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Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 11/04/2009
at 08:28am
by martind74
Features
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No Opinion
n/a
Sound Quality
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8
I agree with Matt's June 2009 review wherein he defends this speaker and questions the logic of the reviewers who trash it saying that it's too bright or whatever. However I would say that disagree with him on one thing: I actually have this speaker in a silverface Princeton and it sounds great. Yeah - it's bright - but in this amp it sounds great. It gets flubby on the bass frequencies at "higher" volumes (for a Princeton) and there's not a ton of headroom but get this folks: THERE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE. It's a measly 25 watts so what do you expect? It does a great job creating the tones it is DESIGNED TO CREATE. If you are looking for some other tone that this speaker wasn't DESIGNED TO CREATE then BUY SOMETHING ELSE don't bash this one because it doesn't function well in a BAD APPLICATION.
Reliability
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9
Of course its reliable this question shouldn't apply. If you're dumb enough to put a 25 watt speaker into a 50 watt amp and then blow it then it's your fault - not the speaker. It'll only get better with age.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
no idea
Overall Rating
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9
Been playing long enough to know this speaker is fine for what it was intended. Nice highs, punchy mids and bass, great definition and clarity. For those things it does a fine job.
Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 11/01/2009
at 05:56pm
by Lioncommandking
Email: Lioncommandking<at>yahoo dot com
Features
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No Opinion
The speaker is a Jensen Reissue P10R rated at about 25 watts,8 ohms and 95.1 efficiency rating. It has an alnico magnet and is pretty light weight.
Sound Quality
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10
I cannot say how this speaker compares to an original P10R as I don't have one nor have I ever to my knowledge played through any. I am using this speaker in a Custom Vibrolux Reverb and comparing it to other speakers that I have used in that amp.
The P10Rs were original equipment with this amp about a year ago. I had only played them at apartment volumn levels. I thought then that they sounded pretty good, but decided to try some others to get as close to SRV's tone as possible. Well a year later I've come full circle back to these speakers after using Copperheads,Emi Blue frames, Weber 10f150t....All of those were very good speakers in this amp,but I've decided that the P10R is best in this amp. They are pronounced in the high frequencies, but also carry a nce tight bass, with a slightly scooped mid range that gives the CVR a voice all its own and as it turns out very close to what I've been chasing all of this time. It was already in the amp. This time I took time to try several EQs(when trying different speakers don't be afraid to re-EQ your amp). I also rediscovered the tone knobs on my strat. These have proven to be some very toneful speakers,and I say again in the CVR the bass is there and it is tight, the mids work perfectly with the manufacturer's dicription of the CVR's hornlike midrange and the highs can be shimmering and glassy or you can EQ them down. I tell you what with all these bad reviews, I don't see anybody selling theirs, and prices for new ones have risen. When I got my amp they were about $79.00. Now they are about $99.00. I regret I didn't buy more when they were cheaper.
Reliability
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No Opinion
Don't know yet. I've had them for a year, but only been gigging them for about a month.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
No comment.
Overall Rating
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9
I've been playing for about 20years. I own about 7 strats,9 amplifiers tube and a few solid state and an array of pedals overdrive, modulation etc. I like these speakers especially in the CVR. I once had them in my Fender Super amp coupled with two C10Qs and got some decent tones. I wish I had a spare pair because the price is rising on these and you don't see too many used ones for sale.
Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 06/11/2009
at 01:25pm
by matt
Email: cruseppi4 at yahoo<dot>com
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No Opinion
N/A
Sound Quality
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9
listen folks. it's all about application. a lot of people bag on reissue jensen speakers. i think at least half of the nay-sayers are either a.) corksniffers who don't think they cost enough, or b.) people who don't understand the strengths and weaknesses of their other gear and thus buy a speaker that is ill-matched for their application.
it is true, the p10r is a bright speaker. it is not ice-pick; it is brilliant. if you have a very brilliant amp with lots of high end emphasis, this speaker is a bad choice. hence the bad reviews. if you play a silverface fender, this speaker is not a good choice.
i put this speaker is a very dark-voiced fender brownface princeton. i started with a red fang 10 which was too loud and to mid/lows focused for the amp. i'm not saying it's a ***** speaker, i just used it for the wrong application. then i upgraded to a 12" celestion blue: the ultimate guitar amp speaker no matter what, right? wrong. again, wrong application. it sounded good when the amp was cranked, but muffled and dead at clean levels.
finally, exasperated in my quest for a speaker to wake this amp up, i decided to ignore ubiquitous bad-reviews and try the jensen reissue. i needed a bright speaker, and apparently that's what it was. a few hours break in and perfecto. the princeton's low/mid-heavy voice was complimented by the speakers slightly scooped, brilliant voice resulting in sonic happiness.
now my tone knob is useful, and a swampy amp finally has some fender shimmer and dimension. i roll the tone knob on the amp down as the volume goes up (no brainer for tube amps), and i end in wonderful, clear distortion. the speaker does get brighter when distortion is introduced, and that is what the tone knob is for.
sounds great with pedals. has a brilliant, vintage chime much more than the celestion blue did in this circuit. again, it's all about application.
Reliability
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No Opinion
don't know yet. it's already taken a sonic beating and sounds better every day as it opens up.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Overall Rating
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9
if your amp is bright, don't buy this speaker. if your amp has a deep, "brown" voice, you will love it (provided you want more shimmer and clarity).
it's not about having the most expensive gear, it's about knowing what works in a given application.
Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 12/11/2008
at 02:30pm
by Alnico Or Nothing
Features
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No Opinion
Sound Quality
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No Opinion
Reliability
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10
I don't question the previous poster, but I've had my speaker in a 15 watt Super Champ XD for over 6 months now. And on top of my own practice I have a couple dozen hours of playing near 10 on the clean channel - practicing and playing with the band.
no issues. no problems. i still love my amp.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Overall Rating
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No Opinion
Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: USD 300
Submitted 08/07/2008
at 03:50am
by Splattle
Features
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No Opinion
10 inch, 25 Watt, AlNiCo speaker
I put them in an early 1970s Fender Super Reverb 4 x 10 combo amp, that I've had blackfaced: 40-50 Watts.
Sound Quality
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No Opinion
Pleasant. Warmer and possibly less well defined than the mid-1990s 25 Watt Celestions I took out.
Reliability
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2
Poor. I bought these brand new. I broke them in gently using an MP3 player through a P/A for the better part of a week, starting at low volumes and working my way up to playing volume on the guitar amp.
I never ran the amp above 5 on the volume control, which is where it produces the power amp overdrive I like. The speakers buzzed and rattled. My speaker tech says that ALL OF THE CONES show evidence of FRACTURING, around the voice coil and at the edge. The cracks around the coil you'd normally see in a speaker that has got REALLY HOT. These haven't. The cracks around the edges you'd normally get from over-extension due to too much bass. I'm mainly playing a Les Paul in normal concert pitch through this rig.
This is complete crap. This should not happen with brand new speakers used in the correct way in the correct amp.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Haven't tried to contact them.
Overall Rating
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2
I couldn't possibly recommend them. They sounded nice, but no brand new speaker, in a set of four rated at 100 W, should end up crapping itself with normal use in a 40-50 Watt amp.
Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 06/10/2008
at 02:22pm
by Alnico Or Nothing
Features
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No Opinion
This is a (new reissue, made in italy) replacement 10" speaker reviewed in HC's "amps" category for lack of a speaker review category, which makes this "features" category irrelevant/non-applicable to the item being reviewed :)
it's a speaker with an alnico magnet (yay!), paper cone and steel frame. LOL.
Sound Quality
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10
I use a cheap (but good) lespaul-type guitar - a solid mahogany body (and set neck), maple top with GFS Dream 180 humbuckers (also coil-splittable per my installation). It went into my new Fender Super Champ XD amp (excellent!).
I am a classic rock type of guy (sound-wise) but I also like electric blues and Brian Setzer-type sound (getting more into rockabilly lately).
The Fender SCXD had a very decent stock speaker, but everyone's modding them, so I had to also :)
This alnico speaker sounds very warm and has nice, deep low tight bass. It seems to have increased my amp's loudness by just a touch. For a 10" speaker it has such nice lows that I fear for the structural integrity of my house. And the cat is afraid of my amp.
People have suggested that maybe this classic fender speaker wouldn't be a good match for SCXD's non-fender models. I don't know. They sound great to me. yes, maybe the "british" settings don't exactly sound like a beatlesque vox or like Brian May or like a marshall, but I don't care. I like the tones I'm getting - very 3D and inspiring. The fender models are VERY beautiful - warm lows, sparkly highs, buttery mids. I don't know about other reviewers, but with this amp I don't even know how I would produce any harshness/brittleness even if I tried. If you got a lemon, return it. If it doesn't match your amp - try it with another amp (or return it), but don't bash it, it's a great speaker.
Reliability
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No Opinion
i don't know yet, but i don'g "gig" - i'm a hobbyist. should be fine, nice, sturdy construction.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
M123 shipped a 16ohm by mistake, so I had to be patient with them while they replaced it with the 8ohm (required by my amp).
factory packing could be better - the speaker just sits in a box, wrapped in a plastic bag - no molds. maybe they figure it's sufficient. mine was ok.
Overall Rating
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9
I'd say it's probably a bit pricey (for me) but I scored a M123 discount and free S&H, so I'm ok.
I like alnico over ceramic. I like it in my guitar pickups and I seem to like it in speakers.
Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 05/27/2008
at 11:48am
by Not a Deaf Teener
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No Opinion
After reading the posted LIES about this speaker I had to speak up.
A few of these "reviews" are hatchet jobs evidently posted by people who obviously work for a competing speaker maker,or were posted by mis-guided, immature fans of that "speaker" maker, who shall remain nameless, because the Jensen P10R is one of the best speakers ever made. They are well made, sound awesome, SOUND EXACTLY LIKE ORIGINAL JENSEN P10R'S FROM THE 1950'S, and are reasonably priced. There's some monkey business going on here.Pretty disgusting behavior, if you ask me. I think Harmony Central should delete the posts that are obvious lies posted by hired or misguided shills working for "you-know-who".
The man who owns Victoria amps, a guy who knows more about sound than anybody who ever posted here thinks the Jensens are amazing and chose them over any other speaker to put into his wonderful amplifiers. He did that because they are an awesome speaker at a fair price....unlike some of these over-priced, over-hyped, dull, ugly boutique speakers you see on the market. Most of these boutique speaker makers would go out of business of they didn't have tone deaf moronic teeners touting them for God knows what reason. Most of those boutique speakers sound horrifying. Fender, Mesa Boogie, Victoria and many other legendary amplifier makers use Jensen in their amps. What does that tell you?
Sound Quality
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10
The Jensen P10R sounds EXACTLY like original 1950's Jensen P10R's and I know this for a fact because I have A/B'd them through two identical 1950's tweed Fender amps back and forth in front of friends, (musicians with good ears) and none of us could tell the difference between the reissues and the originals. I thoroughly tested them at low levels and at high levels...NO DIFFERENCE.
Tried with Strats, Teles, Pauls...NO DIFFERENCE. They have great, big, tight bass for a 10" speaker and nice, bright, high end without being shrill or thin, or dull. They are AWESOME in any tweed or blackface or silverface Fender. I also put them into my blackface Super Reverb and they sound wonderful. NOT SHRILL OR BRITTLE AT ALL.
NOT ICE PICK AT ALL.
Reliability
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10
I've been using Jensens for years....never blew one yet and I play pretty loud!!
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Never needed customer support....no problems....unlike some of the overpriced, overrated, dull, hyped boutique speakers made that have failure rates approaching 30% right out of the box.
Overall Rating
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10
The Jensen P10R is probably the best speaker ever made for use in any Fender amp, Gibson amp, Victoria amp or any amp modeled on the western electric, Fender type of tube guitar amp. I wouldn't use them with a high-gain, English setup like Marshall....Celestions are voiced much better for that application. Did you happen to notice in the posts here, that the people who liked the Jensen P10R were ACTUALLY MUSICIANS, TEACHERS, AND PLAYERS? NOT MORONIC TEENER SLAYER FANS? That fact speaks volumes. It's a real shame that jerks with a hidden agenda have come here to slander an excellent product.
I highly recommend all the Jensens I've tried with the exception of the C10Q which sounded a little flat, harmonically, to my educated ears.
Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 02/14/2008
at 01:53pm
by thesjkexperience
Email: thesjkexperience<at>yahoo dot com
Features
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2
Mine came in a used Victoria Victorilux 3x10. I play roots, blues and classic rock. And the amp is just fantastic for that. But, I wish the speakers wernt so harsh and bright.
Sound Quality
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3
Just too harsh and unmusical. I cant believe they can sell this thing. I had a 12" version in another amp and it was equally poor. I give it a 3 because, believe it or not, I have heard a bit worse.
Reliability
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No Opinion
Who knows?
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Who Knows?
Overall Rating
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2
i wouldnt buy this speaker ever. COme on Victoria there are far better speakers for less money and far better speakers for the same price.
Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 10/06/2007
at 09:30pm
by padraig
Features
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7
It is what it is -- an Alnico speaker, 10" -- and thus has the supposed strengths (chimey; fairly soft breakup) and weaknesses (soft, weak bottom end) associated with this classic design. Allegedly, a "reissue" (faithful repro) of the old US-made Jensens (this one is Italian), but I'm in no position to make a detailed comparison.
Sound Quality
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8
Used in my modded Pro-Junior, a very nice version of a pretty mainstream amp (2xEL84s), the single Jensen sounded pretty nice and tight when new. These kinds of amps have a tendency to sound brittle and shrill, but the Jensen really helped round out the tone without dampening harmonics and transients. The bottom end was surprisingly robust, though a little sloppy. Made a huge tonal improvement over the POS ("piece of...") that came in the amp. I don't know what company made that speaker for Fender.
Reliability
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2
Crap-o-Rama. This is a little amp, and I use it only for practice and recording. Even though the P10R was rated for much higher wattage, it essentially crapped out under truly light loads. The problem seems to be in handling bass tones (on a regular, non-detuned Les Paul); the speaker sounded decent in this regard (see above under sound quality) but pretty much just blew despite receiving only light, low-volume, regular use. Unless mind was a defective unit, which I doubt very much, I would offer a very serious warning that these speakers are under-engineered and under-built in this regard. If you just play light, trebly stuff maybe yours will survive. I play in a wide range of styles, and favor a flat, full-range tone, and this speaker let me down big time. Maybe it does better in two or four-speaker configurations. In my case, it wasa POS waste of money -- a weak toy.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
pointless
Overall Rating
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1
I'll never buy another new bogus reissue Jensen again. Total waste. Will replace with a real speaker, built to better specs from the ground up. A big mistake.
Product: Jensen P10R
Price Paid: GBP 54.47
Submitted 04/26/2007
at 11:36am
by Hzd
Email: hzd<at>kallnet dot fo
Features
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No Opinion
10" alnico speaker. These are brand new reissues. Don't know how to rate this.
Sound Quality
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8
As mentioned, these are brand new. A set of 4. I've only played them for about two hours all in all, but so far, they're all I wanted. I didn't see these reviews until after I had ordered them. I must say, that I'm very glad I didn't see these reviews before I ordered, because I might have passed upon them.
I like them. I was after a slightly compressed sound with early speaker distortion. That is what I got. I replaced the Emminence/fender speakers of my Fender Concert Reverb (4 10" super reverb-ish amp) and these weren't any brighter than the original ones. Just for comparison. But they feel lighter to play.
When I got them, I played the amp for about 15 minutes the way I usually play it, and then I replaced the speakers and left every setting the way it was and played it again. Acording to these reviews (the bad ones) I imagined, that I would have to turn down the treble on the amp, but no. It was fine. Sound was good and clear. Playing slow cords, I somehow ended up playing them a bit country-ish.
Driven single note bends defenetely have more ring to them. The bass is a bit flabby, but it was like that with the other speakers as well and I don't play that sort of guitar anymore.
There are probably speakers out there that are way better, but these are fine and for what I'm after, they fit the bill.
Reliability
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5
I havent been giggin' with them yet, nor have I rehearsed with my rock band with them, so I don't know yet. It is easier to damage alnico speakers than caramics, or so I've heard, so we will see. I will post again, when I have used them more extensively.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
No experience.
Overall Rating
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8
I've been playing for about 15 years. I'm a teacher and a musician. This amp, is a Fender Concert Reverb Pro Tube Series. I've re-tubed it. I use a g&l legacy strat guitar with a Seymore Duncan lil'59 humbucker in the saddle position. I also use a Guild Starfire V from 1967, but I haven't tried it with these speakers.
I play rock/jazz.
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