Fender Pro Junior

New, 2006 Fender Pro Junior, made in Mexico. No real features to speak of, volume & tone controls only & 1 input; 1x10 speaker, 15 watts...all tube, 2-power, 2 preamp. I have the blonde version.

I use this amp for blues harp. I also own it's big-brother, '59 Fender Bassman Reissue, but needed something smaller & more portable for practice sessions and smaller jams & gigs. Read some great stuff about the pro jr. for harp, so I purchased one.

As harp-players know, you can't play this out-of-the-box...will feedback at like 1.5! Need to replace both preamp AX7 tubes with lower gain AU7 tubes. I used RCA NOS in the preamp, and you also need to make sure the power-tubes (they come with sovtek/fender EL84's) are as low-gain as possible. When I tried the JJ EL84's (which I thought would be am upgrade), they sounded thinner & terrible. Usually not a big sovtek fan for harp, but in this amp they sounded much better!

Anyhow, even with these tube mods, the amp will feedback around 6 (depending on my mic). I usually set the tone control on about 2.

The PROBLEM with this amp is this volume-level feedback threshold happens BEFORE you can reach the nice crunchy pre-amp overload sound that us harp-types are usually striving for!! The tone is just too thin on this amp & the amp is way-too hot for harp. It's even much hotter than my big bassman reissue!! The feedback ia an extra bitch to deal with. In order to obtain the deep, thick, gritty, chicago-blues, overdriven sound I was looking for (and expecting) I had to add
an attenuator (I use the THD 8ohm 'hot-plate"). This allows me to get the tube-overdriven sound I want without feedback, and without having to blast the volume to room-shattering levels (the amp is a VERY loud 15 watts!).

So good news, I finally achieved my sound from the Pro Junior, bad news; it took too much time, effort, and extra cost to do so (amp $250, tubes $40, attenuator $230...total cost = $520!). Not such an inexpensive little harp-amp after all!

Brand new, so no problems yet. Pretty solid though, except for the plastic inputs. Should come with tube--guards too!

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Very disappointing amp for harp use! I do NOT recommend it!

Maybe the older ones are better...otherwise; I have no clue how this amp ever got such a good reputation for harp use! Just way too hot and thin-sounding for harp. In my opinion, it's totally a guitarist amp, harp players needing a small amp would do much better with a an old Fender Champ, Silvertone, Premier, Masco, or something else that will actually CRUNCH without so much assistance!

Word to the wise...!

Blonde Pro Junior. Bought new mail order in Dec. 2005. On/Off switch, really cheap plastic input jack. volume and tone control. Any amp needs more than a single tone control!

This thing has a really crappy speaker and has no tone what so ever!!! You had better really like the tone this thing produces because thats all there is! It has a really nasty 60 cycle HUM which is most likely the tube heater. Yes I have changed tubes (twice) they sound ok in my friends Blues Junior so I know it is the amp itself. Yes I removed the middle screw (it didn't help). I purchased a Boss E.Q. pedal, and changed the speaker to an Eminence Rajun Cajun which makes the tone tolerable. I guess that since I had to spend $200 on an EQ pedal a decent speaker and new tubes I should have just spent the money on a better sounding amp.
I have listened to other pro juniors they all seem to have the HUM.

This thing is damn noisey!!!!!!! The tubes don't sit well in the incredibly cheap tube sockets! It has not broken yet but I am constantly wiggling the tubes around to get rid of the additional noise so I can just have the obnoxious HUM

I have beeen playing for 37 years .I currently have a great Fender Blues Deluxe. Have owned Marshall Roland Several other Fenders, Music Man, Crate, Peavey. I gave a Fender Frontman25 to my niece when I bought this one. The front man sounded much better. I might trade her for this one. DON'T let anyone ever tell you that a tube amp is the end all. Many of them sound great, but you need to listen and make your own judgement. This one is a tube amp and it sounds bad!!! I use it for practice but is is very uninspiring. If it was stolen I would kiss the ass of the thief. I would be able to find him to thank him by just listening for the loud HUM and lackluster tone

2005 Black Tolex Fender Pro Junior. Made in Mexico. 15 big tube watts. One volume control. One tone control. One channel. Two Sovtek 12AX7WCs (high gain) and a pair of Sovtek EL84s. That's it! This amp is just about as simple as it gets. As a bit of an audiophile, I was attracted to the simplicity of the Pro Junior.

I like that fact that this amp is simple, but c'mon, giving this amp a 9 or 10 in terms of features is silly. There is no versatility here.

Several people below stated that this amp has a very good "out-of-the-box" sound. WOW! I couldn't disagree more. The Fender Pro Junior has the worst out-of-the-box sound I've ever heard. Unbelievably harsh and fatiguing. In fact, I seriously thought about returning the amp.

I previously owned a Fender Frontman 25R amp. 25 watts, solid-state, distortion channel, reverb, three-band EQ, and a 10" speaker. I modified my Frontman with an Eminence Ragin' Cajun 10" to great effect. I traded the Frontman 25R in for the Pro Junior and kept the Ragin' Cajun speaker.

Back to the Pro Junior. 24 hours after I bought the Pro Junior, it was still sounding like crap. I installed the 10" Ragin' Cajun and the sound improved noticeably. It was still harsh, however. I suspected the stock Sovtek tubes. I have never heard a Sovtek tube I liked. I ordered a replacement set of JJ tubes from the Oregon-based eurotubes.com.

I can't believe the difference the JJ tubes made in the Pro Junior. Trust me, YOU MUST REPLACE THE TUBES IN THE PRO JUNIOR ASAP!! The stock Sovteks are truly the worst tubes I have ever heard. Where the stock Sovteks are harsh and gritty, the JJs are smooth, warm, and clean. You don't have to be an audiophile to hear the difference. The Sovtek pre-amp tubes also rattled whenever I played a certain note on the guitar.

The stock Pro Junior gets a 3 in terms of sound quality and the upgraded Pro Junior with JJ tubes gets a 10. I know that's quite a disparity, but in this case those numbers are justified. Again, you MUST replace the Sovteks if you're at all interested in sound quality.

Both the stock Sovtek and the High-gain JJ pre-amp tubes hum a bit. I have tried the amp with a lower-gain preamp tubes and it didn't hum as much. Still, I'm willing to live with a bit of hum because I prefer the sound of the high-gain tubes.

A note about biasing: many of the guys over at the Fender forum have said that the Pro Junior doesn't need to be re-biased when replacing the Sovteks power tubes with JJs. Eurotubes.com suggests the same thing. I have not re-biased my amp and I haven't suffered any problems with the JJ EL84s.

I cannot recommend the Pro Junior to potential buyers who do not intend on immediately replacing the tubes and speaker. Buy the solid-state Frontman 25R instead.

I have to take a few points off in this area. The volume knob on my amp is a little loose. It's not a big deal now but it probably will be at some point.

Otherwise, the amp seems to built reasonably well.

The Fender Pro Junior is a great value with upgraded tubes and speaker. The Pro Junior tube set from eurotubes.com is $36 + shipping. The Eminence Ragin' Cajun 10" speaker was $45 + shipping from avatarspeakers.com.

I have been playing guitar since the late-80s. I owned a Vox AC30 in the mid-90s and then switched to solid-state gear. For many years, I used the Morley JD10 direct recording pre-amp. The Pro Junior is the first tube amp I've owned since the Vox. Actually, the upgraded Pro Junior reminds me the Vox because both have the same tube compliment. I hope the Pro Junior doesn't cost as much in terms of maintenance fees per year.

Black Tolex version. Bought new. Hard to rate the features other than to say I love the simplicity. Volume and tone controls. 10" speaker. Two preamp tubes, 2 el84 power tubes. In a compact little frame, small cabinet. No frills but lots of action. Currently has stock tubes and speaker still in it. Loud and girthy for its size. I use it with an Sm57 in front of it for live use. But you don't need very much in the PA of a small to medium size club. This things got some umph to it. Volume goes to 12, starts to break up on me around 4 or 5, gets into some reall nice OD at 6-8, after this the volume doesn't increase much, but the distortion starts to really affect the signal. Some people have dismissed this area as unusable, but I kind of like it. The tone knob is really interesting. Sure it doesn't give you a whole lot of eq options, but if you like the basic tone of the amp, which I do, then the tone knob is great. Any position is usable: 0 is just a high cut, but it doesn't woof out. It just gets a darker musical tubey sound (best i could do on the sound description). Pegged, it just allows the highs to come through, but it doesn't get too brittle (a little though) and still retains its full character. Weighs 20 measly pounds and is like a cute little compact pit bull.

I play a mid eighties MIJ strat with Lace Sensor Silvers in the neck and middle. This amp really works well with this set-up. These pick-ups can really lack luster with some amps, but they love the PJ. Very responsive all of a sudden. They seem to run hotter with this baby but still retain their (relatively) noiseless, smooth character. And its like it was made for a strat. I used to love the 2nd pickup position between the neck and middle, but rarely have played through an amp that doesn't muddy this setting up. But its got classic strat character through this one. Some call this "chimey" I guess. Something like that. Anyway, I play a sort of weird blues-soul tinged dirty punkish rock. This amp is great. The small cabinet is great for what i do. Old school. I amtrying to foster a sort of old raunchy tube-driven sound and this has helped me define that. The breakup is so pretty. Smooth, really, really warm. And I personally love the fuzz that kicks in aroung 9 on the volume. I have been using a combination of eq pedals and a RAT and some various and sundry other OD/distortion units. But I am phasing them all out because the Pro Junior's natural distortion is a beefy sound that no pedal (at least in my price range) could emulate. I roll off the guitar volume when I need to clean it up a bit. I don't play too much clean in the context of my band, so I don't have an issue with the one channel. If you need clean, then I suppose you'd need to use a pedal to give you some gain when you need it. That being said, the clean sounds real nice. Warm. I keep using that word. But it is. And the amp seems to take to pedals well. I put an 808-modded TS9 tubescreamer in front of it and it was lovely. This pedal did not react well with the amp I had been using mostly prior to my PJ purchase, Peavey Classic 30. But it actually makes these tubes scream. The only pedal that I use that doesn't work well is my silly Digitech reverb pedal. Really exposes the digital imitation reverb quality. Gotta get something better ... The biggest revelation with the PJ is that I finally feel "Real Tube Warmth". Even with my 30 watt peavey, for all my practical uses, it was too loud to push past 4 or 5 and it had so much headroom that I couldn't really get any natural tube push and had to rely on pedals for overdrive. And it was never satisfactory. Not with the Pro Junior. You can really get these tubes hot and it sounds great. Finally. And it really augments my playing. Lots of sustain and harmonic character. Very musical.

So, its still got the stock guts. I'm planning on buying some JJ el84s because everyone seems to like these in the pro junior, but I really like the sound she has all-stock. We'll see.

Also, gigged with it for the first time last night. Sound guy was very appreciative. He said he loved how it sounded and loved being able to have control over the output in the house. So if you are concerned about the gig-ability of the pro junior, my take is, jump right in. Just a touch of PA in the house and its on. No monitor signal necessary. This baby is loud onstage. Of course I am running it at around 9 on the volume.

There is some hiss. Hence, one point off til I can get that resolved.

Bought it last week so I don't know. But relatively cheap construction aside, it is so simple that it might be possible to trouble shoot most issues by one's self. Unless the PC Board fries or something

Been playing for 20 25 years, since i was a kid. I would buy this amp again. Matter of fact i got my eye set on buying another one, run em stereo. Have only had it for a short time but I really love it. Compared to my Classic 30, it just is better. The Classic 30 has a nice clean, but it is brittle compared to the PJ's. And the Classic 30's OD channel is for shit, thin and lacking in beef for my taste. PJ has the best OD I've heard from a non-boutique amp. And it is so very portable. I gig in NYC regularly and the ease of tote is wonderful. Not to mention it seems to make sound guys (and girls) happy. And I prefer to make soundpeople happy. Know what I'm sayin? So, great for practice, great for gigs. It's really inspiring. I'm getting the sweats everytime I plug in now. Really likes Strats all you strat folk!

This is a black tolex version. It has volume and tone controls, an on-off switch, and the ability to connect to a different speaker cabinet, which I take advantage of. I would give the amp a "10" for features if it didn't have the tone control (i.e., less is more). The sheer simplicity of this amp is its beauty. The Pro Jr. has no reverb, but I've heard it said that "reverb is for cowards," so perhaps its omission is a blessing.

I use a '52 Reissue Tele and a Les Paul Standard with this amp, it sounds wonderful with both. The amp changes its complexion dramatically as its volume increases. Up to about 4, it delivers a pleasing clarity and fullness; the notes stand out easily. The amp starts to break up after 4, and by 5.5--particularly with the Les Paul and its humbuckers--the amp is distoring nicely. Nothing cheesy or synthetic: just honest tube-amp distortion. No guitar pedal can fabricate a sound like the Pro Junior produces when it's running hot and you're driving humbuckers through it.

From 5.5 to 12 on the volume scale, the amp breaks up even more, producing a Neil Youngish sound that coats the notes in bristling distortion. Very nice.

My only beef is that, even at 15 watts, the amp is too loud. I would love to summon the quality of natural break-up at 5.5 at half the volume. In the interest of achieving this effect, I bought a Weber MASS attenuator, but unfortunately, this device robbed the amp of some valuable tone (the MASS sits between the amp and the speaker, which is why I appreciated being able to easily disconnect the speaker from the amp).

So, I was disappointed that the MASS didn't deliver toneful natural distortion at reasonable volume. But, when I sent the line-out of the MASS into the clean channel of my Mesa Boogie Mark IV combo(essentially turning the Pro Jr. into a pre-amp) I got what I sought: reams of snarling, devil-made distortion and buckets of fist-pumping tone. Whatever tone the MASS removes from the loop, the Boogie injects back and then some. I have never heard a nastier-sounding rig; it's almost frightening.

This setup works best with humbuckers, and you can forget playing anything even remotely "clean." This Pro Jr.-MASS-Boogie combination is a one-trick pony that does its one thing exceptionally well. Practical for gigging? Two amps and a Weber MASS? Perhpas not, and it's certainly not practical if you want to do anything other than ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I had to replace the tubes right away because they were causing some noise and intermittent drop outs. I put in some Mesa tubes, and they tightened up the sound appreciably. I've not gigged much with the amp, but so far it's been reliable. Do I think it's as reliable as my Mesa Boogie? No. I KNOW the Boogie is going to work all the time. I don't have quite the same confidence in the Pro Jr. But so far, no major problems.

I've been playing since 1973, and I've owned a Marshall stack, a Fender Twin, a Garnet combo, a Peavy, and a Sears Symphonic that I bought for about $15 and still wish I had. I would without question buy another Pro Jr. were it stolen. Or maybe I'd just steal one from someone else. Whatever. The point is that it's an incredibly low-priced amp for its sound quality and build. In fact, it's likely one of the best guitar-amp values on the market.

I chose this amp because it was recommended by a professional guitarist who also produces bands and runs a studio. He's got two Pro Jr.s, and they do get used on rock 'n' roll albums with tremendously good results.

Volume and tone! What more could you possibly need? Well... not much in my humble opinion. I bought this amp because i didnt want some Marshall DFX piece of **** with flangers and phasers and delay... i wanted this amp for the simple fact that it is a simple amp with a great tone.

This amp sounds exactly how i want it to sound... it's clean and brilliant and when you turn it up it gets lovely and distorted and leaves a warm feeling.

After reading several reviews of people complaining about the hum and the rattle, one of the FIRST things i did was take out that damn screw! I wasnt going to give it a seconds thought.

I plugged in my Fender Jag, turned it up to about 5 and preceeded to wait for the sound to leak through. Man is it loud!

BRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNG

SO much louder than i thought it was going to be. I was almost certain it wasnt going to be loud enough but this thing is seriously loud for the size it is!

Perfect.

I've not had it long and i've not changed the tubes like everyone keeps going on about. It seems built nice and sturdy and weighs alot more than i thought it would.

I've not dealt with fender yet.

I've only played my Fender Jag through this and i'm really interested to hear what an old Telecaster might sound through it. I previously used a Marshall VS232. Which is some sort of "valve-state" amp with built in chorus and reverb... after messing around with the internals of that and putting it back together and it NOT working, i used that as a fine example to get a much better valve amp.

I'm so glad i did.

I would absolutly replace this if it were stolen or if i lost it.

2006
one channel no standby switch
suprisingly loud
i give it a 10 because i think if you added features it would take away from what this is- just plug in and play

sounds awesome out of the box
rock
the dirtiest tube amp i have heard from fender- why can't they make one like this at 30 watts
clean is ok but i love it when it satrts to push the tubes at like 3.5-sounds worse with effects
better with duncan pickups than with fender noiseless.

no problems yet

never had to deal with them

i want to get another one of these and run two at once
please fender make a 30-35 watt version, with a 12!!!!!

Volume & tone. The volume knob will control your distortion. I give it an 8 because the volume knob can take you from clean to distorted without much volume change.

Playing a nice stratocaster -
This is the best sounding amp I've ever owned! And in my 30 years of playing - I've owned a lot (all vintage handwired Marshalls & Fenders). Since I was a teenager I been trying to get that feeling in my gut that I felt listening to Jimi or Stevie. Power Tubes distorting just the right way. Printed circuit board, solid-state rectifier, cheap speaker...... I don't care! This amp is a powerhouse. I've spent thousand of dollar trying to get this tone, but for the past 10 or 15 year it was down the street for $300.
It's small, but, it's loud. Plenty loud enough to play bars. If your only playing blues/rock, It's all you need. IF you need to be pretty clean on some tunes you may need another higher wattage amp with it - and an ABY switch.
This amp also responds to pedals better than any other amp I've owned. I'm not a effects junkie at all. 95% of my playing I'm bypassing all effects. Whith this amp, your volume knob on your guitar alone is enough to take you from a Chuck beery rhythem to a Hendrix lead. But, if you can get your hands on some nice vitage pedals - Vox Wah & Fuzz Face - and add a clean boost pedal, your now in a place where many strive to be, but few arive - Jimi/StevieLand. This is a much better place to end up in than Neverland - where you may be melested by Mr. Jackson.
If you like the sounds of Jimi, Stevie, Page, Clapton, Buddy Guy..... and your using single coil pickups you need to buy this amp!

Two chicken head knobs. FOur tubes. Could not be simpler. No reverb - the one feature I wish it had. But then it wouldn't be a Pro Jr.
Don't know when this one was made. 2000?

I play a wide array of classic rock, alt-country and like styles through a variety of guitars, including a hollowbody Heritage 575, Epiphone Sheraton, Korean Gretsch Clone Shine 909, Fender 72 reissue Tele, Faded Les Paul. I bought this after learning that a lot of my favorite rock records were recorded using small, stripped down tube amps (Led Zep I etc.)
The Junior will break up nicely if you turn it up past about 6, but that's dang loud in a small room. You think 15 watts isn't a lot of power? Crank this thing. I use various OD and distortion boxes to get more crunch at sane volumes. This is mainly a practice amp, but i have gigged with it using a Shure SM57 and it's performed like a Champ.

Prior to swapping out the stock tubes, my Pro had a loud enough HUM! to be annoying, particularly when miked through a PA.

Here's the whole point of this review: The people who say this amp performs a lot better, and more quietly, if you swap out the stock Fender tubes and replace them with Electro Harmonix tubes are right. I just did it. The $%^&* Hum! is almost entirely gone. The tone, always good, is improved. The natural breakup/distortion seems to kick in nicely at a lower volume. I also took out the screw in the back plate that goes in just below the volume pot. Not sure if that was a problem, but removing it hurt nothing. I bought replacement E-H tubes (plus a spare 12AX7) for $43 at tubedepot.com. This simple move saved me hundreds I might have spent on some boutique low watt tube amp. Do Not buy groove tubes at Guitar Center. You'll pay double the price of the EH's and if you check out the comments on GT's you'll see that a lot of folks weren't happy they did.

Bought it used. Never contacted Fender. Swapped the tubes myself. It was easy.

This is a solid, good sounding practice amp for someone playing blues, classic rock, country or other styles where a clean tube tone is appropriate. Mike this to a decent PA, and get a couple of stomp boxes for effects, and this amp will handle a small club gig just fine. I'd love to own a boutique low watt amp, but this fits my needs and budget. If it were stolen, I'd probably get another.

10" speaker combo, power switch, power LED, vol, tone, input, speaker jack for any 8 ohm cabinet, tubes, 15 watts, tone

Thyese amps are NOT class A

CAn't beat eh bang for the buck with this amp. I now have two of them. I often run through a 2x12 open backed extension cabinet with celestio vintage 30s and the amp sounds great like this.

Just enough clean and great crunch when turned up. Cuts through the mix nicely in a band situation. Add an overdrive for extra saturation.

I just bought another one and it works fine. My original has seen a lot of gigs and I have not had a problem yet. Probably need to retube it soon.

Never delt with Fender

I have played a ton of amps including marshall, germino, matchless, carvin, dr z, numerous fenders and I keep coming back to this amp for live work. It allows me to turn up enough to work the power tubes without blowing people out of their seats.

Reviewing a 2003 (revision D) Fender Pro Junior. This amp has a single input, one volume and one tone control. These are the only features a blues player should ever need. The simplicity of this circuit is what makes it sound so good. The only faceplate omission is a second input which is useful for running simultaneous amps. Some people have been referring to this amp as Class A. It is Class AB in reality and therefore requires matched tubes.

I use strats and teles loaded with single coils. These are the only guitars/pick-ups I am familiar with and cannot comment on how this amp sounds with Les Pauls, Humbuckers, etc.....
This amp has a great sound for the price. No question. Resembles the tweed era Fender sound (as does the design). Given the market which Fender was targeting on this model, there are some very cheap components and design short-cuts. Most of these can be remedied within a $100 price range. The tubes are not high quality and will almost certainly rattle. I experienced this with both of my Pro Jrs and a Blues Jr. I used to own (reverb ruins tone). Also the speaker is cheap (what do you expect for $300). I installed a 10" alnico Jensen from my '66 Super Reverb and it sounds like a true tweed. The omission of a stand-by switch is a valid complaint. All tube amps should have a stand-by mode for longer tube life and Fender knows better.

In reference to the component quality mentioned above, there are some cheap factors here. The controls are ciruit board mounted and are easily broken. I broke both of mine four days after purchase (guess I'm too used to rock solid vintage gear). There isn't much room inside to change the pots, but I think some of the smaller diameter 'real' pots will fit. Also the tube sockets are ciruit board mounted and, as with any ciruit board amp, a hard knock can crack the board.

Haven't dealt with Fender. Have always owned vintage gear.

For the price this amp can't be beat. I, for one, appreciate the fact that Fender is the only company making a no-feature tube amp in this price range. It is not a versitle amp. Anyone who buys this amp should be interested in tweed-era tones of tube distortion and saturation. Also, don't buy this amp if you are a reverb junkie. I used to be, until I discovered how much better my tone is without reverb or tremolo in the ciruit. My playing was also greatly improved once I ditched the reverb crutch. If you like SRV or Danny Gatton remember that they had all of the reverb physically disconnected on thier amps. You don't need to sound like you're in Carnegie Hall to sound good.

Mine is a 2002 made in Mexico Pro Jr fitted with 12AU7 tubes. The output tubes are stock.
Simplicity? Well, a single input, a single volume knob and a single tone knob makes for simplicity. Yet it doesn?t come anywhere near the simplicity OR the tone of my DIY 5F1 Champ, which is an absolute wonder of simplicity. I always turn the tone down to 0 which, I reckon, means the tone circuit is not engaged at all. So what little features the amp has don?t do me no good and I could just as well do without them.

I use it for blues harp with a Green Bullet and an MXR Micro Amp stomp box.
There is a number of mods you can do to the PJ to improve its tone further for harmonica, but all I?ve done so far is the tube swap. Changing the preamp tubes to 12AU7?s improved the harp sound IMMENSELY lowering the overall power and knocking off a lot of excessive treble. I always turn the tone all the way down to 0 and still I would like more lows (or less highs?). I?m curious to hear what the various schematics mods suggested to me by my amp tech can do to the sound.
As you?re probably beginning to understand I?m not overly impressed with the tone. It sounds too clean and lacks the tube amp character that you want when playing blues harp. I have to run the microphone through the MXR Micro Amp stomp box to drive the amp into distortion, but then to avoid feedback I must turn the volume down and any tube amp has to be pushed a little to sing. This should be done not primarily by pushing the input signal but by pushing the tubes. Operating at too low levels the amp just doesn?t get very tubey.

I changed the original plastic input jack to a metal switchcraft jack before even taking the amp from the store. Having changed hundreds of broke down plastic jacks, my amp tech told me he couldn?t understand how Fender could put such a weak input jack onto this otherwise great little amp. Neither can I, though, in retrospect, I?m no longer convinced it is ?a great little amp?, and the cheapo jack isn?t the only thing in need of replacement/improvement here.

The white text and numbers on the panel began peeling off as soon as I started using the amp, and I haven?t even been taking it to gigs yet. This is a relatively cheap amp, but this shouldn?t happen, especially not so short after purchase.

The tube sockets seem a little cheesy too, being soldered right onto the circuit board. Time will tell what they?re up to.

Never dealt with them.
One year warranty.

Being a tube amp it needs a little cranking to begin kicking and since I have not used it out, i.e. have not cranked it yet, I believe and hope that it has not yet revealed it?s true self to me. But it hasn?t by far fulfilled my expectations. All you guys giving the PJ such high rates, what have you done to your amps? Or is it just that the PJ is better suited for guitar than for harp? Lots of sources on the www claim the PJ to be the best option if you?re looking for a good sounding, tube harp amp and don?t want to spend a fortune on a vintage Fender Tweed. The PJ has yet to convince me on that one! A solid state to tube rectifier conversion (as described by Gerald Weber) and some additional circuit surgery might help, but then it is no longer a Pro Jr, is it? I?ll get back here with a new review when I?ve done the modifications. Until then, save your money or get a tweed style amplifier DIY kit instead!

Very simple, tube amp. One input , volume, and tone. 15watts, 10 inch eminance speaker. Might be nice if it had reverb, but that might take away from it's simplicity. Sometimes less Is more! I like classic rock styles, blues, love Neil Young's electric thing. This amp is so cool. It can do the above quite well. Does NY very well with the help of an overdrive/booster , and a reverb peddle.This amp was purchased new. Made Mexico 2005.

I use a mid 80's Japanese strat. Nice axe. Three single coil pickups. Not noiseless. Going straight into this amp, sounds nice . Very nice clean tone with volume under 5. At 5 and beyond it starts to saturate into a nice classic rock/blues tone. Use the guitar volume to control the drive, if you will. Dial up the tone pots on the guitar, and you can get that fender chime. Run the guitar through some kind of overdrive , boost unit and wow this thing sounds fantastic. Don't get me wrong, I love the amp with the guitar plugged straight in, great classic tones and all, but when I'm in the mood, some overdrive/boost works. As far as the hum issue mentioned in previous comments, yes there is a hum plugged in or not, volume up or not, its there. The suggestion to back out the screw on the back behind the volume pot to get rid of the hum! IT WORKS! This thing is loud! Holds up no problem and then some with full drum kit in my basement. I think you could gig with it in the right situation. Certainly a small club, coffee house type place.

Had this amp a few months , no problems so far.

Have never had to deal with Fender. Dealer I got it from are good guys, i'm confident they would help me if needed.

Playing 30 years , with the exception of a few years not, when the kids were very young. Have a couple of acoustics, Martin, Yamaha. The electric is a mid 80's Japanese Fender Strat, called a Contemproary Strat. Very nice through this Pro Junior. I've been through 4 different amps prior to the Fender PJ. I feel alot of people buy way too much amp for their needs, or more amp then they can use. For the average guy who loves to play, and likes more classic/blues type tone, and really very good tone I might add, this Fender PJ is perfect.You can crank this amp up and let it do what it's supposed to . Compared PJ to the Blues junior. Same 15watts but to my ears PJ wins hands down. Less dials to fiddle with, just plug in, turn it on and turn it up! Easy to carry around. Looks cool.

Volume and tone controls, simple and all you need.

I have had my Pro Jr for 2 years now. I still love this little beast. Great cleans and then crank that volume knob for some excellent overdriven crunch. I mainly play humbuckers and P 90's. My settings are volume on 9, tone on 7 and use the guitars volume knob for boost along with a Blues Driver for additional boost. This amp loves any type of pedals!

If you want even more amazing cleans, use an Aphex guitarXciter. Wonderful pedal!

I got no buzz from the middle screw only the traditional class a hummmm. Please remove the stock tubes asap. My preamp tubes were buzzing within the first week. Electro Harmonix pre amp tubes seemed to be very quiet.

I use this amp all the time. My daughter spilled a glass of water on it and I feared the worst. I used a hair dryer to dry it out and waited for 5 days before I turned it on and..........it was fine!!

No need yet, 5 year warranty is great.

I am 50 years old and have been playing since I was a kid. This is a great little amp. I have never plugged it into a 2x12 or 4x12 but I bet it would sound great.

For only $299 this is a great value in my opinion.

15w valve amplifier with a 10 inch fender speaker, 2 preamp valves and 2 power amp valves. Volume and tone controls. Simple. On it's own you will only be able to get clean sounds to rock sounds but no metal sounds. Enough features for me though.

This amp has loads of volume, it sounds more like 30w than 15w. When volume is below 5 you get a great clean sound ideal for jazz and country and maybe clean punk. Put the volume past 5 to start to drive the valves and go into blues and rock areas, it's warm and crunchy. This is the perfect rock tone for me. As there is only one tone knob you can't get much but it does a good job by itself giving you toneless tones to trebley ones. Sounds valvey.

Still got same tubes after a year and it still sounds fine.

A great rock amp, isn't very versitile but for me and everyone like me it's a 10. Also a great price. I've used a distortion pedal on this and you can get metal easily out of it that way

My Pro Junior is a cream colored maroon grill cloth style.I used to own a cream colored Fender Twin Amp and this gives me the look I miss!I just bought the amp from Musicians Friend and so it must be 2005.1 input,i volume,1tone all you need.Reverb and delay can come from other pedals and really make this amp shine!I use this amp for open mic blues jams and will use exclusively for playing out with my electrics.

I use a 1991 left handed Gibson Les Paul Standard and a SX Stratocaster style guitar.Both of these guitars sound fabulous through the Pro Junior!This amp is a blues amp and can be turned down for a sweet volume of jazz as well.It does hiss at louder volumes but if you are going to turn it up expect that.I was told to turn down some at my last blues jam and my amp was sitting next to a Fender Blues DeVille!We used the amp for harmonica with a Ruskin mic and I played the Les Paul later for the guitar jam.Wow!The amp accomodated both instruments beautifully!A good seeting for me is Volume 5-6 tone 5.After 6 look out!Plenty of blues crunch!

This amp is very well made.Mexican made but I looked in the chassis and it looked every bit or better than a vintage Fender tweed.Especially reliable since it is new and not vintage which can require a lot of maintenace.I would probably have another amp around anyway when playing out but this Pro Junior looks like it could take many hours of play.

Fender is big.I'm sure you can reqach them but have not needed them at this time.My vintage amps are serviced locally by other companies.
The 5 year warranty sounds good.

35+ years on the guitar off and on.Lessons back in the day and progression from pop,to rock,southern rock,and total blues these days.I have a 1965 Fender Vibro Champ amp,Fender Frontman 25R,and a small Orange Crush 10.One for recording, one for back-up,and the Orange for fun!I do use a few pedals.I really like the Digitech RP50 with some tweed and early british plexi settings. Also get some nice reverb types and nice delays.Also have a MXR Phase 90, original CryBaby Wah Wah,vintage reissue ProCo Rat for added boost to leads,
and a MXR Noise Gate if I want the hiss to stop.The Pro Junior is the amp to play and work with.I did change the Fender EL84's with some JJTeslaEL84 tubes.Way better sound.The Fender Sovetek 12AX7's work for now.The Fender eminence vintage ceramic speaker is nice.I'm sure you could swap out toWeber or Jensen but I like what is coming out of the amp right now.
I read reviews and had to try this amp.I did consider a Blues Junior but this Pro Junior has that 1950's circuit sound, easy to move, cool looks, and absolutely enough blues power.Through the years I've owned these Fender Amps.1966 Princeton Reverb,1969 Deluxe Reverb,1967 Bassman piggy-back,1962 Twin Amp,1972 Vibro Champ,1995 tweed Blues Deluxe,1994 tweed Pro Junior, and a 1962 tweed Champ.I like Fender.I grew up with Fender.This Pro Junior is the amp I want for my sound!

I Love the Amp!! I wanted that nice 'warm' tube sound, but didn't have a lot of money to spend, and didn't want that crunchy cold 80s solid state sound.

THE MAIN REASON I AM LEAVING FEEDBACK ON HERE ABOUT THE AMP IS THE BUZZ PROBLEM.
I also bought the amp, brought it home, and noticed the 'annoying buzz'. I bought it a year ago, but it did it from day one.

What the guy posted at the top about backing the middle screw out a little bit REALLY WORKS!!!!! No joke!! I was just getting ready to take it in for repairs since I am getting ready for recording with it.

OVERALL, you SHOULD buy this amp!! It's clean and warm. Leave the effects to the pedals, just go with a clean tube feel.

Even after the buzz problem, I still think this amp is great for the money. Heck, bring a phillips head screwdriver to the store and back the middle screw out until the buzz is gone if you hear one. It really works!!!

I didn't want to remove the screw completely, but you don't have to remove it. Just turn it until it's out a little bit. I agree though with a previous post!!! Hopefully Fender knows about the screw issue and how it relates to the buzzing. It would solve a lot of return issues I'm sure.

My amp is a 1995 USA blonde. It has one channel, no effects, purely a tone machine. its got a volume knob, and a tone knob. to get distortion you have to turn up the volume. if you want clean, then simply turn down the volume.

I mainly play rock, alternative, blues, jazz, and church music. It suits my style perfectly. the distortion sounds awesome!!! clean sounds very nice, (fender clearn, what can I say?) the distortion is very full, not some cheap thin distortion. I LOVE IT!!!
its a 15 watt... but clearly it sounds much larger than that!!! trust me!

Very reliable. atleast mine is! the 90s pro junior were made in the US. so pretty darn reliable. NO PROBLEMS YET!

never had to deal with them.

WORTH THE MONEY! SMALL AND COMPACT, EASY TO CARRY AROUND!!! PURE TUBE SOUND!! AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!!! I'm SERIOUS!!!!

This is a 15 watt, all tube, one channel, two knob combo built in 2002. I feel, like a lot of other reviewers, that this amps simplicity and tone potential are its major strong points... and being that it is class A and quite loud (but not SUPER loud) it is GREAT for hitting that "sweet spot" between clean and crunch and using picking dynamics and the guitars volume knob (and a couple of tube-screamers at time too) to EXPRESS your soul! I use this amp on open mike nights at local coffee houses and I use this amp when I jam with my band in clubs... so for what I do it is extremely versatile... for some one who is a gain God... your gonna need some pedals... this is pure warm tube clean or od in the same setting (its all in the way you hit the strings!)

I use a 1994 MIM Stratocaster with Fender Noiseless PU's and this amp LOVES that guitar... I play styles ranging from reggae and funk, to blues and jazz, to classic rock... Hendrix style! This amp is not noisey at all and sounds great on any setting of the volume knob. I put in some new el84's that have a "late" distortion when I got it so I can turn my amp up to about 8 before it is just dirty, not "sweet spot" clean while soft picking as mentioned above. After 8, it still sounds great but that's what I have tube-screamers for to push the amp into 9-12 territory when I need to... set up in the right way, a tube-screamer or two puts me into that Hendrix controled feedback type of lead tone... it is amazing! The amp was noticable louder with the new tubes and being that I've had it for a couple of years I think that everything has "broken in" really well. This thing is a tone machine especially for the price! I like it way more than both the Blues Jr. I used to have and my buddies HRDx which is WAY WAY too loud at the clean/od "sweet spot"! I will say that the HRDx does sound really good, its just way to loud for me... and the Blues Jr. was good too but mine had a HORRIBLY loud reverb hiss. That being said, I think the Pro Jr. is a GREAT amp for any skill level and most any volume level... club owners and sound guys LOVE it when I walk through the door with this 'lil beauty! Not many clubs that I know let you get your power tubes cooking with a larger watt amp and thats what it is all about- hitting the "sweet spot" at an appropriate volume level.

No problems here. It shipped with shitty power tubes but after I swaped them out, everything has been great... the pre tubes are all stock... the speaker is stock... it has ALWAYS been there for me... that being said, I never gig without extra tubes! But tubes are not a reliability issue- they are a maintainence issue.

Don't know? Five year warrenty I guess?

I'm 27 years old and have been playing for 11 years... if this were lost I would definately grab another one. I love everything about this amp... that being said, go out and try one and bring YOUR guitar and if you like it buy one... it is important not to buy these on just reviews... go try it! Another thing to remember, if you play a floor model, it is probably gonna be "broken in" more than the one in the box. When mine came out of the box, it did not sound as nice as it does now... it does get better with age but the fundamental tone is exactly the same. So give it some time to settle in (4-5 months) if you get one brand new. After that, happy playing!

Made in Corona Ca, love the simplicity of 2 knobs, thats why I bought it, reverb would probably suck tone if it were there, I give it a high rating because it has the features I am looking for, as few as possible.

Sounds killer through my '97 USA Strat with Custom Shop '69 pickups, as well as my '92 Danny Gatton Telecaster with Joe Bardens. Super loud for such a small cabinet, starts breaking up at about 4.5 volume, really doesn't need reverb but if thats what you want get a Blues Junior. I use it for dirty/clean blues and thats where it really shines. Plenty of grind, if I need slightly more I will run my Barber LTD low gain overdrive or my Tonebone classic through it. Have had none of the above problems mentioned yet. Tried my EH Holy Grail reverb with it and did not like the sound, although the EH reverb sounds great through my Fender Custom Shop Blues Breaker.

No problems yet, and I bought it used.

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Playing 27 years, besides the above mentiones guitars I also have a 2002 Gibson ES-335, a 1977 Ibanez ES-175 copy, 2001 Fender Custom Shop Blues Breaker with British made Celestion Vintage 30's and an Ampeg SS150 combo (sweet solid state amp). Traded my Epiphone Galaxy 10 amp for this one, the Epi has more features but suffers in good tone. Have owned the Blues Junior and was not happy with its tone, but this little monster has tone to die for. Strongly reccomend getting this if you have a Real ear for tone.

This is an update to the review below about the broken pot shaft and knobs. Took it to the dealer (Joe's Music, Eastpointe, Michigan); I assumed the repair would be covered under warranty for defective parts. Rob the amp tech said he seriously doubted Fender would cover it as it came under the "broken" category, but if I wanted he would try to make a case and suggested I call Fender and do the same. Bother. Alternative number one was that he could charge me half the bench rate plus parts for the repair (a good deal), OR.. he could replace the pots and the plastic input jack with metal parts, all nutted to the chassis and hardwired to the PCB. They would guarantee the work, and the Fender warranty would still apply to any other non-related problems. I got the amp back 2 hours and $75 later. Good solid work, I'm a happy guy. This is how the amp should have been built in the first place! Now I'm keeping it. Many thanks to Rob and Joe!

I think mine is a Mexican made one from about 2002.
I've had it about a year and 4 months, and I think I'm the 2nd owner.
I mostly play blues and jangly folk-rock sounding stuff for
singing accompaniment.
And mostly at home. So it has more than enough power,
but I like the fact that if I do want to take it to a jam,
it has the power to keep up.
At first, I missed the extra controls, but now, I like the simplicity.
Less knobs to get bumped off the proper setting.
I wish it had come with better tubes, but if it had more features,
it would be more expensive. It's kind of a Volks-amp!
I see the simplicity as being a feature in itself, so I'll give it
an...

I have 2 MIM Standard Strats. One maplenecker with a DiMarzio Virtual
Vintage DP402 neck pickup(loud!) and a Duncan JB Jr. at the bridge, stock middle at the moment, and Hendrix mod.
The other has a rosewood board and has an older iteration of the 57-62
pickups in the neck and bridge positions, and an HS-3 in the middle.
I also have an early '90s Hamer Slammer superstratoid with a normal
Strat bridge, a DiMarzio VirtuAL 2 middle pup in the neck position,
an old Bill Lawrence (real Bill!) split rail in the middle and a stock
humbucker at the bridge.
All three guitars sound great through the Pro Jr. and it suits my blues lead and jangly folk-rock style very well.

When I got the amp used, it had <both> the dreaded hum, AND the
rattle. The hum was solved by a JJ ECC82 in one of the preamp
positions. I use an Electro Harmonix 12AX7, usually in the first
position. If I put the higher gain Electroharmonix first,
I get a more bluesy tone, if I put the JJ ECC82 first, I get
a crisper more country tone. I have tried 2 JJs in the preamp,
but I found the sound too "hi-fi" for my taste.

The rattle was harder to track down!
I tweaked the power tube retainer bracket and springs,
tried removing them, stuffed aluminum rod from a hobby shop in
the springs, still there!
I bought new Sovtek EL84s, still there!
(ironically, the production date on these was a year older
than the stock Sovtek power tubes)
It wasn't until I changed the power tubes to JJ EL84s that it went
away! (and the tone is better too!)
Later I was reading in a Lord Valve newsletter that Sovtek
EL84s from that era (2001-2002 if I remember correctly)
have an inherent flaw that causes plate rattle!
When I go to the local Fender Dealer, I try guitars through
the (brand new) Pro Junior, of course- AND IT HAS THE SAME RATTLE!
DITCH THE SOVTEK EL84s! AND FENDER SHOULD TOO!
A friend has tried EI (Serbian) EL84 tubes in his PJ and likes them too.

BTW, I checked for the top middle screw phenomenon mentioned elsewhere
in the reviews, but mine already had the top middle screw amputated to prevent it. Just out of curiosity, I put a longer screw in,
and sure enough HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

I recently tried different speakers, and I have to agree
the stock speaker (Eminence?) is very blah.
So far I have tried a Celestion 10 (relabeled Fender 60w, probably a v10) in an external cabinet, and love the tone, but it is not
that responsive. Really growls nice on power chords or boogie rhythms,
though. It also drops the volume of the amp a bit, so I can turn
up the volume and let the tubes work harder for better tone.
I recently swapped the Jensen reissue from my Behringer
Vintager into the Pro Jr., and it is <very> responsive, but just
a little metallic. I'm thinking of buying an Eminence Ragin Cajun
(Patriot series) since it mentions it being very touch sensitive and
responsive, hopefully w/o the metallic quality.
With the Celestion, I can turn the volume up, and above 7, it
doesn't really raise the volume, but really changes the nature
of the sound... this is really the amps overdrive setting,
which I really don't get to use much, so I tend to use various
OD pedals on clean boost. I have used a Boss BD-2 Blues Driver,
a Boss SD-1, stock and with 2 changed capacitors, and a Johnson
TOD-9, also with 2 changed capacitors.
I also tried a Tubeworks (actually Butler with the funny button)
Tube Driver through it at a store, and it gave it a wonderful
dark bluesy sound.
At least in stock condition, it <did not> like Ibanez Tubescreamers,
maybe because it's pairing a midrangey amp with a midrangey pedal.
Stock, this amp is a bit blah, and probably buzzy due to the Sovteks.
You can get a great variety of sounds with tube and speaker swaps,
though. Since it is not a 10 as it comes from the factory,
I will give it an ....

So far I have never had a problem with it,
EXCEPT the hum and tube rattles.

Oh yeah, before I sold my 2 humbucker guitar,
the stock speaker made a short nasty noise for a little bit.
I wouldn't expect the stock speaker to survive very long with
humbuckers.
Because of the noisy Sovteks, and the cheap speaker,
I give it a...

I bought it used, so I have not dealt with them.
One of the reasons I bought it though is because
it is such a common amp, and so there is quite a bit
of support in that respect from other users, and the
amp is well known to amp techs and tube gurus.

I've been playing guitar since 1966. Most of that was acoustic,
although I did have a Fender Mustang and Pro Reverb amp in high school. I had about a 6 year break from playing guitar due to a
finger injury, then realized I could still play nylon string guitars
and electrics strung with lighter gauge strings. I have
been playing electric blues for about 5 years now.
If it were lost or stolen, I would very likely get another one,
although I might replace it with a silverface Champ, which
gets great overdrive, but at lower volumes than the Pro Junior.
I love the PJ's great bang for the buck, the simplicity, the light weight(I have a bad back).
I have a love/hate relationship with how LOUD IT IS!
Not a good choice for late night practicing, so I have
held onto my Behringer GM-110 Vintager for that.
The Behringer also edged out the PJ for the church praise team
gig I did for 2 years cause I didn't have a suitable mic for the PJ
and the church was so small, and the Behringer has a DI out which
made setup easy.
BTW, the Pro Jr. and the Vintager sound excellent together
in stereo chorus with the Vintager on Tweed setting!
For a gig capable tube amp, in it's $200 to $300 dollar price
range, there is really no competition except it's brother
the Blues Junior(used about $300)... oh yeah, maybe a Pignose, but a used one I tried had some scarey problems! I would also consider
a Tech 21 Trademark 10 or 30 as a supplement to the Pro Junior,
and the Trademark 30 as a backup.
If you like the Pro Jr, but want more features, try a Zinky Blue
Velvet- Bruce Zinky designed both amps!(He worked for Fender a while)
The Blue Velvet also has better low volume overdrive,
but is of course quite a bit more expensive
As some have said, the Pro Jr. is a one-trick pony but oh what a trick! Actually that's not totally true, with tube and speaker swaps,
it can do lots of tricks, just not at the push of a button.
I could see keeping a half dozen small speaker cabinets (1x10,1x12,
or 2x10) loaded with different speakers to give it different flavors.
Or a 2nd Pro Jr. with a totally different set of tubes and a different
speaker, and a pan pedal or A/B box connecting them.
Even though I haven't given it higher than an 8 in any category,
this amp is somehow greater than the sum of it's parts,
and so I will give it a ...

I've had the amp about a year. I have a number of vintage and newer tube amps, I'm happy with the tone, lots of volume. Only play in my music room for my own amusement, don't gig.

This is why I'm writing the review. PLASTIC POTS. I baby all my gear. This amp sits, covered, in it's own little protected nook in my music room. It never moves. Normally I never tweak the tone control; tonight I'm practicing, decide on a little more treble, grab the tone control and it came off in my hand. The pot shaft was broken up inside the knob, and the knob had a split right through the middle. The little plastic skirt on the bottom of the knob was cracked off and broken. I pulled off the volume knob, lo and behold, it had also split down the middle. I used to have a Behringer amp, it too had plastic pots that broke; this amp has been well-protected so that this very thing would not occur. Tomorrow it goes back to the music store for repair (under warranty), then it probably goes away. As much as I like this amp, I've had it with the plastic crap.

We'll see.

Would I buy another one? Nope. This is a quality amp in every respect except in this regard. You want to mount pots to a PCB board, at least use metal pots and design it so the pots are nutted to the control panel. How much extra would it cost? Ridiculous. I'm already looking for a replacement, probably something vintage. I always wanted a Fender amp. Now I know better.

Corona USA built 1-97.10"speaker,1volume,1tone.No reverb.15watts.

When I first tried this amp I was a little disapointed in its overall sound quality.Being a C.E.T.,I wanted to see what could be done.The bass was too flubby sounding with no chunk.To tighten up the bass,I changed r-4 to a 2.7k and bypassed it with a.47mf filter.Also do this with r-11.Youll get more dynamics and clarity.This amp also runs too hot with the bias at -10 volts(my amp measured- 8.5 volts).To get longer output tube life and less hum change r-29(15k)to18.k.The bias will be at around -12v.Also the two green filament wires that go to the tube circuit board should be twisted together.Unsolder just one wire and give them about one twist per inch ,resolder.Hum will be lowered.Also add a standy switch between the bridge and the main filter caps.The tubes will last longer because they wont be shocked every time at turn on.(They should have the 6.3vfilaments on for at least 20 seconds before appling main b+ voltage of around 330v on this amp). I did these changes ,greatly improved little amp!

Ill take this guy anywhere now!I also have a celestion speaker(v10-60)loaded in it.

I got this amp on a trade.So I didnt get to mail in a card.

I also have a 64 fender deluxe(no reverb)A 71 fender pro reverb, fender m-80 and mesa boogie studio preamp.They all have minor tweaks done to them.I like the pro jr because of its tweed style circuit and small size big sound.

i'm not sure what year was my amp made, but definitely made in usa. easy to use, only 1 volume & 1 tone knob, easy to change tubes from the back! if it features a built-in reverb, it would be perfect!

i'm usually using a gibson es-175 (1997) & an ibanez af-120 for hollow body jazz sounds! i do also plugged in my les pauls & steinberger gl4t & gl2t to test it! all i can say is, the sound comes out extremely jazzy & bluesy! it delievers the warmth nicely out from the stock 1x10" speaker.

i don't see there will be any problem as long as the amp is not being abused. one problem that i have is, the stock 12AX7 tubes (2 of them) are extremely noisy! i spent a few bucks to purchase new tubes from eurotubes.com & now it is cool!

i never called for customer support for any product at all...so far!

i'll definitely buy another one (u.s. made) if my current one is stolen or broken down by my dog. i love the sound, the compact size, and the way it looked too! 15W is loud enough at home or pub gigs, easy to crank up for home recording. i don't know when will i have a chance to turn on my other amps now since this amp works great at home for practice & recording...! dollar to dollar, i still rate it 10 points eventhough it's not perfect!