Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: USD 70
Submitted 10/19/2009
at 11:19am
by Greasy Discharge Dan-O
Features
:No Opinion
Super sensitive at over 101 dB. Loud. Heavy. Handles 150 watts.
Sound Quality
:6
As a stand alone speaker for a 112 cab it's okay but really nothing to write home about. BUT...pair this with an Eminence Wizard and you will soil yourself with glee upon fretting the first chord / note. These were made to pair up with something else.
I have a 70s Fender Bandmaster head connected to an Avatar vintage 212 cab. Clear and crisp with PERFECT tonal balance. These two together make a perfect marriage. Playing a Marshall JCM 800 and a VOX AC 30 CCH it is every bit as beautiful. So..6L6, EL 84 or EL 34..doesn't matter what you have in the way of a head...this speaker combo KILLS!
From squeaky cleans to metal-try it. As a single or in pairs or quads the Swamp Thing isn't really all that good-in my opinion. I have tried it in several 112 combo amps-tube and SS-and found it "adequate" at best. I prefer the Wizard as a stand alone speaker to be honest.
By itself the Swamp Thing delivers a monster bottom, subdued mids and a decent top end. Yes..it is warm but lacks the rock n roll character. I'd rate it a 6 on its own. Combined with the Wizard it's a 10.
Reliability
:No Opinion
Don't shoot BBs through the cone. Don't light it on fire. At 150 watts handling, you ain't gonna hurt it.
Customer Support
:10
Eminence is first class-all the way.
Overall Rating
:6
For rock, country, metal, even squeaky clean oldies like Dion & the Belmonts...the combination of Swamp Thing and Wizard is hard to beat. On its own the Swampy does okay...but it is really made to compliment a sidekick speaker.
Overall I'll give it a 6...with another speaker it's a 10 for sure.
Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 11/26/2008
at 08:36pm
by Jaydee
Features
:No Opinion
Sound Quality
:10
Reliability
:No Opinion
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Overall Rating
:10
I previously had a Celestion G12 Century Vintage with the neo magnet in a Billm modded Fender Blues Junior.. It was an upgrade from the stock speaker, but the Celestion just wasn't the sound I was looking for, so the search continued. After hearing great reviews of the Eminence Texas Heats from the Fender Forum members, I checked out a couple of Eminence speakers. Their website was very helpful in helping choose the sound you're looking for. Not only did they have sound clips of their speakers, they also have a very descriptive chart of what their speakers' differences are and what they feature. I was looking for more low end response that is also fat and round while keeping the highs from being spiky without it being muddy.. and to my surprise.. that was exactly what Eminence's tone guide chart described for the Swamp Thang. After comparing the sound clips, I was sold. I have a PRS Korina McCarty plugged into my Fender. I must say that I am very satisfied with the tone of this setup. It's now more full, warm, and lively.
Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: USD 200
Submitted 10/24/2008
at 06:42pm
by guitardo
Features
:No Opinion
speaker
Sound Quality
:5
i bought these speakers by suggestion of an amplifier repairman. i am running a '67 dual showman through a 2x12 bandmaster cabinet. after reading many reviews i was hoping that this speaker would have more headroom and low-end, but relatively controlled highs like the original oxfords that came in my cabinet (which gave up on me after a few weeks of playing the dual showman loud). well, the headroom is definately there, but the lows are beyond low (i have to turn the bass all the way down to tame them). the highs ended up being so out of control that i have to turn the treble down on everything. the mids are ?. i was hoping the "dark" description i read about would suit my clean style. instead it translated to huge lows, piercing highs, and nothing in between. generally, after much time experimenting, these speakers lack the warmth and mids i was looking for in a high power speaker. i guess they aren't a match for my head.
btw...i play a late 80's japanese squire, which has late 60's humbuckers from an unplayable gibson. it sounded great before the oxfords blew!
Reliability
:No Opinion
seems to have taken forever to break-in (does this mean they are really tough and long-lasting, or that they just suck?).
Customer Support
:No Opinion
will end up selling them on ebay.
Overall Rating
:5
i believe these speakers may do better in a situation where effects are used to create a more specific tone, or where the head used has much more tonal variety than my fender. these spekers just did not work for me.
Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 03/05/2008
at 03:59pm
by gibby
Features
:10
This is a 12" speaker with a massive SPL rating (very sensitive). While this may not be everyones cup of tea it is a very nice speaker in it's own right. I am running this with an Orange Tiny Terror in a 1 x 12 Earcandy cab. The TT is very mid focused so I needed a bit of lows to fill things out. The lows are very smooth and full but no real fart or boom. It does not break up very soon, and match up with a higher gain amp like mine very nicely.
Sound Quality
:10
Tonally it's somewhere between an ELM12L (I have one in my Twin II) and a V30, but closer to the EV. It's a very full sounding speaker that remains comples in tone through out the frequencies. There is a bit of high end roll off with is a big help with a TT (keeps the ear piercing tones away). This speaker does a nice job of showing off the properties of the amp and handles amp gain with ease and taste. This speaker is very different sounding from most anything else I have used and will give you a more distictive tone. I would suggest that this speaker be used for jazz, blues and classic rock. I can't comment obout metal, I don't play metal (although it does a nice job of AC/DC and Black Sabbath). being a high SPL speaker it gives me just enough to use a 15 watt amp for small club gigs and gets me over a drummer with ease
Reliability
:10
It's a speaker... either it blows or not. I'm driving this speaker with a 15 watt amp so I doubt I'll ever blow it up. One thing you should know is that it takes a long time to break in, sounds pretty bad until it does break in. I almost pulled it out twice before it broke in
Customer Support
:No Opinion
I have never contacted them... I don't know. All the other Eminence stuff I've ever used is very well built
Overall Rating
:9
I love this for it's current application. If you love the classic british tone (Celestron), this isn't the one for you.
Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: USD 84.99
Submitted 02/28/2008
at 12:16pm
by Mark
Features
:No Opinion
12" speaker from the Patriot (American- sounding) series, available in 8-, or 16-ohms, with a massive 59 oz. magnet, 8 mounting holes, and a 150 Watt power rating. Moderate to heavy doping. Matte black paint on the steel frame looks nice and understated in the back of a combo amp. Foam gaskets on the front and back of the speaker, for front- or rear-mounting, are a nice touch. Ditto the black rubber gasket around the magnet.
Sound Quality
:7
Please keep in mind that "tone" is VERY subjective, and anybody's description of a speaker is subject to interpretation. I???m using a Peavey TransTube Studio Pro (65W 1x12 combo), which is quite good for solid state and does a good job at Fender cleans and overdrive, as well as a high-gain Marshall type sound. I've been trying LOTS of different speakers (maybe a half dozen?) through this amp in the last year and I think I???ve identified some key differences between them.
I think the Swamp Thang is very hard (percussive), clean, and piano-like with crisp and punchy mids and highs (think Jensen C12K on steroids). It's slightly dark overall, but still has presence???-that intangible clarity and airy-ness that fills the room. It's very loud and very strong???-think Fender Twin???-and will instantly turn your amp into a high-volume clean monster. Not my cup of tea, and not what I was looking to get out of my amp, but I???ll admit it sounds great for jazzy stuff. Ringing open-chord arpeggios and have never sounded better but, for funky or loose bluesy playing (more my style), the mids and highs are way too solid.
If you're familiar with the Texas Heat (same speaker construction but smaller magnet), this speaker is "more" of that speaker: big fat lows but more solid, and crisp attack but even harder.
Reliability
:10
I've never had a problem with the many Eminence speakers that I've owned. But then again, I don???t run my speakers past their power rating. Eminence appears to have very high quality and consistency across their Patriot and Red Coat lines. Packaging is very secure in shape-to-fit foam-lined sturdy boxes.
Customer Support
:10
I've emailed Eminence on a few occasions and received prompt helpful advice on selecting speakers and the like. Not all of their suggestions have always been my favorites, but it's subjective stuff and I don???t blame any of their advice for that.
Overall Rating
:6
Again, not my cup of tea, so I sold the speaker and moved on; although I'm happy for having tried the speaker out. Not happy, though, for losing my cash trying out all these speakers and then not being able to return/exchange/sell them for anything close to their original price. (My problem, not the speaker's.) I think this speaker would be wicked for clean jazz, but for anything else I'd move on. Try the Texas Heat for chugging hi-gain, the Cannabis Rex for smooth cleans and overdrive, or the Red White & Blues for a classic Blackface tone.
Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 04/08/2007
at 11:21pm
by Bill Ahrens
Features
:7
It's a speaker, so there's not a lot to list here...12" guitar speaker with 150 watt handling capacity (!). Your are NOT going to blow up this speaker. The magnet is massive in weight (6#, I think) and size (6" in diameter) so make sure you have enough room in your amp to accomodate this beast. If you are also concerned about weight this might be an issue due to the mere size/weight of the Swamp Thang. I believe the attributes of the speaker are clearly defined on Eminence's web site.
Sound Quality
:9
I replaced the stock speaker in my old Dean Markley (circa 1985) hybrid amp. I was looking for a speaker to tame the overbearing high end this amp has. It has done that job very well - the lows and mids are very strong in the Swamp Thang. Two things really surprised me - the sustain and the sensitivity of the speaker. I mostly use the Swamp Thang to play in a praise band, so my tones are usually clean or only slightly dirty. However, even clean the Swamp Thang has greatly increased the sustain I can get. This thing just rings forever! The stock speaker in my Dean Markley had limited sensitivity to picking techniquest. The Swamp Thang has really opened up this aspect of my playing. I can perform with greater dynamics without having to adjust the volume knob on the guitar.
Reliability
:No Opinion
Speakers tend to last a long time unless they are abused and everything I have heard about Eminence make me believe that I can expect the same thing from the Swamp Thang.
However, since I've only had this speaker about a month I cannot in all fairness give a rating here.
Customer Support
:10
I called Eminence and spoke with Anthony. He provided some very valuable advice and suggestions. I had pretty much settled on buying the Swamp Thang and my conversation with him confirmed my decision to proceed.
Looking back, Anthony's comments were very accurate and he did not attempt to hype Eminence's products just to sell me something. I really appreciate this type of service - you just don't find that very much these days.
Eminence's web site is also very good - they provide sound clips for all their speakers with 3 different types of guitar tones. If you're considering Eminence you must check out their web site.
Overall Rating
:10
I've been playing for 20+ years. I typically run a POD into my Dean Markley hybrid amp that now houses the Swamp Thang. Typically I play a Schecter C-7+ in my praise band. I haven't really had a chance to try this speaker much for hard rock, but it's great for clean or slightly crunchy tones.
I considered other Eminence speakers as well as Celestions. The Swamp Thang seemed to fit the bill for me and I am very pleased with it. If your amp is dark-sounding this may not be the right choice but if it's too bright give the Swamp Thang serious consideration.
In fact, even if the Swamp Thang may not be the perfect speaker for you chances are that Eminence makes one that does. The speakers are made in the USA and are a great value compared to Celestions. Eminence has speakers designed after some classic Celestions (and others) but they also have original creations like the Swamp Thang.
Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: USD 86
Submitted 03/27/2007
at 01:35pm
by Phil Navratil
Features
:10
New speaker (for me) from the Eminence Patriot line. Rated at 150 watts. Nice firm cone with doped edge and 2" VC. SPL rated at a whopping 103dB. LOUD, LOUD, VERY LOUD. Balanced tone. Nice paint, and a rubber surround on the magnet. Heavy speaker. Good for many styles. Well built.
Sound Quality
:10
I installed this in a Roland BC 60. After a month of breaking it in it finally came alive one day and it's been improving day by day. I use this with les pauls, a telecaster and a strat. This speaker doesn't seem to add much to the sound of my guitars, which I am happy about. It sounds really BIG, if you know what I mean. Clean stays very clean, even with humbuckers. My single coils are bright with this thing but there isn't even a hint of top end harshness. Very smoooooooth! Really, it handles the highs very well. Mids are there but not overly done, which I like. The bottom is super clear and this thing will not get muddy in the low end, even with the bass turned to 10. Overall the tone is well balanced. I completely agree that in the clean mode this speaker delivers a nice, American tone for classic rock, hard rock and blues. With the Telecaster it is super responsive and very "fast" so it gives me that Telecaster spank, percussiveness and bite. The strat sounds are impressive, too. Les pauls sound very fat and rich in clean mode.
On the BC 60s overdrive channel the speaker is surprisingly smooth and it seems to handle nice harmonics with my Duncan equipped les pauls (Alnico magnet pickups.) Pure, smooth overdrive with les pauls. Think Allman brothers, early Clapton (Cream years) or 38 Special or even early Page, depending on tone settings.
Sounds like Hendrix, Trower, SRV, etc when overdriven, using the strat.
It seems to tame the telecaster when overdriven, too. Not harsh. Very clear, biting Telecaster growl.
It will roar with scooped metal tones if the amp is set to cut the mids but that's not my style. Even so, I would recommend it for metal players, too. It does have a huge capacity for clear, powerful lows and it does take to pedal distortion well.
I play mostly classic rock and clean rockabilly, surf and blues. I have to say that I have been searching for this speaker for a long time. It's perfect for my sound. I have tried Greenbacks, Eminence Wizards, the stock Roland Vintage 12 (a good speaker, by the way) and a Texas Heat in the BC 60. This is the ONE! In my opinion, it's just the best sounding speaker I have ever heard.
Reliability
:10
Never had issues. It's a 150 watt speaker in a 60 watt amp. I don't expect it to fail, ever. I have owned seven different types of Eminence speakers over the years and only had one fail on me, which was my own fault for pushing it way too hard. Eminence makes very strong speakers.
Customer Support
:10
Eminence always answers my questions with quick, personal replies. Their customer support people know their stuff and they are courteous, professional and dependable. They care about customers and it shows. I only use Eminence speakers, period.
Overall Rating
:10
I've been playing electric guitar since 1985. Before that I played acoustic flat tops for another 15 years. My amps have ranged from Fender Champs, Princetons, Twins, Peaveys and now, the Roland BC amps (I have the BC 60 with the Swamp Thang and a BC 30 with a Wizard.) Except for a 2 X 10 Fender Princeton Chorus with original Fender speakers, ALL of my amps have Eminence speakers in them. I like Eminence because they sound so good, they have long, long warranty periods, the customer service is good and the price is excellent. I have owned & auditioned Legend V 12, GB 12, Alnico 122s (25 watt and 35 watt models-both types), Wizards, Texas Heats and the Swamp Thangs. Over the years I have purchased 15 Eminence speakers. It's the only speaker I will install in my amps. I can't think of any improvements i could suggest for the Swamp Thang. To my ears it is the best sounding speaker I have ever owned. I like the Wizard and the GB 12 a lot, too. These three are my favorites from Eminence for all around versatility and good sound. I liked the Legend 122s for a previous cover band where we did 50s and 60s "oldies" rock music playing clean tones only, but I didn't like them as much for heavy rock sounds. I have already bought the Swamp Thang again and will probably buy another in the future. This speaker rocks for any style, as most overall excellent speakers do. Buy it and you won't be disappointed.
Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 01/13/2007
at 01:00am
by pdouds
Features
:9
12" 150 watt, 8 ohms , speaker. I'm sure you get the picture. These speakers are BLOODY loud, man it makes my Fuchs 50 sound twice as loud as with another less efficient speaker.
Sound Quality
:9
This speaker fills in interesting niche for my rig. I have a 1-12 ported cab that i use an Eminence RWB for the funk, fusion , and blues stuff, but i needed a good all-around warm, articulate speaker for jazz, but versatile enough to cover blues and fusion.This speaker does the job fine. Don't get me wrong, the swampy does fine for the other styles, but i really like it for jazz, and smoky blues/fusion. I used to drag along 2 guitars to a gig, my semi-hollow Hamer newport pro, and my Yamaha AE1200S archtop. Now most of the time, i can get by with just the Hamer. My trio does a ton of different styles, and this speaker does great. I like the clean tones for Jazz a lot better with the swampy. It make my Fuchs 50 sound HUGE. Nice clean tones, with plenty of meat on them. Guitar player mag. referred to this speaker as a cross between a JBL, and a Jenson, I agree. In other words, if you want to sound like Robben Ford, buy the RWB, if you want to sound jazzier and warmer, buy the swampy, or do like I do, and own both.
Be forewarned, don't expect this speaker to sound great after a couple of days, it takes a long time to break in. I really didn't like it at first, and even unloaded it for a while, but then re-loaded it, and after a few more weeks, it really came alive one day.
Reliability
:10
I think you could run a lot of power through one of these , and be OK.
Customer Support
:9
I have owned the Wizard, Commonwealth, RWB, and this swampy, and have never had any trouble them at all.
Overall Rating
:8
I have been playing (off and on) for 30+ years. Have been back to playing for the last 5, and am having a ball. I own a strat (zion) with kinmans, my Hamer newport Pro with Lollar Imperial Pickups (killer pickups!), My 1980 Yamaha AE1200S (L5 knockoff), a cordoba gut-string, a taylor 714, and a few others not worth mentioning.
I use a Fuchs ODS50SLX head with an Ear Candy Sovereign cab, NICE CAB!!!
If it were stolen, I would probably replace it. They go really cheap on ebay sometimes, them being a kind of a niche speaker.
Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: US $50.00 used
Submitted 11/04/2005
at 04:39pm
by Phil Chapman
Features
:No Opinion
12 Inch 8ohm speaker, the magnet is big on this and adding quite a bit of weight.
Sound Quality
:8
The sound was suprisingly good. The bass was not over powering and it was not flabby or mushy. Firm full rich bass response is what you get with this speaker. The mids stand out well and the highs are not overly bright or piercing. Distortion breaks up well, smooth and not grainy. The mix of the mids and highs blend in to the bass creating a pretty smooth sound overall. I felt it was in some ways like a Celestion Vintage 30 but with a different voicing in the mids and with soother highs. I have been experimenting with the Eminence Patriot line of speakers and found this one the best for my amps. I have tried the Blue Tick hound (some what mellow sound with light bass), Screaming Eagle (mids and highs seem to be very very forward, bass is tight), Texas Heat (well balanced and more musical than the Screamin Eagle but still has mids and highs that are quite forward in the over all sound). The Swamp Things bass gives a nice full bottom for supporting the mids and highs. It works very well in my Peavey Ultra 12 and Pignose G60V. I have tried Jensens and celestions in the two amps and found the Swamp Thing to cover many styles better and with smoother highs, clean or distorted. Distortion break up is on the smooth side and not grainy. This speaker is voiced like the other Patriot speakers, in other words mids and highs seem to be somewhat similar as other speakers in the line up but with the most bass. Eminence has it own flavor, does not quite get that Jensen chime and it does not have the Celestion british tone or woodyness. It's its own tone.
Reliability
:No Opinion
Built well
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Never used it
Overall Rating
:8
Over all it turned out to be a great match for my amps and has enhanced the sound. Great for blues or Jazz, pop-rock, rock and Metal.
I am suprised how well chords and lead runs stand out.
Product: Eminence Swamp Thang Price Paid: US $75
Submitted 08/18/2005
at 09:56pm
by chris
Features
:No Opinion
150w RMS 8ohm speaker (also available in 16 ohm)
Sound Quality
:10
this speaker is perfectly suited for my exact taste and sound. It is very loud and efficient speaker and very full sounding with good not seperation (it doesent make distorted notes all mix together and sound like a distorted mooosh) dont let the title of the speaker fool you or the description of it saying it is bottom heavy (which it is) some people may think this mean the speaker is going to sound like a real bass punchy nu metal sound but i promise it is NOT that. it has a great smooth round sound and good mids and the highs are still available if you are into that. all around this speaker just kiks a lot of ass and im sooo glad i purchased this and put it in my marshall AVT50. It has made the amp honestly almost twice as loud and better quality overall for my sound.
Reliability
:No Opinion
eminence is a great company and are used in many fender amps and work with many other company i full trust their products (7 year warranty...wow) and their is no excuse for blowing a speaker. just match your power and ohms up and just use your ears, if the speaker starts sounding harsh and like it is throaty, than back down on the volume and abuse.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Overall Rating
:No Opinion
this speaker isnt for everyone s tonal tastes but for me it is my favorite speaker in every way, even better than most celestions in my opinion. i highly highly reccommend it.