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Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 12/10/2003
at 11:55pm
by Harry Sechrest
Features
:
10
This is an update to a previous review I wrote. I have added the Torres Mod kit, new tubes and a Carvin British Series speaker.
Sound Quality
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9
With the modifications to the amp it now has a killer tone and is really loud. I think the amp is gig worthy in smaller venues. A extension speaker out was also added. The clean channel has a lot more low end with the speaker replacement. I have also just bought a US Tele with a Seymour Duncan in the bridge, and this little amp really honks. The Torres Mod made the lead channel more useable. It has a more pleasing distortion and breakup and doesn't sound so harsh.
Reliability
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No Opinion
So Far, So good.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
None needed.
Overall Rating
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9
I've been playing for over 40 years. I'm currently bidding on another Champ 12 on eBay. If I win, I will do modifications with a different speaker and tubes plus the Torres Mod.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $199.00
Submitted 11/28/2003
at 01:44pm
by Harry Sechrest
Features
:
8
I'm not sure of the year of manufacture. I bought it used off eBay. It was in great shape. When I first plugged a Nashville Tele I thought the clean channel was a little whimpy, but when I plugged in my Gibson SG.... Whoa Mama! Power to spare. I was surprised at the power. The amp has two channels and channels are switched via a hard wired footswitch. I bought this amp with the intention of using it in my living room, but I think with my SG or my G&L Legacy I could gig in a small club with it. I've ordered new tubes, the Torres Mod and a new Jensen 12Q speaker for it. These upgrades should give it more punch with single coil pickups. My G&L Legacy has pretty hot pickups so it sounds good but could benefit from a little more power. I think the mods I will soon be making will take care of that. I am playing classic rock & roll, jazz and modern country.
Sound Quality
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8
The clean channel is typical Fender tube sound. I had a Fender Blues Jr. for a while and this sounds similar. Once again, my Gibson SG pushes the clean channel to mild break up. My Tele is 100% clean and my G&L gets a mild edge at high volume settings. The lead channel is almost unusable due to it's high gain and sensitivity. The Torres Mod should help this after what I have read about it. The distortion is harsh if the gain is up to high. It it more pleasing with the gain lowered and the volume up.
Reliability
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No Opinion
I don't know about the reliability, but it does seem made for abuse. I've had other small tube amps over the year that have been fragile and required very careful packing and handling. When I replace the speaker with the Jensen 12Q and replace all the tubes, I think this amp will be very reliability. The problem with buying an older used amp is you don't know how old the tubes are and what kind of shape the speaker is really in until something fails. I would recommend always changing tubes and speakers in an older amp when you buy one used.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Haven't needed it.
Overall Rating
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8
I would give this amp an overall 8 just because I haven't had it long enough to make an informed evaluation. After Mods, I think this will be a killer Class A tube amp and the price was almost a giveaway.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: #110 (SCOTTISH pounds)
Submitted 06/07/2003
at 03:50pm
by Don Luke
Features
:
9
Right, here is the deal with the Champ 12. It is a brilliant amp for very low money. But you gotta do a few small spec changes to get the best out of it. First get the Torres upgrade kit, this is easy to fit and makes the amp sound a LOT better, change the overdrive channel volume and gain pots to 450,000 value from 1000,000. Again reasonable outlay. This balances out the volume from the clean channel to overdrive channel. The lower value pot on the gain gives a smoother increase in gain and is more useable. Fit a set of decent TUBES, N.O.S if possible. There is only one output and two 12ax7's (this is a cheap ugrade to quality tubes compared by other amps with many more to replace). Fit a better speaker. I suggest the Celestion vintage 30, which will give the amp the volume to gig at reasonable venues. If you can go as far as the Celestion Alnico Blue, more the better, as this makes this amp come alive even more. For you guys in the States, I realise the Celestions are more expensive over there so I am sure you can come up with a USA 12" driver upgrade that does the business. Now all these mods are at reasonble cost and the end product is brilliant.
Sound Quality
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9
This amp is always going to sound better with a strat or tele. With the upgrades mentioned above, this amp sounds as good as any high quality low power amp. Throw an old tubescreamer or OD1 into the front end and it is even better. I am reading a few moans about this product on this page, but please take the cost into it. A matchless 15 or Badcat 15 is crazy money, and with a little investment on your Champ, you can really make it sing. Go on, get the most out of it.
Reliability
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9
Never let me down, but I would have preferred a standby switch for turning on and off to protect Tubes a little more.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Never needed it
Overall Rating
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9
If my amp was lost or stolen, I would definately pick up another one and do the same mods again, no question. Sure there are marginally better low power amps but at a LOT more money and some of them are perhaps overbuilt.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 05/20/2003
at 03:59pm
by Anonymous
Features
:
6
everyone else covered the features....hated there is no way to switch
the overdrive channel on from the front panel only thru the hardwired
footswitch.
Sound Quality
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1
Gain channel WAY too hot, really unusable, clean channel very low
in volume, reverb was just ok...I tried another one like mine in
a music store and it sounded just the same...so I sold it.
I have no idea why people could like this amp.
Reliability
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5
Mine was working to specs, the one I played in the store had
most of the input jacks broken and the pilot light was out.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Overall Rating
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3
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 04/19/2003
at 10:55am
by Anonymous
Features
:
4
Bad features: An ugly plastic face plate, plastic input jacks, cheap plastic power rocker switch, ugly little pilot light, lack of chrome chassis mounting strips on the amp top,
a marginal transistor reverb with an even more marginal chassis mounted cardboard spring tank, a composition board case and a poorly designed lead channel overdrive.
Good features: Although it has printed circuitry, the amp produces a good classic fender tone with easy to get tubes. I also like the 12 inch speaker and the chassis mounted tube sockets and pots.
Sound Quality
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No Opinion
I bought this amp new for use in the band's rehearsal room. I used it there for years, never realizing the original 6L6 power tube was somehow faulty and causing a very poor overall tone. When the tube finally degraded to the point where the amp became unusable, I installed a cheap Sovtech replacement. To my surprise, the amp never, not since day one, sounded so good. This says something about user reviews. Before the change, I would have rated sound quality as a 2. Now, I would rate the clean channel as an acceptable 7. The reverb is very shallow and doesn?t add any of the nice overtones of real, tube driven types, but it is preferable to none and works well enough to prevent that dry sound of reverbless amps. The 12 inch speaker helps by adding a bit more body than most champs. I would say that I prefer the sound of this amp to any silver faced champ.
I find the built in overdrive to be totally useless. Way, way too much gain.
If you use the traditional blues technique of cranking the amp to 8 or so and using the guitar volume to switch from chord to lead work, you get a useable blues, R&B sort of sound. Not great, but fine for rehearsals and casual jamming. This is a very handy and reasonably good sounding amp, if you?re the type of player who likes the sound of Fender combos to begin with.
Reliability
:
8
In 10 years of use, only the power switch failed. I replaced it with a proper metal toggle.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
8
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $110.00 used
Submitted 03/07/2003
at 03:46pm
by Anonymous
Features
:
6
These amps were made from 1987-1991. It's a pretty basic amp: @ channels share common tone controls ( treble, bass ) and the treble control has a pull mid boost switch. Two channels : 1 clean ( volume) and 1 gain ( gain, volume ) and also has reverb ( this is a true spring reverb until, but it is actually inside the chassis, and house in a cardboard "tank.") It has a headphone jack, a line out jack, and jacks for a tape/cd input. It has a 12" speaker, and the footswitch (channel switching) is actually hard wired to the amp.
I'm not sure of the actual power rating, but it is between 10-12 watts. This is a class A tube amp, 1 6L6 GC power tube, (2) 12AX7A pre-amp tubes, everything else is solid state. The amp actually has just the right amount of volume for bedroom playing.
Sound Quality
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7
I have a Fender Super 210, and the distortion sounds very close. It is not over the top, but you can get some good Hendrix type sounds, AC/DC, Zep, but not for the metal crowd. I play tele's or a strat. The amp isn't unusually noisy, but hums a little, probably due to much needed tubes. The gain channel can get very loud, but nothing that most small tube amps can do. Again, it does need a new power tube, so the volume might go up . The clean channel sounds great, just what you would expect from a Fender Tube amp.
Reliability
:
10
I got this amp used, actually abused is more like it. It was beat to shit, and I'm guessing it was probably picked-up out of someone's garbage. It had s few rips and tears in the tolex, 1 major chunk of wood taken out of the front, the speaker has a hole in it ( ice pick from the looks of it,) 1 broken chassis mount, master volume and reverb control pots were broken right off the circuit board. Yet, it still LIVES!!! It fired up when I got it, even with the broken controls ( which I have since repaired.) I've completely dissassembled the amp, and I like what I see inside. The tubes are mounted to the metal chassis, NOT to the circuit board. As far as the circuit board goes, the two control pots ( broken when the amp fell at some time in the past) broke in half, but NOT the circuit board!! It didn't have a scratch on it! The only thing I don't like are the friggin' plastic input jacks, but those can be replaced easy enough. The amp is very easy to work on, even if you haven't soldered much before...just watch out for the filter caps, or you will get the shock of your life!!! All things considered, I'd have to give this amp a 10 as far as reliablility goes.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
8
I have been playing about 30 years, and I like this amp for what it is... a small practice amp which a decent tube sound. That's because it is a real tube amp. If it were lost or stolen, I'd try to replace it. I love the overall sound of the amp, both clean and gain channels. It does sound a little boxy, but hey, so does the Blues Jr., and just about any single speaker amp, in my opinion. The volume leverl is just right...my Super 210 sounds better, but is just too loud.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: #125 used
Submitted 11/17/2002
at 10:54am
by Don
Features
:
8
I feel that this amp has enough features for the average player.
Sound Quality
:
9
The clean sound on this amp is very good. It has the classic Fender tone. I have read other reviews from guitarists that are unhappy, but I find it very good. I changed the speaker for a Celestion Vintage 30 and the difference was amazing. The output is greater and it sounds a lot more classier. I hated the overdrive for the leap in volume and harsh gain. I changed the overdrive volume pot from 1000,000 value pot to 100,000. I also did this with the gain knob. This has also made a huge difference. I can now get a just breaking up sound on the OD channel and without the jump in volume. I am also add the torres mod. Overall this amp was cheap at #125 and with a few tweaks it can be killer.
Reliability
:
10
Never, ever has it let me down. I have just had to change the input jacks
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
9
If this amp was lost or stoled I would definately buy another. I have owned amps that are a lot more expensive and have not sounded better.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: $185 (canadian)
Submitted 11/15/2002
at 06:11pm
by kevin
Features
:
6
The champ 12 is a footswitchable two channel tube combo amp with solid state reverb. The footswitch gives you the option of a clean channel and an 'overdrive' channel. The Amp is powered by a single 6L6 with a two 12ax7 preamp section.
The features(overdrive and reverb) get alot of bad press in previous reviews, so I would like to say what can be said, that is good about them. If you read 'overdrive' as versitile overdrive you will be dissappointed. If you under stand that this feature is actually a 'treble booster distortion' with only one good setting then you will see it for what it is, and be perfectly happy that it's there. The only useful setting is 'overdrive' 1.5 and 'volume 1.5.
No kidding. This channel is so much louder than the clean channel, it leaves one wondering what the designer was thinking. Set as mentioned, most people who like treble boosters and Boss OD-1's will like it. The reverb if set at 1-2, puts a nice pocket of air around the notes. Above that it is splashy and unmusical. It sounds better than all of Marshalls attemps at a reverb.
I had a chance to A/B the Champ 12 ($185) with a 70's Fender Princeton reverb ($650) a 66 Princeton ($450) and a silverface Champ ($275).
The features aren't amazing but they are there and usefull if used
appropriately
Sound Quality
:
7
I was looking for a fat sounding practice tube amp for small small dollars. I will start by comparing the clean channel of the champ 12 to the three fenders.
The Fender princeton reverb was by far the best, fattest, and loudest of the 4 amps I tried - no surprize. It also had heavenly fender reverb. It was also the most expensive.
The 66 (non-reverb) Princeton was surprising flat sounding.
The trem/vibrato feature was alright, but weak. The Champ 12 was fuller and louder sounding at alot less than half the money.
The Silverface champ sounded good, but again was not as loud or full sounding. The champ had no features.
The champ 12 came in second in this group of four fenders, and was by far the cheapest. It's reverb, while inferior to a tube driven reverb pan, certainly didn't suck when used in moderation to wet notes. The 'treble booster distortion' was also a single setting effect, but useful and cool for what it was.
Reliability
:
8
This amp was produced in 1987 or so and has survived in good
working order for 15 years. That has got to be worth...
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
unlikely Fender would be receptive to the suggestion that they provide service on this amplifier.
Overall Rating
:
8
It's never going to replace a Fender reverb combo in anyones
musical universe, but it's a darn good 'bang for the buck' preformer. IMHO better and cheaper than a silverface champ
and better a non-reverb Princeton ( that now commands too much money) Because it's affordable I'll give it....
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $125
Submitted 10/30/2002
at 04:55pm
by Anonymous
Features
:
5
76 or 78 depending on who you believe.
I have been looking for a clean but edgy sound for blues and Blues Rock. The sound on the clean channel is like a double power champ.
The Overdrive channel is almost worthless as it becomes too distored beyond 1 maybe 2. I really like the clean channel so the overdrive and reverb quality (or lack of same) is not a big issue.
Two Channels with a permanently attached switch. No effects loop. Headphone jack and "1 volt output"
Wish it had the effects loop, better reverb, and ususable overdrive channel
I use this a practice amp. But imagine it would be adequate in a small club. The tube sound it nice if not twin reverb rich.
Sound Quality
:
7
I use this amp with a Epiphone SG (twin Humbuckers)
It is adequate for blues
The Overdrive and reverb is a little noisy
If you like the tone it is fine but not particularly versatile.
Play it loud and it will distort
the Overdrive is brutal past 1 or 2
Reliability
:
8
It has been dependable, I would gig with it without a backup.
Never broken down
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
N/A
Overall Rating
:
5
I have been playing for 20 years
I have an Epiphone SG, Fender Strat, Gibson 58'reissue 335, Gibson Flying V, two Randall amps, a 70's fender champ and a rickenbacker amp. Also have Pod 2.0
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $224.00 used
Submitted 10/18/2002
at 11:08am
by tom lance
Email: tlance at excite<dot>com
Features
:
8
I rated this on 9/10/02, name: give me earplugs....I have changed my mind after talking my friend who builds tube amps at $1200 and up, and the guys at Torres(sell their mods for $17)...
Sound Quality
:
10
Have decided to make it work...it wasn't easy at 1st, but after the low cost initially, and advice from my friend to put my old pedals in front it here is what I got: a all tube amp, very loud, not noisy, with a fender 12 inch driver...that as a geezer, I CAN CARRY. The pedals: tube screamer, Boss Blues driver, and my modeler. The modeler handles the reverb and delays, and of course the above mentioned cover channel changing and overdrive(as my initial rating berated the overdrive channel, and still find it annoying...but I read that on many ratings on Fender amps excetp the Rivera Era stuff). Sounds much better through the house system than my Crate Acoustic. This amp has the CD line in, and a line out, plus head phone jack(also useful for line out if you want all your sound in the monitors and the house but not out of your amp.
Reliability
:
10
I'm using it full on, 2 hours every friday...I only carry a pre amp tube, and no back ups.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
N/A out of warranty.
Overall Rating
:
9
Played 30 years, mostly blues, roots rock. I wouldn't replace it per say...I'm cheap, and have 5 others...but a class A, hand wired amp???? Try having one built with limited features(less than this one), a 12 inch driver = at least $1000. You get my drift, for what I payed compared to some botique amps, it was a killer deal all the way around(once I got over my initial buyers remorse and talked with tube amp buiding buddy, & got some perspective). I do see some one from a seller in Maine on Ebay selling his own for $400...probably a steal. I plan on doing the mods when the there is more time...cost seems reasonable.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: #175 used
Submitted 10/13/2002
at 03:30pm
by steve
Features
:
9
for a small panel there is a lot crammed on it , and its very versatile.
Sound Quality
:
No Opinion
there are a LOT of different sounds available, if you take the trouble to fiddle with various controls, reverb is fine. However, it can sound "small" and "boxy", mainly with midboost on ,and /or gain channel engaged. ive posted this reveiw, to outline some mods ive done which have made a huge difference, and may be of interest/ help to others. Firstly i made a new cabinet, suonds complicated, but not really, i used joinery grade softwood- available from any builders merchant, and cheap- just butted, glued and screwed. After A LOT of experimenting (i started with a big cab, and gradually whittled it down with sound tests, Surprisingly i ended up with a cab the same width (governed by control panel), the same depth, and just 5 inches higher. the speaker sits in the middle of the front baffle. two points;- rear baffles must show same ammount of speaker assembly as original, (a 6" gap),also a much clearer, bigger, sound comes with speaker mounted through front of front baffle (like good hi-fi), THe boxy sound has gone, much improved bass response; the real woodsomehow imparts a "vibrant", "lively" sound -great!
next;- speaker. I discovered that sensitvity- (rated as Db /1watt at 1 metre)was very important, espesially in a small power unit like this -3Db is equvilent to 100% increase in volume! I went with a celestion G12H (100Db at 1M) very good reveiws. To be honest the difference is incredible!!! Its sounds absolutely bloody fantastic, and must be 60/70%louder. If you do just one thing ,try this.
Ive tried several different pre amp valves, including a mullard that was in a mates selmer ,These could be down to personal prefference, with pros and cons alround. my only certainty, is a 5751 in od channel, which smoothes it up nicely,
Sound quality; std-6 , with mods-9
Reliability
:
9
this is made about 84, all seems original and still workingwell
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
N/A
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
I wont sell this ever, i dont think, its an alround great package.
Im going to try a walnut wood cab (same sizeas other one), prehaps might even sound more devine!! Overall- 7 with mods- 9
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $250 used
Submitted 10/09/2002
at 10:05pm
by Roy Phillips
Features
:
10
Same as other reviews. I don't think there's another tube amp in this size/cost class that comes close in terms of features. To get all this amp has, you'd have to spend a lot more money and/or be willing to lug a lot more weight.
Sound Quality
:
9
I think it sounds very good, again for an amp its size and cost. The clean channel has classic Fender chime, and I personally think the reverb is quite good. The drive channel is way too touchy and harsh stock, but I did the $15 Torres Mod, which is a snap even for a moron, and it improved both channels a lot. The drive is now quite useable and sounds killer even at very low volumes. As far as the touchy controls, I will probably do the mods mentioned below.
Reliability
:
9
It's at least 10 years old and going strong. The amp is cake to haul around too, which makes it less likely that you'll bang it up.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
N/A
Overall Rating
:
9
I've been playing for about 25 years but am not a professional musician. Still, I've tried out plenty of gear and have a pretty good ear for tone. The Champ 12 with a simple mod or two gives you an extremely versitile amp for home and/or small jam use that won't take up much space or break your back, and will give you every tone you need for any style without a bunch of stomp boxes. With all that plus the unusual tolex color options, these amps will likely become collectable.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $229.00 used
Submitted 09/10/2002
at 05:23pm
by give me earplugs!
Features
:
2
Just got it yesterday...drooled after it for 3 weeks. Features? who care it sucks. But that's cruel. A tube amp for $225, what was I thinking. I play now through a variety of Strats, and tele's, one with Lindy Fralin's, through a(believe it or not, a Crate 30 watt acuoustica amp, great bottum, great reverb, 2 types of distortion pedals do my two desired stages of gain, and the Zoom 503 amp modeler gives my me cabinet, delay, amp model(usually clean Johnson or Fender) and some lush reverbs. After getting this thing, out comes the Crate, until I can surf for some other 'vibey' toy..this ones history. Why? Features or lack there of: no volume control, its loud or off, zero bass, it's like someone took out that potetiometer for another project. Reverb: where? My Sivler face champ(70's) is better cause with pedals I can mod my sound with the champs controls I can at least turn it up gradually, the treble and bass work(ok not grate, but better than this overated beast).
Sound Quality
:
No Opinion
As stated above..hey it doesn't hum but neither does a used Marshall 30 cd(solid state), at least that overdrive is usable, as is the reverb-along with some smallish amps ie Fender 25 frontman, champ 30, Vox 15 watt(solid state). It's clean, so what!
Reliability
:
5
Very, for the two day I've had. It was shipped(ebay) N.Y. to Floriday, and took the beating. So would most else I think.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
N/A
Overall Rating
:
1
I've played in the bedroom for 30 years, some garage bands, now every friday I have a gig. Have owned an original Sears twin twelve(danelectro)in the 60's, 66 Bassman for lead with a 65 Meledy maker, still have the melody maker now with twin humbuckers, thanks to Rob Monroe in El Paso(Rhino Amps, Monroe Guitars). Have mid 70's 60watt Acoustic Combo, killer overdrive, bass and reverb(suprise it's not tube, wouldn't know it though) Just sold my beloved Peavey Delta Blues 210..now theres one I'd buy again: lush reverb, deep overdrive WOW!! I get all tingly just remembering, if they'd just cut the weight down(why I sold it, couldn't lug it without back surgery), which brings us today's fish: smells bad, wish it were stolen today, will consign it locally this weekend, hope I get my $ back out of it. I hear those new Epiphone Elector 30's are hot!(light, sealed cabinet, good bass ect., cheap). My gut told me to buy a used 60 watt Seymour Duncan Convertable despite the weight, or a comproble Carvin Tube, or a Mesa Subway Rocket....but I'm cheap, now see what it cost me? I'll have to sell my collection of maple 80's squire strat necks to afford the good stuff.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $250. used
Submitted 07/02/2002
at 10:17pm
by morbius
Features
:
10
OK, ok, after reading all of the comments about this amp in these pages, I feel compelled to give everyone who cares the REAL story, in Fender's own words, of this great little amp. What follows is a complete transcription of my original owner's manual...
"The Fender Champ 12 amplifier combines all-tube, footswitchable overdrive capability, reverb, and a Fender Special Design 12" speaker all in a compact yet sturdy enclosure. The Champ 12 utilizes state of the art construction techniques and minimum parts count for maximun reliability. The amplifier uses only three tubes and features a unique CLASS-A type output section which causes the 6L6GC tube to produce a distinctively smooth sound which has proven to be a very popular characteristic of low-power tube amps over the years.
The tonal characterisics have been tailored to produce a wide range of sounds in both the clean and overdrive modes. The tone controls actually work over a different range while in the overdrive mode effectively giving the player a second set of controls. The PULL FOR MID BOOST feature on the treble control provides even more flexibility and will produce a fatter tone useful for distortion playing.
The Champ 12 also offers a variety of input options. The two instrument inputs will accommodate many different instruments, either active or standard passive types, and the two inputs come in handy in the teaching environment where both the student and teacher can plug in together. The Tape input is useful for the attachment of any line level signal source to be used as accompaniment, be it a tape player, CD player, or rhythm machine. Stereo inputs are provided and the signal is converted to mono inside the Champ 12. The volume control on the external signal source varies its level and the Champ 12 volume controls set the instrument level. This feature is particularly handy for practicing and works well in conjunction with headphones plugged into the headphone jack for private playing. In addition to the headphone jack the Champ 12 has a line output jack that provides an unbalanced signal which is useful for the connection of slave power amps and larger speaker systems for more output. This output can also be connected to a mixing console, equalized and then used for recording or sound reinforcement.
The selection of a Fender amplifier will reward you with years of quality music in a wide range of controlled sounds. This manual is designed to familiarize you with the equipment and acquaint you with its many features. Read it carefully so that you will benefit from all the features as soon as you start using the amplifier.
The built-in quality of a Fender amplifier is the result of over three and a half decades of dedication in the combined skills of research and developement by our engineers and musicians.
That is why we say, proudly, FENDER, The Sound That Creates Legends.
Champ 12 Front Panel Functions
A. INPUTS - Plug-in connection for instruments. Input 1 has a higher sensitivity and impedance than Input 2 and is suitable for most all instruments. Input 2 has 6db less gain and is useful for clean sound with high output pickups. When jacks 1 and 2 are used simultaneously they both have the same sensitivity.
B. TREBLE - Adjusts the amount of boost (accentuation) or cut (attenuation) in the high frequency range. This knob also can be pulled out for boosted midrange which is useful in the overdrive mode for more sustain and drive.
C. BASS - Adjusts the amount of boost or cut in the low frequency range. This control automatically operates over a different range in the overdrive mode to provide optimum equalization for distortion playing.
D. VOLUME - Adjusts the overall loudness when in the clean mode (overdrive indicator is off).
E. GAIN - Adjusts the amount of amplification in the preamp when in the overdrive mode (overdrive indicator is on). Ceaner sound is achieved at lower gain settings. High gain settin
Sound Quality
:
10
The Torres mod for the Champ 12 makes a HUGE difference. More output, more consistency between clean and drive channels, and lots more tone! The kit is simple to install and is available at torresengineering.com.
Reliability
:
10
Very sturdy construction. Haven't had a problem... but this thing does get hot! I used small washers for spacers between the amp chassis and the cabinet on top to let a little of the heat out. It's not visible and it definitelt runs cooler. Change the four power supply caps (the large blue ones on the board next to the output transformer inside the chassis and your hum should go away. These caps are close to the output tube sucket and get HOT! I recommend again to use the spacers as mention above to let out the heat.
Customer Support
:
10
Fenderforum.com is the place to go for fender information on guitars and amps that Fender doesn't make anymore. Fender is very helpful with their new products, but information on the old stuff is tough to get from Fender.
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
If you find one of these little gems used, grab it! Most people still think the red knob Fenders were crap... their loss! Their stupidity keeps the used price down for those of us who can still hear and appreciate what a hot little tube amp can do...
Good luck!
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $175 used
Submitted 05/27/2002
at 06:30am
by Rich Kurr
Features
:
6
Features are described in other posts but most useful are reverb and separate switchable overdrive channel. This class A tube amp puts 10 watts into a 12" Fender special design speaker and is plenty loud for home practice. No effects loop but I dont need one.
Sound Quality
:
8
The clean channel has a nice class A sound with my '75 Les Paul Deluxe. The stock O/D channel is much too harsh and bright for my liking. Hitting the O/D footswitch overrides the volume control effectively setting it to 10 resulting is massive distortion. A previous reviewers suggestion to bypass this is essential to getting the O/D under control. I recently posted details on how to do this and eliminate some of the O/D brightness in the Amp Mods section of the Fender Forum (fenderforum.com).
The reverb in this amp is solid state driven and therefore doesn't have the classic Fender sound. Nonetheless it is still useful perfectly adequate for what I need.
There is a slight hum to this amp but that is considered normal. The hum does not get louder when the volume is turned up and cannot be heard when playing. There is tech note on the web covering this. To find it use the phrases "Champ 12" and "Hum" in your search engine.
The rating for this amp reflects the modded amp. The O/D on the stock amp would knock several points off.
Reliability
:
10
I've only had this amp a few months but it has given me no trouble. The amp cabinet is very sturdy. The input jacks are plastic and I can tell they have been repaired or replaced in the past. I have no doubt this amp will last a long time given reasonable care.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
These amps went out of production in the early 90s so the warranty is long gone. A good amp tech can handle problems if they arise.
Overall Rating
:
9
I gigged heavily in the 70's but stopped playing in the 80's and 90's and am now starting again. The Champ 12 is an excellent value for a home / practice amp. You get a variety of features and sounds for a very reasonable price. For this reason I am rating it high.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 04/30/2002
at 02:57pm
by mike
Email: mag120<at>ix dot netcom dot com
Features
:
4
Bad control layout -- gain stage too sensitive.
Clean channel does not break up and has a high frequency ringing that sounds bad on recordings - can be stopped by removing c26. The most useful and simple
mod that can be done on this amp is to bypass the optical switch
and short the first volume pot to ground. Much more control over distortion -- do not try this if you have no experience, take it to a tech.
schematic
http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/schem/champ_12_schem.gif
Sound Quality
:
5
Played mostly with strat - clean channel is ok, distortion
bad.
Reliability
:
10
Very reliable.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
6
Check out
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~mag120/tone_samples.htm
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: #175 (Sterling) used
Submitted 03/20/2002
at 11:25am
by Anonymous
Features
:
8
Two channels;clean and o/d. Reverb,2 inputs, headphone socket, line out, tape / cd in; treble (with pull mid), bass and gain on ch. 2. volume for each channel.
1 x 12 inch Fender labelled speaker.Black face styling and red knobs. 1 x 6L6 and 2 x 12ax7's. According to a "Guitarist magazine" of 197? this amp is rated at 18 watts RMS.THe name "Champ 12" comes from the 12 inch speaker.I was interested to see in other reviews that this amp is "single ended class A" ... I always thought it was class A/B!
Although the amp has enough power for small gigs (with a restrained drummer)but I usually put the line out into the back of a Roland cube 60 for the extra oomph.
Sound Quality
:
8
The clean sounds are fine, but I find the distortion a bit harsh, especially at practice levels, so I usually set channel 2 as a second clean "boost" channel and use a session sp75 pedal for overdrive / distortion purposes.
The amp is a little "toppy" so I roll the treble down and the bass up. The combination of the Champ's open back cabinet and the closed back of the Cube rounds things out nicely. The reverb is a tad dull but better than leaving it turned off.
I play covers from the 50's to the 80's and the Champ works well with a Strat, Yamaha SJ550 ( coil tap humbuckers) and even with my Epiphone Joe Pass jazzer.
Reliability
:
10
No problems!
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Never had any dealings with them.
Overall Rating
:
8
A reasonably versatile little amp with a decent sound. I don't know if I would replace it if it was lost or stolen, I'd like to try a Deluxe reverb, or a subway rocket, but I prefer the sound of a small amp working hard to a large amp "ticking over".
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $225
Submitted 02/28/2002
at 07:37pm
by harry stefanyszyn
Email: harrymo at webtv<dot>net
Features
:
9
The amp was purchased new by me in March 1990. I had a problem with the inputs early on but the music store replaced it with a higher quality inputs under warranty and I haven't had a problem since. The features are great for studio use and home practice. I use the headphone feature all the time. I use a jack without a cord in the input to quiet the speaker and play thru the headphone input only.
Sound Quality
:
9
I play rock and blues and this amp works well with my style. I play a Strat Plus Deluxe with blue, silver and red Lace Sensors with this amp, my '57 strat reissu sounds a little thin going in w/o effects to fatten up the tone.
I don't care for the reverb much, though. It's not bad-just sounds a little small for my taste.
Reliability
:
9
As mentioned earlier I had problems with the inputs that was taken care of under the warranty. No issues since then.
Customer Support
:
9
They took care of the input problem-no complaint
Overall Rating
:
9
I've been playing since 1965 and have owned many amps over the years, this one is a keeper. If lost I'd replace it witout a doubt. This is one incredible amp bargain-buy one if you can! I might look for a snakeskin tolex variant because they look cool and are bound to be collectible in a few years.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $250 used
Submitted 01/02/2002
at 12:28pm
by Don Hindenock
Email: dhindenock at oal<dot>com
Features
:
8
Ultra-compact all tube combo with a standard Fender clean channel, Marshall-like overdrive channel, and spring reverb. There's also a headphone out, line out, & tape/direct inputs.
Sound Quality
:
9
I use it with a Fender lonestar strat. The amp has sweet clean & overdrive sounds with no hiss. The clean sound is almost identical to my bandmates Deluxe Reverb. The reverb isn't nearly as rich as the DR's, but sounds very good. I'd say that the Champ 12's reverb sounds more like the natural echo you get in a theater hall. The overdrive sounds like a vintage marshall cranked. It's impressively loud for its size & power rating, & is suitable for most club gigs. Best of all, you can crank it at manageable levels.
Reliability
:
9
I use this amp a lot because it sounds great and is easy to transport. I've never experienced any problems with it. I do however change the power tube ever couple of years, but a single 6L6 is cheap to replace.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
9
I've been playing for about 10 years. I also own a marshall half stack & a Johnson J-Station, which sounds awsome into the Champ 12's tape/direct inputs. I've been through several amps through the years, but this one has stuck around. It's hard to beat the tone that I get out of this pint size beast. It's definitely a keeper.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $225 used
Submitted 12/30/2001
at 04:38pm
by Ralph T.
Features
:
9
Great little amp with a classic Fender blackface clean channel, overdrive channel, & reverb. Plus it's all tube and has a nice sounding 12 inch speaker. It also responds very well to just about any pedal.
Sound Quality
:
10
I use an '82 American Strat with a SD little '59, single coil size humbucker, in the bridge position. I also use a Gibson flying V with classic PAF pickups. Both guitars sound wonderful through the amp. I get a nice range of spanky clean sounds, warm bluesy overdrive, to classic Marshall-like distortion with either guitar. This amp is very simple to use, and a real joy to listen to.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
It's a solid little tube amp. If anything just keep a set of spare tubes at hand.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
9
I've enjoyed over 12 years of semi professional guitar playing. I've recently become involve with home recording using a PC. This wonderful little tube amp gives me great tone at home & live. It's also the smallest big sounding amp that I've ever heard. Fender crammed a lot of nice tone into this very portable package. I also use a Line6 Pod for recording. The Pod works very well with the Champ 12. Just plug it into the tape inputs, right on the front panel of the Champ 12.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 12/01/2001
at 05:39pm
by Anonymous
Features
:
9
It has that vintage Fender clean channel, plus spring reverb & footswitchable overdrive. This amp is all tube too, except for a solid state rectifier. Also, this amp is loaded with other handy features like a tape input, line output, & a good sounding headphone out. It lacks an effects loop, but I've recently discovered that you can use the line out + tape in for this purpose. My biggest complaint is that it was difficult to set the tone controls to sound good for both channels. However, I got a mod from an amp guru named dan on alt.guitar.amps newsgroup that fixed this problem and made the amp sound unbelievable.
Sound Quality
:
10
I use an ibanez usa custom guitar with a dimarzio tonezone at the bridge & paf pro at the neck. It has a solid mahogany body, beautiful flame maple top, birdseye maple neck, and rosewood fingerboard. The 5-way 4-pole switch is wired to get humbucking & split coil (strat positions 2&4) sounds. The split coils, neck humbucker alone, and both humbuckers together positions all sound great on the clean channel. The overdrive channel screams with the bridge humbucker, but also works well with the other positions. You can dial in a variety of rock, blues, & modern crunch sounds on this amp. Anything from Brian Setzer spank to Blink 182. The reverb is very good too. I'm basing this review on my modded amp. In its stock form this amp tends to be too clean & bright on the clean channel, and the overdrive can be harsh if the tone controls aren't set right. In any case it still makes an outstanding studio amp. I'm sure you could gig with it too, as long as you mike it. I've even used it at private parties, without a PA! The trick is to put it at ear level, like on top of a stool.
Reliability
:
10
This amp has been very reliable considering all the abuse that it takes. It has been dropped several times, had beer spilled on it, and it has lasted through several gigs in which it was run wide open all night.
Customer Support
:
1
It's long out of warranty, and I don't think Fender supports its retired products. That's too bad because most of their new products can't hold a candle to their classics!
Overall Rating
:
10
I love to play guitar. I've been at it for almost 15 years. I got rid of most of my big gear, like a mesa rectifier stack & a marshall half stack, and have become a fan of ballsy little combo amps like this little gem. I haven't found any other small amp that has as much tone as my Champ 12. Besides I can get a great cranked marshall sound on the overdrive channel, at tolerable levels. I can easily get high gain boogie sounds using a distortion pedal in front of this baby.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $240 used
Submitted 11/29/2001
at 01:30pm
by D.F.S.
Features
:
8
Compact 1x12 all tube combo amp with volume, bass, treble, overdrive & spring reverb controls. It also has direct (tape) inputs which you can plug your favorite preamp into, a headphone out, & a line out that comes after the power section - great for recording.
Sound Quality
:
9
The clean channel alone can cover a wide range of sounds. This baby will play loud too! Overdrive & reverb just add to the flexibilty of this sweet little amp. It's great for practice, recording, & small venue gigs.
Reliability
:
9
The tube sockets are all chasis mounted & hard wired to the circuit boards. This is a great mechanical feature, because it keeps the heat away from the rest of the circuitry. Also, the reverb springs are mounted within the chasis, so you don't have to worry about damaging them. There is no standby switch, so tube life could be an issue, but I've never had a problem with this amp.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
9
I've been playing for about 11 years. I love the fact that this amp packs a lot of tone in a small package. I like it better than Mesa's Subway Blues, which is another giant killer. The Champ 12 would be a perfect 10 if it had an effects loop & separate tone controls for overdrive.
For you tweek heads out there, I came up with some cheap & simple mods that fatten up this baby nicely & balance out the two channels better. [This is not the same as the Torres mod]:
1. Remove C6 (750pf) & R11 (100k) - reduces clean channel brightness
2. Remove C26 (180pf) - reduces brightness more
3. Change R21 (220k) to 470k - makes the clean ch. break up sooner
4. Change C12 (.68uf) to 3.3uf. - increases the bass response
NOTE-1: You may find schematics at http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/
NOTE-2: Handle the circuit board carefully. The wires that connect to the tube sockets will break if they are bent around too much. I had to resolder a couple, but I was a bit rough with the board.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: 200 (GB pounds) used
Submitted 11/24/2001
at 02:11am
by Anonymous
Features
:
7
Already well dscribed , from the Fender schematic Ive seen it is rated at 10 Watts rms. Mine was made in Mexico not sure when .Compared to the Vox Cambridge I traded in this amp is a major leap forward in tone and as flexible .I play an Epiphone Sheraton 2 and the amp reveals tones which were missing before.The clean channel is very sweet ,overdrive great if abit lacking in range (considring getting a local amp specialist to putin the Dan Torres mod )
Sound Quality
:
9
Aa above .Class A simply sings .
Reliability
:
No Opinion
Cant say as yet ,very recently purchased , but is very well made and verly little hum/back ground noise .Still has Fender 12Ax7s (originals probabyl)6L6 replaced with Svetlana
Customer Support
:
7
Contacted Fender UK on acquiring the Champ ,found them very helpfull but were unable to date the amp .
Overall Rating
:
9
Magnificent ,looks great easy to move .useable at home and should be fine for small gigs.Spring reverb would be nice but fitted reverb is surprisingly good . An amp to trasure .
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $250.00 used
Submitted 11/21/2001
at 08:27am
by John Wilton
Features
:
7
Others have told you what it has. What it lacks is separate tone controls for the overdrive channel. The tape inputs & line out aren't important to me, but maybe they can be used as an effects loop?
Sound Quality
:
10
This amp will deliver a wide range of rock & blues sounds. You'll need a distortion pedal for harder stuff. I use a mesa v-twin pedal in front of her, with excellent results. A boss DS-1 & MT-2 also work well. The overdrive works well with low drive settings.
Reliability
:
8
Carry spare tubes & a fuse just in case.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
9
This is a great amp with that classic Fender sound. It's the only red knob Fender worth checking out. It is also the smallest 1x12 combo around. The sound is huge & full of great tone. I highly recommend it.
Product: Fender Champ 12
Price Paid: US $325 used
Submitted 11/20/2001
at 01:13pm
by Dan S.
Email: none
Features
:
8
Bass, Treble, Volume, Overdrive Gain, Overdrive Volume, Reverb, Tape Input, Line Out, Headphone Out, Footswitch. All tube design with 2 x 12AX7 & 1 x 6L6 power tube.
Sound Quality
:
9
The clean channel simply sings. It sounds beautiful with humbuckers, or a strat on positions 1, 2, or 4. You get that creamy singing fender sound that's great for blues, rock, or rockabilly. The reverb sounds warm & natural. The overdrive will sustain for days, but colors the tone quite a bit. However, you can tweek the Bass & Treble to correct it. I understand that Dan Torres has a cheap mod for this.
Reliability
:
10
I've used it for over 6 years with no problems.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
9
This amp gives you a nice rich fender sound in a small package. The 10 class A watts are loud enough to gig with. Get one before the prices go up.
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