Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 10/22/2008
at 08:42pm
by P-Dawg
Features
:9
I have no idea when it was made, but as far as I can tell, from 2004 to 2008, since discontinued. Features are mentioned ad nauseum in all the other reviews, it does have a plywood cabinet. Mine came with Ruby Tubes EL34s. What's with the name "El Diablo?" why not just call it "the Demon" or "Beelzebub" or "Satin"
Sound Quality
:6
Well, this is where I had problems. The EL34s sounded thin and dark. is that even possible? Very weak sounding in the clean channel. My Deluxe Reverb is twice as loud, rated only 22 watts vs 60 watts for this? The clean channel could not provide even a hint of breakup for a slightly overdriven bluesy tone, not possible even with gain dimed. So why is there a gain channel on the clean channel? Half the knobs on this amp do little or nothing. Yes, smart-*****, I read the manual and spent hours trying to dial in the tone, and yes I tried 6L6s too wise-*****. The gain channel is by far the best channel here, with the vintage/modern switch doing the exact same thing as the compressed/dyanamic switch. However, I belive this amps' overdrive circuit to be transistor and here's why. There are only 3 preamp tubes. We know this makes the reverb circuit digital, so rule out tube-driven reverb. One tube for the phase inverter, now we have digital reverb and only two preamp tubes left. One for the clean channel and one for the gain channel - that's it. Transistor distortion. I was floored when I dialed in the sound I liked, put my Rat in front of the clean channel, and almost fell over - they sounded identical. - transistor! So, a dark, weak, clean channel and a transistor-based distortion channel. Trust me - I wanted so bad to like this amp - but could not find a tone I couldn't get with a $50 pedal. The cabinet also boomed when using my Les Paul, and sounded harsh when cranked - just like a transistor amp, sounded like it was clipping, not breaking up like a tube amp should. The built in compressor is very nice, but I have a pedal for that too.
Reliability
:5
Built like a tank, and weighs as much as one. However, mine popped and squeled like a stuck pig upon shutdown. Hmm.. Power supply? I would explain a lot.. I probably just got a lemon.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
I have heard nothing but good things, but I didn't like so the tone, so I didn't persue getting it checked out.
Overall Rating
:5
I used 3 strats - all American, both vintage and modern, two semi-hollow body PRS's, and my LP. Sorry, but I could not find a good tone that my other amps did not have using pedals. That could be my problem, my Marshall JTM 45 sounds so much brighter and crisper than is, like night and day, it has EL34's too and I love that amp. The distortion sounds great, but nothing unique or botique. Mine went back, and I know the next reviewer will say, "he didn't know how to use the tone controls." Bite Me. I know 12:00 is neutral and left is dialing out bass, treble, or mids, turning right (that would be clockwise) dials in +/- up to 15 db. I simply could get past the weakness of this amp. I know I am pissing a lot of people off right now, but get over it. Tone is very subjective, I just didn't find any "mojo" with this amp. I find it hard to beleive it is 60 watts, it is not loud enough to gig with as others here have stated.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 09/01/2008
at 04:36pm
by Clark
Email: hamdorf at charter<dot>net
Features
:10
2 channels with multiple tone options. Perfect amount of features and control. I'm not going to go knee deep into what it has available...This is an amp you should try before you buy. It operates very differently from most traditional amps but, doesn't go "over the top", in my opinion. If you just want volume and tone...? There's plenty of nice amps out there with minimum features. This ain't one of 'em! Lots to play with!
One feature I really like is the EL34/6L6 option. Plug 'em in, bias using the handy-dandy settings provided in the manual, and off you go! I don't think one type of tube is better sounding than another. To me, it's just an additional tone option. I believe the 6L6's reduce the power to around 50/25 watts output and have bit more of an edge to them. I love the EL34 clean sound but, I'm using NOS 6L6's right now. I could get bored and change them at any time. Just because...
Sound Quality
:10
This thing sounds absolutely amazing! I've had it for several years and had plenty of time to mess around with it's tone shaping possibilities. Although, setting every knob to 12:00 won't let you down, you might want to go easy on the master volume...It's a VERY LOUD amp!
The tone controls don't opperate in any Marshall/Fender type of way. These controls work in a sort of, parametric EQ fashion. Very interactive with large amounts of cut and boost available. Awesome reverb, too!
Example: You can cut the mids and crank the bass and treble on the dirt channel and get a "metal" sound. But, if you spend time with the shaping features, you would be able to optimize the sound better without automatically "dumping the mids". The manual indicates that getting "your" tone may require setting the controls much differently than on a typical amp. Very true.
I'm describing the El Diablo this way because it's not a cheap amp and some of the reviews sound as though they may come from people who didn't get what they expected. Or, didn't know what they were looking for. Or, don't have the patience to deal with its considerable mojo! No offense intended to anyone in those categories, but if you're going to spend this kind of money, you should know a thing or two about what you're buying. So if you have one or, are thinking of getting one, take some time.
That said, once you get there, look out! What a monster!
Here's my own, personal lowdown...I'm not famous and I'm pretty sure I never will be. I stopped being cute about the same time my hair started falling out. But, I've been playing for nearly 3 decades. From classic rock (before it was classic), to country and all points in between. Including really "icky" stuff I'd never play in a million years...but...A paying gig is a paying gig!
I have a lot of gear. 4 strats. A couple vingage and a couple modified road warriors. 2 Koa Carvins, one Carvin Bolt T with Seymour and Rio Grande pickups. Early 90's Gibson Les Paul, and a Gibson ES135. Godin LG90 with Seymour P-90's. There are other, disemboweled, guitars that surface once in a while, but these are my "players". For amps, '65 Ampeg Gemini 1, with original everything, including tubes! Early '60's Gibson RVT Falcon...mint. Kalamazoo Model 2. A Fender Super Reverb and a Hot Rod DeVille 2x12 combo. Carvin X60B head sitting on a Fender Bandmaster 2x12 cab with vintage 30's. Homemade 2 x 6V6 on a 1 x 10" cab with Jensen speaker. Also, homemade EL84, 5 watt Class A head. I also use a little, Tech 21 amp with a 10" speaker. I typically use a couple of delays (Boss and Digitech) through the effects loop, a tremolo pedal (Voodoo Labs), compressor (Boss), tuner (Korg), and Dunlop Wah into the front of the amp.
I can get virtually any tone I want with this amp. Usually somewhere between Keith Richards and David Gilmour (in my dreams, of course). The El Diablo wouldn't stay here if it didn't have "something" as I'm not very sentimental about gear (too many trips to the pawn shops when rent was due, over the years). For the last decade plus, I've played original, hardish rock with lots of "fill ins", "jams", and "just because" gigs thrown in. So, I need access to finger picking clean and monster distortion in the same set. Sometimes, in the same song! My rambling point is this: If I can't get it done with this amp, I should quit!
I'm sorry if I skip descriptives like "Fendery" or, "Marshally" or, "Boogie-ish". This amp has it's own thing going. For example, it does beautiful cleans, but I won't compare it to a Fender because, there's so much more going on with the Genz Benz that the comparison would be incomplete. Single coils, 'buckers, P-90's, all sound great. A little tweak here and there.
LOUD, LOUD, LOUD! Pentode or triode mode. 6L6 or EL34. This amp needs room!
Reliability
:9
BUILT LIKE A TANK! Weighs as much as one, too. It's been gigged, recorded, and rehearsed with. Put in cars, pickup beds, on hay wagons, stages...No problems, so far. I try to keep up on the tubes, etc., with all of my amps.
I don't gig without backup, any more. But I sure as hell used to, and I wish I'd have had this then!
Customer Support
:10
5 year, transferable warranty. Good enough...I haven't had to use it.
I had several questions that were answered by Mr. Genzler, himself. Just a phone call. Try that with Fender or Gibson.
It hasn't needed repair, but I admit that it scared my curious, amp guru dude when he looked at it. He's more of a vintage guy. He was, however, astounded at the build quality and tone.
Overall Rating
:9
I blabbered about my gear, style and years of playing earlier.
I would most certainly replace this amp with another one like it. And, if someone steals it, I hope they have a good chiropractor.
I compared this amp with a number of "boutique" and blue collar amps. In my opinion, none of them sounded better...just different. Ok, some Bad Cat 30 watter killed me! But it cost a LOT more!
As for wishes, I have 2...I wish there was a way to control the volume a bit. I've noticed a number of amps have the ability to drive the tubes hard and reduce the overall volume. Not a deal breaker for me.
Number 2...It is heavy! Again, not a deal breaker, but...damn!
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 02/29/2008
at 12:51pm
by Mike
Features
:10
This amp has a lot of features. Independent EQ and reverb controls, tube contour for vintage or modern tone shaping, compression, attack/presence, master volume and master reverb, 30 & 60 watt modes, switchable between EL34 and 6L6 tubes.
This amp is built solid. Made in the U.S.A. Reliable as hell. There's so much to this amp that I'm probably forgeting something.
Sound Quality
:10
The sound quality is spectacular. I've read a couple of rather unfavorable reviews and I can tell you that these guys either didn't read the manual, don't know how to shape tone, or expected something totally different (which would lead to disappointment with any amp). Don't be misled by these ignorant reviews.
The clean channel can either be spanking clean or grungy, depending on what you want. It sounds so ******* good with pedals. I've used an OD9, SD9, and modded DS-1. It all sounds great and the effects loop works very well.
30w mode is very sweet, smooth and sustaining. 60w mode MUST be played loud. If you think it's harsh, it's a 99% probability that you are not playing it loud enough. The clean channel is better the louder it gets. As you open the volume, the headroom increases.
The sound is very thick. You can compensate for a thin sounding tele just by plugging into this amp. Amazingly somehow a Gibson Les Paul doesn't sound too thick at all. It's just right. All this can be managed by the EQ. Some have complained that the sound is TOO thick, but they usually have their EQs set pretty high.
The controls on this amp are VERY responsive. If you think it's too thick, turn the ******* EQ controls down a bit. Raising them will only ADD to the sound.
The reverb is world-class, and if you read the fucking manual you will learn that you can actually achieve different kinds of reverb by using the master reverb in conjunction with the independent reverb controls.
If you want to use it at low volumes, turn down the gain a bit, crank the channel volume, and lower the master. It's not fucking rocket science, but you DO have to know how to work a frickin amp.
If you can't get amazing tone from this amp then you don't know how to use an amp. This amp is world-class.
Reliability
:10
This amp can live through hell, hence the name "El Diablo." Built like a brick house and reliable as hell.
Customer Support
:10
Excellent support. Genz-Benz really cares about their customers and their products.
Overall Rating
:10
Like any amp, you have to play it a lot and adjust it from time to time to get the right settings. This amp is so versatile, I think it's kind of a crutch to those who give it an unfavorable review because they can't seem to figure it out and write it off as a mediocre amp. **** all that, this amp rocks!
For the price you pay, it's going to be EXTREMELY hard to find such a great value. There's no compromising on anything here. Built extremely well, sounds awesome, and the service is great. Made in the U.S.A. You can't ask for more in this price range.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: USD 750.00. USED
Submitted 04/03/2007
at 09:08pm
by Maverick
Features
:9
I had an '04 model, I think? This baby is jam packed with features and benefits!!! Active EQ, 60/30 Watt Switchable, Footswitch has 4 buttons:Channel - Clean/Dirty, Hi-Gain//Lo-Gain, Built in Compressor, & Global Attack (Which is a very noticable presence boost & has a knob to adjust to taste). You can swithch b/t EL34 or 6L6 Power Tubes. 3 Preamp Tubes. Accutronics Longtank Reverb which has level knobs on both channels and a master to tweek to taste. It also has a tube contour knob for an overall darker or brighter/tighter sound. Effects Loop. Unbalanced out. This amp will cover ANY reasonable size club, IT IS LOUD. The list goes on and on, like I said, this baby's loaded with features. It would be hard to find a tube amp to match in this regard.
Sound Quality
:6
The clean is really CLEAN; you can't hardly make it dirty. Even with the master 7nd, you can roll off your volume a slight amount and have a really clean sound. I use a Fender Tele and a Frankenstein Strat with Seymour Duncan's and both guitars can stay clean in the bridge position.
The distortion channell had variety: anything from country to metal. The active EQ is pretty efficient @ shaping it's tone. Wasn't a noisy amp @ all in my opinion. The 30 watt mode had a better type of distortion in my opinion, as the 60 watt mode tended to be a little on the harsh side.
Having said the good, I did give it a 6, and here's why: Low volume, this amp had a good sound. You can get a very nice distortion, HOWEVER, we all know that any tube amp sounds better around 4-5 than it does on 1. Despite the sounds you can get from the amp, I found them to be very UN-focused with the master @ 4 & up. It's hard to describe, but even with the mids scooped, the amp just responded sloppy in my opinion. It's like the sounds were close to great, but only went so far. It also did not accompany pedals well either. My delay sounded like it was on low battery with the master above 2.5, and chorus wasn't very pronounced. Due to these facts, I have to give this amp a 6.
Reliability
:7
2 of the footswtich buttons worked only part of the time. It was like this when I bought it off ebay from a guy who had won it off of music123.com. The 3 year warranty is transferrable, and the seller shipped me the sales (prize?) reciept which told me the amp was only 2 months old when I bought it. I called genz benz and they said I could ship the footswithch in and they'ed repair it, but I never did; I wasn't going to pay the shipping.... Other than that, this amp really is built to last. It's a freekin 1x12 that weighed like 70 lbs. Beast. I gigged with it without worry, but I never counted to those footswithches to work in a live setting. It's a shame to have those cool buttons and not be able to use em'.
Customer Support
:6
They told me they would fix the footswhitch, but didn't offer to pay for the shipping charges for something that was obviously a manufactures defect, or they just used cheap components in their footswitches. Warranty is 3 years and transferrabe, so it really is a pretty good warranty if something really bad went wrong with the amp.
Overall Rating
:6
I've been playing guitar for 7 years. I run a home-made strat with Seymour Duncan JB's strait to my amp. Through my loop I have an Guyatone SV2 -> Boss TU-2 -> Boss PS-5 -> CE-5 -> DD-3 -> amp. I now play a budda superdrive II 30 watt 1x12 combo. I sold this amp and bought the budda and was completely blown away by the Buddas sound quality. If my El Diablo was stolen before I sold it, I would have bought something different. I liked all the features, and the masses of different sounds that could be produced, but hated the "so-so" quality of those sounds. I bought it for it's features, which blew away the competetion, but wish I would have bought something else. My Budda has literally no features, but has GOOD SOUND.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 01/15/2007
at 12:12pm
by firejack018
Email: firejack018<at>hotmail dot com
Features
:10
Further to my previous review, I thought I'd add some information about switching power tubes. I was already impressed with this amp in stock form. The Ruby EL-34 tubes gave it bucketloads of gobsmacking tone.
Today I finally got around to re-tubing with JJ/Tesla 6L6GC power tubes and now my El-Diablo sounds absolutely devastating!
Thanks to the rear panel bias pot, changing power tubes was a breeze. I've never had any experience tinkering with tube amps before, but after reading the instructions in the manual, I went out and purchased an el-cheapo Multimeter and changed the tubes myself. I was done and playing again in minutes.
Sound Quality
:10
In 60 watt mode, my El-Diablo is a metal monster. I plugged in my detuned Ibanez with the Dimarzio Evo2 pickup and was floored. Sounded something like Petrucci's "AS I AM" tone. Very dark and crunchy. The chunk that's coming out of the speaker is unbelievable. The JJ/Tesla 6L6GC power tubes have tightened up the bottom-end and given the El-Diablo a much more brutal tone. However, you can still back off the gain and play around with the tube contour & tone controls for a multitude of different sounds.
In 30 watt mode, the El-Diablo is a sweetly-voiced lead player's amp. Very articulate and creamy sounding. Nice for instrumentals.
The El-Diablo still has tonnes of versatility. The only trade-off is that the chimey sounding clean channel is now a bit thicker. But it still sounds great!
Reliability
:No Opinion
Customer Support
:10
I have emailed Jeff Genzler many times with queries about accessories, different tube combinations, etc, and he responds every time without fail. His customer service is second-to-none.
Overall Rating
:10
This amp is a fantastic piece of gear.
I couldn't be happier with my El-Diablo 60 Combo.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: USD 799
Submitted 11/15/2006
at 02:17am
by Combat Wombat
Features
:8
OK. I just spent about 2 hours with this amp at the guitar shop. I had always wondered how these amps sounded. I recently just switched from a metal band to a country/southern-rock band and knew that my Peavey Triple XXX wasn't going to cut it in the new musical setting. When I discovered that my local dealer was blowing these out at $799, I took off work early and drove down to check them out. It was a toss up between this amp and a Marshall TSL 601 (which he also had in stock). This amp has 2 channels with an active eq on each channel, an effects loop, accuntronics long pan reverb, switchable to 30 watt and 60 watt, EL34 or 6l6 power tube capacity, and included 4 button footswitch.
Prett good feature list, but points off because the footswitch has two fairly useless buttons (attack and compression). Reverb or effects loop........... or a lead boost would have been much more useful here instead.
Sound Quality
:7
This amp has a nice clean channel. It's almost a compressed sound though. Doesn't really breath the way I expected it to, and lacked the lows that the TSL had.
OK, on to the distortion channel. I was worried that the hot channel wouldn't have enough gain for my taste. I was wrong. Plenty of gain here, but it was a little too harsh sounding to my ear. In fairness I really didn't notice it until I ab'd it to the Marshall. But once I did, the harshness was clearly evident. The hot channel let's you switch between a milder more classic drive, and a hot lead tone. Both tones were more dry and less spongey than the Marshall 601. There was plenty of gain.....but it just didn't inspire me. It wasn't scooped sounding like the ultra channel on my triple XXX.....nor was it smooth like the Marshall. It had it's own thing going.
OK, here's the real problem with this amp. The gain boost on the hot channel was set arbitrarily by Genz Benz. What I was looking for was to set up the gain boost so that it was ultra hot, and then have the regular hot channel set with just a touch of drive, but this was impossible to do. Set the gain boost real hot, and the regular hot channel had too much drive. Set the hot channel with the drive down real low, and the gain boost wasn't hot enough. Geeez. Makes the feature pretty useless.
Also some reviews state that you can use the attack section as a volume boost for solo's. Don't believe it. There was about a 4db difference in volume with the attack section maxed out in volume. Definitely not enough of a volume boost for most situations.
Reliability
:No Opinion
I've heard nothing but good things about Genz Benz. I have the G-Flex 2X12 cab and it's a friggin tank. It looked very well built, and it was quite heavy (about 60 pounds) for an amp its size.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
I wrote Genz Benz with a question about my cab and the owner of the company responded. Nice guy! How's that for service!!
Overall Rating
:7
I really wanted to like this amp. I was fortunate enough to have the luxury of A/B'ing the amp to the Marshall TSL 601 (which is right about at the same price point). Even though I went to the store to buy the Genz Benz, I went home with the Marshall (which had a better clean sound (more bottom end, less compressed sounding), a smoother gain channel, and it is a three channel amp). The Genz Benz definitely looked and felt like it was built better.....but in the end, it's all about the sound.
My advice: Definitely try this one out before buying it.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: AUD 2041.00
Submitted 10/23/2006
at 12:13am
by firejack018
Email: firejack018<at>hotmail dot com
Features
:10
This has to be one of the most versatile tube amps in its price range. Mine was made in 2006. The features have been listed numerous times already, but I will quickly outline my favourites...
* Active EQs for each channel.
* Seperate reverb for each channel.
* Tube-contour control.
* Four button footswitch included.
* Footswitchable Compression and Attack.
* The option to run EL34 or 6L6 power tubes.
* 60/30 watt mode toggle switch.
* Effects loop.
* Rear panel bias pot located on the exterior for easy access.
* Quality knurled-aluminium knobs with indents for accurate tweaking.
Sound Quality
:10
I try to play rock, metal, blues, worship, Satriani, Vai, Petrucci, Opeth, Metallica, Pantera, basically any type of guitar orientated music. I play through an Ibanez JS1200 (with Dimarzio Fred & PAF Joe pickups) and an RG1570 (with Dimarzio Evo2, Fast Track 1 and PAF Pro pickups).
The clean channel is bliss and doesn't break-up unless you want it to. The responsive EQ enables you to go from round and warm to chimey and crystal clear without breaking a sweat. There is a Gain Control included for this channel which enables you to add some tube grit to the sound, an independant Reverb Control to dial in some splash and the Global Attack Switch to provide more punch and cut.
The distorted channel is a beast. It begins where the clean channel ends and goes all the way up to solid, chunky rhythm chugging and soaring solos. Again, the super-responsive EQ can cover loads of territory. Combine this with the footswitchable options of Classic or High Gain, Dynamic or Compressed Texture and Global Attack, and you have a huge tonal palette to work with. There's even a tube contour control that changes the sound characteristics to a darker or lighter shade. And again, you have a Reverb Control enabling you to set an amount of reverb independant to your clean channel's reverb setting.
Reliability
:No Opinion
Can't really comment on reliability as the amp is brand new, but if its appearance is anything to go by, it should not disappoint. Extremely rugged construction built from quality materials. And it looks the part, too.
Customer Support
:10
I have emailed Genz Benz a few times, and as stated repeatedly in other reviews, the company founder Jeff Genzler replied to my queries personally. He responds promptly and is all class.
Overall Rating
:10
My story goes like this...
I've been playing guitar for over 15 years and have never been completely satisfied with my tone for the following reasons:
1. My ear is very hard to satisfy.
2. My quest always got cut short by limited funds.
3. It always seemed you had to compromise between either good
hi-gain or good cleans (or get two different amps).
4. The only exception to rule 3 seemed to be the ridiculously
expensive amps.
Recently I decided to take up my quest again, and so I started sourcing different options. I stumbled across some promising magazine/user reviews of the El Diablo 60C. But after hearing some sample clips on the Genz Benz and other websites, I wasn't impressed.
I tested quite a few amplifiers, tube and solid-state (I'm not going to drop names but there were some big ones) and after much frustration and despair, I thought back to the El Diablo 60C reviews and decided to give it a try.
I tracked down a dealer with an El Diablo 60C in stock and plugged in a Jem with Dimarzio Evo's. I must have played only a couple of phrases when the salesperson hit the sweetspot with the controls and BAM! The sweetest sounding notes I've heard from an amplifier alone in a long time.
Taking into consideration the glowing reviews I had read from both guitar magazines and users, I took a gamble and decided to buy the amplifier there and then. I took it to work with me where I could crank it and I fell in love. Crystal to spanky cleans, solid crunchy rhythm chugging, and singing leads.
The sample clips I had heard did not do justice to the actual tone the El Diablo creates.
I wanted an amp with a bit of everything, but most importantly, I wanted explosive chunk and soaring solos. And I didn't want to break the bank. It's an added bonus that this amp also happens to have a terrific clean channel. The footswitch is included at no extra cost. So many features and great sounds in this amp, and I haven't even tried the 6L6's yet. Stock tubes only thus far.
I highly recommend this amplifier to anybody looking for a versatile combo at a fantastic price.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: USD 500.
Submitted 08/09/2006
at 05:45pm
by Erik
Features
:10
This amp does everything I need right now. I traded a Hot Rod Deluxe in and bought this last February. I was looking to get away from the 6L6's, and this one just fits the bill perfectly. I haven't used it in a real gig yet, that will be in 72 hours where it gets the real test but I have not been let down yet with 6-8 hour rehearsals, etc.
Enough options to give you plenty of tone tweakin' power, without the superfluous unnecessary bells and whistles.
My favorite options - 25' cord on the foot pedal! ; self bias pots to switch between 6L6's and EL34's; different power modes - 30 watt and 60 watt... so take the options you would have with the cleans, crunch, high gain, etc. and DOUBLE that for a whole new palette of sound; and heavy duty construction.
Tone for days.
Clean cleans, crank up the gain on the clean channel and get some real nice, tight 'gimme 3 steps' crunch. Delicious!
Sound Quality
:10
I love the cleans, I'm not a real tech. guy when it comes to guitar gear but I know what I like v.s don't like. This is an amp I LOVE! I do like how there's a gain knob for the clean channel, allowing you to add some true tube crunch to it. At the same time, when you really want to get down and dirty... just click the pedal switch and you're in. The compressor channel is great for cutting through the mix.
I play a lot of slide guitar, both standard tuning and open tunings and the tone(s) I can elicit from this amp are simply divine. Not an overstatement, just my opinion. I can't ask for anything more from an amp company.
I primarily play my '04 Jimmy Vaughan MIM Strat w/ a DLR guitars 'bucker in the bridge and usually Slinky 11's. Great match up. This is the same guitar/set up I used when I test drove it. When I compared it to the Fenders, Vox's, etc. and my pricerange v.s. options... hands down this was it. I could have paid a little more and got a JCM head w/ no cabs but really... I think that's a little overkill unless you're playing a stadium gig or have roadies. I'm a meat and potatoes guy, with just a wah between my git and amp so this is the full package.
Reliability
:No Opinion
Never had a problem yet. The tubes are glowing a little blue which I've heard means they're going, but I knew up front that this was the floor model. It's still been a good 7 months without a single issue.
Playing my first gig with the new band since I got this, this Saturday the 12th. The only reason I'm bringing my 5 Watt Crate Palomino w/ 10" Celestion is to have one 'just in case'. Preperation and planning prevent poor performance. That, and in case someone shows up who wants to jam!
I'll have to reserve opinion for after this gig and a few more. Just to be fair.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Never had to deal with them, from all indicators here and on their site, Jeff takes his work very seriously. Since he's also a player, it's nice to know that he's in the same trenches as working musicians and knows what's needed/expected.
Still, since I've never had to deal with them I can't fairly give them a 10, however I have faith that I would be dealt with appropriately.
Overall Rating
:10
I've only been playing 6 years or so seriously. I started with the determination to do something with music, I don't really care what as long as I stay true to myself and the music. This is definitely a life long investment, in that I don't expect I'll really need anything else that comes along. This has it all and then some.
Lost or stolen, the only reason I'd shy away from getting another is the price. Of course, at this price it's very cheap for what you get. It's worth every single dime and more as far as I'm concerned, I'm just a little cheap like that and when it comes to tone you shouldn't skimp. But for a life time, buy it once and replace the tubes as you go.... that's what I was looking for in an amp, and I'm fairly certain it's what I've got.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: US $999
Submitted 06/29/2006
at 09:28pm
by ED
Features
:9
Has all the features I was looking for. Seperate clean / gain channels that are footswitchable, seperate EQ, and direct out.
Sound Quality
:5
I use mainly a PRS McCarty. I had this amp for 28 days - and returned it beofre the 30 day gurantee for full refuund was up. I was told (and read it here) that it would take awhile to dial in the sound, since it has versatile dynamic eq, 30 / 60 W, etc. I found the gain channel harsh, and did not like the way the tubes brake up. Clean channel is great, but again found the gain channel to be wanting - actully i felt very little ability to color the tone. If you are going to buy one of these pay attention to the gain channel break-up. It sounded worse with my Start.
Reliability
:No Opinion
Built like a rock. Only had it 28 days - so can't say more than that.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Overall Rating
:5
AS I said, this amp didn;t work for me. I play a large mix of music - with exception of VH Metal. Gain chaneel works for only certin rock type songs (unless you add other effects). I eneded up replacing it with a VOX AC30 with Blues. More expesnive - but like the creamer gain, and Gain channel definetily more felxible.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: US $800
Submitted 06/25/2006
at 09:06pm
by Deuterium
Features
:10
2005 (purchased new) for $ 800 USD at my local guitar store, on a Closeout special
Incredibly versatile 2-channel amp, that really has 3-4 pseudo channels. Main channel switching is between Channel one (Warm) and Channel two (Hot). However, Channel two (Hot) has two distinct modes, which are selectable on amp as well as on footswitch. These are "Classic" and "High gain". Classic provides excellent crunch rhythm, and the gain range brings the amp from clean to just breaking up crunch. The High Gain takes it from crunch all the way to fully saturated high gain thermonuclear meltdown.
Add to this...the selectable "Dynamic" or "Compression" toggle switch ( compression adds killer sustain for soloing) as well as the unique "Contour" toggle with Contour level control, and you have a myriad of tonal variations and options.
In addition, if that wasn't enough tone possibilities, there is a Global Attack Switch and global attack level control. When this is engaged, this dramatically enhances pick attack and bite, and is extremely effective as a Lead boost to cut through any mix. Again, this really is a great feature that truly alters the responsiveness to playing dynamics (e.g. Palm mutes, pick attacks and harmonics).
The serial FX loop works just as it should, and my Rocktron Xpression sounds fantastic. Although the El Diablo 60C has an excellent long pan Accutronics reverb...I prefer the digital reverb in my Xpression...so I turn the amps reverb controls down to zero.
Finally, the El Diablo has two other big features that I like, which the Supersonic didn't have.
1) Pentode/Triode mode: This selector switch changes output power from 60 Watts (pentode) to 30 Watts (Triode). I will be using the 30 watt setting, mostly. This pushes the power tubes a bit more, and gives a more vintage, fuller and fatter tone with more dynamic response. Hopefully, this will prolong the life of the Power tubes, as well.
2) Ability to select/switch from EL-34 to 6L6 power tubes, with bias test points and bias adjust trim pot. I was disappointed that the Fender Supersonic did not have any external, easy way to re-bias the amp.
Sound Quality
:10
There is a definite sonic difference between the 30 watt triode mode and the 60 watt pentode mode (duh !!).
At first, I did not like the 60 watt mode at all, because it had a definite buzz / fizz on the high gain settings. However, this completely went away on the 30 watt setting. It was like night and day.
What I have discovered, is that it the buzz/fizz on the 60 watt setting was directly due to the low volume levels I was playing it on. As I mentioned previously, the OD / distortion is as smooth as can be on the 30 watt setting. I didn't change the volume settings when switching between the 30 watt and 60 watt mode.
That was the problem. I previously didn't have an opportunity to open up on the 60 watt mode, and I believe the buzzy / fizzyness was due to the very low volume levels. Today, I had a chance to crank it on the 60 watt setting, and lo' and behold, the buzz and fizz went completely away. Since I am playing at home, and don't need a lot of volume, the 30 watt mode is perfect for me. The reduced headroom and lower volume power tube saturation on the 30 watt mode gives the smooth and sonorous high gain.
I thought I would remark on this phenomena, as some of you have, or will have the opportunity to demo (the) El Diablo at a music store. If it is the 100 watt head, make sure you have it set for the 50 watt, 1/2 power mode. There is no way you are going to be able to crank it loud enough at the store to do any justice to the 100 watt mode. Likewise with (the) El Diablo 60 / 60-C. I recommend anyone first try it on the 30 watt setting.
(The) El Diablo 60C has incredibly musical high gain overdrive and distortion. It is voiced with a clear mid-range, which definitely harkens back to the virtuoistic guitar playing of the late '70s and the early to mid '80s. This is definitely a lead players amp. With that said, one is able to dial in a "BREWTAL" chunky ryhthm.
Reliability
:9
This amp is built like an Abrams Tank. Incredibly rugged and well designed. It comes with:
Preamp tubes:
1 ea. 12AX7CZ (Tesla/JJ) - Input Buffer and Hot Channel Gain
2 ea. 12AX7AC4 (Ruby Tubes?) - Warm and Hot Channel Preamp Tubes
Power Tubes
2 x Ruby Tubes EL 34 power tubes: Pentode 60 watts / Triode 30 watts
All tubes have special retainers to ensure tubes are fully seated, and to minimize possibility of vibration and microphonics.
The main and Output Transformer are HUGE. Furthermore, the stock GBE 1240-V75 loudspeaker is the same model used Genz Benz popular GFLEX cabinets...and does the job just fine.
Customer Support
:10
Haven't had to use it..but in reading all other reports here on the Reviews dataabase, Genz Benz gets top marks for responsiveness and product support...so, this gets a 10
Overall Rating
:10
I traded a new Fender Supersonic (which I had for a week) in for the Genz Benz El Diablo 60C. While the Supersonic was a great amp, with lovely high gain (for a Fender), the El Diablo has so much more tweakability and range of tones, especially with the active EQ tone shaping, the dynamic/compressed switch, the Contour control, and the Global Attack. It is like you are getting 10 amps in one...seriously.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 06/20/2006
at 08:12am
by Jason Randolph
Email: tele_jas<at>yahoo dot com
Features
:9
Usually I jump the gun and write a review after only a couple of days with an amp, but I put the El Diablo through a months worth of practice and gigs before writing this review.
This is a 2 channel amp, but has 5 (realistically), different tones at the stomp of a button.
I use this amp for my 80s, 90s, and modern rock/pop rock band and then for our original "country style" music and then again in my weekly (mostly) acoustic shows.
The only thing really missing from this amp is an FX loop on/off switch.
As for power, even in the 30 wt mode it's more than powerful enough to hang with my loud drummer.
One thing to remember when getting this amp home is 6L6's!!!! That makes a world of difference (I'll explain more below).
Sound Quality
:10
Let me say this first: At first, I loved the cleans, but wasn't too happy or impressed with the distortion and was already looking for my next amp. I then remembered I had a set of new GT 6L6's in my gig box and threw them in and heard a completely different amp that blew my mind!!
I'm giving this a 10 based on the clean channel alone!!! This is the best clean channel I've ever heard on an amp, period! When I got it, it came with Ruby EL34's and the cleans were nice and chimey but the distortion was kind of "fuzzy" and thick sounding. I then threw a set of 6L6's in it and wasn't expecting to hear the big difference I did hear!!
* The cleans went from a nice bright chimey tone to a warmer, thicker Fenderish tone with nice compression and sag.
* The Distortion became tighter and had more of a low mid throaty growl to it.
For a 1x12, this amp has mega low end! More than any other combo I've ever owned and more than my 2x12 Boogie Road King.
With the 30/60 wt switch in the back, you almost have 2 different amps in one..... In 30 wt mode everything is a bit darker, creamier and less agressive, more of a "Vintage" type of amp. In 60 wt mode, the agression is there and the creaminess is toned down but still there.
This amp is really sensitive to what guitar you use and pickups.... I have 2 tele's with Fender Noiseless pickups in it and a stock Peavey Wolfgang and all 3 sound just a bit different, but equally great with this amp.
The distortion remindes me of a Boogie meet a Marshall, it has that throaty growl of a Boogie, but the break-up lead style of a Marshall. It takes the best of both and blends them very nicely (with 6L6's), but is it's own amp and definitly has it's own sound.
I've actually got a sound clip on my web site at www.guitartest.moonfruit.com (6/2006) that'll be there for at least a couple of years (in case you're reading this a few years down the line). I plan on adding more clips later.
Reliability
:10
No problems yet, seems to be built as good as my past Boogies. If it's anything like the G-Flex cab I had, it'll withstand abuse pretty good. I'll give it a 10, and the owner of the company personally responds to your emails within a day or two... Pretty nice guy.
Customer Support
:10
See above, they seem to be an A+ company with excellent customer support. I've not had any problems, but I've had questions and have emailed CS and got a reply from the owner. Pretty impressive!
Overall Rating
:9
I've been playing guitar for 18 years (I'm 34) and play everything from classic and new country to 80s "hair" metal to modern metal and this amp can handle all styles with ease. My Mesa Boogie Road King is currently my main amp, but it gets harder and harder when it's gig time to choose between my Road King and the El Diablo! This is definatley no "one trick" pony.
If this amp were stolen, I'd be in the market for a new one. I think it's the best clean amp out today and the distortion channel is an added bouns that totally rocks too!
Give it a try, and try 6L6's before you give up on it!!
I read another post that said the 6L6's made it a metal monster, but I'll have to disagree with that and agree wtih that at the same time.. It made it a better amp all around, not just for metal - but also for classic rock, jazz, country, and metal (80s hair and modern).
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Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: 1400 (Canadian)
Submitted 05/08/2006
at 05:41am
by Walker
Features
:10
2004, same features as described elsewhere. This amp has enough power for everything I do and more. Even in 30 watt mode it is loud - I really do not know where folks would play with more volume - I always use a PA - even for small gigs and at practice.
It could really benefit from a switchable effects loop; other than that, this amp is perfect. The speaker screams "rock" - but has enough versatility to cover all ranges - I like to switch sounds from jazz to rock to metal - it take me two clicks on the footswitch.
Sound Quality
:10
When I first tried the amp - first note, out of some cheap -in the shop guitar - I was floored. The price on the amp was scary (1400 Can dollars) but I literally dreamed of the amp for 2 weeks - that first note - the sound would not go away. I am hooked.
Okay, I am really writing this review to counter all those that claim they cannot get a "metal" sound with the amp. Yikes! What are you talking about? Even doing tuned down chunk (think c or c#) this amp has more than enough headroom on the gain. Learn how to use the master volume and channel volume/gain to drive the beast. When I talk with other players who are using modelling amps, or never experienced real all-tube amps before, they cannot understand how to work the amp controls. Yes, this is different than simply dialing in a "modern gain" setting on a Valvetronix-spider-pod- and turning everything up to "11" - that just won't give you a useable sound on a real amp. This amp covers everything - one week last month I played a Celtic Folk gig, an alt-country gig and then jammed out with my band doing very heavy metal - I used this amp and one guitar (Godin) for it all.
Reliability
:10
Now there are 3 things you can count on in life - death, taxes and Genz Benz. No problems - this is great.
Customer Support
:10
I wrote the company, not with a question, but a suggestion - and yes it is true, Jeff the owner wrote me the next day not only to thank me but to explain that the idea had been considered and also to outline why it had not been incorporated into the amp. Above and beyond I would say.
Overall Rating
:10
I have been playing 18 years, and I had all kinds of gear. I love this - it is heavy - but similar in weight to the Vox, Ampegs, Marshall and Fender amps of my past.
I would not compare it to any of these amps - yes, they were all good amps - each had something that was great, something that I liked, and also something that I did not like. If you are at the stage where you want one good amp that will cover loads of territory - this is the amp. The only thing it does not excel at is being a light, small practice amp - which it never will be.
When you play with this amp you actually "play" the amp -it responds to how you play, your attack, your pressure and sensitivity. I had to play a solid state Yamaha one night - after playing the Genz Benz - it was like I had forgotten how to play - so much of your sound and playing will become engrained with this amp. This amp is as good as it gets.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: US $900.00
Submitted 05/06/2006
at 10:26pm
by Dave
Email: DeannandDave<at>aol dot com
Features
:10
As you all know from the previous reviews this amp has loads of great features, almost too many too list. I like having the ability to go to 6L6 tubes in place of the EL34's. I still have the EL's in mine but will in time try the 6L6's just for fun. I run a few effects through the effects loop, DLS chorus, Line 6 Verbzilla, Rocktron Shorttimer delay and a BBE Sonic Stomp. In front of the amp I also like a varity of grinds so I run an Xotic RC booster and an Xotic BB preamp and Fulltone OCD. I will be adding a wah wah pedal soon. I have had this amp about 1 year and use it very seldom. It is always a great pleasure when I do turn it on, sometimes I forget just how good it sounds and although I have a ton of effects going through it I know I can just plug my guitar straight into the front of it and get a great tone, no problem.
Sound Quality
:10
The only guitar I have to play through this amp is an old Peavey Predator (strat copy) it has an EMG SA pickup system with mid boost and nice a Carvin neck. I play mostly rock but like to dabble in just about everything. I bought this amp based mostly on reviews in Guitar Player magazine and Guitarist, both were very favorable reviews. The clean channel of this amp is what really sold me, it's a total player. Very nice tone and great articulate feel. I dont know if it sounds like a Fender or a Matchless and I dont care it just sounds damn fine and the notes have feeling when you dig deep. The hot channel is no slouch either but it didn't grab me quite like the clean channel. As time goes on I am learning to like the hot channel more than I did, it has a tone that is all its own and I guess that is what threw me off. It doesn't sound quite like a Marshall and yet it doesn't sound like a Mesa or really anything else for that matter. It has its own tone and its taken me a while to get use to it. With that said I am at this point very happy that it is not just a tone clone of some other amp, it is its own beast and that is about the highest praise I can give anything.
Reliability
:10
All the while I have owned mine I have had no problems at all. I don't play it much but when I do it works. This amp stays at home and does not get gigged. I will some day be using it for recording after I figure out which mic's will sound best with it.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
No idea.
Overall Rating
:10
I have been playing 40 years and own other gear, digital this and digital that and everything seems to end up on cd in the end. This is about the only non-digital piece of gear I own and it is a breath of fresh air this amp is an instrument in its own right and one of these days I am going to do right by it and get some songs recorded with it to document it truely outstanding tone.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: 1400 (CAD)
Submitted 01/25/2006
at 07:09am
by Joe 'Crunchmeister' Gilker
Features
:10
I bought this amp a few weeks ago and it?s one of the most well-designed amps I?ve come across to date. It features a 2 channels preamp powered by 3 12AX7 preamp tubes. The preamp has an active EQ on each channel, making for interesting tonal combinations. 2 clean and 8 distorted tones can be accessed directly from the foot switch at any time, making this amp very versatile. Has a serial effects loop, a 60 / 30 W (Pentode / Triode) switch. The housing is rugged and solid, made of good ?real? wood. The front grille is made of metal and will keep the speaker safe from even the most demanding road abuse. The reverb tank on this amp is a thing of sonic beauty. The reverb is clear and doesn't overpower the sound. Independent reverb controls on each channel are a VERY well-though out option. Kudos to Jeff Genzler for that idea.
The EL34 / 6L6 tube switch and external bias test points / adjustment screw make this amp a very complete package. I don't know how one could possibly improve on this amp's design except to perhaps include the rest of the features (namely the channel independent serial loops) of the El Diablo 100.
Sound Quality
:8
The sound out of this amp is absolutely splendid. With the stock tubes, it can do pretty much any type of music. The warm channel will go from a glassy, transparent clean to a mild blues drive. The clean channel is very articulate and responsive. You can go from a crystally clean to gritty growl by only modifying your pick attack. This is what a clean channel should be like. It has spank and twang that will stand toe-to-toe with any vintage Fender Twin. Plug a Tele into this bugger and you?ll be in twang heaven.
The Hot channel is a bit more complex. With its 8 different settings, you can get a wide range of driven tones. At lighter settings, it will easily do rock or all types. At the higher end of the scale, it will do metal, but it?s not the ideal amp for the sound ? at least with the stock tubes.
I play metal. I was born with the mark of the beast. I live and breathe metal. I play in a Metalilica tribute Internet band project called Sad But True (www.sadbuttrue-band.com) and in a System of a Down cover band. I require tons of chunk and crunch. While the El Diablo will do metal, it will only give you that metal chunk if you?re driving the shit out of the power tubes. And unless you?re playing a medium to large gig, there?s no way you?re ever going to turn this amp up that loud ? even in Triode mode ? unless you have an attenuator of some sort. So the metal sound has tendency to be a little loose and unfocused. Hard rock is probably as heavy as this amp can realistically do with EL34s.
Enter 6L6GC power tubes. DUH!!! While the EL34s don?t quite push the amp into real metal territory, 6L6 will dish it out in droves. I was fully expecting 6L6 tubes to tighten up the low end. However, I wasn?t expecting the explosive chunky crunch that it produced. I traded a Peavey 5150 for this amp, and was missing that chunkiness. With 6L6, the amp is as in your face as you can get it. It?s got a massive, tight low end with brutal attack and awesome pick attack definition. This is the definition of brutality. These tubes truly give the El Diablo the ?voice of Beelzebub? it needs for metal. The voicing seems to sit somewhere between that of a Mesa Mk IV and a Single Rectifier, except with a tighter low end. Even at modest volumes, it produces a thick, chunky tone that will satisfy any metalhead?s need for crunch. If you want to use this amp for metal, 6L6 are MANDATORY.
The down side of 6L6 is that they rob the warm channel of a lot of the shimmery, crystal-clean tone the EL34s produced. The clean channel is still excellent, but not outstanding like it was with the stock tubes. So it's a bit of a trade-off between the distortion and the cleans. This is the reason the it loses 2 points in this category. IMO, Genz Benz should produce a separate 6L6 version of the El Diablo with a modified warm channel.
Reliability
:No Opinion
I've only had the amp a couple of weeks. No problems to date with it.
Customer Support
:10
I haven't had the need to contact Genz Benz about anything to date. But a few people I've spoken to about it have said that if you contact them, company founder Jeff Genzler will most likely be the one responding to your email personally. To me, that's a massive plus.
Overall Rating
:9
I've been playing guitar for 18 years now. My current lineup of guitars is a custom shop Lado Earth 2000-3, a custom shop ESP Explorer, an LTD EX-351, and an Agile AL-3000, all equipped with EMG pickups. I?ve owned many guitars, and many amps, along with several tube amps. Since installing the 6L6 tubes, this amp has jumped into first place as the best amp I?ve ever owned, with the runners up being a Mesa Mk III, Peavey 5150, and Marshall JCM 800. I?ve also had the chance to play many other amps over the years. Few can stand up to what the El Diablo has to offer. It gives you excellent balance between features, versatility, and portability. Short of a Mesa Road King, you?re not going to get any other amp with this full feature set and versatility. And you?re not going to find anything comparable anywhere near this price range.
There?s really nothing to dislike about this amp once you?ve got it tubed for your style of music. Unless you have an actual problem with the amp itself (a defect), then this is about as perfect an amp as you can possibly get. It lacks nothing in terms of features, and should anythign happen to this amp, an identical replacement will be taking its place as soon as I can get one ordered.
Really, the only reason this amp isn?t getting a 10 as an overall rating is the fact that you have to choose between the ideal clean tone or the ideal distorted tone (by power tube type) if you?re playing metal. It may sound like I?m ragging on the clean tone with 6L6, but I?m not. It?s just that once you?ve heard the clean tones available with EL34, the 6L6 powered cleans don?t stand out as much.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: US $800
Submitted 12/11/2005
at 08:36am
by Dale
Email: drpietrzak at msn<dot>com
Features
:10
I bought this amp a year ago. It has a mutitude of features for a 2 channel amp. Penetode/Triode switing, global elements, seperate reverb and eq (active) per channel. A three channel version of this is the only thing I would think is better.
I play country, jazz, blues, classic rock and more modern rock. I do not play metal. The cleans on this amp will do all of this easily. It has a great texas blues sound. It moves into classic rock with easy (AC/DC, ZZ Top, Aerosmith, and can handle the more modern tones as well). The cleans have a Matchless quality to them, with a bit of Fender mixed. It is 60 watt/30 watt switchable.
The speaker compensated line out works well for recording. As it comes after the power amp it brings in the tone from the poweramp and not just the preamp. It sounds very good, though slightly different than the spaker itself.
The contour feature on the dirty channel takes it from dark to bright in character by moving the resonant peak (I believe). This really allows the channel to handle various guitars and drive textures very well.
If you do not like the EL-34 elemtns of your tone, it has the ability to move to 6L6 tubes withe a flip of a switch. Differnt character for those who wish that style.
It is semi-closed back, and has a rock voiced speaker.
I wish it came with a cover (avalible seperately). Oh ... be aware this amp is heavy!
Sound Quality
:10
As indicated I play jazz, country, blues, classic rock and some modern rock. The cleans are a cross between Matchless and Fender, and very nice. The dirty channel is also very versitile giving a Marshallesque to Mesa esque tone depending on how it iset up. In a band setting the cleans drop into the mix in an astoundingly fine manner. This thing is VERY articulate. If you are a sloppy player, it will be noticed. It does not forgive in that sense.
It handles speaker cabs well and sounds good withe my semi-closed Cannibis Rex 1x12 and my 2x12 V30 closed back cab equally well. In each case giving a new range of tones one would expect from that speaker.
Reliability
:10
I have not had any trouble with the amp. It is bult like a tank. It is a very professional desinged amp. I have banged it around a bit, and it was a floor demo. No problems. The tubes are held tight with screw down tube holders.
Customer Support
:10
The warranty is solid. The store that had used it as a demo had messed up the handle. I contacted GB and the man who started the company responded. Handle arrived ina few days. The local store was not able to get a cover for some reason, again Jeff responded by getting me one right away. This company has outstanding support!
Overall Rating
:10
This has been my number one amp (I have several very good amps). This amp does it all very well. This one is not the jack-of all trade and master of none. It masters nearly everything.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: 1150 (GBP (sterling))
Submitted 11/07/2005
at 08:33am
by Sam Dunstall
Email: chunkyhappydude at hotmail<dot>com
Features
:9
My amp is brand new and nothing has gone wrong so far. As much as I love to criticise things, I just cant bring myself to criticise this!
Its soo versatile and the low end is incredible for a 1x12.
I am a Texas Bluesyish kinda player and i can get just the right SRV tone with a Strat. Luckily, I am surrounded by the best equiptment all the time at work, so i can fiddle. A Les Paul standard sounds amazingly mellow and punchy at the same time when the gain is turned up on the clean, heavenly chicago blues tone.
When smacked into 'Hot', The beast really does awaken! I personally have not heard the sound of down 'n' dirty rock 'n' roll so faithfully recreated like this before.
The knobs are all knotched and each knotch really makes a hearable difference to the tone.
It needs nothing more added on, the compression is lovely. Any digital effects would spoil it, as digital effects spoil anything in my opinion apart from on acoustic amps.
In terms of power, this is thing is loud and big sounding!!
One of their G-Flex cabs, either a 2x12 or 4x12, make this thing sound absolutely mammoth. The bass response is unmatched by many amps ive heard.
Sound Quality
:10
I am using a few strats with varied pickups. one with a set of fender hot noiseless pups, another with bare knuckle irish tour pups (like texas specials but better:D) and another with american standards and a duncan hot rail. Im also using a 335 and the mixture of sounds is absolutely incredible. As i said, i aim for a texas bluesy srv style sound, and get it better than i have with any other amp, and that aint easy! so this rates high on the scale happiness for me, considering ive spent god knows how much money to acheive!
The tones sensitivity is superb, the bass can go right from what i call 'wet fish' through to 'wollop!' and thats what impresses me most about the sound of this amp
Reliability
:10
its new, and not broken down, and is also built like a good looking bus!
Customer Support
:10
customer support is fantastic, very good experience when dealing with the company itself and also the distributor for this country (Sutherland Trading). Muchos Kudos!
Overall Rating
:9
Ive said everything already. Its awesome and comes from a company of people who really bloody know what they are doing, obviously!
If it were lost (dont know how you could lose something this big) or stolen ( i'd like to see the bastard out run me) i would not hesitate in buying another!
I compared this to nearly every amp in the shop (fender custom shop, all the mesa bogie rubbish and the marshall stuff, cornfords, engl's etc) and this amp won hands down.
And as i said, I love to criticise things
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: US $700 used
Submitted 09/05/2005
at 05:06pm
by Anonymous
Features
:10
2004 Model. I bought this amp fo rits versatility. I play with a Christain rock group and we cover alot of tunes in addition to our originals. I had been using a modeling pedal (genX 1) into a Fender Deville 212, but had to keep adding pedals to get the sounds I wanted. This was my answer to findg a variety of sounds with an amp and a limited number of pedals.
It basically has a clean and overdriven channel with options of (1) more drive (2) compressor (3) global attack. Pickture any combo of these and double it with a master switch from Pentode to Triode modes. On top of that it has a contour knob to shape your overdriven sound. Think "options"!
This amp has plenty of power and a master volume to keep the natural feedback at a level you desire.
All tube (although I replaced my original tubes with sovteks) amp.
Sound Quality
:9
I play mostly a Schecter C1 classic (with SD pickups) and an American Deluxe Strat. I like this amp with both single coils and humbuckers. It should suit most styles, although admittedly, I don't have a huge need for a Mesa Boogie sound. Metal is nothing we try to cover. I don't know how it would do here.
Still I think the 60watt channel on more overdirve with the compressor on sounds pretty brutal. This thing is LOUD!! As loud as it gets, the clean channel will not distort unless you crank the gain all the way up and then it gets a Fender Tweed type overdrive kicking.
I should warn you that this amp can be a little noisy on standby. It may be the pedal chain, but I don't think so. It likes to hiss somewhat, but not any more than any other tube amp I have had before.
As best as I can describe, the 30 watt switch gives you a Fender-Peavey blues type sound (clean or overdriven). The 60 watt will get you more Marshall sounds from clean to crunch.
At first I though the sound was a little harsh for my taste, but I keep getting compliments on my tone now. I guess maybe I have been playing through my Deville for too long. You can't beat the Fat Fender sound when you want it. I just don't need it for every song.
Reliability
:No Opinion
I purchased it used. Shortly after receiving it, the tubes went out on me. I found out that they have been damaged during shippind and had been taking in air.
I can't really blame that on the manufacturer. If this thing holds up like it appears to be built (TANK), it should last for years.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Haven't dealt with them.
Overall Rating
:9
I have to say that this has answered my need to get rid of my modeling addiction. I now play through a pedal tuner> H2O chorus> Vox wah > BBE Sonic Stomp > Volume pedal. This seems to cover everything I am trying to get. I love the amp now with this pedal configuration. The BBE brings the amp to life. It had a good sound before with a very harmonic feel on all settings, the BBE just brings it up front.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: US $850.00 used
Submitted 08/18/2005
at 09:48pm
by Ian Beaupre
Features
:9
This is a 2005 amp, bought new, owned for about a month. First of all I want to make one thing absolutely clear: this amp is not the greatest choice for metal, despite its name. Essentially what you get here is a clean and a crunch channel. There is no "lead" channel here and you will not get super saturated metal tones like you would get out of a mesa/boogie, or even a modeler amp like a line 6 spider II (which I had before this).
This amp actually has a lot of useful and musical features. The pentode/triode switch actually does make it seem like 2 different amps. The contour control is highly interactive, essentially multiplying what you have dialed in on the tone controls. I find that setting it more than 1 or 2 notches past centre creates too radical a tone curve, its really a great feature.
The way the reverb works with this amp is kind of confusing, but basically there is one global knob, that kind of multiplies the effect of the channel reverb knobs. So if you're hot reverb is at 0, no matter what master reverb is at you will hear 0 reverb. I guess it is made that way so you can set up how much reverb you want on the clean channel with respect to the gain channel, then you adjust the master reverb based on the room you are playing in. Thats probably really confusing, but its difficult to explain :)
The compression/dynamic switch and hot/classic switch basically just step in more gain. This is where I went wrong with this amp. The way they describe it on the website and in reviews, they make it seem like these switches can elevate the amount of gain in this amp to that of a recto if need be, almost like having both engaged kind of creates a third lead channel. They make this thing sound as versatile as a modeler. Let me make this absolutely clear: this is not true. You get a clean channel and a crunch channel, thats it. IMO these channels sound great, and I have always thought that hi-gain metal sounds can be achieved best through pedals anyways, so its not much of an issue for me (I was always very happy with the metal channels on my spider, and I recently borrowed a friends uber metal:a great pedal). Its tough to rate it in this category, because I was very dissapointed with the amount of gain in this amp. However, that was because of they way they advertised the amp, it is not really the amps fault that I expected more gan. The features that are there, however, are well thought out and very musical, so I'll give her a 9.
Sound Quality
:8
I play an SG with a SD JB in the bridge and a DiMarzio virtual PAF in the neck, jimmy page wiring. The sound of this amp is designed to be musical. What I mean by that is, although the "active tone network" is designed to provide an extremely flexible tone, the tone shaping is somewhat limited by the amp's design to make the tone sound as good as possible. To this effect, I have noticed that much of the treble response is gone in this amp, and this is to keep the tones from sounding harsh. I think it may also be related to the speaker, which is used in the G-Flex cabinet and is, as I understand, more of a bass heavy speaker. Either way, this amp really does sound great, as long as you give it some volume. The high end frequencies which you may be used to hearing when playing at low volumes sound really cool when played at bedroom volumes, but pump up the decibels and you'll be turning that treble down immediately, especially if you are playing chords... they will make your ear feel like it is about to explode. This amp avoids that effect, and by doing so creates great sounds. Then if you want that really hard slicing effect, just dial in the global attack and let er rip; the audience's ears will be bleeding in no time :)
Seriously though, as long as you are not looking for an ultra-gain tone, this amp sounds great, although I do suggest you take one for a spin before you buy and really take some time with it. It is designed with the capability of great tones, you just gotta work a little to get them because there are so many different factors in how this amp sounds (global attack, pentode/triode, high/classic gain, dynamic/compressed, hot/warm channel, pre-amp etc.). Get a salesperson to help you out, because chances are he has played around with the amp longer than you have and he knows what works well.
One more piece of advice: be patient when dialing in your sound, it is very easy to overdo it with the knobs on this amp, they are very sensitive.
Reliability
:No Opinion
It has worked fine fort me so far, but I havent had it for very long...
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Again, I havent had to contact them, apparently they are great though, Jeff Genzler answers emails personally...
Overall Rating
:8
I have been playing for a bit over 2 years (I share this amp with my dad who has been playing for 30) but dont take that the wrong way. My dad owns all kinds of vintage gear and he has owned several amps since I started playing, so I have had quite a bit of experience with different guitar tones.
If it were lost or stolen, at this price point I would probably buy another one. I honestly do not think that you can get a better amp for what I payed for mine ($850 US). In reality, however, if it were lost or stolen I would most likely save up for a few more weeks and invest in a lower wattage AC30 with alnico blue speakers, for a few reasons. First of all, Jimmy Page used one on the first zeppelin record and the AC30's historical allure is undeniable. Second of all, the El Diablo turned out to be a lot louder than I expected, even when in triode mode. The lower wattage of an AC30 would be more suitable for our current situation (we live in a town house). Neither of these are complaints on behalf of the El Diablo, however, so don't worry about it.
The tone in this amp is by no means the best I have ever heard, but it is a great amp none the less. If you spend some time with it (and you do not subscribe to revolver magazine) I guarantee you will find a tone that suits you perfectly which you will be completely happy with.
*** for those of you who did not get the revolver magazine joke above, revolver magazine is a heavy metal magazine. Make a long story short: this amp is not for metalheads
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: US $1159
Submitted 08/13/2005
at 04:40pm
by RabiesJoy
Features
:8
made in 2004 or 2005. I've owned it for about 3 months.
The amp is definitely not versatile for all the styles I play (metal, jazz, classic rock, hard rock, funk). But I'm not sure any one is. It does have its own unique sound which is a smooth, extra-sustain distortion with natural harmonic feedback. The clean channel is not really clean. The gain on the preamp channel makes it distort slightly for the clean (warm) channel.
2 channels. would be nice if it had 3 like the TSL's or JSX but not a big deal. no headphone jack. effects loop is there. footswith is pretty cool, it has five buttons on it. However, one of the buttons on mine is having a problem engaging/disengaging. Somes it goes the warm/hot button works, sometimes it doesn't. The attack button is a nice solo feature, it boosts the upper mids to cut thru the mix.
I use this amp at home in the triode mode (30 watts) and in my band practice in 30 or 60 watt modes. It moves a lot of air for a 1X12 combo. I wouldn't say it's loud enough for a metal or hard rock band.
The control knobs click when you turn them a little. I like that feature. A Traynor I had, then returned, had very loose control knobs.
Sound Quality
:3
I use primarily 3 guitars: Black Schecter C-1 Artist Limited Edition, Carvin DC127 6-string with active electronics, Epiphone Dot.
The Schecter has Seymour Duncan hot pickups on it, good for metal. The Carvin is good for hard rock or blues. The Dot is for jazz, blues.
The amp does make a lot of extra sound while it's in "idle" so that when you switch channels it doesn't make a typical channel-switching sound. Kind of annoying but no big deal for me really.
This amp is great for doing lead style copy of Coletrane, Davis, or Scofield. I play jazz a lot so it works well for that. The clean channel on this amp is sub-par. Not pristine clean like my Mesa/Boogie Rocket 440.
The other complaint I have with this amp is that it does not respond to the full range of my Dunlop Crybaby wah pedal that my Valvestate Marshall and Boogie Rocket do. It doesn't have the bite that the Marshalls or Boogies have. It has a very long-sustain smooth distortion if you turn the gain all the way to 10. I even tried turning the bass and mids to zero and the treble to 10 on the overdrive channel and it still seemed like there was not enough treble. I guess that's why it has its own sound. I don't care for that though. Metal/distortion needs bite. And how can an amp named "EL DIABLO" not have bite???
The tubes respond well with harmonic feedback if you drive the preamp volume. This amp will cover most classic rock, but I'm not sure I would have named it The Devil (el diablo) because the overdrive channel is not nearly as intimidating as the Boogies. sorry.
I noticed that at a fairly high volume (5 preamp, 5 master) on the overdrive channel in 60W mode, when I equalized mosh/metal style (max bass, zero mids, max treble), the tone was very muddy. My Boogie and valvestate Marshall don't behave like that.
Reliability
:5
The footswitch had a problem within 2 months. The warm/hot channel switch/button sometimes turns on/off. I emailed tech support at Genz-Benz and got a personal reply from Jeff Genzler. I then talked to a tech and he said that I should take it in to get fixed. What a pain though after only 2 months...
Other than that, it's been reliable after being transported in my trunk to rehearsals.
In contrast, I haven't had one problem with my Valvestate 265R Marshall and I've had that for about 8 years.
Customer Support
:10
Very responsive and good advice/feedback.
Overall Rating
:6
I've been playing guitar for about 12 yrs. I played sax for 8 yrs prior. I'm a hardcore music junkie. I know by now (I'm 30 yrs old) that tone and feel are preeminent (just check out John Frusciante of RHCP, John Coletrane and Metallica). If you have an amp with awesome tone then you will feel like playing for a long time each day. Trust me. Solid state sucks.
I'm thinking about selling this amp. I bought a Boogie Rocket 440 on Ebay recently and that thing is badass. Very nice clean and dirty channels. I use a Dunlop wah straight into the input and a MXR Phaser, DOD Delay and DOD Flanger into the effects loop. Great for Floyd, zero 7, Kind of Blue (Davis) any laid back trippy stuff. The Boogie responds very well to my Wah, unlike this Genz-Benz. The clean channel on the Boogie is not distorted like this Genz-Benz. The Boogie's overdrive has more crunch and bite than this combo.
You should try out an amp before you buy. I didn't on this one. I don't think it's a bad amp for my purposes, but I do think that Marshall and Boogie sound better than this combo.
The 30/60 watt switch is nice to have, it makes it sound like 2 completely different amps.
My bandmates said they like the sound of this amp but liked the Boogie better. I don't use an extension cab. That could make a difference in the tone I guess.
If you run more than one amp in your setup (like Dean DeLeo of STP and many others I presume) this may fit in nicely to smooth out your overdrive tone.
If it were stolen I'd be angry that I didn't put it on Ebay first to buy another Boogie.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: US $920
Submitted 01/20/2005
at 10:35pm
by Frank Warren
Email: frankwarren<at>comcast dot net
Features
:10
Very sweet (if you want it sweet) on warm (clean) channel. Distortion (hot) channel will take you from a very good (second) clean to all the distortion you can use and them some. Active tone controls (+/- 15 dB!) that can almost approximate a single coil sound like a hollowbody and conversely. Versatility is the byword.
Excellent footswitch which takes you between warm and hot channels and on hot channel, lets you add in one extra step of grain and/or compression, which adds a little gain and prolongs sustain considerably. Feeds back just fine when you're close (beware of hollowbodies! This amp projects exceedingly well for a 1x12. On the other hand if you're trying o get Nugent effects, this is what you want).
The full range of tones on this amp is useable; there isn't an unmusical setting on it. Whatever style you play it has you covered.
Sound Quality
:10
I'm using a strat copy by Peavey, an Ibanez full humbucking hollowbody with floating pickups, a Jackson Soloist, BB King Lucille, Hamer Studio etc. They all work well. The most amazing part is that one guitar can be trimmed with that generous active tone network (separate controls for warm and hot channels) to make the Soloist, which is the most nasal, sound pretty close to the hollowbody. Even the Soloist's notably nasal single coil tones sound very musical, even with the reverbs off (it has per channel reverb plus a master reverb).
I can't get over how the amp sings until the distortion is blown all the way out until there is more distortion than original signal. Even then it sounds damn good.
Reliability
:10
Dealer support is good. I wrote about this amp two days ago when it had died on me. The problem turned out to be a couple of cables that fell apart on me and developed shorts when re-assembled. Never was a problem with the amp but I heard from the designer, thanking me for feedback, and the store (as most of Genz Benz retailers) was willing to go with me however far it took. So support has been perfect despite me being testy when I thought my new amp had died on me. Longterm reliability is a wait-and-see but I got a look into the amp while we were trying to figure out what could have gone wrong. The tubes all have spring retainers on them, and the construction quality makes me think I'll be long dead before the amp dies.
Customer Support
:10
Flawless. And I did have a beef.
Overall Rating
:10
I've been playing off and on since 1980. I understand why I tended to lose interest in guitar after a while. I used to use only solid state and putting the Genz up against Peavey's best solid state, I can see what I was missing. Life is not only too short to spend iwth a crappy guitar; it's too short to spend it with a crappy amp. If you want real, wet, musical tube sounds and only have room for a combo, this thing deserves a listen.
I put this up against a Vetta II and had the same response that I did to the Peavey XXL - yeah, it's nice, and I'm sure it's very good, but it's just not as pleasing to the ear; not musical enough, just sterile sounding.
If this amp was stolen, I'd replace it with another stopping only long enough to see if something ever newer and better (unlikely) had been produced in the meanwhile.
Jeff Genzler is the man who started this company and who still runs it. He's a player and is quality folks putting out a stellar product at a fair price. Before you buy Marshall, Mesa Boogie etc you need to hear this amp. You CAN spend more and get less.
And this amp does High Gain to a fault as well as the stellar clean and mildly dirty tones.
It is also suitable for apartment use as it has a master output level that, with all the other gain and volume pots (one gain/one vol per channel) will let you get real tone at apartment-friendly levels. I'd say the amp will cover most small venues and even most churches.
Fortunately I'm not kicking myself too hard. This amp just came out this year and most of what else they had in the store wasn't nearly as musical.
This amp sings.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: US $820
Submitted 01/18/2005
at 11:54pm
by Frank Warren
Email: frankwarren at comcast<dot>net
Features
:10
More than enough. Recently released, my unit died on the 4th day. Looking into options now.
Sound Quality
:10
Sounds excellent with both humbuckers and single coils. Warm tones if you want them, or screaming highs if you want those. The tonal versatility of this amp was why I got it.
Reliability
:1
Dead on the third time powered up. this is not good.
Customer Support
:3
I have email in now. I hope the dealer takes care of this for me.
Overall Rating
:No Opinion
Great amp - when it works. The infant mortality should not happen with tube gear. Makese me wish I'd stuck with solid state. No opinion yet. Let's see how support works out first. Be advised, however, that this has happened.
Product: Genz Benz El Diablo 60C 112 Combo Price Paid: 1295 (Canadian)
Submitted 12/04/2004
at 09:30pm
by bender
Features
:10
What can I say. Flexible enough for any style of music. Built like a tank...militay specs. 10 different amp comfigurations on a 4-button footswitch. 60/30 watt selectable all-tube power. Tone that can make you weep, or tear your face off. This is a hard amp to beat. Line outs, selectable speaker extension cab options, 15db boost or cut on all tone controls, individual reverb sends for each channel, effects loop AND a built in tube bias section.....you heard me. Built in. All you need is an ohm-meter and basic comprehension skills.
Sound Quality
:10
I use anything from a US Strat with a Pearly Gates Humbucker and 2 Texas Special singles to a Floyd Rose/EMG/Lado custom. I play rock, blues and anything your mother would hate. The clean channel can sparkle or growl, your choice. Switch to a single coil pickup and its clear as ice, roll back to the humbucker and look out Angus. There are two main channels, Warm and Hot. Each channel has the option of a selectable Attack Level, which is basically an adjustable frequency boost for solos or mix cutting. In addition, the Hot channel has any combination of classic or high gain, and dynamic and compressed sound. All accessable on the footswitch, I might add. The 60/30 watt mode (pentode and triode) allows you to change the amps overall characteristics from a vintage warm sound to a high gain assult. Did I mention the tube contour control that lets you adjust the signal level loaded to the tubes? Go from warm to aggressive, or somewhere in-between. When this amp is turned up, it punches you in the guts with a half stack sound, and its only a single 12.
Reliability
:9
Just bought the thing, but from what I understand it is built to last. 3 year transferrable warranty.
Customer Support
:10
I understand that the guys that built this thing are true gentlemen, and are more then happy to help you out. Brings a tear to my eye.
Overall Rating
:9
I bought this amp to replace my Yamaha Dg100-212, and I was very skeptical about how I could replace something that versatile. So far, I haven't looked back. Can't wait to gig with it. I've usually been a solid-state kind of guy, never wanted a tube amp. Then I heard this beast. I have never had this kind of response to a tube amp before. I've been knocking around the bar/club scene for over 10 years, and I worked in music retail for almost as long. I've seen amps come and go. Fads, lads and guitars with plaid. Fixed bridges and whammys, young chicks and grannys, but in the end they will all scream El Diablo. Jeff Genzler hit a home run with this design.