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Dillion DR450

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Manufacturer URL http://www.dillionguitars.net/
Features 8.8 (16 responses)
Sound 8.2 (18 responses)
Action, Fit, & Finish 8.4 (18 responses)
Reliability/Durability 8.9 (15 responses)
Customer Support 8.4 (10 responses)
Overall Rating 9.2 (15 responses)
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Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 12/06/2005 at 11:08pm by Chris Cooper
Email: thumbpick43 at yahoo<dot>com

Features : 8
2005 DL450FX, alder body, flamed maple top (natural), wraparound tailpiece, semi-hollow with f-holes. Basically, a slick little PReSque McCarty clone...for about 1/6th of the price. Yeehaw. 2 fairly hot humbuckers, 1 vol and tone, 3 way switch- simple layout. You could tap the pickups if you wanted to, I guess. 3 piece maple neck, bound body and fretboard (rosewood)...look, if you go to the Dillion website, find the DR450FX listing, it's just like the first one you see.

Sound : 9
Sounds full, bright without being brittle, nice bottom end. Good for clean and heavily overdriven stuff. It doesn't feedback as easily as I expected. Super light weight, too. I really have no desire to change the pickups or the hardware- everything works just fine as it is. Middle position is adequately funky for clean rhythm work, and I think the choice of body woods (alder w/maple top) help keep the neck pickup from sounding too woofy, as is common. Nice bite- chimey and fat. Bridge pickup has a good midrange honk, super for crazy legato stuff.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 7
Tightened the truss rod and dropped the action a bit- some rattle up high on the low strings, a bit of choke on really aggressive bends, but all this can be fixed with a little fretwork...I wish people would try and be a little more realistic about this stuff. I can't begin to tell you how many high dollar guitars I've had to dress out and tweak to make right. It's a fact of life.

I love really low action, and if you do too, you should be prepared to do some work (or have it done) to just about any guitar you purchase "off the rack." There, I said it. Unless you're having a guitar built specifically for YOU, don't expect the neck adjustment, pickup height and action to be "spot on", especially if the instrument has been shipped for any significant distance.

The woods look really nice, the binding's a little spotty in the cutaway, but I mostly just love this little guitar. It's cool.

Reliability/Durability : 9
Big fat strap buttons. Very cool. No weirdness out of the hardware or wiring. Little bit of gloppy glueness inside, bit I don't spend too much time staring into the f-holes, y'know? Built super solid, and I don't really plan to do backflips, fling it or whack it with a hammer to test the impact resistance. It's a guitar, not a Honda Accord. I think I can count on it, and though I shouldn't, I do often gig without a backup. Lazy.

Customer Support : 10
John's a hoot to deal with. If your the least bit "Southern" like me, it feels like the guy's talking about 15 different things at once, but you get used to it. The bottom line is he wants to build really good quality instruments at affordable prices. For the most part the is succeeding wonderfully. Every now and again a honker gets through- again, a fact of life. 2 year warranty on all guitars. If you call Dillion guitars, you get John on the phone. Every time. That makes me very happy, because I call the guy a lot.

Overall Rating : 9
I've been playing for about 17 years. Here's the catch guys- yes, I am in fact a person that sells these guitars, as in a "dealer". And yes, I bought one with my very own money. I get no kick-back for writing this review. I just wanted to contribute something about these instruments and hopefully dispel a few notions about what they're about and the line itself.

My rig is a mid 70's Princeton Reverb with a 1x12 extension cab, a bunch of pedals (dyna comp, Boss overdrive, tubescreamer, a couple delays, yadda yadda...) and this axe sounds great through it. I bought it to be my "rock" guitar, but it really does most everything else quite well, too. I've had it for about 3 months and it's broken in nicely, plays great and there's nothing I'm compelled to change about it.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $520
Submitted 09/21/2005 at 10:04pm by Mateo150

Features : 8
The shape of the body is small, how I expected and wanted it, but the headstock is tiny. It does look "toyish". Will probably need some work done, such as an bridge upgrade. It stays in tune. The neck is fairly nice, its not fat, but its comfortable. Its like a fender tele neck, but with less of a boat in it. The spacing between frets is very narrow though. The scale length may be 25, but it feels like a 24. I've played 24.5 guitars before, and this one feels like its less, if you have large fingers, this guitar may be a challenge to play on the higher registers (12+).

Sound : 8
The bridge sounds good, the neck is thin and needs work. If it had a pickup upgrade, I'd expect this guitar to sound incredible. A very distinctive sound to it, a midrangy snarling almost. Nice though.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 6
The setup sucked, the frets needed leveling and there were many minor problems that added up to a guitar with very high action and difficult playability. A minor finish flaw, a bubble in the coating that made it appeared like golf ball divet. The guitar actually looks nice, except for the tiny headstock that makes it look toyish.

Reliability/Durability : No Opinion
seemed solid, I returned mine for a Yamaha SA2000S

Customer Support : 2
Small time company with little support. The vendors who sell these guitars seem shady, like guys selling gear from their basements. I bought mine from Juniors Music, and I must say that the owner, Paul Boyne, was a real a-hole. When I told him I wanted to return the guitar (because I didn't want to pay $200+ for setup correction), he gave me a lot of bullshit. He even changed his webpage around to fit what he had claimed on the phone earlier that day when I had spoken with him. Luckily, there are web archieves to catch this sort of thing. He eventually gave in.

Overall Rating : 7
Its probably a fine instrument. But expect to pay $200 to get the thing set up properly and playable. Add some pickups and you'll probably have a nice playing and sounding axe. But beware, your gambling if you try one of these since they don't really have any sort of return policy. A few words of warning, the spaces between frets are narrow, the headstock is tiny, you'll NEED to get a setup done on it. Expect to pay around $800 to get it gig ready. I bought a used Yamaha SA2000S for $815, and IMO, the Yamaha is a much finer instrument than the Dillion. The 2 extra frets aren't worth it.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $489.00
Submitted 06/03/2005 at 08:32am by steve
Email: svtoonz at aol<dot>com

Features : No Opinion
I Don't know what year it was made maybe 04. 24 frets,laminated top,1 vol 1 tone 1 3 way switch. 2 hums maple top natural hollow like prs. wraparound bridge

Sound : 10
many reviews say its weak and hot. I think its just right. I use a peavey special 130 watt 1/12 and it sings. I do not like the bridge too much and am replacing it with a piezo wraparound from dguitarparts online

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
set up was ok I lowered the action a little, however now it buzzes a little at the 2 fret but I will adjust it out. Small finish flaws hard to see unless you really inspect.

Reliability/Durability : 10
I use it every weekend gig. very dependable, I always have another guitar with me (parker fly deluxe)

Customer Support : No Opinion
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Overall Rating : No Opinion
I've been playing 30+ years, My gear consists of 2 strats,2 tele's (1 72 thinline)Parker fly deluxe,carlo robelli(orange gretsch copy),Line 6 variaxand a bunch of effects currently using Boss ME 50


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 11/01/2004 at 12:13pm by Bill Taft

Features : 10
This is a follow up review of this guitar after having made some badly needed upgrades. The changes are as follows (with prices):

Grover Locking Rotomatics $42.65 @ www.stew-mac.com
Pigtail Aluminum Wraparound Bridge $79.95 @ www.stew-mac.com
TonePros Locking Posts (metric thread) $34.95 @ www.stew-mac.com
Seymour Duncan SH-55 Seth Lover (neck & bridge) $200 @ local shop
Fret dress, setup, intonation, install of parts, etc. (Your cost will depend on your relationship with your tech but remember, you get what you pay for!)

Sound : 10
Holy shit. The difference is incredible - well beyond what I hoped for. The Seth Lovers are soooo smooth and the tuners and bridge add to the stablility and sustain so much more than I expected. I cannot begin to tell you what a difference these changes have made. This guitar is now a professional quality instrument. I had my first show with it last night and everyone was blown away with the quality of my tone. Simply incredible. Watch your ass PRS!

Action, Fit, & Finish : 10
The fret dress is the key. Those crazy Koreans do a pretty good job with their fret machines but you just can't beat hand levelled frets. Spend the money, you won't regret it.

I chose the Locking Rotomatics, initially, because I didn't have to make any new holes in the headstock. However, after having used them in a live situation, I absolutely love them. They are VERY smooth and stable and no bulky thumb screw on the back side of the gear housing. I was skeptical at first but now I'm a born again believer!

I'm very impressed with the aluminum bridge. Great sustain, great stability and, imagine this, adjustable! Yes, you too can actually intonate your Dillion DR450 - the power of technology!

Reliability/Durability : 10
I installed first class parts on this guitar and it shows! It doesn't feel (or sound) like a toy anymore.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Yeah, right...get yourself a good tech. May I recommend Bob Rhoads? Check him out at www.birddogbobby.com - he's the best.

Overall Rating : 10
These changes are a must for anyone looking to use this guitar as a working axe. Of course your taste in p'ups may vary but I highly recommend the SH-55. They are very smooth and can go from jazz to rock to low-down dirty blues. I am so impressed by this guitar that my poor Strat may not see the light of day for a while. I have almost $1,000 invested in this project, but seriously, it is worth every penny. For less than a quarter of what you would pay for the PRS, you can have a very fine guitar that sounds incredible and looks incredible. You simply cannot beat that value.

I cannot stress enough the importance of a good tech in a project like this. Get to know him, talk about what you like so that he can make it happen. Remember, he's a gear head too and probably loves to talk about what he does as much as you do. I spend at least an hour at my tech's shop every time I visit and he has become a real friend and that is, in my opinion, a major factor in what I consider to be a successful project. The better he knows you, the better the work he can do for you.

Good luck with your project and have fun!


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $300
Submitted 08/29/2004 at 12:52am by Sven
Email: slavine at mac<dot>com

Features : 8
veneered maple top glued to routered 3 piece mahogany back. Mine has a beautiful amber figured Japanese ash veneered top. The body is fully hollow, except for a block under the bridge which goes the full depth of the guitar. The top is about 1/4" thick along the sides, where the f-holes are, and about 5/8" thick in the center where the pickups are. Mahogany neck w/24 fret rosewood fingerboard. 24.75" scale, 1 11/16" nut. 1 piece wraparound bridge. Gotoh style tuners. Funky looking humbucking pickups.

I'd like to clear up a few conflicts I've seen in previous reviews:

This is technically a fully hollow guitar, the portion of the maple top where the pickups reside is not attached to the back, and although relatively thick, is free to vibrate, unlike an ES335 style semi-hollow guitar, which has a solid block of wood down the center with hollow chambers on the sides. There is a full depth block below the bridge.

The top is not a figured wood top, but rather solid maple with a thin veneer glued to the top. Common practice on low to mid price guitars. The advantage is that you can have a stunning exotic wood top at a low price, often with more dramatic figuring than a solid one, and you're not depleting the world's supply of exotic wood. It is absolutely gorgeous, easily as nice as guitars costing thousands more.

Often described as being a copy of the PRS hollow body: It is similar in appearance, but a PRS, it is not. The Top and back of the PRS are miraculously carved to a very thin dimension throughout. Both top and back are arched. The Dillion has a flat back, and the top is quite a bit thicker in the center. The PRS is much more like a true hollowbody (although it does have a solid block under the bridge), it is extremely light, acoustically lively, and feels as if it will crumble in your hands. While the Dillion does have acoustic properties, it is heavier, and more like a solid, or ES335 in terms of it's resonance.

Dillion would probably have you believe otherwise, but this is one of a slew of very well made, inexpensive guitars coming out of one of the huge Korean plants. The same one that makes many Ibanez, Epiphone and most other guitars of Koran origin. It's no coincidence that this guitar bears similarities to other brands. This is not a bad thing. Companies like Dillion are able to custom configure their product, so there are differences between the various guitars in fit & finish and Q.C.

Sound : 4
I use this guitar for jazz and fusion. Acoustically, it is similar to an ES335, woody, with some airiness. When it comes to the pickups, this is where it all falls apart for me. Although they are not bad by any means for a guitar of this price. The bridge pickup sound is fairly bright, but not natural sounding - kind of constricted. There is something fatiguing and cold about the sound - sort of like an ice pick in the forehead. The neck PU does OK for clean stuff, and actually sounds decent for jazz, despite the 24 fret neck and it's effect on PU placement. It's not a big surprise that the PUs on a $300 guitar would be challenged. For many players, they will probably be fine, but if you've ever experienced the bliss of high-end aftermarket pickup you'd be selling yourself short - the potential is great here.

Sustain seemed to be pretty short as well.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 7
I have to play devils advocate here. While very well made for the price, there are many reviews here that will lead you to believe that this is equal to a $3000 guitar in every way - this may either be a reflection on the embarrassing Q.C. issues that American companies are facing, or an indication that the reviewer has not actually played a fine guitar for any period of time.

The finish and construction is the best thing this guitar has going for it. It is a beautifully finished guitar that is technically well constructed. There are a few minor flaws: a little sloppy finish on the binding, some visible wood filler. Nice bang for the buck, and it really is nicer than many recent American made guitars. But is not as well constructed or perfectly finished as some of the Japanese made guitars.

The parts are all a little cheesy. The bridge is a crude casting, that is not intonable, and was badly tilting on the studs (can you say "bad coupling"). Tuners seem well built, but slip a little, causing the guitar to go out of tune. The electronics seem sound, although the switch feel cheap.

The action was not really to my liking, but I am used to guitars with really low action. But the neck and fretboard are well constructed. A few of the frets were high and had to be glued. A good foundation, but there is huge potential here.

The neck profile is perfect for me: wide fretboard with a moderately shallow depth, similar to an Ibanez Artist.

Reliability/Durability : 9
So far so good. It took a tumble off the stand, and was fine. The finish is thick and durable., and the construction solid.

Customer Support : 5
A little slow to respond to my emails.

Overall Rating : 9
Here's where things get interesting. I bought this guitar for it's potential more than anything. It had the look and basic construction I wanted, although there was room for improvement in the hardware and setup department. The first thing I did was to order a TonePros locking bridge with adjustable intonation ($120) than I took the guitar over to Gary Brawer Stringed Instruments in San Francisco to have them run the Plek machine (www.plek.com) install the bridge and do a full set up ($270). When I got it back, it was a totally different guitar. The action is insanely low and buzz-free, the sustain and tone have improved drastically, and it just feels solid. I'm not sure whether to attribute this to the TonePros tank of a bridge, or the Plek set-up - maybe both. I have a set of Bartolini PUs on order - this should fix the tone problem. This little experiment proves to me that a good set-up is perhaps the most important (and overlooked) factor in the equation, and it can in fact make a marginal guitar world class. This guitar has it's own personality, and is stands up very well to my other guitars, all Japanese Ibanez, not as good, but close.

So I'd say you really can't go wrong, either in bang for the buck, or improvement potential. Go get one!


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $465 w/ HSC
Submitted 07/28/2004 at 01:13pm by Bill Taft
Email: wtaft at totcon<dot>com

Features : 7
Mine is the new DR450XF. Korean made, 24 fret, bound body and F-holes. VERY attractive laminate top, not perfect but very nice. Basically, the guitar is a replica of a PRS Hollowbody I with exception to the neck inlay and the 24 frets. All the hardware is Korean so, it looks good but the quality isn't there. Set neck, medium jumbo frets, BONE NUT! One volume, one tone, 3-way switch.

You can get the company line here: http://www.dillionguitars.com/guitar/electric/DR/DR450/index.html

I'm not sure how to criticize the features as it's a replica of another guitar. If you like the features on the real thing, you'll like the features on the Dillion. If you're looking for more features (i.e. PRS Hollowbody II) this may not be your cheap way out.

Sound : 3
The stock pickups suck. But what do you want from a Korean made guitar? We know cheap pickups sound like mud through a strainer but the guitar is inexpensive and we can always buy better pickups for less money than a better guitar. If you're looking for a tone machine reconcile yourself to the fact that you're going to gut the guitar and install quality parts.

The sound chambers on the guitar are so small, I'm not sure as to the extent that they help shape the tone of the guitar. With the stock pickups as set from the factory the neck is VERY bassy and muddy and significantly louder than the bridge p'up. The bridge is bright but lacks real detail. Both issues are exasperated by the potting wax. Sure it stops feedback but at the expense of tone. I've played with the pickup heights and the adjustable poles and I've got it sounding about as good as it's going to get but it's still out of balance volume wise. The reviewer who said the p'ups throw the amp into compression early is right on the money. I play through a blackface Super Reverb and a Music Man 65 Reverb and it squashes both of them way too soon. In fact I would say that these pickups wide open are unusable in a live setting. For the home picker, they may be fine but for a working musician they'll be the first things to go.

Incidentally, I had the opportunity to play a PRS Santana SE and the damn guitars look, play and sound identical. I think it's interesting that PRS gets as much as they do for their Korean guitars when you can do just as well for a lot less with a Dillion.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 7
The action is set very low and fast. It came with very light strings on it and I'm holding off switching to heavier strings until I get the guitar to my tech so he can adjust the neck properly. I like my strings heavy and a little higher than most people but that's where the tone is.

The neck joint looks a little questionable to me. I'm not sure how it'll handle regular gigging but time will tell. I'm having problems pushing the strings out of tune while playing and I'm not sure if it's the neck flexing or the light strings or me man-handling the guitar or a combination of all of the above. I'll let my tech have a look at it, maybe heavier strings will help. This guitar sustains like a motherfucker, which was a nice surprise.

There are some flaws in the binding and the book matching is off a tad but really, who cares? Nobody is studying it while I'm on stage and if you're concerned with minute details on a guitar in this price range you're an idiot.

Reliability/Durability : 5
As it comes out of the box, the guitar is no where near ready for stage duty. The hardware is cheap Korean stuff so plan on investing in good tuners, good pickups, etc. The dinner plate strap buttons do kick ass however and the bone nut is a nice feature.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Haven't dealt with them yet and I shouldn't have any reason to. Unless the neck takes a dive...and even then I do have a great tech who probably does better work than I'll get through the manufacturer.

I've email John and he replied quickly and courteously.

Overall Rating : 7
I've been playing for 15 years and my main player is a Fender MIJ Strat that I have gutted and tricked out a la Tone Quest (Fender Custom 69 p'ups, Bill Callaham tone block and bridge assembly, Fender USA pots, jumbo frets, Sperzel locking tuners). My amps include a blackface Fender Super Reverb and a Music Man 65 Reverb head. I also have an Amer Fender Strat Plus, an Amer Fender Bullet H-2 and various other acoustic and electric guitars.

I bought this guitar because I wanted a strat sized semi-hollow guitar to trick out. If you're looking for a good platform for a project guitar, this is a great place to start. It's no PRS, not by a Korean mile, but it's a nice playing guitar and a great value for the money.

Swap out the pickups, put on some descent locking tuners and string it up with 11's and you've got yourself a great stage guitar that looks like it cost a lot more than it did. I would budget $800 for a project of this type and you'll get a fantastic value for the money.

This rating is before changes and modifications. I will do a separate review after the project is complete.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $227.00
Submitted 07/25/2003 at 11:37am by mike
Email: trooth123<at>netscape dot net

Features : 10
f holes 2 humbuckers dillion pickups hot but livable I think. has the bridge and stop tailpiece combinded. the one is a cherry sunburst my least favorite color until I got from ups. also the tuners are the small scale tuners also found on the historic reissue gretsches being produced now. liked them on my gretsch stremliner and like them on the dillion.

Sound : 10
this guita sounds rich/full and bright. no mud but a bit on the hot side. could sound deeeper with other pickups. so far I have only used it through a fender. I wish it had two volume and two tone knobs but it wasn't designed that way. sounds great for what it is.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 10
this thing might have been slightly used when it came from a dealer in cal. I have no way of knowing setup seems flawless but the strings were rotted and had to be changed before being played. everything is on the up and up with this guitar and for the price I paid who am I to complain.

Reliability/Durability : 10
tuners are great and finish is nice buttons solid. as good as a fender and it feels like a strat when its straped on except its lighter then most strats. loved theat about it the moment I put it on. just feels like an old friend hanging there.

Customer Support : No Opinion
can't say this is my second dillion have not had problems yet have a fab dillion goldtop w/p90's now for sale as new.

Overall Rating : 10
been playing about 24 years and I just love the bargain I got on this Ebay buy. I have a Prs daler near me and just can't see why they cost so much as this guitar is just as nice at 1/20 of the cost of a prs macarty.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $535
Submitted 11/27/2002 at 05:08am by Brian Witowski
Email: brianw<at>torchlake dot com

Features : No Opinion
This is an update to a previous review. I recently had the guitar worked on. I had a Seymour Duncan 59 put in the neck position and a Pearly Gates put in the bridge position. In addition, I had the frets properly leveled and a push-pull pot put in the tone position for dual-single-coil switching. I also removed the non-adjustable bridge/tailpiece and replaced it with one similar to the adjustable one on the McCarty.

See previous review.

Sound : 10
Before I changed the pickups, the sound was definitely acceptable. Quite midrangy but not overbearing. For an 'economy' pickup, they are far better than the "Duncan-Design" pickup I have seen on other guitars.

With the new Duncans, quit simply, it ROCKS! I will also submit a review for these pickups but it's worth mentioning that these pickups sound good in this guitar. The 59 is very smooth and round. It doesn't 'muddy up' when used by itself like many pickups do in the neck position.
The PG-1 in the bridge pickup is very similar to the 59, with brighter highs.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 8
See my previous review for the original setup.
After having my guitar tech properly level the frets and set the action, it's very respectable. I am using a hybrid .009 set of strings. My rating is after the setup.

Before having the frets leveled they were polished well, but not level. There were definitely uneven frets causing some buzzing and limiting how low the action could be set.

Reliability/Durability : No Opinion
See previous review.

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : No Opinion
See previous review


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $400
Submitted 08/03/2002 at 08:25pm by Michael

Features : 9
New Dillion DR450 hollowbody made in Korea. 24 Frets carved, flamed maple top with F holes. One tone, one volume, three way switch. Generic pickups with chrome covers and cream colored ring. The web site says that all of the wood is maple (?). This is a copy of a PRS hollowbody except with 24 frets. Hard tail that looks like the one PRS uses on the Santana SE. The tuners are generic and work surprisingly well.. this guitar stays in tune far better than my other guitars. The neck is what I guess PRS would call a wide-thin. Absolutely nothing came with this guitar.

Sound : 10
I like to play bluesy / psuedo classic / hard rock of my own creation and this thing sounds really good. I was really surprised at how good it sounded without any changes. Its hard to explain the exact sound, imagine a Les Paul, but fuller and a little brighter.

The guitar gets a good range of sounds from the different pickups with different amounts of tone and gain.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 8
The setup was great in the shop, but the guitar has started to buzz in the last couple of weeks, probably the humidity. The action is low and the pickups are kind of low as well. The strings were worthless but the shop gave me a new set. I don't really like the finish that much, its a cherry burst on a flamed top. I like sunburst guitars, just not cherry burst.. but it is starting to grow on me. There are a couple of spots where the finish has bled over onto the binding, and a lot of oversray into the body through the f-holes. To be honest, these little nit-picky things bugged me when I got it, but I really don't notice anymore. This guitar has definately become my favorite.

Reliability/Durability : 10
Live playing.. I have no idea. I have never played before an audience. It has stood up to a few knocks on the headstock from my three year old son. The finish seems like it will last, as does the hardware. The strap buttons are good, but I need strap locks. I already had the guitar slip off of a strap (I caught it). Seems dependable but if I were to ever gig you bet I would have a backup.. I'm anal that way.

Customer Support : 10
I received email from John Dillion a few months ago when I inquired about a local dealer. It was an honest to god personal response. He seems like a good guy and I'm guessing I would have no trouble here. So I will give him a 10. I don't know if I even have a warranty.

Overall Rating : 10
I have been playing for about a year. I play with an Epiphone Les Paul, a Fender Mexi-strat, and a Fender Blues Jr.. or my v-amp2 if everyone is sleeping. I have a variety of pedals that I use from time to time, but I really like the sound of the DR450 plugged straight into my Blues Jr with the volume at around 8 with the master at something bearable.

I can't get over how great this guitar sounds. It has been the only guitar I've played (aside from my acoustic) since I got it. I totally reccomend this guitar to anyone that wants the semi-hollow sound on a budget.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: 550 (CAN )
Submitted 08/02/2002 at 10:53pm by air

Features : 9
I think this was made in 2002. Made in Korea. It's a solid top amber. Volume, tone, 3 way switch, two humbuckers. It's all I need on a guitar. Switch is a little stiff, could be 'cause the guitar is still new (6 weeks old on August 3, 2002)

Sound : 9
I play heavyish rock/pop, jam it out on occasion calling for extended solos. Set up is (this week): Sound Studio Compressor>Korg Classic Overdrive>Boss Octave>Ibanez Auto Wah>Boss Bass Chorus> Digitech RP6 stereo out to Marshall JCM900 4502 & Roland Stage 100. The whole package is a bit noisy when it's all kicked in. Clean, it's a beautiful, bassy tone. Switching pickups goes from a deep humbucker full tone to slightly twangy Fender sound. Pretty powerful gain and volume boost on lower position.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
Bought it through private dealer who had it set up already. Perfect for me, luckily. No flaws and intonatable bridge.

Reliability/Durability : 9
I kick holes through wall with this guitar a minimum of 3 hours a week. Haven't played live with it yet. Seems pretty durable. I'm also a freak about taking care of it. Finish is nice and thick, though I've been soaking this guitar in my sweat all summer.
I would never gig without a backup (especially since the reversed intonatable bridge doesn't really allow a quick string change) but I'd trust it under normal circumstances.

Customer Support : No Opinion
I originally emailed John Dillion for dealer info and he promptly replied. If I have any problems, I'll go through my private dealer.

Overall Rating : 9
I've been playing for about 17 years. I have a couple basses that I focused on playing for the past 6 years or so. I've been back to the guitar for the past 3 or 4. If this guitar was teefed, I'd turn around and get another right away. For the money, I could never find a better guitar. I love the tone and sustain. It stays in tune for weeks at a time. I played a couple other Dillions and LP's, I had been playing a borrowed Strat, I didn't even play it before I bought it. Based on what I had read and my dealer's high rec, I grabbed it. If you can find one and you just can't afford the real thing (PRS), take it. You won't be disappointed.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $410 steal!!
Submitted 07/19/2002 at 10:05am by nic
Email: cicdoak at hotmail<dot>com

Features : 9
This is a Korean made Dillion dr-450. from the same manufacture as most other brands made in Korea. i have found Korean guitar to the the best after Japanese and American made. It has a hollow body (with block under bridge), with a thick flamed maple top in amber color. 24 frets jumbo size. good hardware. pickups are a bit weaker than others- but they are good for this type of guitar and keep the feedback down. there is not much else to ask for. it is very well worth the money paid. case was included,

Sound : 8
I play improvisional rock, jazz funk fusion. it works well for anything i am doing. i am under the impression that you should be able to play an entire show without changing guitars or having to tune- and this one suites me. i play this (or my Cort MGM) through a leslie simulator > rt. 66 american overdrive > crybaby wah into a fender hot rod deville 2x12. this set up just smokes. i have wonderful gobs of trey-like sustain/feedback that is easily controlled, and a rich velvety sound. mid heavy like i like it this is definately good for blues. very good sound- but not as wide a spectrum of sound as my humbucker equiped Cort MGM- now that is a fine guitar; but it is still very very good. i only disliked the gold speed knobs and may take the chrome covers off of the pickups

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
This guitar was set up flawless. all intonation is correct it is very easy to bend notes on this guitar. and there is something about a 24 fret neck that makes playing it even easier. everything was set up and made correctly. the top was aboout a 1/16th of an inch off of being bookmatched correctly- but that is nothing. very good quality. love the body binding. very quiet also. i forget if my amp is on standby sometimes even with the volume all the way up. The heel of this guitar is incredible- it only sticks out a 1/2" at the very most. not like a PRS that sticks out 4". they are cutting two many corners now at PRS. i would never buy a PRS for more than $600 dollares. they are selling production guitars for more than the price of a custom made guitar. this is handmade- and PRS are machine made. i have played them and don't think they are worth half of what the sell for. unless you are the master- SANTANA, boycott PRS!!!!

Reliability/Durability : 9
It is very reliable- but i actually will break a high e strinbg everynow and then. finish is very good, hardware is good quaily chrome. best size strap buttons they make- it won't fall off. i have gigged several times without a backup, but usually don't

Customer Support : No Opinion
Never dealt with the company- but they have a limited lifetime warranty

Overall Rating : 10
I've benn palying heavily for almost 5 years. i also own the formentioned CORT MGM (check it out! just take off the gold hardware!), and a maple neck mexican sunburst stratocaster with Kent Armstrong humbuckers. i have a MESA / BOOGIE studio .22 that has seen better days, and a ts-9 tubescreamer. if it were stolen i would buy it again. i love most everything about this guitar. i have gone back to useing my MGM, but i am very happy i bought this guitar. it is lighter and has a much better sound unplugged- but the MGM must have better pickups. this guitar is very worth checking out. make sure you play it through YOUR rig before buying it though. some amps sound better with certain guitars.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: canadian used
Submitted 06/25/2002 at 09:38am by Don M
Email: chss at iworks<dot>net

Features : 9
PRS Semi hollow copy. Two Humbuckers, set neck. One volume, one tone control. Decent quality materials, good tuners and frets.

Sound : 8
I agree with the Tim Lawson review totally. The pickups are too hot for me. They drive my amp (Marshall JTM 30)into compression too easily. So this limits the expression of the instrument. Instead of playing harder to force the amp into a compressed tone, this guitar puts the amp there with the softest attack. I've changed the neck pickup to an inexpensive WD vintage alnico. This doesn't offer any improvement in detail or clarity, but it does make the guitar more dynamic, as its much less hot. There's not a lot of tone change with the pickup change, the guitar primarily becomes more manageable.

I now like this guitar a lot. The sound has qualities of a 335 or Ibanez artist ( solid or semi hollow). This instrument sustains very nicely.

Stock I'd rate it a 7 - with different pickups, maybe a 9.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 8
I'm not blown away with the workmanship or finish of the instrument. It is not as high of a standard as my Parker Nitefly. But I am in no way dissapointed, I can detect no flaws with this. It seems to have a slightly higher degree of workmanship than the Gibsons I've played, but a noticeably lower grade of materials.

None of that matters to me, I was looking for a guitar that would serve, and am very pleased so far with this.

Another subject worth noting is the feel of an instrument. This neck has a flat, somewhat narrow, and not too thick neck. The flattness I really like, but not the narrowness, although after several months I have adjusted to it. The PRS body style is great. I had a Washburn HB35 (335 style) guitar before and it was a beautiful guitar but was so cumbersome to play seated or standing, this guitar has no such drawback.

Reliability/Durability : 8
No problems, does not seem chincy in any way

Customer Support : 10
I emailed Dillion while looking for a dealer, and John Dillion himself replied. I really respect entrepeneurs that are hands on like that.

I ended up purchasing from Gordies Music in BC, Canada. He did a great job taking the time to describe the instrument without rushing ( I bought it sight unseen), thanks Gordie.

Overall Rating : 9
I am an accomplished rock guitarist who has been getting into jazz more and more the last couple of years. I wanted an instrument that could be used in jazz, yet was more multi dimensional, like a 335. There is a hard to describe quality or 'vibe' that this instrument has. It's almost as though it were a vintage guitar. The nuts and bolts of this guitar don't warrant as high a rating as my Nitefly, but I find myself playing this more.

I am grateful that somebody was able to put this on the market at a price that I could afford.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $535
Submitted 05/30/2002 at 05:27am by Brian Witowski
Email: brianw at torchlake<dot>com

Features : 9
PRS Copy of McCarty hollow body. Double-cutaway, 1-vol, 1-tone, 3-postition toggle. Two chrome humbuckers. Bridge/tailpiece all-in-1. This one is the cherry sunburst model.

Sound : 8
The pickups are 'average'. Somewhat lower output in my opinion (I use a Line-6 Ax2 and have to adjust the input level for every guitar. That is my frame of reference for output). These are somewhat lower output than Carvin M-22's.
The tone is quite good. I'm sure improvements could be made, but for out-of-the-box OEM pickups, they are very usable. I would say they have a predomonate midrange tone.

Extremely quiet guitar. For a semi-hollow body I expected some feedback problems, but have had none.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
I don't believe the shops up in my neck of the woods put any time into setting up a guitar before putting it on the shelf. I felt the action was too high when I brought it home. So I lowered it. At that point the low E started buzzing against the 1st fret when played open. So I took it back, they did a quick neck adjustment and the buzz went away. They appeared to but more bow in the neck. I have the action about as low as the bridge will go and in my opinion, it's still a little high. I feel this guitar should play a little easier that it does. Perhaps getting it set up professionally would do the trick.

The Finish is beautiful. There was one 'smudge' in the finish on one of the horns. And it wouldn't clean off. So I got out my finishing polishes and went to work. Cleaned it up in about 5 minutes.
This thing has a nice, high-gloss finish that makes you want to stare at it instead of play it! It couldn't be much better.

One of the first things I noticed was how well it tuned up. I have always had problems with my open low E sounding out of tune, even with proper intonation and set up on high-end guitars. This thing sounds good across the scale. No notes that 'just don't sound right'.

Reliability/Durability : 8
I don't gig out so it hasn't seen the road. The strap buttons are nice and big and I see no reason it wouldn't hold up with extensive use.

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : No Opinion
I have owned a Gibson LP Artisan, SG Standard, Epi-335, Hamer Sunburst, Washburn Falcon, Washburn BT-8 and a Hondo Formula-I. I have been playing off and on since about 1977.
I currently still own, and play the Hondo as well as this new Dillion.
I think I like the looks and sound the most. I'm not into radical body styles. I like the elegant, unassuming styles. And this one fits that bill perfectly.

I run it through my Ax2 and am able to get just about any sound out of it, except for the 'strat twang'. I will likely get a push-pull pot installed as a coil tap.

I think I like the action/playability the least. Not that it's terrible. But I think it should be a little better.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $515.00
Submitted 04/27/2002 at 05:19pm by Robert Johnson

Features : 8
2002 Korean made semi-hallow electric. This guitar has 24 medium jumbo frets, with a 25 inch scale. It's a sunburst tobacoo finsih on what is most likely a laminated maple top. Like a PRS it uses 1 vol., 1 tone and a three way switch for comntrol of the 2 passive humbuckers.the body is maple with a 8" wide center block. The neck is also maple with a rosewood finger board it's flat and is similar to a 62' Les Paul in thickness. The PRS body style has a medium amount of flame. The bridge is similat to the stop tail that is used on the PRS. Chrome tuners (no name) with small buttons.

Sound : 7
I ahve no idea what a PRS sounds like. Form what I've been told they are midrangy. This guitar at volume is very much that way. with a tube screamer it sound very crunchy like the newer rock bands. Clean it can do some jazz but starts to distort at max vol. It wiil do blues but the sound is very aggressive. The guitar is surprisingly quiet. I tested the DR-450 through a Vox AC 30, a Budda Twinmaster and a FUCH Overdrive Supreme (Dumble clone). I don't have any guitars that are especially good for the current verson of aggressive rock. So if I were inclined I could keep this guitar in it's current configuration. This is a great sounding guitar for that market, but my rating is based on my personal taste.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 8
The set up is a middle of the road setting. It is ready to play right out of the box. There is a little bit of buzz on the big E but i will sort that out after I change the pickups and strings. The flame on the top would be a perfect match if the builder would have moved either of the halves up or down 1/2". The horn on the top shows some chatter marks under the clear where they were making an arch in the curve. I wouldn't have noticed if I wasn't checking very closely. Other than that everything else seems to be very well constructed. The neck joint looks solid and the binding is smooth and well fitted. My $2500 gibson had similar flaws.

Reliability/Durability : 8
I was cautious about reviewing this guitar because I haven't owned it very long. But after giving it a through workout I'm fairly confident in what I have to say about this product. I've owen quite a few guitars and have studied what makes good tone. The DR-450 looks like it will stand up to many years of use. Realize that I take care of my equipment and don't abuse it in anyway. The construction is as good as it gets under $1000.00. As far as backup goes one guitar is never enough The finsih is very nice I have no reason to think it will not last. The strap buttons are huge they will be changed to strap locks. The stop tail bridge looks like the PRS I don't like it if I have any problem with it I will change it to a higher quality piece.

Customer Support : 10
John Dillon stands behind his products. I've e-mailed him several times and he has always responded within 24 hours. I don't see any potential problems but form other rteviews it looks like he sticks to the 2 year warrenty replacing items as needed.

Overall Rating : 10
I have owned a Gibson BB King, a 335 dot, a Heritage 555, a Eric Clapton strat, Les paul Black Beauty, G&L-500, Lonestar strat. Amps Line 6, Johnson Millenium, Vibro-King, Hotrod Deville, Champ, and Silvertone 1482. My current gear Heritage H-150 Les Paul, Robben Ford Custom, American Tele, 52 tele w/Fralins, Gibson SG and a Dobro resonator. Ampe FUCH ODS, Marshall 50wt. plexi, 57 fender Deluxe, 66 Super Reverb, Vox AC 30 and a 67 Deluxe Reverb. The point here is that I have some idea of good tone. I've contacted Lew Collins (Lewguitar@aol.com)and purchased his recommendation of pickups for this guitar. Lew and his brother Bruce (Missionamps@aol.com) know what good tone is. Bruce is always to find more tone in my amps even after I have tweeked them to perfection. When I bought the DR-450 I had every intention of changing the pickups nad the nutso I will follow up this review after those mods are complete. What I can say about the stock configuration is it's a great value. I can easily live with the guitar in its stock configuration and would buy a second guitar just ot have that more modern sound. I would recommend this guitar to anyone from beginner to pro. For those of you who rate your skill by who can pay the most for their gear all I can say is get over it!


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $515.00
Submitted 03/15/2002 at 09:55pm by Tim Lawson
Email: tim at timsguitar<dot>com

Features : 9
Professional guitar, light weight, and well finished, one of the best imports in the business! The guitar uses pretty good quality vol and tone pots, the very basic 3 way box switch that may fail in a few years but is the easiest to install of all types. The bridge/ tailpiece combination adjusts just like many Gibson ones and will intonate well and is most in tune with a wound 3rd g string. A upgrade tailpiece is available for this guitar and b and g string positions can be tuned in for perfect intonation.
* Purpose of this post is to correct a selling price and give comments from a repairmans point of view.

Sound : 5
Good , hotter import pickups in this model, can be cooled down with USA replacement pickups that install very easily. The stock pickups have a slight crack and break up when strings are played hard that is very normal for hotter output models. The guitar is very quiet and grounded well. This semi hollow body guitar may have some feedback issues with this pickup cranked with full distortion due to potting of the stock pickups. We do find these much higher quality than the epiphone type pickups, however.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 7
Guitar is put together very well, good fit on neck to body angle , finish is buffed very well, frets are well seated and level. The nut has been slightly adjusted and I highly recommend replacing with a bone nut for the professional player. Plays well out of the box, but needs basic set up by a professional to get the most out of the guitar, just like any manufacturers products do.

Reliability/Durability : 9
I have been familiar with this brand for 2 years and have had NO instruments returned for parts failure, finish flaws, or playability.

I AM WRITING THIS REVIEW BECAUSE THERE IS A MISTAKE ON THE SELLING PRICE OF THE DR 450 PURCHASED BY MR. GLENN MOREAU. THE SELLING PRICE FOR THE GUITAR WAS $515 USD. THE PRICE QUOTED WAS FOR PROFESSIONAL SETUP LABOR, CUSTOM BATTERY DOOR COMPARTMENT ROUTING INSTALL, AND A SET OF EMG 81/85 USA PICKUPS. Mr. Moreau knows his music and has a fantastic guitar collection. He has told us on many occassions that he plays this model almost all the time!
You could definitely use this guitar as a main axe with no backup on any gig!

Customer Support : 8
I have had to order some very minor and rare parts for some customers and John Dillion always handled them quickly and professionally. He is quick to defend his guitar colors on the web but some are definitely off and mentioned by customers in other posts! All colors are beautiful but lighting and website resolution is off some. Gold tops, Cherry Sunbursts are definitely right on! The tobacco sunbursts look very late 1970's to early 90's Gibson style. The violin color is a very rich translucent brown reminicent of your grandpa's old fiddle! Not as red as the web shows. His website has moved to http://www.dillionguitars.net

Overall Rating : 8
I have been playing 31 years and professionally involved with guitar service , teaching, and sales for 23 years. Good guitar and quality rivals most any guitar to 1k or more.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $520
Submitted 03/11/2002 at 05:24pm by C. Maupin
Email: Wil3601507<at>aol dot com

Features : 9
Basically a PRS copy of the hollowbody McCarty model. The fretboard is fairly flat, which I like. The top is a quilted maple, and ordered my guitar with the antique violin finish. The frets are low frets. I would have prefered the taller frets, but that is my preference. The guitar plays very nice. It is very similar to the ES 335.

Sound : 10
The sound is the best thing about this guitar!!! Wow!

My father had the guitar set up by Tim Lawson a Tim's Guitar Workshop. We wanted a very clean pure sound, so we installed Classic 57's (Gibson) on Tim's recommendation.

I was amazed at the results of how the guitar sounded! It is very sweet and pure. The sound is my favorite thing about this guitar, but it was customized by Tim, so you can't chalk that up to Dillion's pickups. I have an ES-335 and the pure sound of this guitar blows it away.

I wouldn't know how to rate the pickups that were the stock pickups, they may be a little hotter. However, the Classic 57's are great. You can get just about any tone out of these pickups, and they are so pure and sweet. Cut the tone back and it almost sounds like a plugged in acoustic, very mellow. Switch to the bridge and jack up the tone and you get a pure blues sound that really cuts through. Great job! This guitar sings.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
Tim set the guitar up. It is the best setup I have every had. He sets up the guitar very low. I don't know how to adjust intonation on PRS style bridges, but the intonation was right on.

The guitar's finish is the antigue violin. Don't be fooled by the Dillion website. The antique violin is darker and not reddish like the website picture. The only downside that I can tell of is the grain does not have much contrast, and that may lead you to not see the grain of the wood in low light conditions (the guitar would almost look black). But it is a beautiful guitar. At the price we paid, a steal.

Reliability/Durability : No Opinion
This guitar appears very well built. The finish coat appears tough. I have not had the guitar long enough to know for certain if the finish is tough enough to not recieve numerous "soft scratches". So far so good. The neck to body joint is a glue on joint.

Customer Support : 9
I haven't dealt with the company. There was a warranty card that came with the guitar. It is for two years and includes a toll free number if you have any problems.

I did contact John Dillion early in my search process. He was very helpful in finding me a dealer(although I ended up finding my own). The guitars are not easy to get right now, you may have to wait. I felt fortunate to find one.

Overall Rating : 10
I have been playing for 10 years. I own a Gibson ES-335, and a Ovation Balladeer, Ibanez 540SLTD, which I am trying to sell.

If the guitar would stolen, I would definitely try to get one again. This guitar blows my Gibson away(Gibson is overrated anyway). The only thing I would change is that I would probably put in higher frets.

I chose the guitar because I like the hollowbody sound, but I wanted a lightweight guitar. This guitar is VERY lightweight, and with the Classic 57's, it can sing, dance, crawl, and drool sweet melodies. The ES-335 is staying in the case, I prefer this guitar.


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $500.00
Submitted 10/18/2001 at 04:26pm by Kevin
Email: klv8lm<at>csrlink dot net

Features : 8
Made in 1999 in Korea.. 24 frets.. semi hollw with mahogony body and flamed maple top, 2 humbuckers 1 volume 1 tone 3 way toggle switch,body style is a copy of a PRS McCarty.

Sound : 9
I play in a Southern rock band this guitar sounds great with my Peavey Transformer amp.. The pickups are rather weak. I replaced them with a set of Dimarzio Steve Morse models and it ROCKS!!!

Action, Fit, & Finish : 10
Finish is beautiful (antique violin).. Plays great..

Reliability/Durability : 10
I play this guitar as my main axe... It holds up very well.

Customer Support : 10

Overall Rating : 10
I have been a professional musician for over 20 years, and for my money Dillions are the best guitar out there...I own several..


Product: Dillion DR450
Price Paid: US $350.00
Submitted 07/21/2001 at 09:52pm by Glenn L. Moreau, CPCU
Email: glmoreau<at>eatel dot net

Features : 10
This guitar is Dillion's newest model, the DR450. Semi-hollow body McCarty model. Sunburst finish. PRS copy made in Korea. Dillion's newest model, see his web site www. dillionguitars.com I bought this guitar on the advise of my guitar tech, Tim Lawson who owns and operates Tim's Guitar Shop in Baton Rouge, LA. I have been playing music professionall for over 35 years and Tim has played guitar in one of my bands. This guy knows his business!!!! Check out his web site. He is an authorised repairman for Martin, Fender, Gibson, etc. On of the best guitar techs there is!!! He highly recommends the Dilion guitars and sells them at his shop, when he can get them, highly sought after guitars.
I own 9 guitars, all professional models. See list below:
Martin HD26 acoustic
Martin DM-12 12-string acoustic
Fender American Series Stratocaster
Fender American Series Telecaster
Fender American Series Jazz bass
Gibson ES-335
Martin backpacker
Dillion DR450
Heritage Les Paul

Sound : 10
I bought this guitar to add to my collection. Tim Lawson put in EMG pickups in the guitar and it wails!!!!!! Very bright sound, great sustain!!! Price is unbelievable. I will keep this guitar forever and will WILL it when I die to my son.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 10
Action great out of the box, Tim did a professional set up and added the EMG pickups, plays and sounds like the PRS, Beautiful guitar.

Reliability/Durability : 10
I can't believe that this guitar sells for the price Dillion asks for it. Retail is around $850.00. I bought it for MUCH less!! Worth every penny. Very solid built, beautiful sound. I would definetely gig without a backup, but don't. I prepare for all problems on the gigs.

Customer Support : 10
Never dealt with Dillion, but heard that he is very helpful and cooperative. Tim's Guitar Shop will take care of all my needs!!!!!

Overall Rating : 10
BUY THIS GUITAR if you can find one!!! If you wanr a PSR, don't waste your money, it's only a name. This guitar excels!!!!!

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