sound and looks department for my sense of tone and style, yet it is less produced than the other RIC basses. While I will not say it is the absolute best bass, there is nothing else like it and it will hold its own in any situation, whether we are talking sound or style. It is good enough to play anywhere for anybody. I have had better action, but this bass is good enough. It prefers a somewhat higher action and somewhat aggressive playing style. This may be its individual character and not indicative of other 4004 basses (You will never get to play many 4004 RIC basses as they are hard to find and few players are letting them go). I would not say this is true of the 4001 and 4003 RIC basses I have played. I had to play with the action quite a bit to get it where I wanted it, which is where the instrument gives up its best performance. That is why each of my 4 basses has a different setup and feel. The intonation is more correct with a slightly high action and almost straight neck. If you want to play laid back and easy all night, you would be better off with one of my other basses. After setting up a bass to where I feel it gives its best performance, if I can't warm up to it, I sell it on down the line to somebody who likes that kind of action and feel. The chromed hardware is very good, and the varnish finish is very beautiful and quite hard and durable. The tuners hold the tune. I have seen custom instruments that were better made, but they cost more. Not the best bass for very low action. The neck is fairly wide at the nut, but average width at the heel, and consistently thin all the way up and down the neck. Make your own decision what that does for you. It's OK for me, but my Spectors feel better since they're a bit thicker. Many disagree with me, preferring the thin 4004 neck. RIC was known to change their bass neck profiles over the years, so take what I saw with a bit of caution and try the bass first if you can. My Spector bass is my PERSONAL favorite, but it should be considering what I paid for it. Other people react on what THEY see and feel. The 4004L is liked by those who know nothing about musical instruments and just form an opinion on looks and sound. Black and chrome goes with anything you wear on stage.
Reliability/Durability
:9
I installed Schaller strap lock buttons. I have only acquired two or three chips through the Jetglo finish to the wood beneath, although quite a few very small scars over the years that are hardly noticeable from a distance. The finish will last many years of hard playing. Finish cracking has never been a problem, and after a dozen years there are none. I play three other basses: a Spector neck-thru 4-string, a Music Man Sting Ray bolt-on 4-string, and an imported Spector ReBop bolt-on 4-string. The 4004L is as durable as any of them, and it took the place of my old Fender P-bass with an S-curved neck, among its other problems. Sorry, but I fail to see the cult worship of the P-bass. Leo certainly surpassed it with the Sting Ray replacement he designed. Status Graphite basses and their kind set the standard for durability. No wood bass can match a graphite bass for durability and stability under all conditions, and neck-thru or bolt-on has nothing to do with it if done correctly. Wood is reliable enough for me, and I like woody character in my sound and will tolerate a higher action to counteract wood's weekly changing action under changing climate conditions. I don't sweat a small change in action height unless it gets to be a real problem, and the thick varnish coat on most Rickenbackers hold humidity caused action changes to a minimum. If you crave extremely low action with stability in use, get a graphite neck and be prepared to lose some "character" for that rock solid stability. The best compromise is a Sting Ray with that super quick truss rod adjustment feature. The Rickenbacker neck is a bit rubbery in comparison to my other basses, but I bend it around on purpose for tonal effect and that's part of its character. Not really a good or bad thing, just different and sometimes useful, sometimes not. The point is you can count on the 4004L NOT to break down on you, and it never has for me. There's hardly anything to break as it's a simple bass, and easily fixed as long as you don't snap the neck. I have only ever seen one Rickenbacker neck warped beyond repair. It would be a good idea to keep ANY bass with a thin neck like the 4004 in constant proper adjustment as far as the truss rods go. Maple necks can almost always be straightened by a good luthier, and that's one of maple's positive features, but it can get expensive.
Customer Support
:8
I ALWAYS go through skilled local luthiers that I trust, or handle the job myself. A problem would have to be hugely major to send it back to a manufacturer. RIC sells spare parts for all their current instruments at fair prices, and that's what's important. In reality, there are few major problems under warranty with Rickenbackers. Nothing like Fender and Gibson owners see. The problem is that you HAVE to send it all the way back to RIC for warranty work. Buy your Rick used if you can and handle the warranty work yourself if needed with the money you saved. Since I'll probably never send an instrument back to RIC, their repair policy has no meaning to me. I just want parts for used Ricks, and they sell them. Good enough for me.
Overall Rating
:8
If you run across a Rickenbacker 4004 bass, try to play it as they are in my opinion the best bass that RIC builds. They have their own unique character and you might like it. Forget the 4001/4003 sound that Squire, McCartney and others got with their Rick basses. They look and sound like no other bass. There are no good copies currently being built, and RIC zealously defends their designs in the marketplace. Not the most versatile bass, but a killer basic sound and about as reliable as wood basses come. Most people comment quite favorably on the sound, the Jetglo color with contrasting chrome hardware and classic body style is rather regal in comparison to most basses, and it's incredibly reliable in the passive factory configuration. My active configuration requires a battery change after several hundred hours of playing. It's hard to find a lighter weight in a solid body maple bass. It lacks extreme tonal versatility and the neck, though good, could be better and more stable. Every bass player needs at least one bass that has strong character, and the 4004L is mine. I mainly play rock and hard country in a local band that does mainly weekend club dates. The 4004L fits more into the hard country end of things, and it lays down a very solid bottom end that any dance oriented music would benefit from while maintaining good note clarity for those who are mainly listening. It always gets a thumbs up from the other players when it comes out of the case. I play through a bass preamp straight into the PA or I mike my small home practice amp (a high quality customized rig) into the PA. I don't lug a big separate bass amp around, and todays high end PA systems blow away most great bass amps of the past.
Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: US $839
Submitted 06/11/2004
at 12:01am
by Walter Ego
Features
:8
Double humbuckers, selector switch, volume, tone, Schaller tuners, and a better bridge than the other Rickenbacker basses.
Sound
:8
Ok, if you like a fat and clear tone with passive pickups and tone control, this rates a 10. If you prefer active tone control and a preamp for lots of tone versatility, it rates a 6. This is not your daddy's 4001. What it does, it does very well. Just don't expect it to be a tonal chameleon. The passive pickups are very quiet, very powerful, but lacking in high end. Like most basses with unreinforced flatsawn necks, there are dead notes around the 10th fret of the D string and the 5th fret of the G string. Just like an old P-bass or J-bass.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:6
If you like a thin neck, but still relatively wide, this may be your neck. The problem with Rickenbackers is that they might have a fabulous action when new, but the neck begins to spring forward above the heel in some samples after a few years. This is because of the thin neck in that area. The neck needs to be tapered more in width and thickness to keep this from happening and to give a smooth flex to the neck for forming the proper relief for lowest possible action. If you luck out and get very hard and stable maple, this will not happen. Moral: always buy a Rickenbacker bass after it is at least 5 years old to confirm that the neck is probably going to be stable. Also, I thought that the neck was 3-piece when I bought it, but it was confirmed that 4004 basses have flatsawn necks. Thus you have more pronounced flat notes and greater tendency to warp over time. This is not a neck for heavy strings. The Ricks with good necks have good action, but mine has sprung forward and can't be corrected with the truss rod. I would give it a 9 if it weren't for that. The problem is correctable by knowledgeable luthiers, but it can reoccur over a period of years again, especially if its exposed to a lot of heat. A Jetglo finish heats up fast in the sun, so not a good bass for outdoor gigs. Actually, the bass is very beautiful, and the varnish finish lasts a long time and doesn't hurt the sound like other finishes commonly used.
Reliability/Durability
:8
Extremely durable, except for that problem neck if you happen to get a weak neck. It's a neck-thru design, and the neck can't be replaced. Take a lesson from me and buy it used and check it closely. If you get a new one, sell it quickly if you notice shifting that can't be truss rod corrected.
Customer Support
:5
They would not help me with my neck. Only buy used Rickenbackers, and get a good price to counter any future neck work. Rickenbacker is good about supplying parts from what I have heard. Since you SHOULD be buying used, the warranty is a nonissue.
Overall Rating
:7
I like this bass, except for the rubbery neck and lack of tonal versatility. I can get the neck fixed, but it's a pain and expense. I should have tried to send it back and get a refund, but it looks cool and nobody else around here has one like it. My main bass has a 3-piece neck, graphite reinforcement, no dead spots, passive pickups, better ergonomics, and an active Aguilar preamp. The Spector is just a better bass, and also better than a Warwick Streamer in my opinion. I only deducted 1 point for the neck since it is fixable, but otherwise it would get an 8 because of the limited tonal range in spite of the excellent basic tone. If you get a copy with a better neck than I did, and are satisfied with a deep clear tone with limited tonal adjustment, then it could rate a 9 or 10 for you. But don't expect action as low as the very best necks like Spector. I may trade mine for another Spector.
Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: US $900 used
Submitted 01/21/2004
at 08:38am
by jeff
Email: jwr at 3dentourage<dot>com
Features
:10
1993 4004L Jetglo (black) finish. 2 hot humbucking Rickenbacker pickups with passive electronics. It comes stock with a toggle / master volume / tone controls. I bought mine used and the electronics had been changed to toggle / volume / volume ... no tone. So Rewired it to Volume / Volume / tone ... like a jazz bass. This bass is excellent an American made quality instrument. Maple fretboard and maple body. The maple fretboard adds brightness and it looks good as a contrast to the black finish. It started out its life as a four string ... I converted it to a 5 string ... see this web site for pics ... http://www.3dentourage.com/4004L5.htm ...
Sound
:10
Most ric's come with single coil pickups. The Ric Humbuckers are sort of p-bass sounding ... dual rail in series I think ... they don't deliver as much of the high end sparkle, or the very low low end rumble ... I play through various ampeg amps with 10's 15's and 18 inch speakers. I use a line 6 pod and or a sans amp as a tone shaper going into the amp. And YES you can get that Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, aggressive treble bite tone out of this bass. You have to know how to set the amp and preamp controls. It is a good studio bas and a good gigging bass. It sounds really good when you turn it up and let it wail and scream and thunder.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:10
Rics always look and feel so nice. It is in very good shape for a ten year old bass. Dual truss rod design makes for nice neck adjustments. The only negative is that maple fret boards are prone to shrinkage, and then the frets sometimes protrude slightly ... this is an easy repair ... the newer models use bubinga fretboard wood insted of maple.
Reliability/Durability
:10
Rock solid ... it looks cool on stage and feels nice strapped on ... I added strap lock ... the new models come with strap locks installed.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
I bought it used ...
Overall Rating
:10
A nice modern Rickenbacker. I like it very much. Especially after my modifications. I am thinking of putting in a 3 way toggle switch that goes single coil / series humbucker / parallel humbucker. And I prefer the vol/vol/tone setup so I can blend pickups. I usually run the bridge pickup at 10, the neck pickup at 6, and the tone at 10.
Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: US $800 used
Submitted 10/26/2003
at 09:34pm
by Karn Evil 9's master
Features
:10
Rickenbacker took their 4001/4003 60's and 70's relic basses and stripped off all the BS parts like pickup covers, worthless bindings, nerdy plastic pickguard, sharkfin inlays, unnecessary tone and volume controls, string dampers, and humming single coil pickups. Then they hotrodded it by adding the world's finest passive humbucking bass pickups and gave it a beautifully sinister Jetglo finish. After getting rid of the costly unnecessary parts and streamlining the production, they did the right American thing and raised the price. RIC, you're my kind of capitalist pig outfit. Yeah baby, less is more, so why not charge for it?
Sound
:10
Only three controls: Tone control, Volume control, and KILL switch. Yeah, that pickup selector is a KILL switch because as long as the neck pickup is selected in 2 of the 3 positions, this bass has bottom end that KILLS. That neck pickup is jammed clean up against the neck, and it mainly picks up fundamentals of the notes being played. It is the hottest passive pickup I have ever used, and it puts out fundamentals with no rolloff whatsoever right down to the open E. The bridge pickup is identical and placed further from the bridge than just about any other bridge pickup on any other bass I know of. This ain't a 4001 with wirey bridge pickup treble overtones. This bass has far less treble than previous Rickenbacker basses, and a bottom end that crushes and destroys. It still has plenty of punch and sounds not the least bit muddy even with the tone turned to max bass. LOW END DEFINITION is how I describe the sound, because it hits like a hammer. I never use a bass amp if the house PA system is of high quality with tight bottom end below 40 Hz. This is a modern bass without that midrange hump to the output that most vintage basses had, like a P-bass, J-bass, or Sting Ray. If the PA system needs some equalization, I run through a SansAmp RBI but keep it rather clean. This is the bass equivalent of the Hammer of Thor. I get my distortion by clipping the amp at full volume. Install tweeter protectors in your speakers if you see me coming. It can play a lot of styles correctly, but I really love it the most for Heavy Metal and Hard Rock. Never thought I would say that about any Rickenbacker.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:10
I keep the action a bit high because I hammer the strings a lot. No, its not the easiest playing, just the best sounding bass for my style. What were they smoking back in the 60's when the 4000 series headstock was designed? Cresting wave design my ass, that headstock is psychedelic art, and its California origin makes it authentic. Ever notice how lopsidedly unsymmetrical the 4000 series bodies look? Stripped of all the tailfin era bullshit that RIC hung on the 4001 and 4003, the beautifully sinister 4000 series body sculpture and Jetglo finish create pure evil majesty. I named my baby "Karn Evil 9". It's lovely. It's lascivious. It's simple. It's sensuous. The bass tone is bottomless, but it still has clarity and punch. And the bass is very comfortable on a strap. It's too good a sound for all but a few bass amps. The amp setup MUST be capable of playing clean, loud, and low or you never hear all that the humbuckers can produce. The sound shakes the room like an earthquake. It's the full fundamental that most other basses do not reproduce, as they were designed in the days when bass amps could not reproduce 41Hz as loud as the overtones of 82 Hz and higher. So the lowest fundamentals were ignored, and the second and third harmonics were boosted to give illusion of deep bass. It might have tricked the brain, but not the body. With the 4004L, you can feel the lowest notes even more than you can hear them, as long as your amp is up to the task. Forget old vintage bass amps and second rate PA cabinets. They were designed for efficiency over bandwidth. Use modern speaker cabs designed for low bandwidth (Acme Low B2, and equivalent) and lots of power. I got off subject here, but I can't stop thinking about that addictive tone. The sensuous black body matches the tone. Deep, dark, and dangerous. Like a growling black jaguar cat.
Reliability/Durability
:10
Solid maple and machined hardware. It's a tank, and ready for your next journey to Valhalla. Your speakers may not fare so well.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
I bought it in mint used condition and nothing has ever broken.
Overall Rating
:10
I stumbled across it, and it was like a meeting that was arranged by destiny. I have played for over 20 years, classic rock to heavy metal. This bass can even make country music sound good. When I hooked it up to a wide bandwidth reproduction system, I realized the flawed nature of most other basses. Previously, I thought only certain active basses could get the sound I wanted, but this bass gets the deep bottom I crave while maintaining the definition and clarity of the finest passive pickups. For me, it is the ultimate bass tone generator. Nothing else at the same price or lower compares. It is not for everybody, like P-brains that think a P-bass is the ultimate bass ever created.
Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: US $900 used
Submitted 06/23/2003
at 05:46pm
by Bass Instincts
Features
:7
Not really a fancy bass, but a serious instrument trimmed down to the essentials. One tone control, one volume control, two pickups and a switch to choose between them.
Great hardware, great tone, and beautiful to look at as well.
Just because the 4004L doesn't have a lot of bells and whistles doesn't mean that it's missing anything. It has everything I need, and I love its sculpted Spartan beauty. Definitely a member of the "less is more" school of thinking.
Sound
:9
I was playing it through my new RBI through a clean sound system and really grooving on the tone, when I decided to look at the settings on the RBI. To my surprise, the RBI emulated output was inactive. I was listening to the bass itself through a clean amplification system. Many basses would fall on their faces under such conditions, as they are so unlinear in their outputs that they need major corrections to get a good tone. I activated the emulated output on the RBI and got great sounds at every setting listed in the owner's manual. With the right settings on the RBI, or the right kind of amp for your kind of music, the 4004L can play any kind of music you would care to play. This bass is more versatile than the other RIC basses. I prefer it to any Fender bass I have ever played. Haven't played an active Fender bass, but these pickups are hot enough as they are, especially with an RBI or Bass Driver DI by SansAmp which basically makes any passive bass an active bass. The only drawback I have found in the sound is a few notes sound a bit dead compared to all the others. If all the other notes didn't ring for so long, you might never notice it. I use roundwound strings, so the effect may be lessened with flatwounds since they sound deader to begin with. Just haven't tried them so I can't say.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:9
Plays better than the earlier RIC basses. Fairly light at only 8 pounds. This one will do any style of music if you set it up right. The workmanship and finish are very good. Feels very comfortable and plays fast and easy. If I could only have had this bass when I was a teenager! It would have been a real babe magnet for me.
Reliability/Durability
:9
The neck is a bit on the thin side, so I have to keep an eye on the neck and make truss rod adjustments a bit more often than I would like. Other than that, it has no ownership issues. The conversion varnish finish seems as tough as nails and has maintained a beautiful apearance for the past 5 years. The frets seem very resistant to wear from nickel roundwound strings. I converted my strap lugs to locking Schallers some time ago, but the originals gave no problems.
Customer Support
:5
RIC customer support isn't very good unless you have major warranty issues to be resolved. For small stuff it's not worth shipping to California and back. So for the small stuff, you are essentially on your own. Other people have had wildly varying experiences with RIC.
Overall Rating
:9
These basses are really hard to find, but worth hunting down. I have been playing since 1976, and this is the best bass I have found for my purposes, and also the most expensive. I have never spent over $1000 for a bass or amp, and never will, so I cannot compare to the most expensive basses out there. There are probably better basses to be had, but they probably don't sell for under $1000 (used mint/excellent condition) unless you run across a desperate seller or it is a heavily used instrument needing some work done on it. Some of the cheaper imports may look as nice at first, but I doubt the finish and hardware lasts as long. The imports always seem to have inferior pickups. The RIC humbuckers are strong and quiet with lots of tonal character that can be exploited to get a really wide range of tones. I guess that is my favorite feature of all. You just can't get the same tone this bass has from any other bass, and that includes the single coil RIC basses. I can't see myself ever selling this bass. Even if I find one that feels as nice or better, it will probably not have that addictive tone that seems to grow on me. Teamed up with a pair of SansAmp RBI's and a 600W Crown stereo power amp playing through my collection of various speaker cabinets, I can get just about any tone I want out of this bass. Everybody that tries it ends up liking it. Maybe not their favorite, but they really like it.
Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: N/A used
Submitted 04/07/2003
at 09:04pm
by Ducky
Features
:8
See the Rickenbacker website.
My favorite feature is that it looks as good as it sounds, or sounds as good as it looks. Take your pick. It has minimalist control features, but they do the job without fuss and confusion.
Sound
:10
Does not have the ringing treble sound of old 4001 or 4003 Rickenbackers, but has more of a modern slant to the sound. Lots of bottom end. There is no separate treble and bass control, so you will need an amp that has those. I put the tone and volume controls in the middle most of the time and use my amp controls to set the treble, midrange, and bass along with average volume level. Then I use the tone control on the bass, along with the pickup selector switch and volume control, to vary the sound. There's rarely a need to mess with the amp controls once you find that "middle ground". Simple and effective, so you get to play without dinking with controls a lot. Notice that in later versions you will get the pickups set closer to the bridge. My early version has the neck pickup set right against the butt of the fretboard. It has a fatter bottom than Delta Burke. I use the bridge pickup the most (shows my P-Bass apprenticeship), then the bridge and neck combined, and the neck pickup alone only when I just want a throbbing carpet of sound. You P-Bass fans will use the bridge pickup almost exclusively, while you J-Bass fans will gain some major bottom, without sounding muddy. The Rickenbacker humbuckers are cleaner sounding than what you find on most other humbuckered basses. They just don't ring as much as the old 4001 or 4003 basses. Rickenbacker still managed to give this bass a distinctive sound. You will not mistake it for a Fender bass. Even if you prefer a Fender, adding this bass will expand your arsenal of tone. I use the standard gauge Rickenbacker roundwound strings. My music interests would fit under the broad category of classic rock.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:9
This is a player's bass. Better for popping and slapping than the older 4001 and 4003 Rick basses. It actually weighs only 8 pounds, due to the thin hardwood body. The body and neck shapes are very comfortable. Plenty of room on the fretboard. The balance is perfect. The bridge setup is one of the best in the business. Heavy machined parts are used in the stop tailpiece assembly. There is a wide range of adjustment. Parts are top notch. The Schaller tuners hold a tune all week. Pickups are top notch as well. You don't have to change a thing regarding hardware, which helps to justify the rather steep price for so simple a bass. It simply looks stunning, the black Jetglo finish is flawless and mirror smooth. The light maple fretboard goes good with the black (newer basses have darker wood in the fretboard). I had to play with the action to get it right for me, but that is expected.
Reliability/Durability
:9
This bass will probably outlast you, with only the selector switch and control pots being the parts that would ever give trouble in the future, and those are cheap to replace.
My only concern is the strap buttons that might let your strap slip off. I converted it to locking Schaller type. If playing without a backup, this is the first bass I would grab.
Customer Support
:5
All warranty work is handled at the factory, so little things are not worth getting fixed and will necessitate local repair. Rickenbacker is noted for being somewhat strange to deal with. They will fix any major problem under warranty, but are basically useless outside of warranty, except for spare part availability. Their guitars rarely break in a big way, however.
Overall Rating
:9
This "Black Beauty" is as good an all rounder as any bass that I have ever played. I used to be a Fender fan (still am), but I seem to have been converted to the Rickenbacker camp. I don't like carrying or owning a lot of different basses or guitars, so this bass fills the bill better than anything. The hardest thing about these bass guitars is just finding one. They are much more rare than the 4001 and 4003 basses. I lucked out and got a clean used one, but for most people it is order one and wait for several months. People tend to hold on to them, so they are hard to find in the used market as well, and bring a good price just like other used Rickenbackers. Still, it's in another league compared to cheap imports, and much more reasonably priced than a full custom rig. I wish RIC would build more of these and lower the price the way they did their 650 series guitars. Now THERE'S a bargain!
This bass is a 9 for the discount price you can get a new one for from an internet discount dealer (if you don't mind waiting for delivery), compared to a custom shop Fender (the Mexican Fenders do not compare in finish, of course). As a used bass, the value would be about an 8 as Rickenbackers are rare, especially this model, and few people are turning loose of them. No wonder, they not only sound good, but look fabulous in the flesh.
Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: US $790 used
Submitted 02/05/2003
at 11:32am
by Phil
Features
:9
Purchased in slightly used condition. Made in June 1993. Body, neck, and fretboard made of maple and finished in Jetglo (shiny black) color. The unbound maple fretboard is clearcoat natural finished with nine black dot markers and 20 frets. Dual truss rods and V-cut nut. Two humbucking pickups that adjust from the top. Single volume and tone controls shared by both pickups. Mono signal output. Pickup selector switch selects neck, neck & bridge, bridge from top to bottom positions. Plastic cover on back allows easy access to pots and switch. Schaller M4 sealed bass tuners. Regular nonlocking strap lugs. Machined and chromed tailpiece featuring fully adjustable bridge with individual string saddle adjustment in all three axes. This bass is lightweight at only 8 pounds (3.6 kg) and has a 33 1/4" (84.5 cm) scale length. The unbound neck-thru solid body is heavily contoured and the headstock shape is the same as the earlier 4000 series basses. Current models are made with a bubinga fingerboard and Schaller locking strap lugs. Also, the pickups are also positioned about an inch closer to the bridge than on my bass.
Sound
:10
The 4004 naturally has a wider range of tones than the 1975 Fender P-Bass I previously owned because of its dual pickups. It does sound different than earlier model Rickenbackers, but still has some of that trademark treble punch. I like the sound better than other humbucking basses (mainly Gibson) that I have heard. I think it will suit a wider range of styles than earler Rickenbacker basses. Some people report that the earlier model Ricks are not good for popping and slapping, but the 4004L works just fine in that regard. It may not be the best sound for everybody, but I can find nothing to not like about it. This is a thoroughly modern bass except for the lack of active electronics. I see no need for it because the pickups have plenty of output and are very quiet. Between the bass controls and amp controls, you can get just about any sound you could reasonably expect. I am mainly into classic rock, so take that into account. Also, I am using a small Marshall AVT50 combo amp that I converted into a bass amp by changing out the speaker. I only play at home these days, so it is more than loud enough.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:7
The Jetglo finish is like a black mirror. It's a classy looking bass. This bass had obviously never been used much. Almost all the screws and nuts were loose. It came from high and dry Denver, so the wood was obviously shrunk back. Intonation was not properly set and the string saddles were lowered all the way down and the strings were not evenly spaced apart. One truss rod nut was completely loose, and the other was very tight. The neck had a lot of relief when I got it unpacked and tuned to pitch. Especially on the E-string side. I had to lay the neck on a couple of books and then stand on the body and neck while tightening the truss rods to remove the excess curvature in the neck near the heel. Now the neck is almost arrow straight from the 10th fret to the nut while most of the neck relief occurs between the 10th and 20th frets. The action is thus a little higher than it would be if the curvature in the neck was centered around the 9th fret like most basses. The E-string side has about twice as much relief as the G-string side. Which is how you should want it to reduce E-string buzz. It plays OK without excess buzzing, but I can easily induce or stop fret buzzing at will by pulling and pushing the neck. The frets were very smooth and there are no chronically buzzing frets. Tuners hold a tune well. I cannot get the super low action that I have seen on other Ricks, but that is not what I got it for. My style tends to require higher action than most bassists prefer in order to reduce excess fret buzz. I do not worship at the altar of low action, as it puts some limits on what you can do. I also had to adjust the bridge pickup. It was too loud on the G-string side, and it looked as if the previous owner had set it too close, perhaps because of his amp. The neck pickup was OK. So the finish is excellent, but the action sucked as I received it. The bass is made from top quality components and the workmanship looks quite good. I had to file down the fret ends, but that is a common problem with most unbound necks after the fretboard seasons and shrinks back further. It wasn't serious, just noticeable, and generally never gives any more problems after the first refiling. It's now as smooth as a bound neck, and I don't have to worry about the bindings coming unglued. The lousy setup was almost certainly not Rickenbacker's fault. Where I live is a lot more humid and hotter than Denver, so the neck may start to move around a bit until it reaches a state of equilibrium. I had my P-Bass in Alaska, and it developed the same neck problem this one had when I bought it. I just learned to live with it. Detune when carrying your bass around in cold weather!!!
Reliability/Durability
:9
The only reservation I have are the nonlocking strap lugs. I am going to replace them with Schaller locking strap lugs. Other than that, carry an extra set of strings and also a spare volume/tone pot and selector switch if you take it on tour.
Rickenbacker has changed to locking Schaller strap lugs on current production basses.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Never dealt directly with Rickenbacker.
Overall Rating
:9
This is the perfect bass for me. It is much lighter and more comfortable to play than my solid maple 1975 P-Bass that I once owned. That thing was a boat anchor, the heaviest P-Bass that anybody I ever handed it to had ever held. But it did sound very good and had great sustain. The 4004L sounds even better and has the same great sustain, maybe even better sustain. It seems that everybody likes this bass. The size and dimensions of the neck are perfect for me, but since I am having some issues with the neck relief, I am going to deduct a point. Otherwise, I couldn't imagine a significantly better bass for me even if I had one custom made. I see that Paul McCartney now owns a 4004 Cheyenne, so these 4004 basses must really be good in a lot of other people's opinion as well. Just be careful with the neck of any bass if you live in a very cold climate with wide temperature extremes.
Product: Rickenbacker 4004 Laredo Price Paid: 6800 (FF) used
Submitted 02/09/2001
at 09:37am
by Xavier Chambon
Email: Xchambon<at>wanadoo dot fr
Features
:9
Fabrication US, manche 20 frettes conducteur avec touche erable vernis et -toujours- tige de reglage du manche double (extra) accastillage chrome, mecaniques Schaller M4 (le top!), deux doubles -passif of course- avec sortie mono
Livre en etui du plus bel effet
La finition est relativement simple (en rapport de la 4003 et derivees) mais exemplaire
Dommage qu'il n'y ait qu'une commande de volume et de tonalite.
Switch 3 positions
Sound
:10
Basse tous styles (non pejoratif)
Je l'utilise avec un preamp digitech BP8 ou en console avec une boite de direct.
Le son est phenomenal !
Quel dynamique.
Les micros sont vraiment excellents.
Inseree dans une formation batterie-guitare, elle sonne vraiment bien.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:10
Tres gros agrement de jeu. le manche est un modele du genre.
Rapide (merci, l'erable), intonation tres precise.
Toucher particulier.
l'action de mon exemplaire est reglee tres basse.
Ideal pour ma technique limitee mais un peu moins pour les slappeurs fou-furieux.
Electronique tres simpliste mais surtout efficace et fiable
Reliability/Durability
:10
Avec un minimum de soin, c'est une basse concue pour de longues annees.
Pauvre esthetiquement. Meconnue, du moins en France, et dans l'ombre de la 4003, elle merite vraiment le detour!
De plus, en France, son tarif est de 10000F contre 13000F pour la 4003
Le tarifs americains est de $1790 contre $1590 pour la 4003
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Le site Ric est tres accessible mais il manque quelques infos concernant la 4004.
Le magasin maison est plutot ebauche et j'attends avec impatience son elaboration pour l'europe (achat de pieces detachees, voire d'instruments...)
On ne peut pas recevoir non plus de docs en france. C'est dommage
Overall Rating
:10
Ca fait 8 huit ans que je joue de la basse :
J'ai commence avec une epiphone accubass, modele type jazz bass honnete mais avec un micro aigu catastrophique. Ensuite, j'ai eu une aria electro-acoustique febdlx, tres belle, aux sonorites tres agreables mais le manche n'etait pas assez rapide.
Donc, la 4004L est, forcement (?), la plus belle.
J'ai hesite avec une Guild Starfire Bass, car elle est vraiment tres belle, mais j'ai opte pour l'efficacite.