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Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50

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Features 6.3 (12 responses)
Sound Quality 9.3 (16 responses)
Reliability 8.0 (10 responses)
Customer Support 9.0 (1 response)
Overall Rating 9.3 (14 responses)
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Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 02/09/2008 at 07:12pm by Johan

Features : No Opinion
I own a 1964 (?) croc skin Treble n Bass 50 which was fading away in a basement until a friend of mine gave it to me and I had it repaired by an amp tech for a very reasonable price. Very basic features as stated elsewhere - it's from the 60's, remember? It's a crank-n-go kinda amp. Standard 4 ECC83/2 EL34 tube setup. Forgot the name of the rectifier tube (GZ54?). I've tried using the bass inputs aswell as the normal inputs and they're both cool for guitar depending on what tone you're after. I'd like to play bass thru it just to hear the sweet sound I think it would make. I use my amp thru an old Marshall 1960A stock cab in our rehearsal room and it has way more than enough power for that. Gigs shouldn't be a problem. I won't rate the features coz I really think you can't blame Selmer for building an amp with just the basic features back in '64.

Sound Quality : 8
Kind of a mix between Vox cleans at lower volume and Marshall crunch at high volume.

I use a 2004 Gibson SG Special w/ stock pickups and a 1995 Fender Mex Strat w/ stock pickups. I mostly play late 60's - late 70's heavy rock with a modern touch and the TnB suits that style well if you're not into massive gain. I like a slightly cleaner tone for a lot of the rhythm parts and I use a Keeley BD-2 Blues Driver Phat Mod to boost it for leads and to add moderate amounts of gain for rhythm parts. I also use a CryBaby GCB-95 wah and a Carl Martin Red Repeat Delay pedal in front of the amp. The noise level is not really an issue coz there's not much noise coming out of the amp.

The normal inputs sound well rounded with clear treble using the SG but it does get a bit piercing with the bridge p-ups on the Strat. Could be the sheer volume though and to be honest I think most amps would sound roughly the same given the same circumstances. The bass and mids are absolutely gorgeous and sweet and far more full than on my Marshall JCM 900. A big and robust tone.

With the neck pickups on both guitars it's a bit more mellow and that's where I find my sweet spot. I really need to play around with the bass n treble controls more to be able to say how versatile this amp can be, but as far as classic and full tone goes, this beauty is the best I've heard so far.

The bass inputs produce a milder treble and a BIG low end without getting boomy.

When you crank the amp volume past the halfway point it starts to break up nicely and responds well to dynamic playing. When you dime the volume you're in early AC/DC territory if you roll off the treble past noon. Close to the "If you want blood" live album. Kinda like a good Marshall tone to my ears. Make sure you're wearing ear plugs :)

This amp will in itself never give you a heavy metal kind of gain, but I don't want that anyway. As this amp was used by the Beatles and the Animals in the early days of their respective careers you'd be kidding yourself if you wanted a super-saturated Zakk "Boring" Wylde tone. That said I've blasted the input on the normal channel with my Keeley BD-2 set on 75% gain and 50% on the level pot just to put it to the test and it does bite back a LOT more than you'd expect! I give it an 8. If you love crystal clean tones to a "classic rock" amount of overdrive it's pretty damn close to a 9 or 10.

Reliability : No Opinion
Reliability?

Well, I've only had it for about a year and so far it's been nothing but good to me. Thick, full tone every time I switch it on. We rehearse twice a week for 2?? hours at a time. The tubes inside are less than a year old and still sound great.

I'd always bring a backup to a gig anyway no matter what amp I had.

Customer Support : 9
Selmer has been defunct for many years now. Because it's a no frills amp it should be a piece of cake for any reasonably skilled tech to fix. Mine took a week to fix, but the tech had a lot on his hands, so...

ECC83/EL34 tubes are among the most common combinations anyway (anyone ever heard of Marshall?).

Overall Rating : No Opinion
Been playing 15 years. I also own the ill-reputed JCM 900 4500 which was a bargain and I think the JCM sounds good too if you know how to use it and what to use it for. If my Selmer was stolen I'd kill the one who stole it 5 times and try to hunt another one down for sure. There's really not a lot to hate about this amp. Great, open sound...good tone controls (only two of them per "channel"), little or no noise, common tube combinations. It'd be cool to have a master volume but that's really asking too much since it's 44 years old or so. Really cool design aswell - I love the croc skin!!

Compared to my JCM 900 the cleans are just wonderfully open and full...and they're pretty clean until you get close to noon on the dial. I really like the "Marshall clean" aswell, this is just a different animal altogether.

For a small 50 watt amp it really is a gem. I don't think I'll ever sell it - the sound it makes is just too damn sweet!


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: GBP 375
Submitted 11/19/2007 at 11:56am by john

Features : 8
I've got the silver fascia version,the SV.
2 channels British compact monster with a sound to die for. High build quality with universal power transformer (which means you can use the amp anywhere in the world,without buying external transformers)

Sound Quality : 10
Sound quality? Are you joking? At lower volumes,you can get any Beatles tones. The Brilliant channel is perfect for that.
However,that's not why I bought this amp. I always use a Weber powerbrake,and with this amp at full volume,you'll get OUTSTANDING power amp distortion. Sounds very much like a Marshall plexi. With the appropriate guitars,I can get outstanding tones from Clapton to Hendrix to Gilmour and beyond.
It's amazing how these old,simple amps,can just blow out of the water all the modern 4 channel amp stuff!
The amp,at max volume, provides a bulldozer-size crunch,and it's also really quiet,even with a lot of boost! Excellent,and very loud too.

Reliability : No Opinion
These amps have very high build quality. Hand-wired circuitry,Marshall JTM-type transformers,excellent noise screening panels

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : 10
Kick ass amp...these will start disappearing too soon or later. Grab one while you can!


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 02/12/2007 at 06:06pm by mansonpengy

Features : 6
Bought my t and b in 1980 for playing lead guitar when I was starting out. I think its a late 60s mark 2. Someone stole my cab and I stupidly bought a Peavey Special 120w combo instead. I now use the Selmer for my bass.

Features are about as basic as you can get. No master volume for example. But the bass and treble tone controls seem to give more variety of sounds than many modern amps with lots of knobs. Not sure why this is.

Sound Quality : 10
Amp gives a surprising variety of sounds. Although my switches need cleaning and on the treble channel it often gets fuzzy unless I rotate them a few times with the power off.

The bass channel is great. Loads of beefy warm tone. Pull out one of the bottles at the back if you want good distortion at a lower volume.

I used this with a big 15" cab with my bass and sounded great. Cab was too big so I sold it. Now I am playing bass again I wish I had it back. I would welcome advice on what cab to get next for my bass.

Reliability : 8
A small tube failed once and I stuck something in to replace it that I found at random. It seemed to work. Hey its worked for 40 years and I really should get it serviced but I dont know where...............

Customer Support : No Opinion
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Overall Rating : 9
If it were lost I would be upset. Having had this, I would aspire to another old valve amp if I could find one.


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 01/22/2007 at 11:49am by Dirk

Features : 8
Hi. I??m the proud owner of a 64 Croc-skin-period T-n-B 50. I??m playing it with a 68 EB-3 Gibson and i like this Bass-Sound. So warm and deep. I always have an Les Paul Standard and if i play on the T-n-B i use both channels. I patch it with a small cable to get the best sound. The warmth from the bass channel and the brillance from the treble channel. I don??t need more than this.

Sound Quality : 10
I think i can make every sound i want with this amp. If i think at this amp i??m always smiling. I have some other valve-amps but the Selmer is my Favourite.

Reliability : 9
Never got a problem with it. Changed the valves a couple of weeks before.

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : 10
I think it was only luck i own this amp. It was in a big package. The owner died and his son sold all this stuff from his dad. It was a Rickenbacher 4001, a gibson EB-3, a Schaller KV-50 and the Selmer T-n-B 50 with the matching Goliath Speaker Cabinet. It was a very small price. For the whole package i paid 800 US $. I think i??ll never get this amp again for this price. He is my favourite. I got some Fender amps and a Marshall Plexi but this one makes me smile.


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: $ 190 (Australian $)
Submitted 05/25/2006 at 09:32pm by Phill Walker
Email: onebaratatime<at>hotmail dot com

Features : 10
Year - I purchased this amp new when I was 17 - that makes it 1969. It came with a dual 12#celestion cabninet that was on a swivel frame so you could angle the speakers up towards you as a player. Used it for bass with firts a small scale Vox bass guitar, then a Fender Precision. Now use it for steel guitar.

Styles - I have used this amp for almost 40 years as I evolved through different phases and instruments - blues, country, jazz - and now use it as a non-reverb stero amp with a Fender Steel King to play pedal and non-pedal steel through. As I require breadth & clarity the old Selmer is superb (I now use an EV TL15 bas bin on it - heresy indeed!)

Features - for the technical luddite like myself 2 channels (I have used the bass channell 99% of the time as i can use my guitars to get enuff tops). 2 Tone controls - Treble and bass - but used together you can easily tune your sound for different gigs. Too easy - why reduce the warm valve sound with any effects! Channel switching is achieved by manually extracting the lead from 1 channel & placing it in another. I wish it had a standby feature to support valve warm up.


All in all I guess I take this old baby for granted - if there was a fire I'd probably grab the Selmer first, the wife second!!!

Sound Quality : 10
My preferred setting with a Harmos 8-string steel guitar (Americana) is vol on 6, bass on 8, treble on 8.5 - using the "bass" channel.

Power - rated at 50 watts RMS - just breaks up enuff (warm as warm) to complement the clarity (and spring reverb) of the Fender Steel King. Hard to compare the sound as it is really unique - the best I can dio is warm and "flat".



Reliability : 8
Only broken once in 1981 when it fell from a moving van - case & valves shattered - local electronics guy had it back to me i 3 days - still using the replacement valves - changed them once (with chinese valves) and lost the sound.

Only issue with reliability is that the valves are upsidse down - to support knobs on top! Always check seating on a regular basis.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Can't remember warranty period - but have not neded any general repairs.

Overall Rating : 10
Had it for nearly 40 years - also own Yorkville 50 watt & 200 watt bass amps, Fender vibrolux (for making a strat sound perfect), several Kork microcubes -(tremendously flexible gear)and a Fender Steel King 200 watt amp.

Can't compare any of these to the Selmer.


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: US $500
Submitted 04/17/2006 at 05:41pm by zobra
Email: fender686 at yahoo<dot>com

Features : No Opinion
this is a MK II model, with the diamond grill cloth, and the tube rectifier. mine's got some vintage, but non-original tubes in it, they sound lovely and have never given me trouble. I've been told this is closer to 35 or 40 watts output than 50, from an electrical engineer. no standby switch, so when I turn it on, I just leave the volume controls turned down for a bit before I start playing. no mid knob either, just volume, treble, and bass. but I never miss the knobs it doesn't have.

Sound Quality : 10
I loooooove this amp. my other car is a 1484 silvertone twin twelve. this one gets more play, because the sound fills up the room more (more bass). I use it with an avatar 2x12 front loading cabinet, loaded with eminence GB12 speakers (recommended), and using an open back panel. (did not like the celestion Vintage30+G12H30 combo, or weber alnico blue dogs 30 watt). I have the cab set up vertically and I put it on the floor, so the speakers sort of point at my knees. this amp has a rich, sort of "wet" sound...easter chocolate somebody said, that sounds about right. these days I stick to the bass channel (in an evolution, I used to play the treble channel, then bridged them, now I'm onto the bass...and playing louder). the bass channel, at moderate volume, has enough treble for me (I leave the treble knob from full lately, to noon or so formerly), and I love it because it puts out great low end with the speaker cabinet I use. the treble channel is a lot thinner in the bass. bridging them works though if you want a middle ground. so they really did name this well with the "treble and bass"--it can put out tons of each. it does break up nicely when cranked past halfway on the volume, but that's too loud to do much where I live...I like turning it up to around 9 to 11 o'clock and you can feel the saturation of the tubes working to give this nice shimmering clean sound. loud enough for band use for sure. there is nothing like cranking up a vintage tube amp...I'm in love.

Reliability : No Opinion
has been dependable for me, perhaps because it was serviced by the previous owner. it does have the occasional weirdo noise, and sometimes I leave it on longer than I should because at american voltage (there is an internal switch on the transformer) the power lamp doesn't work. I'd like to have this corrected.

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : 10
bought this because of the syd barrett connection, and found my own sound with it. the "syd tone" is a really complicated chain of signal that I have decided definitely has to do with that binson echorec tape echo device, and a good fender guitar, and probably studio reverb devices (I'm sure the microphones and preamps/soundboard also play a significant part in this tone)

I'd also like to try the ceriatone JTM-45 clone to see how it compares (it's a new botique-ish amp that one could actually afford)


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: 45 (Sterling) used
Submitted 03/03/2006 at 10:17am by hackneyslim
Email: hackneyslim<at>yahoo dot com

Features : 5
Mine is a 196...4? model. Two channels, treble, bass volume each. They all work. On switch. Little light to say the light is working.

This is not rocket science, this is from when amps were amps and didn't make coffee or speak French.

It is covered in some kind of tolex, with the famous crocodile skin on the bottom only, for some reason. The front is dark cloth with the gold Selmer logo on the right. There is a leather carrying handle on the top. All valve interior, but I don't go in there. Never changed the valves when I was using it.

Mine really was a steal; I found it in Notting Hill Music Exchange, a second-hand shop staffed by sub-humans, although the guy I bought it off for 45 quid knew he could have got 250 out of me for it. The next week I found another on Denmark St for 275. Ha! This was, er, 1990.

There is a label sellotaped to the top, and written on it is "Mr Belmont. 27 pounds and six shillings." If you are reading this, Mr Belmont, cheers, mate!


Sound Quality : 10
I play a Lawsuit Les Paul and a home-made Strat ("The Tadcaster") through it. I play rock and blues, looking for that early AC/DC lead sound, with a little Deguello-era Top.

Imagine you want to try for a Clapton 'Hideaway' sound. Ok, two choices - plug in EVERYTHING in STEREO with LIGHTS and FANS and DIALS and GET FRUSTRATED when it doesn't work, or you can try guitar, lead, selmer and nail it first time. This amp is not as harsh or screamy as a Marshall. not as shrill or polite as a Fender, not as thick or beefy or bottomy as a Vox, but it is somewhere beautifully in the middle.

It is a valve amp and sounds like it. It never broke on me the few years I gigged it. It wasn't noisy at all. Above 4 it just got nicer, not louder. I gigged it on 6. It would wind up really nice if you push the guitar volume, or go all nice and smooth if you pulled back a little.

I used to run a couple of pedals through it, but eventually realised I was gilding the lily, frankly.

Reliability : 10
Never a single problem.

My mate decided to out-vintage me and pulled out a Grampian Vibro-master for one gig - we called it the Gas Fire - and unfortunately, erm, it didn't work much. I glowed with pride.

However, due to its great age, I retired it. If I ever used it again, I would deffo take a back up. But not a Grampian.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Yeah, hi, I bought an amp thirty years after the guarantee ran out. No, I was, like, one year old when you made it and I didn't know that you don't exist any more. Ok, yeah, thanks.

Overall Rating : 10
Been playing 26 years. I have owned a 1966 50w plexi, and a blue-speakered AC30 amongst other things. The Selmer is bewteen the two. Don't really care for Vox's, but the Marshall was nice enough.

I wish it wasn't so frightening to take it out from under the stairs and switch it on and see if the National Grid melts or something. It is too easy to chuck a Sessionette in the back of the motor and not worry about things getting broken, stolen or just beer on them.

If someone stole it, I would have to skin him with a broken bottle and roll him in salt in front of his burning family. For starters. Then I would work myself up into a temper.


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: #
Submitted 05/22/2003 at 02:18pm by Mac
Email: chill_35<at>excite dot com

Features : 7
My amp is a late 1960's early 1970's amp, two channels (hence name), very simple controls (but it does need to be complex)

Sound Quality : 10
It sounds ace, i'm glad i bought it. I am a bass player so of course i use the bass imputs, but my mates will use the lead ones and they all love it the variety achievable is amazing.

Reliability : 9
It has stayed well for me all though i have nt really given it a good test yet

Customer Support : No Opinion
there is no need for C/S

Overall Rating : 10
i love my amp it is so nice and is a beauty


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: US $400 used
Submitted 06/27/2002 at 06:44pm by Anonymous

Features : 5
I have an early 70's selmer of the aluminum face variety, which I actually think is a pretty cool looking amp (not the prevailing opinion, I know). As far as features go it's very basic, just two channels, both with high and low inputs. No reverb, no channel switching, no nothing, just plug in and play (although there are imputs for an echo unit). Having the four input options does make for some interesting combinations though, like using a second cord to bridge from the bass inputs to the normal.

Sound Quality : 8
Very good sounding amp. I play lots of different guitars through it, strats, a peavey t-60, a harmony strat copy, an Ibanez Jem, and all seem to work well with the amp. The bass imputs work great for guitar as do the normal ones. For the most part the amp stays pretty clean and punchy until you crank it into the stratosphere where it starts to break up pleasantly. Nothing too brutal though.

Reliability : 10
Based on its age and overall condition I'd say this amp is very dependable. A quick peek inside reveals a lot of dust and aged components, but the amp still works great, and I've never had any problems with it.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Good luck trying to get the people that made this thing on the phone.

Overall Rating : 9
This amp is a great value. It's an all tube, loud, clean, and simple amp that can be found pretty cheap. It doesn't have a lot of versatility built in, but it's a great platform to add some stomp boxes, or other effects to. If you want an amp that will do it all, go get a line 6 (although trust me when I say that they don't do much of anything right). If you want a solid, affordable, tube amp then this is it.


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 06/27/2001 at 05:43pm by Matt Falder

Features : No Opinion
Features does'nt really apply to an amp this old. I think it come from the 60's, although one guy told me late 50's, which I can believe.
Anyway, its powered by 3 Ecc83 preamp valves (2 of which are still origonal-ish Mullards, hows that for durability), 2 output valves (EL 34's, I think), but - joy of joys - it also has valve rectification, but the model of valve has faded with age, so I can't say what it is. However, reading other reviews for this amp, I think it must be a GZ34.
The only feature it can really boast is twin channels, one for treble, one for bass.
It also has volume, bass and treble controls for each channel, but one can hardly call these 'features'.
Anyway, haven't modern guitarists gone a bit 'feature crazy' of late?
All the amp' emulators and multi-channel-super-hi-gain-plexi-whatsits. Surely the reason for having an amp' is its tone, and the Selmer has plenty of this.

Sound Quality : 7
The sound of the Selmer is (almost) perfect.
Truth be told, the treble channel is far too trebly, but this can be an advantage. I sometimes run my guitar through a homemade channel selector. My signal chain runs thus: Guitar (Fender '68 Reissue), Dunlop Crybaby Wah, Marshall Bluesbreaker 2 (of which, more in a mo'), Electro-Harmonix Big Muff (genuine 1970's), Boss CE2 chorus, Channel Selector. From here, I run the afforemention effects into the bass channel, and the same signal into the treble channel, via a Watkins Copycat. Since the Copycat naturally adds bass to the sound, it suits the treble channel perfectly, whilst the bass channel fills out the 'normal' sound. Also, this set up means that, when I turn on the copycat, I get twice as much sound. Groovy.
The only other complaint I will make, is not really the fault of the amp', just a law of nature. In order to make the amp' distort, one has to turn it all the way up. Unfortunately, 50 full watts of guitar does not agree with my neighbours, which is a shame.
However, the Bluesbreaker 2 has a boost mode, which encourages valve amps to overdrive at lower volumes, making it (almost) possible to capture the true tone of the amp at lower volumes. A fine idea, and opproximately 300% cheaper than a powerbrake.

Reliability : No Opinion
I'm not sure about this. I found it in an abandoned Multi-Storey Car Park, quite what it was doing there I don't know. Anyway, when I got it home, it was playing host to a small colony of spiders and other assorted crap.
Once I'd cleaned it out, I turned it on - fully expecting it to blow every fuse in the building - and to my surprise, it worked!
However, after a month or two of near constant use, it suddenly died. Being rather poor at the time, I retired it, and returned to my previous amp - a Roost. This was several years ago. Last month (as I was feeling rather flush), I took it to be fixed, where I was told the Transformer had blown, so I sent it away to be rewound. Since it returned it sounds better than ever.
The question of reliability is not - in this case - easy to answer, as there is no service history. In fact everything points towards it being quite unreliable, but the case is - I think you'll agree - quite unique.

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : No Opinion
As an overall rating, I will award it 11, for being supremely individual, and sounding great. Although other amps' of the same make and model undoubtedly exist, I feel that mine (especially since the transformer was rewound) must sound a little different. If it were to die in such a way that it could not be repaired, or - perish the thought - be stolen, I would never try to replace it, but persue my dream of owning a Marshall 'Bluesbreaker' Combo.


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: 75 (#) used
Submitted 05/19/2000 at 10:11am by Roderick
Email: N/A

Features : 6
I think my amp was made around about the early seventies. It's one of the ones with the unsightly aluminium fronts, although, personally, I don't really care. I generally play blues, rock and punk-rock amongst others and the sounds provided aren't really versatile enough at times although, a stomp-box can sometimes sort things out.
Single channel (3 ECC83, 2 EL34)
It's incredibly loud which is great, although this makes it harder to overdrive at low volumes.

Sound Quality : 10
I use a Fender Jag-Stang and a Gibson Les Paul Studio as my main guitars. At lower volumes you get an incredibly warm sparkly sound that I rekon Jimi Hendrix wouldn't be ashamed of. Crank it up, however and the beast is unleashed. It gains a sort of raunchy, bassy crunch that's not too far off of the sound of a Marshall. It is possible with the Les-Paul to drive the pre-amp tubes at low volumes although the sound can be a little rough (maybe I should change the original pre-amp valves for newer ones). Overall, as long as you can go somewhere to play this amp at full volume occasionally, (rehearsal rooms are great) then it will always put a smile on your face.

Reliability : 5
My 30-odd year old Mullard EL34 valves died about a year ago, so I got some Sovtek EL34 WXT valves which lasted two months. Fortunately they were guaranteed so I got some new ones for free. The guy suggested that I should have the bias adjusted, so I simply responded by saying &quot;It's a Selmer, for Christ's sake, there is no bias adjustment.&quot; (I may have exaggerated a little there, by the way). Anyway, I had the bias voltages checked by a technician and he said they were fine. I don't know whether I should trust it or not.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Selmer now make saxaphone cases, I think. The guarantee is definately finished and so is the company for that matter. Repairs arent that expensive (#20 for 2 EL34s).

Overall Rating : 9
I've been playing for about 3 years. Ive owned my selmer for about half that time. I Love its sound as I know it could never be matched. I love its look (she may be ugly, but she's mine). As a matter of fact, I'd probably start crying if I lost it. #75 isn't a lot of money for years of enjoyment.


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: I was given it!
Submitted 04/29/2000 at 04:19am by Anonymous

Features : No Opinion
Mid-sixties valve amp. Bass and Guitar inputs. Syd Barrett used it on 'Piper at The Gates of Dawn'. It also has a clean 'Shadows'-ey sound to it, (if you play a Fender-type guitar with heavy gauge strings). Despite its' supposed British Beat-boom heritage, not a blues-players amp at all.

Sound Quality : 10
Before I acquired this amp I was under the impression that Selmers were just British Stoneage monster amps. I mainly use it with a Fender Strat, but everything I've put through it (inc. keyboard - not necessarily recommended!) has this glistening sound - kind of like the aural equivalent of melted Easter egg chocolate. It really is an exquisite sound! Totally dreamy.

Reliability : No Opinion
No trouble thus far, but haven't gigged with it yet, so unable to submit judgement.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Not applicable

Overall Rating : 10
For my own personal taste, the sound of this amp is beyond my wildest dreams. If (God forbid) something happened to my Selmer Treble n Bass 50 MkII, I'd trawl the world 'til I found another one.


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: US $300 used
Submitted 03/30/2000 at 06:22am by Jo Neckermann
Email: Neckermj<at>senatorverlag dot burda dot com

Features : 6
They say that it is from the early Seventies. I do not think so, because it has a rectifier tube. Guess it is an late Sixtie-Beast. (In Germany, we had an weekly TV-show 66 - 70; The Beat Club. The bands ? from Kinks, Moody Blues, Taste to Black Sabbath ? played live, the backline was Selmer). The early Pink Floyd used to play it. That amp has two channels: one for guitar, one for bass (big surprise). EQ is quite effectiv for an amp that age. Enough Power for almost any situation. I use that amp with an single 12" Celestion GK 80 Cabinet.

Sound Quality : 10
I use to play old R'n'B music with that old thing with my Strat, Tele and Guild Starfire 4. Not very noisy, the Selmer give me an lush, full sound, loud enough to cut through the mix easily. I prefer the bass-channel! But you gotta get your distortion with stomp-boxes. In the warm/clean department, that old Selmer is unbeatable. But there is no reverb, what a pitty! By the way; I had to get it to the local amp guru, a well-experienced dutchman, and he said to me: I am jealous for that amp!

Reliability : 4
Nonono! That ole beast coasts me lotta money. From all my amps, this one is my Little Miss Prissy. No gig without backup. I hate it! But when I hear it, all is forgiven. Don't blame Selmer, blame the Time...

Customer Support : No Opinion
Another time, another life. Don't wanna fight with Marlene Dietrich!

Overall Rating : 8
If this amp were stolen, a part of my youth were gone. And an excellent sounding, unique vintage amp too. Big regrets. But I would still have my '69 Vox AC 30, my Silverface Super Reverb, my Fender Princeton Reverb II. Cool amps for good musicians. But none of them could replace my Selmer...


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: 80ish (Pounds Sterling) used
Submitted 03/28/2000 at 04:30am by Tim Hicks
Email: Tim_Hicks<at>Keane dot uk dot com

Features : 6
2 Channels (Treble and Bass geddit?), Volume Bass and Treble on each channel, no fancy switching as this amp was made in 1966. 3 x ECC83s, 2 x EL34s and a GZ34 rectifier. This is a very loud 50 watts of vintage British amp. They were designed as dual purpose amps for bass and guitar. The volume pots only go upto 9 so in Spinal Tap world it cannot be as loud as an amp that goes up to 11..... but it is.

Sound Quality : 10
The sound is somewhere between a VOX AC30 and a Marshall JTM45 which is a very nice place to be. The tone controls make a big difference to the available sounds and both channels are good for guitar, fat on the bass channel and brittle on the treble channel. It is very versatile for a simple amp design because of the tonal range. Superb for blues, 60's and 70's rock, good clean sound too if you turn down the guitar volume. With humbuckers it starts to overdrive on about 4. I play it through a 4x12 cab with Celestion G12M's and it really needs old style speakers like the G12Ms to sound right.
It is pretty good as a Bass amp too but underpowered by todays bass amp standards.

Reliability : 10
Built in 1966, it doent look like it's been serviced since and when I bought it, it had been left in a cupboard for years. I put some valves in and powered up and it was fine first time. It looks very solidly built inside. Theres some hum but thats because the pre amp tubes are missing their alluminium covers

Customer Support : No Opinion
Selmer stopped making amps around 1980 but any good amp tech could fix this amp

Overall Rating : 9
I have a VOX AC30 and a Marshall JTM45 reissue and this one is better than the Marshall and nearly as nice as the VOX. Even with the cost of the valves I put in and shipping it is still great value.


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: 400 (new zealand dollars) used
Submitted 11/26/1999 at 04:47pm by marty
Email: marty_squire at hotmail<dot>com

Features : 5
this amp came to me in brand new condition, which is surprising
considering the age('61-'63 apparently) it even has its cover.
it has two channels ,guitar and bass, with a simple volume/treble/bass
layout on each channel.It has low and high gain inputs which can be jumped for a thicker tone.theres no standby switch which I thought was odd at first, but this turns out to be a commen thing on british amps of this age.
it has two speaker outs (7.5 and 15) and a sticker on the back with
tips on how to aviod 'unwanted' distortion!

Sound Quality : 8
I use a gretsch with filtertrons and a danelectro with this amp.
I think the danelectro works very well with the amp,yielding a raunchy
'stringy' tone which suits my style(british beat and surf)
the amp is surprisingly low in ugly noise and breaks up pleasently at
higher settings(depending on the speakers, I use two celestions of
roughly the same age)

Reliability : 7
the first time I used the amp in a club it quit halfway through the
set,but a set of new tubes seems to make it happy and I've had no problems with it since.

Customer Support : No Opinion
selmer no longer make amps, but there is a good and helpful community
of british amp freaks ready to help you out with info on these amps

Overall Rating : 8
basically the selmer range of amps are one of the most underrated
lines of product in my opinion.they can be found for under a grand
and stand up well to marshells and ac-50s from the same era.
the collectability of the amps is rising all the time and so are prices accordingly.
great sounding ,great looking and a good history makes them a good
overall investment for both players and collecters


Product: Selmer Treble 'n Bass 50
Price Paid: US $40 used
Submitted 08/06/1999 at 02:51am by carsten tiemessen
Email: tiemessenpirch<at>t-online dot de

Features : 3
this is an early 70's british made tube-head. it comes like a fender bassman head. bass and normal channels, each with vol, treble, bass and two (hi/lo) inputs. that's it. uses 4 ECC83 pre and 2 EL34 powertubes. 50watts i think. i got this used, including a huge 1x15" cabinet (which doesn't sound special) for - 40 DOLLARS! it's pretty ugly, but in good shape. it might need some work inside, but it looks original and works (and sounds) fine as it is.

Sound Quality : 8
i play in a sort of alternative rockband from soft to LOUD. my favourite rig is my us std. strat through a marshall jtm 45 ri-head with a 2x12"marshall-cab w/greenbacks. (i use a ts 9 and a boss dd 3 for effects) the selmer really surprised me. the quality of sound is almost right there with the jtm 45. very alive and "tubey". a bit like a cross between marshall and vox. it has a bit more headroom than the jtm 45 and sounds a bit tighter overall (perhaps due to the ss rectifier). i found my favourite setting on the bass-channel, though. the normal channel has WAY too much treble. but at least it offers some variations in sound. there's some overdrive when you turn it up. and it's similar to the jtm 45/rather warm and mellow, not the raspy crunch we all know from later marshalls. i havn't tried it yet but i think humbuckers or p90's would make a big difference. yes, it has some hum when you turn it on, that's what makes me think it needs some maintainance, but it's not that bad so far.

Reliability : No Opinion
fine - it's almost 30 years, and it doesn't look like it's been touched, except for tube changes. (oh yeah, there's 2 of the original "mullard - BVA" ECC83 in it). i havn't had it long enough to tell.

Customer Support : No Opinion
does anybody remember SELMER?

Overall Rating : 8
i've been playing for more than 15 years and i own/have owned several amps, mainly fenders and marshalls. i stumbled upon this one at an incredible price, and no, i didn't NEED another amp, but you know... it's a funky old amp with some great sounds. it doesn't have the "vibe" of an old marshall, but if you see one - i recommend checking it out.

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