Celestion G12T-75

It's a speaker, what can I say?

But it is very limited.

The 75s are very muddy and lack mids. They are rather dead sounding and are anything but bright or smooth. If low end and scooped mids makes you tick, than you are going to love these speakers. But if you want a smooth full tone, than you are going to hate them.

I play a lot of blues, rock and metal, and these don't cut it for any of the styles that I play. I am saving to get Classic Leads, or possibly vintage 30s installed in my angeled cab (the one I use the most!).

At 75 watts a speaker, they dont blow often, they are reliable for sure!

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Well made speakers, just not my sound. These speakers would be a dream for people who play "numetal."

12" Woofer/Guitar-Speaker




What? Did you think I was gonna say:
"Loaded with all kinds of features, a zipper-pouch for carrying picks, a velcro-release-pad for internal-adjustents with removable diaphragm, a steel reinforced magnet with hubcap-locking-mechanism, etc"??????????

Okay:
1.)Spade-style Binding-posts for quick-disconnect for speaker-wire,
with double +/- terminals.
2.)12inch paper-cone woofer-diaphragm with nylon-mesh inner cup
3.)Heavey magnet(I don't know what kind of Metal)
4.)Foam insulated pads for easy speaker-wood-screws......

Dry & not so crunchy.....Very DRY.....Muddy depending on the tone I get from certain setups:
1.)Vintage Fuzz Pedal 1969(Buzz-Saw-Harminic Wave-Shape) I feel like
saying that classic-line "Dude, where's my fuzz?" when I've used
other speakers they give me that SWEEKY-FUZZ from this pedal.... I
will not turn my treble up & get another layer of distorion of treble
frequencies to get the clarity heard (YUK!)

2.)Early 70's Fuzz (Basic Treble-Crunch Indent-Wave) It's okay, but
still very Garage-Punk-DRYNESS! This sounds much better on other
speakers, it's my BEST FUZZ!

3.)TUBE-PREAMP Sharp/Clear (YES SIR) this preamp has the clearest
"MEGADETH Countdown TO Extinction"(tonality) & it sounds fine with
this Speaker, but still lacking on some CRUNCH-TREBLE, but luckly
my TUBE-PREAMP has enough, but still I'd like to have more treble
in my speaker & less coming from my signal-chain!!!!, that way I
don't overload on treble-layers as usual!

4.)Late-60's FUZZ-PEDAL (Germanium round-wave-clip) This sounds almost
perfect, & it regfulates all the mid-frequencies...But allot less
bite as other speakers I use!!!!!

Compare to:
1.)"CELESTION G10-20"(10"paper-cone/15-Ohm) This has the MOST-CRUNCH
ever, but it lacks on 2-3KHz, the crunch is a narrow 4KHz.

2.)"RADIO-SHACK" 1516 (15" w/ disconnected Tweeter) This has allot
of CRUNCH(3KHz) but not anything 4KHz+ but some faint hi-presence.

3.)"PRO SERIES"(brand) (8" car-speaker/ paper-cone) This has allot of
crunch too, but it sounds too hi-end, a smooth 4KHz+

4.)"CELESTION Vintage-30" very "Hi-Fi" if you EQ your tone to sound
like SLASH! ...This has enough Treble BITE of a crunch, it's known
for an UPPER-MID, but I don't see that, nor do I hear that!

*I could list much more Speakers that I've tried, but these are the
best ones that stood-out-of-the-crowd..........

*I could list all the MICROPHONES, AMPLIFIERS, ROOMS, CABINETS, &
go on & on about the truth, but let's keep-it-simple!!!!

***All my results have been carefully recorded using a SPECTRUM-ANALYSER*** (6-year-test LAB)
(Please do EMail me if you do not understand)

Just don't excede it's maximum-power handling, look for the RMS first!

"Dr Decibel" will EMail you back, but he has to puch "CELESTION" products, as far as the "TONE-SELECTOR" on the website goes, try it!!!
But too-bad they don't repeat each riff as much with diffent setup combonations!!!!!!!

I can't imagine this Speaker being anything else than a STOCK-SPEAKER for all the musicians who are picky seem to swap this one out, unless they are into simple tones that DON'T-CUT-THROUGH-THE-MIX, unless they are using some GLORIFIED-PREAMP(like mine!) & don't change their sound GENRE throughout the performance!!!!!!!

If you want versatility, hmmmmmmmmmm, let's just say:
use the:[CELESTION VINTAGE 30] instead!
1.)"Diamond Darrel"(aka:"Dimebag") of "PANTERA" used these to get his
seering sharp tones when he lived! I think he caught on back then,
& stopped using whatever the Cabinets came with?

2.)"Slash" of "ROSE 'N GUNSES" used the VINATGE-30 throughout his
entire-carreer with "GNR"

3.)"Dave Mustaine" "The American Leprechaun Metal Dude" switched
to the VINTAGE 30, probably after "Countdown"?

This list has to be truncated or else I'll go on & on:
So use this "G12-T75" for a MUDDY background-layer, but when you
want a well-balanced-CLEAR-CRUNCH, use the VINTAGE-30

I just wanted to add my two cents to the discussion here. I bought a 1936 cabinet last year and at first loved the sound of the G12T-75s, but I was comparing them to the old Fane that was in my Laney combo. After a few gigs, I thought they sounded a bit shrill, so I replaced them with Vintage 30s.

Here's the deal about Vintage 30s: They are nothing but midrange. You're going to love them or hate them. For Blues or lead playing or even standard chords, the Vintage 30 is great. For Drop D or power chords, not so much. The other thing, to my ears anyway, is the Vintage 30 gets more midrange-y as you crank them up . . . not crunchy. On the other hand, the G12T-75 seems to get better when you crank it up. So, for right now, I stuck one of the G12T-75s back in the 1936 to mitigate the Vintage 30's honk that was really starting to irritate me. The results are pleasing, although I might go the extra step and switch the G12T-75 with a Greenback, as I've heard others have done with great success. I have a JCM 800 head that has no excuse for sounding average.

Bulletproof

Beats me.

Very dependent on the application (like all speakers, I guess).

12" Woofer(I don't care if you think it should be called a "FULL-RANGE")
8/16Ohms of Impedance etc... (then it NEEDS A TWEETER!)

Seeing how this CONE is 12 inches wide, be careful where you point your Microphone or ears, you might hear something different each time, especially with "SHURE SM57s" & "SENNHEISER MP-420s" to name a few...

I use this with everything you can name, (I own/owned it all!)$$
I HAVE 20-20 hearing as good as any Advanced Italian Musician:

1.)Not good for SHRED, DEATH, HEAVEY, NU, or any METAL, unless you are using a good EQ(Equalizer) pedal/rackmount or stock-amp-tone-setting.
2.)Not good for GRUNGE or PUNK, unless if using an EQ again.
3.)Not really good for anything except DRY, MUDDY, CARD-BOARD-BOX-SOUNDS, FADED BACKGROUND TONALITY.(like dubbing bad Cassette-Tapes over & over again till it looses enough fidelity)
4.)Maybe good for VINTAGE sounds if you know how to counter-balance the problem areas with the right DISTORTIONS etc.
5.)If you have allot of good "CRUNCHY AMPS" whether TUBE or not, you may not notice anything bad about this "G12-T75" woofer-speaker. Unfortunately, not all tone can sound good on every setup, seeing how each filter-circuit-design in every AMP, PEDAL, RACK, GUITAR etc isn't the same or always predictable, & sometimes in each mass produced model as well.
6.)Blues & even Jazz, I use this for those styles to get my tone, just not for the HEAVEY stuff anymore! It's not the best "BLUES/JAZZ" or rather "JAZZ/BLUES" Speaker, really!(Okay, quote "SPINAL TAP")

It really depends exactly on what you are doing, I can actually get a good sound, but if you wanna be fake about it, use an additional EQ. The BREAK-UP, I hardly notice it, I have many RARE-SPEAKERS that give quite a clearer CRUNCH without the boost of any TREBAL in any amplitude gain at all, meaning.....

LESSION::
"CRUNCH" means a very noticeable differentiation between each voltage-spike riding inbetween each frequency shelf, causing a very noticeable separation of wavelength rated at about 50 to 60 cycles per second (50/60Hz) depending on what power-source the guitar-distortion effect is calibrated from by AC-power-supply or DC-design, example: UK/US!(Alternating current, sound is also A.C., it's a Frquency, right?)

IN ENGLISH: "CRUNCH" Having nothing to do with "BIG BASS" or "THICK TREBAL" but rather a "STUDDERING" almost "VIBRATO" tonality in tonal-wise pronunciation, seeing how it doesn't matter exactly how much frequency volume & shape is present, but rather how it is modulated into resination (I used both a SPECTRUM ANALIZER & OSCILLOSCOPE)

**Think about how you PRONOUNCE or say a word, you can almost change the meaning & style as well!

****Think about it, eat some POPCORN, especially the CARMEL-COATED kind, chew it violently as if you are very hungry, listen carefully to the particular "CRUNCH" and SEPARATION inbetween each chomping-action, it's usually defined with enough TREBAL outlining each bite! You should try this with a variety of CERIAL too!
WARNING: This experiment must be completed with only good ears, meaning get your hearing tested, your sensitivity results had better be a flat/wide range of 20Hz-20KHz before you even think about judging what I typed!!!!

"BREAK-UP" could mean "how much CRUNCH" but when guitarists say "It has early break-up" could mean it's more "SOFT" while the gap between each voltage-spike is shorter, being less "STUDDERING" or "CRUNCHY"... "LATE-BREAK-UP" could mean "SLOW-BREAK-UP" having the tendency to be very "CRUNCHY"!!!

*Forgive my spelling-errors, & NO!, I didn't say I am Italian, nor did I say that I'm not, either!(don't assume)

I'm sure it's very strong!

Dr.Decibal is ULSELESS, he is paid to steer you into the CELESTION FALSNESS, he could face a LAW-SUIT if he told me what he really thinks!!! but he wont, so he says to everyone "Try out the speaker-sounds on the Celestion Website" well, They are UNFAIR to every sound style , there should be more CHORD-WORK & REPEAT-PATTERNS played as EXAMPLES for every Speaker etc., but NO, they think that everyone should sound that way!

There were a few repeats for different speakers, probably during same takes before re-connections during the recording-tests?

Scooping mids or midrange frequencies being cut isn't impossible for a "VINTAGE 30" if you try one instead of this "G12T-75", but leave the BIG-BASS for the BASS-GUITARISTS unless you don't have a BASS-PLAYER in your BAND-SITUATION depending on your chosen genre style!

I see that "SLASH" from "GNR-I & II"/"GUNS AND ROSES" states that he uses the "VINTAGE 30" only throughout his ENTIRE-CARREER according to the Celestion website, so if you like his sound, maybe you will like his speaker!

I see that "JOHN CHRIST"(of "DANZIG") "DAVE MUSTAINE"(of "MEGADETH") & "DIAMOND 'DIMEBAG' DARREL"(of PANTERA etc.) have either been using or switched to using the VINTAGE-30s to get their EDGY-METALNESS sounds. Pardon the lack of updated current events: "Rest In Peace BUD!"

12 inch speaker 4-8-16 ohms, if they are made in china, i believe they have a number "50" on the white label stuck on the magnets side. dont pay full made in england prices for chinese ones, they should be priced at 10.00, (i recently saw a box of car audio speakers at the dollar store with heavy magnets for a buck each!)

the best

never blu one in 35 years

see above

Chinese ones will have a number "50" on the white label on the magnet, if they are made in china you should not be duped into paying made in england prices. the going labor rate in china is 35 cents hour!

Almost-new late 2003 Marshall 1936 cab,with Celestion G12-75s. Features all as below.

Tonally,they're average. Admittedly,I'm not into nu-metal,tho;they may be good if you want a scooped-mid distortion.I use the 1936 with a Laney VH100R.The amp is mid-rangey enough as it is,so I expected a mid-lessened speaker to help balance my sound.Apparently,not so.The speakers do not suit the amp,-it doesn't sound dreadful,but they don't flatter the amp,nor bring out its' best.Marhshall stuff is good,no doubts there,huh,but the choice of speaker for the 1936 can be criticised. I simply don't have room in the car nor onstage,in a 6-piece band,for a full 4x12[hence the 1936,coz Laney don't do a suitable 2x12.]The gorgeous Fendery cleans of the VH100R are stifled and deadened by these speakers,and the "darker-than-Marshall-but-more-Soldano-like" tube distortion tones can get nasal and muffled by the G12s in the closed-back cab.Far as pro sounds are concerned,if you're a Sabbath fan,this rig could get the tones you want.[Think "Live Evil" or "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath";I once was a devoted follower of Iommi,and yes,these speakers with this amp can get you very close to his sound on those recordings!]It's not ungiggable tone,for other musics,tho;-and it's unfortunate that the cab with G12s simply isn't designed for the massive midrange emphasis and dark,gnarly voicing of the modern Laney;it's more suited to Marshall's own heads;but I had little choice,other than seeking out a cheap 2x12 that may be worse designed.However,the speakers are serviceable;[i.e.useable]and although I intend to replace the speakers with more suited ones sometimes,I can nevertheless,with further tweaking of the amp's tone knobs,get useable country-sounding cleans and Soldano-like soaring overdriven leads,[quite close to 90s-era Clapton lead,which my lead playing is very much based on]with this amp/cab setup. So,not ideal and could be better for sure,but,with extra effort in my playing,my sounds are professional enough to appeal.So,for the speakers,a 5 for average.With this rig,I was amazed that my Jap Strat,the harshest,razor-toned example of Stratdom you have ever heard,was actually,for once,muffled by this rig,and I have to turn the trebles UP,instead of down,just for a balanced tone!!!!

suppose they are reliable enough.

Celestion do have a site,an email address,and even a cool guy you can Email and ask advice.Can be difficult locating dealers[read someone who will sell to the guy on the street] if you don't know any Celestion dealers anyway. Luckily,I [presently] do.

Well,not bad.Not ideal for all-round vintage tones from clean to rip-it-up rock lead,but a good choice for nu-metal or chugalug-riffing with high gain.I'm gonna look at replacing em with Vintage 30s,BUT the Laney is LOUD already! [apparrently,V30s would be roughly TWICE as loud as these...which [unless I'm ever asked to join a metal band with a drummer like fucking Animal from the Muppets,-and yes,i've been in such bands!] the V30s could be so LOUD I can't use my amp anywhere!! I'll keep lookin for a solution,huh?

They are speakers, so "features" are minimal: 8 or 16 ohms and 75 watts capacity.

I play Very Heavy Metal (old Metallica, Slayer, Pantera, Sepultura, etc) and these are right up my alley. They have relaxed mids, so they work very well for the scooped metal sounds that most of those bands use. The bottom end is tight and the top end is very crisp. I know these are hit and miss, depending on your style/taste, but they are perfect for me. I tried Vintage 30's, Eminence V12's, Celestion 70/80's, Sheffields, etc. and never found anything I liked better than the G12T series (they do a 100 watter also, which is the BOMB). They thrive on high gain/metal tones, so if that's your cup of tea, these are probably what you are looking for. If you want a warm, round clean sound, or blues style early breakup, these are NOT what you want, but if you want speakers that can handle high gain madness, look no further. I am running these in two Marshall JCM900 cabs, pushed by a 5150. Just about any amp that I've run through them sounded great, but keep in mind, I'm a metal head. If you want Stevie Ray Vaughn's tone, look elseware.

Never had any problems with them. If you take care of them, they will take care of you. They are speakers for crying out loud, it's not like there are ton of moving parts.

Celestion has a decent homepage and they do answer questions via Email.

I've been playing guitar for about 5 years after spending about 10 playing bass. They are my favorite speaker for my style/taste, but they aren't for everyone. Use some common sense, if you want a warm, woody tone, get greenbacks. If you want more mids, get Vintage 30's.

I'm not sure what year these were made. They are your standard variety Celestion G12T-75 guitar loudspeakers with frame, coil, magnet and all the typical simple features one would expect on a speaker. I have 2 in an AVATAR 212H open back cab wired at 8 ohms. I have 2 Sunn T50C combo amps. My Celestions were the original speakers in those amps. I took them out to make a 2 X 12 cab.

I think these are very misunderstood speakers. When put in the right applicationm they shine.

I had heard these lots in closed back 4 X 12 and 2 X 12 cabinets. In both settings, I always thought they sounded pretty average with kind of a trebly "clank" sound in the high registers. When I purchased my Sunn T50Cs, I was a litte surprised to hear how good a solo G12T-75 in the semi-open back cabinet that houses the Sunn T50C. My hunch was that the key was to go with a relatively large size, open back 2 X 12.

I kept experimenting. I removed my two G12T-75s from their respective amps and stuck them in a Carvin Legacy 2 X 12 cab. In both open back and closed back they just sounded bland. Then came the test I had been waiting for - the open back AVATAR 2 X 12, which is larger cab than the Carvin. Here is where these speakers shine. I love them. I crank a Sunn T50C into the AVATAR 2 X 12 with the G12T-75 and it sings. The cleans are very usable, though not the amp's nor the speaker's strength. But with the gain one the drive channel cranking, it rocks. Very nice harmonic distortion. At one point, I replace one of the G12T-75s with a Vintage 30. That didn't last long. I also matched up a G12T-75 with an Eminence Legend V12, a Legend GB12 and a Celestion Greenback. Each of the latter three combinations sounded pretty good, but I prefer the balance of the 2 G12T-75s together.

I'm very happy with this speaker. Used primarily to handle an overdriven tube amp, it will shine.

Two years on each of these. No problems to date. Don't really anticipate any.

Never tried it. Never needed it. But I will say that I now purchase my Celestion speakers from Dave at Avatar speakers. He provides fantastic customer service which includes taking time to listen to the customer so he can help you make a good decision. I am a big believer in supporting the customer friendly business.

I've had these speakers about 2 years. I would definitely replace them with identical speakers if lost or stolen.

For comparison, I own or have owned Celestion Blue Alnicos, G12T-75s, Vintage 30s and Greenbacks. I also own or have owned Eminence Legend V12s, M12s, GB12s, 125s and Alnico 122s. It would be fair to say that I did a lot of comparing.

My conclusion: these speakers sound best when: (1) mounted in a larger sized, open back 2 X 12 cab (2) handling nicely overdriven tones. They also provide usable cleans, but don't expect 60s Alnico Jensen type of tones. That is not what these are for. Use them where they shine and you'll be happy.

Bought 2 Marshall 1936 2x12 cabinets in the early 90's. Each came with 2 Celestion G12T-75 speakers. I used these cabs with a Marshall EL34 50/50 power amp run in stereo, with an ADA MP1 as the preamp. I give an 8 here because of power handling capability. The 2x12 cabs with the G75's can handle all the power you can give them

I tried various guitars with the rig described above. Gibson Les Paul w/Dimarzios, Gibson L6-s w/Duncan humbuckers, Fender Strat plus. Most playing was done in my bedroom studio, and I have literally years of playing time on the speakers. I'm sorry Celestion and Marshall, but these speakers suck! I had tried everything in terms of eq, but my rig always sounded harsh, no cry, no scream, no 'dream tone' that I wanted. You may say that this is subjective, I say, not true in this case. I later got a Marshall TSL combo amp that has wonderful tone by itself. I later connected the Marshall 1936 cabs to it and it sounded like crap. Case closed. I swapped the G12T's with celestion vintage 30's in the same 1936 cabinets and I get cry, scream, awsome fricken tone and it pisses me off that I wasted 9 years making those crappy G12T's try to sound good!

Highly reliable. I could pump as much power as I wanted through them, they have held up extremely well. No complaints on the quality front. It's just the sound that sucks.

Never needed 'em

I have been playing for about 30 years and always dreamed of owning a good guitar set up. Unfortunately I was broke most of that time until the early 90's. So I bought the famous Marshall name figuring that you can't go wrong with the top name. That assumption was not entirely correct. When I bought the 2x12 cabs, I had no idea that the types of speakers offered by Marshall has changed numerous times over the years. So, they slipped me these crummy sounding G12T's and at first I didn't know what to make of it. I thought I had a crummy rig, so I tried different pick ups, guitars, etc (all costing a lot of money folks!). Then I got the TSL amp which has one celestion Vintage 30 in it. It sounded real nice, so I decided to try two in one of my 1936 cabs. Well, guess what, the difference was awsome, and I realized that Marshall slipped me a boner instead of what I though I was paying for in those Marshall cabinets. I guess speaker sound is somewhat subjective. If your a metal head, maybe you want that shrill lifeless white noise that comes out of the G12-75T. I mean, you want to deafen people and blow their heads off with power riffs. But if you want some real soulful tone out of your amp, don't let them screw you with these junk speakers. Toneful they ain't! Nuff said?

I had a Marshall 1960A for about a month and was happy to see it go. Harsh. Very. G12T-75's can get way loud, but they're so harsh you won't want to crank them. The sound also sadly lacks dynamics; things sort of get mushed together. They were also very weak in bass response, even when paired with a boomy Carvin Legacy head.

In all fairness, with a Dual Rec or 5150 they're probably fine, if you turn the treble down and kill the brightness. Still, for the same or slightly more money you can do much better than this (see below).

I'm sure they're bulletproof.

I've been playing for 30+ years, mostly hard rock. The G12T-75's are a very loud, tonally average speaker, I feel. For just slightly more money you can move up to Celestion Vintage 30's, which handle nearly as much power and which sound infinitely better: clearer, sweeter, fuller and richer, with far more bottom and none of the G12T-75's trademark shrill, grating harshness. Try them side by side using the same amp; the difference is literally night and day.

In fact, if you go to Celestion's website, here: http://www.celestion.com/pro/pro.htm and compare them, along with the greenbacks, you'll hear how dramatic the difference really is. The difference in person is even more dramatic, though, when running a good amp through them.

Celestion Vintage 30's rock the house down, which is why folks like Bogner and VHT and Orange and Cornford and Dr.Z and Mesa and Marshall use them. I've heard equal praise for Celestion Greenbacks, though I'm not as familiar with them. Not the G12T-75, though. They're okay, but that's all, and certainly not the best bang for the buck.