Product: Kramer Clasic Electric Price Paid: US $150
Submitted 11/21/2003
at 06:45am
by mbl
Email: brownplus<at>yahoo dot com
Features
:9
Just like everyone has stated...but am surprised by quality of the body (3 pc ash...looks like mines a 2-pc but probably just coincidence on looks)..the neck is incredible..oiled back not shellac and thinnish solid piece o'maple . White tele body didnt look that great online, but at home its very nice. Never thought id get an "online" axe, even less a Krammit kramer but dag if this git doesn't keep surprising me...i mean, you get ash through-body stringing body, solid oiled maple neck, locking gotoh tuners, good bridge, great fret finish and one great bridge pickup (the neck is kinda lame, as if i care for this price). No features for any tele really, but for what you get, this is top-notch tele features and absolutely kills fender up to their $650 gits....really now, I was sceptical as you, but woweee zoweee....
Sound
:5
SOund is ok...for now. out of the box its passable and the brdge pup is great...could be a bit better but for the $$$ its absolutely great. The neck pup is dark and blah and worhtless...i got a semen dunkin duckbucker thatll change that. Its surprisingly quiet with a bright punchy sound. you only get 3 sounds and thats all i need bright brighter and brightest!
Action, Fit, & Finish
:7
This baby came to me as if I picked it off the assembly line...i mean I cant find one fault with it...which is very strange and extrememly lucky from what I have read on ordering ANY type of online guitar... Frets awesomely filed, neck staight and ready to go, neckjoint/body cavity perfect....tuning pegs A+++...gosh, feel like a newbie gushing so much but hey, i tell it like it is. Problem with the buzzin though, it was a fixable thing, no one but steinberger can have a git come ready to play i guess.
Reliability/Durability
:8
this thing is colosso....put toggether very well, a bit heavy and its remindin me of the early teles that werent very light....this thing feels good, i can depend on it...those basswood/poplar bodies are fine and all, but this body creates more sustain, wont ding/crack as easily when dropped...its a bruiser! the SWITCH and barrel adjusters will probably not last that long....but whatcha want for the price...these are easily replaced.
Customer Support
:2
Musicyo...dont bother, im glad i got a keeper. they have no phone # and dealing with anyone online is always a hassle for the time it takes...they are pretty good with returning emails though...i dont know if kramer warrants these? are they still around in business form other than just selling their name to korea????
Overall Rating
:10
Holy shmoke...been playing fo 20+ years...and alwyas strats...had a Tokai goldsounds my entire playing life with a carousel of backup gits...you name it from hofner to fender to shadow to guild to ovation to peavey to brian moore to gibson to ....just about all of the majors. THe only deal i have come across close to this one was my Tokai bought new in 82. Wanted a tele...never had one? Funny enough, this was the sound i had modded my tokai strat for ...when this one is finished with a few minor upgrades, itll be my new baby...the tokai is fallin apart, this krammit will take me for the next 20 years. SOunds great through a modded electar 10 with birch cab and open back, weber speaker...a perfect bar setup. OH YEAH... I LOOKED for 6 MONTHS for an affordable tele...was in NO HURRY and came very close to spending more than TWICE as much for a FATDAWG subway guitars tele...it was sweet but couldnt be much better than this for the dough...the jaytursers and fenders without the string-through bodies...peeee-u....without the ash bodies....those aren't REAL teles!
Product: Kramer Clasic Electric Price Paid: US $200
Submitted 03/27/2003
at 04:49pm
by chjstens
Email: stensrud<at>bellsouth dot net
Features
:10
This guitar is a 2003 model, made in Korea. 22 nickel steel frets. Body is 3 piece swamp ash with a transparent white finish. Controls are volume, tone, and 3-way selector (bridge, both, neck). Pickups are passive Telecaster copies - single-wound at bridge, single-wound lipstick at neck. Neck is maple with maple fretboard. Frets are a bit small for my taste, but still very plaable. Finish is nice, especially for price. Fit of the neck/body joint is not as clean as my American strat, but still good. Tuners are locking Gotohs. Comes with a cheapo cable.
I'll rate construction on price vs. quality at a 10 - it's hard to get this quality in axes more than twice the amount for this one.
Sound
:9
I'm using this guit with a Marshal MG-50-RCD and various pedals. But clean, it has an unbelievable full, rich (harmonics) tone, and it gives me that Tele jangle. I play blues, and I think this axe will rage right up there with my Strat as an axe of choice.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:10
As mentioned, fit and finish are exceptional for the price. Not the same as what you'd expect from a $1200 guitar, but just super for the price. Out of the box it was in tune and correctly intonated. I have 4 other guitars for which I cannot say the same. I will lower the action a bit. Controls are smooth and accomplish their purpose. Again, I rate on price/value.
Reliability/Durability
:9
Haven't opened the top to check out the quality of the connections, but everything else is heavy duty and high quality. This thing will last forever - even longer than my Strat! I think I can depend on it, but I'd never, ever gig without a backup - no reflection on the axe.
Customer Support
:10
No experience with customer support on this purchase, but I have a history with MusicYo. You can't speak to them (all e-mail) but they go above and beyond to satisfy.
Overall Rating
:10
I have played on and off, professionally and as an amateur/hobbyist since 1964. I own a Fender American Strat, and Epi Casino, a DeArmond M-77, an off-brand violin bass, and an Epiphone accoustic/ electric in my current collection. These have sort of "bubbled" to the top over the years. If this fiddle were stolen, I wouldn't hesitate to replace it with another . . . period.
I bought this because I was experiencing Gear Acquisition Syndrom (GAS) and I hadn't played a Tele or copy in years. I haven't been disappointed. This one sounds better than the Teles and copies I tried at local music stores for more than half again as much. I know this sounds corny, but frankly, I don't know how they do it.
Product: Kramer Clasic Electric Price Paid: US $229
Submitted 03/05/2003
at 04:09am
by Vince Lucie
Features
:8
Solid (and heavy) ash body. Good graining and a nice honey color. Good replication of a Tele body of an earlier era, it has the less rounded edges. The neck is flat radius, which is not of vintage nature but plays well. The action was a bit too high for me and I was able to bring it down to where it almost buzzes...but doesn't. The neck seems very straight and tightly fitted to the body. I took a piece of foam and placed it under the strings on the pickup side of the bridge so that I could muffle some overtones and sympathetic whines. It does the job very well....sort of like the mutes on Jaguars. This is something you do if you are of a "Nashville" pursuasion. If you are a rocker...well you don't do this.
I prefer a clean and dry and twangy sound. But that is not for everyone. The finish on the body is a high gloss, urethane, I am sure. The neck is satin and not of a honey color. The heads are Grover lock-tites. The bridge saddles are chintzy while the bridge plate is decent...I will replace the saddles. The great thing about this modestly priced Tele Clone is that it has THRU BODY STRINGING!!!
This is important to me and necessary if you hope to even approximate a true Tele sound. Another thing that pleased me was the fact that under the pickguard there were no open routs. There were no open wire channels at all. This is important because I like to remove the pickguards and keep the body "naked" as it were. Especially on this model with its high grained good looks. The pickups are decent even when going direct to a recorder via a compressor pedal (Boss CS-3 or MXR Dynacomp).
Sound
:7
The pickups are not noisey but they are not 'quacking' enough for my taste...so eventually they will be replaced with what....I know not.
It gets a reasonably acceptable Tele sound...but akin to a more recent model...and nothing vintage. But, as I said, pickup replacement should rectify that especially with the nice ash body and thru body stringing....
Action, Fit, & Finish
:9
The action is good and the neck seems very straight. The flatter radius may take some getting used to especially in tandem with a Tele..but for $229 this is a good deal. The body is very high grade.
The body is composed of 3 laterally spliced pieces of ash. The graining is superb. The body alone is worth the price of admission. The nut seemed adequate and is in the color black which is unvintage looking, as I prefer bone white. But all things seem to work well.
Reliability/Durability
:8
It is a Tele in essence. This axe should last a long time. I have been playing for 37 years and have owned them all. I once had a 1951 Fender Esquire (wish I still had it...paid $250 for it in 1970)
and I have owned 60s, 70's, 80's Teles (consecutively...and not simultaneously). I have owned Teles (and other guitars) made in the USA, Japan, Mexico and Korea and this Korean made Tele compares well with them all...and is some cases is better.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
forget it....you buy it and after a period of approval you are on your own. I once bought a Steinberger from MusiYo...and had to send it back as it pretty much had an inferior neck. They were obliging. But this is not like dealing with your local neighborhood store....if you want human contact...find a local guy you can support. At MusicYo...you never speak to a human person...only to a computer!!!!!
Overall Rating
:8
As I said, I have been playing for quite a while and these days I do more Organ/Keys playing. But I missed having a Tele...which was my very first axe back in '67 (got a rosewood board, blonde tele at a local store in Eastchester, NY for a measley $145!!! Wish I still had that one as well...oh, well live and learn.) So, for the reasonable sum of $229 I took a chance with MusicYO once more...and so far...so good.....This Tele is as good as any Tele standard by Fender...and in some cases is better. Forget about Squire...go here instead...Of course it would not compare with a USA standard Tele...but I tell you what, with a few bucks added into it...it could....Now for the "ikf it were stolen" question....if it was stolen...I probably wouldn't track another one down....not because I don't like it....but because there are so many ways to get a Tele now...I am always on the lookout for new approaches....I most likely would buy parts and build one for myself...which I have done in the past...and that is always fun.....
Product: Kramer Clasic Electric Price Paid: US $199.99
Submitted 10/08/2002
at 11:01pm
by Jeff Cooper
Features
:9
2002 Made in Korea. Great features, Swamp Ash body, Graphite nut, locking tuners.
Sound
:1
Sound sucked..Nut was filed poorly and bottom E was dead.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:1
As stated graphite nut was filed poorly, one of the tuners was missing a screw and the swamp ash body had a huge black knot showing thur the finish in the front middle of the guitar.
Reliability/Durability
:No Opinion
Customer Support
:1
The worst ever...there is no way to talk to a living person. I returned the guitar and 3 weeks later they still had not shipped a new one even though the were in stock. I was able to eventually get a refund.
Overall Rating
:1
I bought other Kramers and was actually shocked by the amount of guitar for the money. This one had a world of potential but they blew it. I have purchased several items from musicyo but after this I will have to think long and hard before doning that again. I have ordered an electar amp afterwards but only because that was all my son could afford.
Product: Kramer Clasic Electric Price Paid: US $179.00
Submitted 10/06/2002
at 09:43pm
by Anonymous
Features
:9
2002, made in Korea Tele, bought in October 2002. Clear natural finish over solid swamp ash(three piece, matched nicely). Solid maple 22 fret neck, satin finished, thin-wide and fast, Grover locking tuners!(they advertised Gotoh) and graphite nut. Came strung with 10's, over a chrome six piece bridge. Kramer single coil bridge and chrome covered neck pickups. Came shipped with a cable and tools.
Sound
:9
My friends and I have dubbed this guitar the "Tele with muscles". The Kramer single coil pickups are exceptional, and sound like hot Seymour Duncan Nashville Studio pups. The output seemed more than a Seymour Duncan JB. Bridge position has a broad range and can get hot rock tones as well as traditional twang and harmonics, and is extremely quiet for a single coil. The neck pup is smooth, tonefull and quiet. The neck pup seems to be reverse wound-reverse polarity, so that middle switch position with both pickups engaged yielded a humbucker with clear fatter Tele sound retaining some twang. Compared to the PRS's ,Parkers, Gibsons, ect,and oh, and the '52 Tele reissue we had here, I can honestly say there is quality tone in this guitar. Intonation and open string chords sound right(after a good set-up).
Action, Fit, & Finish
:8
The hardware and finish are first rate. However, this guitar had the third position on the graphite nut cut too wide, causing the string to move in the nut, making metallic sounds when bended. This was repaired by cutting the notch a little deeper with a knife, but it may need a new nut. The neck pickup was mounted slightly too close to the neck causing the pickguard to push up against it. This was easily fixed. Fretwork is great, but needed final polishing. The guitar was restrung with DR pure blues 9-42's, action lowered slightly, truss rod re-adjusted, and bridge intonation set.
Reliability/Durability
:9
I've been playing the hell out of this guitar,and it is rock solid. Stays in tune after a beating (thank you locking Grovers). Pulling ,squashing, jumping, transporting won't phase it. A quality instrument.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
I havn't contacted them yet. I don't know if I will. A day of tweaking and slight repair has yielded an awesome axe. Seems kind of petty to complain, considering what was paid, and what was gotten!
Overall Rating
:9
You can easily pay $900-1200 for a guitar of this quality.
Been playing over thirty years. As someone else put it, this guitar is a 'diamond in the rough'. Musicyo is a wholesaler, owned by Gibson. These guitars are professional instruments, but may (or may not)require the kind of work a retailer might have to do before selling a guitar, so figure these costs in if you require a professional guitar.
As a final note, listen to some Hellcasters cd's. This guitar will give you the tones effortlessly(and then some), you just got to play the licks.
Product: Kramer Clasic Electric Price Paid: US $229
Submitted 06/09/2002
at 05:58pm
by Anonymous
Features
:8
2002 model. Newly added to the Music Yo.com site. $229.
I had been eyeing the 52 reissue telecaster from Fender, this guitar hits most of the buttons that one would have. Traditional Telcaster style body shape in 3 piece ash. One volume, one tone control. 3 way button top switch. Kramer pickups. Passive electronics. Solid, one peice maple neck w/skunk stripe! Anitique natural finnish ( which is very similar to the 52 reissue). Modern tele bridge with individual barrel saddles. Ghoto Magnum lock tuners ( nice qulity there). 25.5 scale. A rock player neck, very comfortable. Came with a cheapo 6ft guitar cord . I give it an 8 here since it is a traditional package, and hold true to that vibe. A one peice body would make it a 9, better pickups a 10.
Sound
:7
Sounds good in my initial playing, it really grows on you. The KRamer necks are comfortable and play well. The sounds are good. Lead position yeilds a useable rock sound, back off the volume for a tele spank, if not quite a chiken pickin sound. Middle position is a nice beefy rythm sound with good definition, even with distortion, lower volume makes for a nice chording sound. neck position is a bit bassy, has a blues or jazz kind of vibe, with a little less definition than the lead pickup, but it works well over all as another sound. Not much noise, or i should say controllable. under florecents theres a little high end buzz, but not much at all really. Played loud it is easy to mute the strings for a quite passage. I am impressed with the stock sounds. i didnt expect it to sound and play as good as it does for the price. i give it a seven for good sounds, if not exaclty vintage sounding. the rythm pickup brings this score down a point for being just a tad to bassy.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:6
The fit of the parts is practically flawless, eveything is tight, the neck pocket is like a glove- though I notice the neck and neck pocket are not the same as a strat, I.e. a strat or aftermarket neck may not be compatible. The neck heal is curved. A traditinal tele neck is flat I belive. The frets are kind of small, but thats ok, closer to vintage. The set up is so -so form the factory. A bridge screw nedds another twist, the bridge pickup was set up very sclose to the strings. Ther intonation form the factory was passable, but will need some fine tunning, as well as the saddle height and curvature of the saddles. the specs are a 14" raduis, the saddles appear to be closer to 16 or 18". The frets are decently polished, however there are some file marks left on the tops of the high side of the neck which cause a grating noice when strings are bent ( didnt hear this noise comming through when okayed throyugh an amp much). And some minor buzzes along the neck. This will need a very minor fret dressing to level the buzzing frets and polish away the file marks for smother bends- note thet the frets are rather short so leave the dressing to a pro. Then it should play liek a dream. The saddles seem a little rinky dink, I may switch them out for modern saddles. The neck releif was adequete, and seemed to respond well to minor adjustment. The tuners are smooth, locking tuners are overkill for this guitar, I think they just the same neck as the more expensive duo pro model. The nut is adequetly formed, though the strings seem a but high at the nut, requiring some minor adjustment for comfortable fretting low on the neck. The wood itself looks good, the finish is well done, some minor burl and knotting in some small areas ( these comsetics are where you really pay more for on a fender). The neck is finished in clear satin and feels good- wish it had a tinted finish to match the body- minor thing. This guitar is heavy! but feels good on a strap or in your lap. For fit and finnish i give this guitar a 6, needs a little more finese at the factory to be a real fender killer. But for $229 it is a really good guitar!
Reliability/Durability
:9
Seems like a well built quality instrument. I expect it to last. Pretty thick finish, holding true to the slab archetype. Ahrdware seems to be of good quality. The strap buttons are not the traditional cone shape, more to a circle on a post, hold the strap well. Seems solid. I would be comfortable playing out with it.
Ill give it a 9 here, but only time will tell.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
I've bought several instruments from MusicYo.com. Always fast shipping and quality merchanside- often better than youd expect for the price. The warrenty is only 90 days, but honestly how often as an expereinced player do you get an instrument serviced? I guess thats some reason it sells for a good price- they dont have to back it up with a wide service network. Everything seems solid, so I dont expect any problems. Here I have no opinion, havnt had to worry about the warrenty on anything from Music yo.
Overall Rating
:9
Ive been playing for almost 20 years and have lots of guitars. The clasic, is just that. A well built diamond in the rough. Ill be using my guitar set up knowledge to take it to the next level. I'd suggest figuring in the cost of a fret dress and set-up into your costs. But try to find a ash bodied tele in vintage butterscotch for less than $700 new, and yer dreaming. Some advantages of this instrument over traditional models are, a "rock and roll" neck of solid maple ( no fretboard slab) with a skink stripe and a modern neck profile. Graphite nut, and individual saddles. And after all is said and done the price is easy on the wallet. A perfect starter guitar, and a welcome addition for the expereinced player on a budget. A 9 overall, a few minor blemishes and set up issues. Other wise an excellent guitar.