Product: Hohner EBCE Price Paid: US $480
Submitted 12/29/2005
at 12:22am
by andi vax
Email: andivax at ua<dot>fm
Features
:8
i try many guitars at shop - fender, yamaha, ibanez.
they all suxx.
good pickup - shadow 7 (something like 5-band eq) :)
very silent!
8/10. 8 because i think very expensive guitar has best pickups :))
Sound
:10
d'addario neylon strings. very deep and warm sound.
nothing to say. AMAZING!!!
i want to put steel strings. interestin - how will it sounds... :)
Action, Fit, & Finish
:9
very good finish!!!
i fear about tuners - time will tell.
Reliability/Durability
:10
use it in the home project studio only.
but planing to play live.
jack out has good place. very comfortable for me.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
i don't know :")))
Overall Rating
:10
i love this instrument at the first sight!
i was came to shop with 200$ in my pocket. and very soon i buy this guitar.
very good choice for this price!
if i will buy another good guitar, i choose Line6 Variax Acoustics. 1200-1400$. it worth!
but now i am very happy with my litlle baby - Hohner EBCE.
recomend!
Product: Hohner EBCE Price Paid: US $370 w/acc kit
Submitted 07/01/2005
at 10:44am
by Joey
Features
:8
2005 Classical acoustic electric with cutaway. Laminated Ebony back and sides with maple body binding. Solid spruce top. Ebony fretboard, unbound mahogany neck. Gold tuners with black "ebonite" tuner keys and black cylinders. Funky mother of pearl and 'ebonite' inlaid rosette, ebony bridge with black plastic bridge saddle. The design style theme is kind of 'modern flamenco negro'. Electronics are the Shadow 7 system with under-saddle pickup. If you get the accessory kit, you get a good quality case, a so-so stand and a 'dust cover'-- never used one of those.
Sound
:10
I play both steel string and classical guitars, mainly spanish and flamenco on classicals. This is by far the best classical I've owned, which is surprising, because I didn't associate Hohner with quality guitars, but I think they have a great hit here, and are apparently adding to their catalog some higher quality guitars and basses. INCREDIBLE SOUND. I was trying like hell to get one without electronics, because I figured the preamp would add a bunch of mass to the guitar and make it sound like crap, and I tend to play most of the time unplugged in small rooms. I really thought that I would wind up pulling the preamp out and getting a local luthier to make a matching filler plate (ugh -- I know), but out of the box, this thing sounded GREAT unplugged. Very balanced with lots of bottom end, and great 'woody' sound on the trebels. I really can't say enough good about the sound. My selection was between this one and a Yamaha GC-21 grand concert (handmade, solid woods) for almost 3x the price. I gambled and ordered this without playing one, and man, am I glad I did. If you get one, you will want to replace the plastic saddle with a bone one. Improves the sound that much more.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:8
Overall -- good action, fit and finish.
Out of the box action was good. No fret buzzing, okay sting height (I dabble in Spanish and Flamenco, so I like the action a little lower than the typical classical guitarist). I had the action lowered a bit when the new saddle was put on.
The good -- Great woods, great fit, even though laminated, the laminations must be thin, because it booms unplugged. The soundboard gives a nice low sound when tapped with a finger. Thin finish --I totally expected this guitar to be similar to my EC132EX Takamine classical -- nice quality but with a finish so thick, you would think it's dipped in plastic, so not a good unplugged sound -- but I was wrong. The finish is nice and thin on the top, slightly thicker on the sides and back, but still very thin. Allows the guitar to really speak.
The bad -- Very crappy tuners -- you will want to buy new ones soon. file marks on frets, plastic saddle, possibly plastic nut (still sounds great), output jack is at about 5 o'clock on the lower bout instead of dead center, so depending on your sitting style, you may find that location problematic when plugged in.
Overall -- the quality and sound make up for the fret dressing and crappy tuners. Hey, it's less than 400 bucks, and sounds like something 3 or 4X that!!!
Reliability/Durability
:8
Haven't gigged with it, but it seems very sturdy. I've mentioned that the tuners are crappy already, so I won't go into that. I think it will last, sure do hope so, cause I love it.
Customer Support
:1
The only dealings I've had with the company were poor, but I haven't needed to ping them for repair or warranty work. When I was shopping and trying to find out more about the guitar, I emailed hohnerusa to get more info on the specs (because the darn thing is not on their website), and the person told me to check harmony central. Good plug for Harmony Central, but bad for Hohner.
Overall Rating
:9
I've been playing for 25 years, and doing setups and guitar-tech work for 20. Started with electric, then went to steel acoustic and now doing mainly nylon. I know the difference between quality guitars and junk, as I own both. I have several Martins (000-16 and a SP000C-16R), High end Taks (ESF-93, other EF's, EC132EX classical), Venturas (cypress flamenco, and V1600J classical), Yamahas (SJ818SB, APX10T), and I buy and sell lots of stuff that seems interesting in pawn shops and on Ebay. I am totally pleased with this guitar, even with the issues that I mentioned. Probably because I expected a lot less, and was pleased with a great quality and sounding guitar. After steel wooling the frets, getting replacement tuners and adding a bone saddle, I would compare this guitar to many high end classicals. Plus it just looks good. Hohner did a great job... I have to think they are selling these at a loss in order to get their rep back in the market. A ploy? Dunno, but buy one before they jack the price up or discontinue the model. I'm going to check out the EBAE next.
Product: Hohner EBCE Price Paid: US $350.00
Submitted 08/03/2004
at 06:15am
by Randy
Email: rad46 at ratrunner<dot>com
Features
:8
Ebony classical nylon string model. Made in 2004 in China. Solid spruce top, laminate striped ebony back, sides. Shadow p7 electronics with volume, sub bass, bass, mid, treble, bright and anti feedback switch. Piezo under saddle pickup. Ebony fingerboard and bridge, gold tuning assembly with black pearloid tuning buttons. Case included with package deal, but not always included, so ask. Very striking appearance between light top and dark sides and back. Gloss overall finish. Nice slim neck. Sound hole inlay a very modern white, black pattern unlike any I've seen before.
Sound
:9
Sound is balanced with more bottom end than one might expect, mids have a nice chimey overtone that is very pleasing. Unplugged sound very nice to my ears, better than my other solid top classical which even has a solid back. Plugged in sounds good too,but had to boost the bass slightly to make it as even as it sounds unplugged. I am impressed with the Hohner sound and pickup at this price.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:8
Set up well at factory, but I did replace the plastic saddle with a bone saddle which made a difference in bringing out the resonance and overtones! Would recommend the same for all acoustics with plastic saddles. The intonation up the neck is very good. An open E chord sounds in tune when played an octave up, something my Ibanez classical couldn't do! Most everything cut and fit well. The neck is straight,I have no fret buzz, even after lowering the action a 16th. Neck is slim, much better feel than some of those classicals with baseball bat necks. Don't know how they keep the neck so straight while being thinner. Although it's made in China, I think Hohner did a great job in getting a precision action and fit, that German engineering is great. A demerit however,the tuners could have been better quality, although they look great, a little slop in the tuning action, although they stay in tune if you come from below (flat) up to tune. Wood is beautiful, but a couple of very tiny bubbles in finish on back, not distracting though as they are small.
Reliability/Durability
:8
Reliability unknown for now. Guitar is lightweight which in my opinion is good for bringing out the overtones and volume. Whether that translates into less durability I don't know, but I'd rather have a great sounding guitar than one that's built like a tank and sounds like a cardboard box. There is no lifting of the bridge or bow of the top at tune so far, like on some very cheap models.
Customer Support
:8
Never dealt directly with Hohner. Warranty states lifetime except for strings, fretwear, tuning hardware. Seperate warranty for Shadow pickup which is 5 years.
Overall Rating
:9
Am a player for 35 years, own Martin, Taylor, Tacoma and others. Was quite impressed with the Hohner ea65ceq which looks a lot like a Taylor and sounded like a Tacoma. It also got a glowing review in a guitar mag for best in class at it's price point, so I thought I'd give this new Ebony classical a try, and I think it's as good as the aforementioned guitar. Website says this model has a new low mass bracing system and I think it does a great job for tone. I sold my Ibanez classical (a few years old) which did not have good intonation, to buy this and the intonation is much more exact. Might just have been that particular Ibanez though, haven't tried others. I like the black-white contrast in woods and the modern update in look. Not really able to afford those high end classicals, I really like getting a very good guitar at a lower price than paying 3 or 4 times as much for only a slight difference in tone. So an extra point for being inexpensive.