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Peavey Backstage Plus

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Price New Peavey Backstage Plus @ Musician's Friend
Manufacturer URL http://www.peavey.com/
Features 8.0 (26 responses)
Sound Quality 7.3 (26 responses)
Reliability 9.3 (26 responses)
Customer Support 9.8 (6 responses)
Overall Rating 7.7 (24 responses)
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Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: USD 125 USED
Submitted 03/11/2008 at 12:39pm by Buglecorps
Email: dl-lm at att<dot>net

Features : 8
Mid '80s production SS 1x10 combo 35 watts LOUD
Suprisingly versitle, does every thing from a Fender clean to a Marshall growl,as usual W/ older amps we must warn the yougsters NOT A METAL AMP! (although it would be great as power for a pedal based metal rig)

Not really a channel switcher, it has a controllable one knob boost similar to a "fat' switch which PV called "Saturation" this is foot switchable W/ optional footswitch, has line in/out jack which can function as a basic EFX loop by using a Y cord, headphone jack..e band EQ with mid boost (pull the high switch) , and bright switch (pull the pre amp vol), pretty loaded for it's time, and discounting the lack of multi efx not bad for today..does have spring 'verb..which is footswitchable.

Sound Quality : 7
Sound's decent..has a nice bark W/ a Tele..not too bright, does OK W buckers, but seems to be at it's best W/ Fender style products..can be noisy at high gain, but again.. well see above!

Reliability : 10
PV products from this era were designed to last basicaly forever...

Customer Support : 10
Incredible, this amp is over 20 years old& you can still get the footswitch and the Owners Manual from PV...try that with some of the other big makers. BTW if you have this amp and DON'T have the owners manual get on the PV website and download one..it's free and VERY informative..many people who think they don't like PV amps simply don't understand how they work, or how to set them.

Overall Rating : 8
20+ years playing,gear comes & goes, but this is a great small gig amp. Does all of the things that the incredibly overrated Fender Super Champ does and the PV is 1/4 the price!


Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: USD 130
Submitted 01/03/2008 at 11:45pm by jd

Features : 8
35-Watt, solid state combo with a single 10" speaker (not 8" speaker like some have written below). Bought in 1985 new for $130 I think.

Sound Quality : 8
Very Loud Amp for 35W. I've owned it for 22 years and I've never got to play with the volume above 5/6 (even live). It's twice as loud as my Marshall MG30. Plays easily over un-mic'd rock drums.

The sound is not smooth, but rather punchy at high volumes; some might love that. With a strat it is very bright (must tone down the treble).

Spring Reverb is classic. Saturation is a lil muddy by today's standards.

Reliability : 10
They dont make them like this anymore. Like a tank, not like the stuff today made in China, etc. Never had an issue with this amp in 22 years.

Customer Support : 9
No problems yet.

Overall Rating : 8
A solid 8 or 9. Not a 10 on tone in my book, but very nice.


Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: USD 130
Submitted 04/15/2007 at 05:31pm by terra_firma

Features : 9
bought new in late April 1984. one input. pre/post volumes. saturation. 3 band EQ. brightness pull pot. thickness pull pot. pre-in/power-out (i have no idea what that is...haven't used it except for recording at times - out seems to deactivate the speaker, so that i can hear the monitors). reverb (great reverb). headphone jack (too loud, will destroy your phones...they started to sizzle after one attempt to use the jack, never tried it again). 1 eight inch speaker.

my style is classic crunch rock [Zeppelin, Ramones, Mother's Finest], but i play everything from funk, jazz, mellow r&b, country and acoustic sounds [mid 80s Yamaha acoustic, sunburst with the spikey pickguard with Dean Markley pickup which sounds great, although i prefer to mic it].

Sound Quality : 8
my, how an opinion can change. when i first bought this amp i thought it sounded like an air-raid siren, but after reading the manual [pre and post volumes should NEVER equal more than 10...eg. pre at 3, post at 7 for clean.] and getting used to the solid-state tone, this amp has served me well for 23 years. although it is a practice amp, i have gigged for years with it and it is loud enough to be heard over a practice band [unless Tightrope is the drummer : )]. if more volume is needed, there has always beena PA in use, and it sounds great mic'd live with a humbucking guitar.

not as full as a tube amp, but i usually set the pre-volume at 6 and the post at 5 [ok so that's 11...but isn't that what we all want ?] with no problems, and the saturation at about 3-to-7 for more fullness and warmth. brightness switch "on" at all times, thickness switch "off" at all times. the thickness switch sounds horrible, even with single coil pickups. reverb at 2 [!!!] is enough to contour to a nice full round sound. more reverb will give you that exaggerated reverb sound that sticks in ppls minds, which i used at one point for "flash", but now i'm back to "tasteful". : )

Reliability : 10
have used it for 23 years without a backup. i have NEVER had a problem with this amp - other than when i first bought it, there was a "Burrrrrrrrt" buzz at certain frequencies. Tobo Sounds fixed it immediately and i have had NO PROBLEMS with it for 23 years [except for once a couple of years ago the power just died on me. then it came back to life with no explaination...and the time a couple of years ago when i was trying to outcrank Tightrope in a jazz group, by cranking it up to 15 and i started to get a sizzling buzz, but she seems to have calmed back down now.] for the record i will say relatively NO PROBLEMS regarding reliability.

Customer Support : 10
never having had to deal with customer support rates a 10 in my book.

Overall Rating : 8
i have been playing for 32 years. i've been around and know what i like. i'm old school. i like a simple amp that sounds good for clean and distortion. i've never had high-end gear, although now i'm attempting to upgrade. i have played a 1969 orange competition stripe 3 pickup Mustang [Schaller S6 strat types, with a 1978 DiMarzio PAF in the middle] since '85 and since '98 an Epiphone Special II [stock - one volume, one tone, simple, and plenty of crunch]. i usually use amp distortion, and although an Ibanez TS-9 is the perfect sound (to my ears) i've never gotten around to getting one.

i also have an Epiphone Joe Pass that i haven't really played enough to give a qualified review, but on my few tries with it the Backstage Plus was not at all warm enough like it should be through a decent jazz amp. but "one never knows....do one" ? it may turn out to be servicable.

it's not a tube amp, but it has NEVER been in the shop either. back when it developed that buzz a coupla years ago, i checked out the newer Peaveys. the comparable red face-plate model seemed to sound and operate exactly the same as my 1984 Backstage Plus.

i am currently upgrading to a Valvestate or Ampeg for ampage. and getting either an Epiphone SG Custom or Fender Telecaster Deluxe (don't like the flat beck on the Tele though).

i also have a Schecter Omen-6 which is deliciously warm for mellower grooves. i have bought an AllParts LRO-B bullet trussrod, 7.25 radius neck for the Schecter [as i can't stand flat fretboards] that i haven't put on yet.

after reading reviews here for a few years, i felt i must make a report on the quality of this baby.


Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 11/04/2006 at 09:53pm by Rattman

Features : 9
I own THREE of these 'Backstage Plus' amps. All 3 were made during the '80's according to the serial numbers. These are single-channel, 35Watt RMS solid state guitar amps, with 10" speakers and a good-sounding reverbs, plus a nice preamp saturation set-up.
I paid $95 for the most expensive to $55 for the least expensive of the three.
All three amps have been completely taken apart, repainted, chrome shined and all knobs repainted and coated with a poly clear coat to make them shine. All three are plenty LOUD even without using an effects pedal, but I always use a Boss GT-3 or a Korg so these 'Plus' amps are dangerous to stand directly in front of, so I rarely do!

Sound Quality : 9
I'd have to say these amps ARE loud enough for small venues as long as you aren't thrashing. But gigging is your intention, replace the stock speaker with an Eminence or similar beefy speaker that will breaks up nicely with good efficient power transfer.
The distortion is 'ok'..good crunch..take your TIME and be PATIENT with this and ALL Peaveys. There is a definate learning curve of trial and error mixing the EQ and the 'saturation' to obtain your 'tone'. These generally are NOT noisy amps, but some of those previous posters are real goofballs that have no idea how to treat musical equipment.. not maintaining their amps to make them last.. so they don't! So don't blame Peavey for your own lack of common sense.. abuse is a sign of laziness and lack of maturity.

I play good guitars: Fender and Gibson. Humbuckers DO sound better thru the Backstage Plus.. single coils do tend to sound thin.. but that can be a good tone too if you know how to utilize it.

Reliability : 10
Very dependable. I've had ONE Peavey bite the dust so far. I bought a 'Backstage 30' brand-new in 1979 in Phoenix, and in 2003 the power supply finally went bad. I gave the amp away to a music store. They fixed it and sold it. So it lives on locally with someone else.

I love Peavey Support and I love their website. They filled one order of parts for me this year: knobs & feet. Good price, fast enough delivery.

Customer Support : No Opinion
The warranty on all my 'Backstage Plus' amps are long-ago expired.

Overall Rating : 9
I've been playing since I was 14. I have lots of good gear, I don't scrimp on gear.. since you generally get what you pay for.
Have a early '90's Strat, and a much older Les Paul 'Black Beauty' Custom. Also a Korg pedal and two Boss GT-3 multi-effects pedals. I own more Peavey amps than is allowed by law, so I'm soon going to be giving two of them away to people I love. One is a 'Backstage 30' that I bought only last Wed on eBay. I restored this 31 year-old amp to a very good condition..replacing the speaker and power cord plus plenty of paint and 'Armour-All'. Looks and sounds great!


Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: US $125.
Submitted 03/17/2006 at 08:25pm by alan souza

Features : 9
I have no idea when this amp was made. I was looking for the smallest amp that I could find that had reverb and a foot switchable distortion. I found it used in a music store an purchased it for $125. Probably the best money I have ever spent on an amp. I have a black face twin that I have been carrying around since the 60's and 5 hernias later I decided to find an amp that would work for most gigs. I have only used the twin twice in the last 15 years. I love it but can't carry it.
The backstage plus if very versitle. And has great tone usually. Sometimes if I have to play really soft it is hard to get the sound I want. It is a used instrument and when I crank it up with distortion it makes some really scary sounding noises. I thought it was the speaker but tried a diffent one and it didn't help. I took it to someone to check out and he said it wasn't worth fixing the problem. I dissagree if it is fixable and will someday look for a second opinion. I have used it for jazz, blues, rock, country, and at school where I taught for class and after school jams. It always worked and was loud enough. I even purchased a Bandit 65 to have more volume, but hardly ever use it.
A great feature is the trebble pull switch for a fat tone. The one on my pre gain doesn't work so I don't know how it sound. I also like that it has treble, mid range and bass tone controls.
I tried running a line out to the sound system and didn't care for the sound. We usually use a mike if we are recording through the system.

Sound Quality : 9
I have played a Fender tele, a Fender Strat, a Gibson Les Paul Signature, a G & L tele, and a Graziano Hulicaster ukulele. It works well with all of them because of the tonal variety you can dial up. It's more guitar sounding on the ukulele than I like but it is fun if I want that sound. This uke works great with distortion and wah, but usually I go through the sound system or a Roland Keyboard amp.
You have to add some pre gain to get volume out of the clean channel, so, you have to be careful to not get distortion. The nice thing is that if you take your time setting it up you can get a little crunch with the volume up an your guitar and clean with it down a little. I like the reverb sound compared to all of the new amps I have tried. I play in a Hawaiian group that does some surf music and I like the spring reverb sound after using a twin for all these years before.
I like the variety it gets, but I am more of a jazz, blues sound of person. My students like all the new pedals etc. But they loved the sounds of my pod running through it.

Reliability : 10
This amp has been like a good luck charm for reliability. I have never taken a backup and I know it has a problem at high distorted volumes, but it always works. My twin needs tubes every time I turn around. I keep looking for an amp that I like more that is small enough to carry but so far no luck. This thing has really been a great asset to my music life.

Customer Support : No Opinion
I know nothing about customer service.

Overall Rating : 10
I've been playing since 1957. I have 2 tele's, 1 strat, a Les Paul Signature, Fender pro junior, Kustom kga 10 fx and a black face twin. I have already started to look for another one, because I don't know how long this amp is going to live.
I love the weight, the tone controls, reverb and distortion.
I am constantly comparing it to my other amps and it really does hold it's own. I choose it because of it's size and having a good sounding reverb and distortion. We bought a newer one for school and it sounded really bad.
I wish it had a direct out that kept the tone. (I need to try the headphone jack, but, then I'll loose the monitor value of it. )
Weight for weight this little amp is great.


Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 05/11/2005 at 10:22am by Del
Email: dnichjr<at>yahoo dot com

Features : 9
Purchased new in '87, and i am pretty sure it is an '86 model. I bought it at the time as a small practice amp. 10" with 35 watts, single channel, three tone adjusts, a saturation feature, effects loop, headphone jack, real reverb.

It mostly sat in various closets for something like 15 years, it really didn't compare to the distortion that I got out of my Fender Twin, so I just didn't play it. It still looks new, and the power cord tag is still on it. Then in the last year or two when i was looking for a small solid state amp to play jazz/clean on i took it out and started reconsidering it.

Recently changed the speaker for a new Eminence Copperhead ($25 on Ebay), that was lots of bang for little buck.

It works well for around the house to small gigs. I should give it an 7-8 here for the saturation effect, but i am going to give it 9 because everything else is great and solid for a small light weight amp, and there is actually something useful in the saturation more on that below.

Sound Quality : 8
I couldn't get it to work for rock. The saturation, especially with the original speaker sounded like a million paper bags tearing at once. But... With a new speaker, and when i started using it for clean work, adding in the saturation in very small amounts, and fiddling with the pre/post a bit, i found that i could do a lot better at getting a light breakup tone, sort of a vintage sound. Played with a large archtop, i felt it did a good job nailing a Montgomery-ish tone.

Also I have used it by running the guitar into a 10 band EQ then putting the EQ in at the effects loop, bypassing the pre all together. This gets it a real clean, almost DI sound, and until i finally figured out the pre/post adjustments, it also eliminated the hiss i was getting using the preamp. You can dail out this hiss balancing the pre/post gain.

There is an 'art' to tweaking this thing.

I find it usuable. Like a lot of small amps it needs some room to breath. Played im my small 10x10 home office, everything sounds pretty crappy. But take into a bigger room, esp. with high ceiling and it sounds much better

Reliability : 10
VERY durable, i don't think they have the build quality in this class of amps like this any more. Real spring reverb. Made in USA, solid, chromed metal corners, and strap handles, heavy tolex, and sturdy grill cloth. You still see these things selling on ebay for as much as $150? go figure, not sure but i think that is about what i paid for it.

While it did spend alot of time in the closet, nothing seems to have failed yet

Customer Support : No Opinion
No Idea

Overall Rating : 8
Good enough for clean work, with 35 watts it is loud enough for small gigs, in the right forum (small ensemble/light drums, jazz group, solo, etc). I had it all these years really couldn't use it much, i now have found a music style that seems to suit it better, and I found the magic hand shake to get what i want out of it.

A modern upgrade speaker is a real big imrpovement that is if the guts are all still in order, mine was.

If it were stolen, i might try to find one on Ebay for $50-$100, spend $50 for after market speaker. I haven't seen a new one with this tone for those price points. And it is solid compared to the latest Chinese fare. Now for $300-$400, i would probably look at a Roland Cube 30/60 or maybe a small Fender.


Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: US $50.00 used
Submitted 11/21/2004 at 09:15am by Paul Metcalf

Features : 10
Single channel, pre(pull for bright boost), saturation, post, low, mid, high (pull for thick aka mid boost), reverb, fx loop, headphone out, and on the back a footswitch jack for saturation and reverb defeat.

This one was made in 1986, and it is the second one of these I've owned. The first was one I bought from a friend used and it was made in 1984.

Sound Quality : 10
As I said this is my second one. Wish I never traded in my first one! I went through a number of rigs lookng for "that sound". A late 60's Fender Bassman, a Marshall bluesbreaker reissue, a couple of Vox AC15TBX reissues (ones I also wish I never got rid of). My first guitar was a Les Paul copy and didn't have that sound I was looking for with the Peavey. The Bassman was closer, and the Marshall was it, but 50watts is LOUD! After changing styles a bit I went for the classic Rickenbacker into a Vox sound. Great sound, just not that versitile. So after quitting for a bit (ok, ok money problems came and went and so did the rigs and axes..LOL) I picked up a Squier Strat for cheap money. Found this Peavey for cheap money and man! The tone it has with the Strat is unbelievable! This is the combo this amp needed all those years ago! The sound is fuller than others I've heard with this setup (I use 11's on the Strat for a fatter tone) and the reverb is as lush as, dare I say, A Deluxe or Twin reverb. Good clean tones and decent distorted sounds (aka Layla album) although not quite as good as a tube amp, but it is close. Sort of like a Tweed Champ, but with reverb.
The first Backstage + I had was not that noisy with the humbuckers, but with the Strat, this one has the typical hum to be expected with single coils. Its ok though, adds to the sound! A great practice/club amp. (doesn't everyone mike through the PA now anyway?) If I had to give this one up I would buy another in a heartbeat. But for now I'm not giving it up!

Reliability : 10
Its a Peavey, need I say more?

More reliable than my old Bassman, or my second Vox AC15 reissue.

Customer Support : 10
Neither one of the Backstages I owned had a warranty, both were used, but I suppose the warranty would have run out around the time The Smiths broke up!

Peavey's website is great, I dealt with them years ago to get an owners manual for my first Backstage, now its even easier. Its on the website as a PDF file!

Overall Rating : 8
Fantastic amp for a Strat player looking for a versitile recording amp or practice amp.

If it were lost or stolen I would buy another. But for now I'm not letting history repeat itself by getting rid of it! Its mine, get your own!!! LOL


Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: US $150.00 used
Submitted 07/21/2004 at 09:06am by Brewer Shettles

Features : 10
Year: It says 86D on the back label. Amp runs great.

Sound Quality : 10
Writer / Producer - playing blues rock with a '74 Fender Tele guitar modded with EMG pickups. I use the neck pickup in my home project recording studio. Since the guitar has active pickups, this amp rocks when playing with a live band/drums. When recording, I use low volumes on the amp (NYC Studio Apartment) - and still get a great sound. I use SM57 mics into a Telefunken v76 mic pre cranked up very high into a Dbx160A compressor into a Mona 9624 ADDA converter recording at 9632.

General playback settings: Pre (2/3) / Sat (3) / Post (4/5) / Low EQ (6/7) / Mid EQ (6/7) High EQ (9). Rvb (3).

Sometimes I use brightness, but generally it's off. Read this forum and cleaned the jacks w/WD40 and the contacts. Let it dry. If you turn the amp on when still wet with WD40, you'll soon see smoke if any got on the transformer! Opened the head and cleaned out dust especially making sure 1/4" input jack contacts were working ok (bent then back into place). Reverb unit had faulty RCA jacks (broken wires soldered to the RCA jacks). Replaced with quality RCA jacks.

If noise appears, it usually is due to:
1. Another electrical appliance (Vornado fan) plugged into the same electrical outlet as the amp. Turning off the fan cuts off amp noise.

2. Position of guitar. See 1 first.

Use minimum distortion (Saturation: 2 / 3) . I like clean rock blues tone. Use pedals when necessary.

Reliability : 10
Open the head and check contacts of the input jack. Check reverb RCA jacks. Other than that it holds its own.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Downloaded manual off website!!

Overall Rating : No Opinion
I use the Juicer pedal by Analogman - it makes this amp rock even more. www.analogman.com


Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: trade a shity Squier strat for it used
Submitted 07/15/2004 at 03:54pm by Pee Vee

Features : 8
By dating some of the Electrical parts, and by the serial number, I've figure this amp was made the last week of 1985 and the serial number is from 1986. (says 86A or 6A).

I basically play, classic rock and blues along with counrty. and this amp is perfect for those styles.

It's a single channel amp, the layout is just like your typical early 80's Peavey product. The only thing that sucks about this amp is that it should of had a Volume knob for Clean channel. But other than that I have no other beefs with it.

I would like to mention, having dealt with other Peavey products made around this time, the output jacks do get pretty shitty and need to be clean with a contact cleaner or WD-40. Mainly the one on the foot switch, if this jack get dirty, it will make your Overdrive/ distortion really weak sounding. Also typical of old Peavey's, My control knobs sounded like they have sand in them, I sprayed some cleaner into them and now they're fine.

I love the reverb on this amp, as somebody mentioned, it's REAL and I would like to also point out that the tank dates back to 1976.
( Peavey must of had some old shit lying around) I hated the Pre Out/ Pre In jack, so I removed the headphone jack and use the hole to make an effect loop out, so now I don't need a Y-cord to have the effect loop function.

Sound Quality : 9
If your a young punk who wants heavy assed distortion to the point is sounds like mush, then this amp is NOT for YOU. But if you like a sweet rock/ blues tone, and everything in between, for a SS amp this thing does kick some ass! one thing I wish it would have is, more dynamics mainly when using a strat ,when you roll down the volume knob,it doesn't clean up as much as I would like. but, if you use a TS-9 pedal set to clean you can roll down the guitar volume, it's got it going on.

Reliability : 7
It's a vintage Peavey, this mutha is built like a tank! need I say more?

Customer Support : 10
found the phone number on a tag which was still attached to the power cord! I called it and to my surprise it's the same number for Peavey, I talked to a tech and he gave my their web address and I went there and downloaded the user manual. warranty? LmFaO!
uh,It went out during the cold war!

Overall Rating : 10
been playing since 1980, I went through loads of gear, so I do know a thing or two about this subject....

Bottom line, It's kinda sad to see how far we come. back when this amp was made, it had some quality and it was built in the USA. Most important... it was sold cheap. yea, I know,I know.... it's a SS amp so it can't be that good. that's a load of bullshit. one thing,the old Peavey's have that ANY of these new SS amps DON'T is: TONE!!! New amps are made in God knows where and Out of crap to boot. it's funny, because you can find a old Peavey 2X12 combo for like $150.00 and for tone, it will SMOKE any modeling amp out there. I don't give a rip about how many new digtal effects are built into the amp,it still sucks! These,and any vintage Peavey amps are great buys and are well worth owning.


Product: Peavey Backstage Plus
Price Paid: N/A used
Submitted 04/04/2004 at 10:57pm by Anonymous

Features : 8
-I don't know what exact year this speaker was made in, ...but from what I understand it was made somewhere in the mid '80s. It's been our home for a long time, ....when my dad bought it, I was only 8 or 9...and now i'm 26, ....so it's been around for a while.

-The amp is perfect for practice and pretty versitile for most things. It's not an amp for really harsh playing though, ...won't cut it for that

-it has knobs for pre and post gain, presence, high eq, mid eq, low eq, reverb, and you can accentuate the highs if you pull on a certain knob.

-I use this amp in my home for practicing, ...it's not a good amp for playing live because there's not enough power, ...the only use it has for live is if you are going to use it's pre amp as part of an efx loop going to the main board. But otherwise, don't count on it for anything live. I find that for practice at home, ..it sounds really good....you can get that clean warm sorta-dirty sparkly sound out of it which I enjoy very much

-this is a solid state amp (ie not tube)

Sound Quality : 8
-The guitar I use with this is a Schecter C-1, ...it has 2 humbuckers

-the speaker sounds fine with the style of music which I play at home which is anything from classic rock, to country to christian stuff, ..to jazzy sounding things. If you're practicing in these styles, this speaker will work.

-if you crank the volume up more than 2/3 of the way it starts to get noisy, ...i never need to crank it up this high for practice at home, ..so it's not an issue.

-As far as sounds you can get anything from clean and polished, ...to dirty and grungy, ......to a mix of both, .....to very distorted ......it does it's best jobs for anything that is not too harsh...dont' count on this speaker for metal or anything like that. It's good for 'slightly' distorted edge to the sound, ..but not more than that. My favorite setting is when i push the pre gain up about 2/3 of the way and pull the post gain down to about half way, ..and add a touch of reverb, ...gives my guitar that really clean sparkly and slighty dirty sound, ..i like it alot

-don't count on this speaker for extreme distortions, ..it's not brutal, ..it'll start sounding lame if you push it too much...thins out

Reliability : 10
considering this speaker has been sitting in our house for almost 20 years, ...i would have to say it is a very well made speaker. We have never had any problems with this speaker. It's built like a tank. Its been dropped many times ...and it's still working great. very very dependable

Customer Support : No Opinion
never had to deal with them

Overall Rating : 8
great speaker for practice for anything from classic rock to jazz to country to anything in between, ...but don't count on it for anything too harsh (ie extreme distorted lead, ..metal etc)

overall,..great for what it was made for: that's practice.

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