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Rickenbacker 650D Dakota

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Price New Rickenbacker 650D Dakota @ Musician's Friend
Manufacturer URL http://www.rickenbacker.com/
Features 8.4 (17 responses)
Sound 9.1 (17 responses)
Action, Fit, & Finish 7.8 (16 responses)
Reliability/Durability 8.8 (16 responses)
Customer Support 7.0 (5 responses)
Overall Rating 9.0 (17 responses)
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Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: USD 899
Submitted 12/19/2007 at 03:16pm by S
Email: sjm_empty at hotmail<dot>com

Features : 8
This one will take a while to read, but stay with me, there's a lot to say about this guitar! I'll be quick with the boring details and take my time with the good shit.
Maple neck-through, walnut wings, 2 humbucker, 2v 2t 3way toggle, hardtail with rollers, 24 fret 24 3/4" scale. Love the cresting wave body, a great mix of classic and contemporary. Most interesting about this guitar, with a thin and small body (only 12" long, 1 1/4" thick) that meets the fretboard at the 24th fret, a thick neck (made even heavier with a second truss rod) and a big headstock, this guitar follows the recipe for what should an awkward and neck-heavy nightmare of an instrument. You'd expect it to swing down and take out a knee-cap with the headstock should you let go of the neck while standing with a strap. Surprisingly, it's very well balanced! And very comfortable to play. The overall design is very simple, it lacks nothing and has nothing unnecessary.

Sound : 8
Though Rickenbacker claims the humbuckers to be high output, they're much less output than my P90 equipped guitars, and a small fraction of what you'll find from high output humbuckers. However, they are DEAD SILENT. I've killed my noise gates completely while recording, can give my amps a bit more gain, might even have to boost my compressors a bit. I get some beautiful sounds from this guitar while clean. Distorted, the pickups lose some clarity but still sing. This guitar sounds amazing through a Fender Twin Reverb, with a little tremolo and reverb, and with enough gain for a touch of overdrive. You really have to take the time to find the right sounds from this one, it isn't obvious and it doesn't do the work for you. Not a guitar for the lazy.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 10
Many companies use the term "Hand-Crafted" when there is very little if anything really done by hand. In most cases it means "Machine Made EVERYTHING, but Assembled By Hand". I don't claim Rickenbacker does everything by hand (if that was the case, this guitar would carry a much larger price tag), but there are signs that point to some real labor hours and human attention going into this instrument. It is hand finished for starters, an attractive raw and natural finish at that. And there are tool marks and imperfections, though barely detectable by even a trained eye, which suggest skilled human labor. Then there's the serial number hand-written in pencil with a worker's initials inside the control cavity.
Out of the box it plays fine. Take a little extra time to tweak it and set it up for yourself, and you'll be blown away.

Reliability/Durability : No Opinion
The raw finish won't stay new forever, but it will age gracefully and show signs of its use. The hardware is perfect. I hope the second truss rod will minimize the need for seasonal adjustment, but I've only had this guitar 2 weeks or so, I can't predict its long-term wear or maintenance needs.

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : 10
Played over 15 years, touring professional musician. I look for an instrument's ability to inspire a unique song, not it's ability to do the work for me. If you're lazy, buy an Ibanez or an ESP. If you want a complex and unique instrument, this might be the one for you.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $650
Submitted 07/29/2005 at 12:20pm by gearhund
Email: ngronlund at comcast<dot>net

Features : 9
The main feature of this guitar for me is the Rick "cresting wave" body shape. This is about my favorite guitar shape of all time. The fretboard finish is satin rather than the typical Rick gloss, so it feels and plays better than other Ricks.

Sound : 9
The stock guitar sounds good, but I was missing that classic Rick sound. So I bought a Rick "High Output" single coil pickup for the bridge pickup from Pick-O-the-Ricks. It drops right in and the soldering was easy. I checked that the wiring diagrams are exactly the same on the humbucker and single coil 600 series guitars.

The sound is now mucho more versatile. I can get that classic Rick bridge pickup sound. Switch on both pickups and I now have a quacky out-of-phase sound that really puts out the funk. And the neck pickup has that darker bluesy humbucker lead sound. Lots-O-choices.

I give it a 7 without the mods and a 9 with.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 7
This is a beautiful guitar. Everything works tight and smooth. The neck is more of a "players" neck than other Ricks. But, as delivered, the low E wanted to keep dropping off the fretboard when fretted. I was able to adjust the bridge roller inward so that the string stopped dropping off, but it seems that the nut groove for the low E string was cut a hair too far outboard.

Reliability/Durability : 9
Seems well made.

Customer Support : No Opinion
No Opinion. Wiring diagrams are available at the Rick website.

Overall Rating : 9
This is my favorite guitar body shape and would make anyone stand out in the field of strats. I wasn't real crazy about the stock bridge humbucker pickup, but installing the Rick single coil bridge did the trick for me. Now it sounds like Rock-n-roll.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: 550 (GBP)
Submitted 07/27/2005 at 05:42am by Pete

Features : 8
This review is for a 2002 model, bought used 2005. People have already listed the features. The bridge makes it very easy to change strings and is easy to adjust each string in 3 directions (height, length, position across the neck). An attractive case is included; the case itself looks strong but the catches on mine are a little unconvincing for only 3 years old (maybe the seller swapped the case for an older one...). I love the shape and general appearance. Some reviewers have commented that the guitar is a pain to play seated, but I haven't found that at all - it is entirely comfortable seated or standing.

Sound : 10
Sounds fabulous for the mid-range price. Both humbucking pickups sound good and fat, clean or overdriven. Not dissimilar to a Les Paul, and quite unlike traditional Ricks. Playing it through Fender Blues Junior, sometimes with a EHX Hot Tubes; seems to suit these very well. Mine came with skinny-top/heavy-bottom strings on, which were not at all appropriate (couldn't hear anything apart from the bass string) - it's infinitely better on the regular 10->46 strings that it's now wearing.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
My used one was a bit of a mess when I got it - string spacing uneven, action very low - but all the problems were simple to dial-out, using only the supplied allen key. A 10-minute job, even for inexperienced me. Once that was done, I've found it very easy to use and to play. Finish and appearance are great, particularly as it looks like nothing else. A few reviewers have suggested the neck is much too fat. I disagree - sure, it's on the fat side, but I like that. It's possible to fret the 6th string with the thumb, no problem. I don't have huge hands or anything, so most people should be fine.

Reliability/Durability : 8
The parts look good quality, though I've not had it long enough to be a real test. The oiled-wood finish requires more maintenance than a hard lacquer would, but that maintenance sounds easy. Locking strap buttons would help live security - if I had a locking strap!

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : 9
In my 18 months of playing, this is the third guitar. I think this one will be around much longer than the other two. If it were stolen, I'd certainly like to get another, but they're awful hard to find in the UK.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $600.00 used
Submitted 05/08/2005 at 02:59pm by John

Features : 9
24 fret rock maple neck and fingerboard. Neck thru body construction. Walnut body. Tung oiled finish. Two humbuckers with volume/tone for each. Three way selector switch. Schaller tuners, one piece bridge unit with adjustable sadles. Comes with a case.
The neck is fat and wide. It is what it is...and it's pretty cool!

Sound : 9
Sound is very good via the Rickenbacker pickups. Good fat tone. Pretty quite. Agian...pretty cool here too.

Action, Fit, & Finish : No Opinion
Here's where the wary need to scrutinize. This is the 3rd Dakota 650 I've played. I ordered one from Musicians Friend in 2000 and when it arrived I sent it back due to poor fret work. It was as though someone ground them flat or something. When the replacement showed up it was a mess too. The walnut body had a major flaw in the grain...it was like a hole in the surface where it just had this end grain fiber just there...not the best quality control. I sent it back too. I told Musicians friend to just cancle the order and refund my money. I called Rickenbacker and the sales guy acted astonished as well he should have. He was at a loss to explain why this junk was out there. Well, 3 yrs pass and I need a hard tail guitar. I saw one on Ebay and won it. I must say this one is AWeSOME.
It playes and sounds great! Granted it is like nothing else around...the neck is huge...but it plays great. So...maybe the two from MusiciansFriend where blems they tried to pass off?

Reliability/Durability : 9
It's wicked solid. Built really well. The oiled finish can get dinged so care for it and it should be fine.

Customer Support : No Opinion
I havn't dealt with them since I told them the first two where abominations.

Overall Rating : 10
I want a second one! If I can find another good one I'll grab it. It's American Made, walnut thru body with a case. It is definately different. It's not like a Strat or LP, that's for sure, but so what? It's cool on it's own. I have it set up with really heavy strings, Ernie BAll not even slinky's...12 to 56. It's tuned down to a C and it really excels! I have 3 MusicMan Petrucci guitars, 2 six and a seven. This guitar augments my collection very well. I will get another and use it for more traditional tunings for sure! This is an under rated guitar. I can't believe they're not more popular. Maybe its that they're not always the best quality, at least in my experience.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $675
Submitted 10/17/2004 at 10:30pm by Phil Harmon

Features : 9
Standard 650D in maple neck-thru design with walnut wings and oil finish and dual high output humbuckers. Twin tone and volume controls, allowing precise level and tone from each pickup giving many tonal flavors.

Sound : 10
This is the best Rickenbacker I have ever heard. I agree with a previous owner that this guitar shines at hard, HARD country. More clarity than a Les Paul, and more body than a Tele or Strat. My father's old Gretsch with Filtertron toasters give it some competition, but the Ricky is cleaner and gutsier at the same time. The sound is fire and ice at the same time. Incredible versatility. As my father said, "This is the kind of guitar a guy could really get into". Somebody will someday become a legend with the 650D Rickenbacker. While more expensive guitars can match it overall, the 650D retains an unmistakeable character, separate from the classic Rickenbackers, separate from anything else. I think it sets the standard that others will have to aim for at its moderate price. All the cheaper imports are lacking in character that makes you want to play compared to this baby. Too bad these guitars are rarely seen hanging in shops, or they would be MUCH more popular. The Rickenbacker compressed roundwound strings are very good, and that's what I use. One other playing style this guitar would really shine at would be melodic heavy metal. It does a great job on classic rock, but its unique sound would tend to fit better within a developing genre that people are not totally set in their ways as to how it should sound. If this had been around in the early days of Rock 'n' Roll, Rickenbackers would be much more common in usage.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
I will count off for the fret ends that will need to be filed flush with the fretboard after the maple seasons out. However, the frets have a high polish and bends are delightfully easy. The neck is fat and wide, and after getting used to it I wouldn't have it any other way. It will handle the heaviest strings with ease, and any action you want is easily available with a little tweaking. I wish the nut slots were cut deeper. I may have the nut filed a bit, but this one hasn't really given any problems yet. I like the minimal finish, and I'm sure it helps the tone a lot. The maple neck wood is very clear and straight grained. The neck has remained absolutely steady after an initial settling process that took nearly a year. Big humidity swings will need some truss rod tweaking, but that's it. I think the lack of graphite or metal reinforcement rods help give the guitar its woody character. I'll put up with an occasional truss rod tweak for that soul that the sound has. Don't forget to lightly sand the back of the neck with very fine sandpaper. You'll get a silky smooth feel that no guitar with a heavy finish can possibly match. Once you get the fret ends smoothed and the action set to your liking also, it becomes a guitar that begs to be played. Once I get one of those chromed nude female silhouettes installed on the upper wing like Peter Buck has on his Jetglo 360, It will be my perfect electric guitar.

Reliability/Durability : 9
Of all the guitars I ever played, this is most like a tank. In spite of all that, it is relatively light for being made of heavy hardwoods because the body is rather thin. The thin finish means you will have to protect it from humudity swings, but that's about all you need to look out for in comparison to any other electric. Pots and switch seem to be good quality.

Customer Support : 8
Never had any warranty work done by them. It too a couple of days to get an email back on a question about another Rick guitar once. There are NO local or regional warranty facilities. After warranty expires, you must use local repair shops. The factory sells parts for owners who fix their own guitars. The prices seem reasonable.

Overall Rating : 10
This sets the standard in what I expect a $1000 or under guitar to live up to. I have dumped every other electric guitar but this one, and bought me a better tube amp and a Tacoma Chief acoustic guitar, also a kickass guitar for the price with a character all its own. I prefer this guitar to about all other more expensive Fenders, Gibsons, Gretsches, and Rickenbackers I ever played, if sound and character is the issue. You have to buy from one of the smaller companies to get a guitar that equals or exceeds it in character, but you'll probably pay at least twice as much. Its not as mass market feeling as what the big companies put out. I would buy this guitar again in a heartbeat, because any small warts it might have are totally eclipsed by its awesome sound and nice playing feel.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $644.00
Submitted 07/15/2004 at 08:27am by Rich

Features : 8
US-made one month ago (June 04), 24 frets, Walnut "wings on maple through-the-body neck (rubbed oil finish), 2HB pickups, 2 vol-2-tone, roller hardtail bridge, Schaller tuners. Came with case.

Sound : 9
I play all styles, and it is able to accomodate. Even though I knew that it had humbuckers, and would not replicate a 330, at first, I was a little dissapointed that it didn't have the immediate "Ric" sound - but after fiddling with it, I was able to dial it in - both pickups on, with the neck PU backed off a little. There it was - the compressed chime. Then I was able to appreciate the other sounds it offered. By far the clearest and noiseless humbuckers I've ever played - it goes from bluesy lead on neck to biting on the bridge - but I think it really shines on chord work - the open chords on this baby are full and angelic. It definately has multiple personalities. Have played through my class A tube amp, SS combo as well as my digital recorder's amp simulation - shines on all.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 7
The action was a little high, and will need the truss rods tweaked as well as possibly cutting down the nut slots a little on at least the outside strings - also nut is very square on corners, and will need some rounding off to be comfortable. Body is thin, but feels solid and will be comfortable to play for extended periods. The finish is nice, except for a small dent on the bottom edge near the jackplate - also walnut has a small knot located above the pickups which doesn't bother me, but might others - at a distance appears to be a ding or dent. Pickguard seems to be a little far from the strings, so that when I play, my right hand fingernails rub the wood between the guard and pickups - could wear at that spot, but then there is an method to take care of that (see next catagory). Case was a little dented on one end. Everything tight and solid.

Reliability/Durability : 8
Even though rubbing oil and sanding doesn't appeal to me for maintaining the finish, it is a unique method of repairing dings and scratches. I will try to avoid having any damage to deal with. Strap buttons are not straplocks like others have indicated, and seem a little thin. Aside from this, this is a guitar that is solid and can be depended on - it feels like one continuous piece of wood.

Customer Support : 9
I called them to ask a basic question and was treated courteously. I have heard that you had better send in the warranty promptly to make it valid, and that the warranty period begins when manufactured, not when bought.

Overall Rating : 9
I've been playing for 40 years, and own quite a few guitars - G&L, Gretsch, DeArmond, Epiphone, Harmony to name a few. It is nearly impossible to play one of these before buying since few stores stock them, but I am overall very happy with it, and think it will turn into one of my favorties. It is nice to see an american-made guitar with nice woods at this price. I love the feel, sound and vibe of it. I am a little disappointed at the very minor adjustments that will need to be made, especially coming from the "gestapo" of the guitar world. They are a bit cocky in their attitude - but I can also see that they have filled a niche consistantly for many years. The Dakota is probably one of the most vesatile guitars they make, and aside from what may appear as complaints (they are just detailed observations - I wanted to be precise), I think it is destined to be a classic. I would definately buy another one, but hope that Rickenbacker doesn't try to push them out of the plant so fast that they become notorious for overlooking small problems. I know this is their cheapest guitar, but at least for me, $650 is not a drop in the bucket. A cool feature is the ability to coil tap/phase reverse these pickups. That would even make a versitile guitar even more so.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $750
Submitted 04/30/2004 at 05:42pm by Woody Knotts

Features : 8
Dual Humbucker Rickenbacker, the first humbuckered Rickenbacker I ever played. Dual tone and volume controls for a lot of tonal variation. The tailpiece is a work of art.

Sound : 10
It spanks. Bigtime! Never before heard a Rickenbacker sound like this one. Pickups are really quiet, so it plays high gain styles extremely well. These are some really clean sounding humbuckers! And the sustain is incredible for a plain maple neck.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 8
Could be better, but very good for the price. I was able to achieve a very good setup and it plays great, as long as you like fat necked guitars, which I do. It's a really easy guitar to set up. The frets have a high polish and string bends are very smooth and easy.

Reliability/Durability : 9
There's nothing of significance that could break. It will probably outlast me by quite a bit. No neck reinforcement, but the neck is so fat that I don't think that's the least bit necessary.

Customer Support : No Opinion
??? Never used them.

Overall Rating : 10
This guitar should lay to rest the idea that Rickenbackers aren't exactly tone versatile guitars. It rocks really hard! I think it's best for classic rock and hard country, but wouldn't be afraid to try anything with it. Fender and Gibson better get their heads out of their rumps, because they have no competition for this guitar at anywhere near the price. Compare every other passive humbucker solid body guitar near this price to this one, because I think it sets a standard for American production instruments at the low price end.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $700
Submitted 01/23/2004 at 07:14pm by 650Delighted

Features : 8
Dual humbucker guitar with dual volume and tone controls.

Sound : 10
The pickups are quiet and have a very wide tonal range. Sustain is very good. About the cleanest sounding humbuckered guitar I have ever heard. This one really IS different! Whoever said Rickenbackers are One Trick Ponies has obviously never played a 650D. This is the kind of guitar you should really spend some time with and get to know.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 8
Very good for an economical production built guitar. RIC builds in smaller quantities than the other two major U.S. manufacturers and uses all USA components except for the tuning keys. You can get any action you want. The neck is very sturdy and will support the heaviest strings. You will need to file the fret ends after the neck seasons out, then there should be no problems for years. I think the light finish has a lot to do with the bright, clear, rich tone. Use a small piece of ultra fine wet or dry sandpaper to give the neck an ultra fast and smooth finish. It's better feeling than any gloss coated neck. This guitar only suffers in comparison with really expensive ones, and that's only the finish. The tone stands up against anything.

Reliability/Durability : 10
Can't see anything major going wrong. Schaller strap locks are standard, which is unusual in an American guitar at this low of a price. This guitar should last a lifetime.

Customer Support : 5
Don't deal with them after warranty expires, except for parts. They are honest, but don't have much time for you except for spare parts. Warranty is full of loopholes.

Overall Rating : 10
It's not perfect, it's just the best guitar you can get that's American made at this price, and you really should compare it to anything else made in the USA that sells for about twice as much or more. I like it better than any Strat or Les Paul I ever played. I can't understand why these guitars aren't a lot more popular than they are. Joe Walsh has the good sense to play one in concert. Don't for one minute think that the low end Fenders and Gibsons sound as good as this Rickenbacker. I'll even take this over any of the more expensive Rickenbackers, except for possibly the 380L which also has humbuckers and I haven't heard yet. It's just a simple little kickass guitar.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $699
Submitted 01/12/2004 at 07:22pm by Brian L.
Email: seripper85<at>yahoo dot com

Features : 10
USA made, neck through body construction, walnut body,24 fret neck. I have played Rickenbackers for over a decade and I can positively say that this guitar is unlike ANYTHING ever produced by the company.
For starters, this guitar has high-output humbuckers (yes, you read that right!) instead of the standard Rick single-coils more commonly found on their instruments. It also has the standard 3-way pickup selector switch and four-knob layout with no "blend" control, which is another common feature on other Rickenbackers.
Last but not least, the 650 series has a special roller bridge that greatly improves the sustain. All of these new features make the guitar much more suited for playing hard rock and even heavy metal, which makes the guitar that much more versatile than most other Rickenbacker models. I give this guitar a high rating for features because, although it doesn't have a lot of them, the ones that it does have work exceptionally well with this guitar.

Sound : 10
This guitar sounds amazing! I will admit to being a bit skeptical about ordering the 650D after reading the rather mixed reviews of it, but after receiving mine, I was pleasantly surprised with it.
I have a Rick 360 that I dearly love, and I was unsure about the way the humbuckers would sound. Well, I think they sound great. They have all of the versatility of the Rick single coils, but it is possible to get a Gibson-ish fatter tone, with them. The sound is very well-rounded and it is possible to get infinite sustain by selecting the neck pickup.
These pickups are also VERY quiet. It is virtually impossible to tell that the guitar is even plugged in until you strum it. Flick the pickup selector to the middle position, and it is possible to get that classic Rick "jangle" they are known for.
I like these pickups so much that I am going to have a set installed in my prized 360, if that says anything.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 8
The factory setup was flawless, as with every Rickenbacker I have ever owned. The neck is wider than most other Rick models, which is much better for leads. Since I have large hands, this neck fits me much better than the slim neck on my Rick 360. The finish was also flawless. The tung-oil finish (another departure from other Rickenbackers) makes the guitar more resonant. It also looks very nice and give the guitar a custom-made look.
My only gripe with the guitar was the area around the pickups. I noticed a slight gap between the pickups and the routing, but you would have to look closely to find it. Still, for a handmade instrument, I think this area should have been perfect. But that is just my opinion.
Still a well-made instrument overall, even better than some guitars that cost twice as much.

Reliability/Durability : 10
I have played this guitar through quite a few rehearsals and it stays in tune very well. Like every other Rick I have owned, this one is built to last. I could easily take this guitar to a gig without a backup (I plan on it!)
I feel that I can totally trust this guitar. Enough said.

Customer Support : No Opinion
I have never had to deal with them.

Overall Rating : 10
I have been playing guitar since I was 10, and I have owned or played jsut about every kind of guitar imaginable. My other guitars are a fireglo Rickenacker 360, a Gibson SG Standard and a Cherry Red Gibson Flying V. The 360 was my favorite guitar, but the purchase of the 650D changed all of that. I play mostly classic rock and melodic hard rocking originals, and the 650D covers any playing style I have thrown at it (I also dabble in jazz and country as well). I love everything about this guitar, and if it were lost or stolen, I would buy another one in a heartbeat. I was TOTALLY ready to send this thing back after some of the reviews I have read on this site, but soon after playing it, I can honestly say that I was blown away. This guitar is far and away the best deal out there in a solidbody electric guitar. This guitar looks, plays and sounds better than most guitars that cost twice as much. If you are looking for a great deal in a totally USA made guitar, and don't want to play what everyone else is playing (Gibson, Fender, PRS, etc.), then this is your guitar!


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $750
Submitted 11/11/2003 at 10:14pm by Gerhard Bach

Features : 8
What more could you possible need, unless you are poor player that cannot make guitar do it's thing? Maybe you would need a tremolo, but that is available from factory as option. Best feature is that all RIC pickups come in standard size and you can outfit it with any current RIC guitar pickup of your choice.

Sound : 10
This is very versatile guitar. I use mine in modern metal playing mostly, but it will do country, jazz, pop, alt rock, or classical rock styles as well. Pickups are very quiet which allow high gain playing style which is central to all metal styles. I see no music style that this guitar could not make positive contribution. The sound is somewhere between what you normally expect a single coil or humbucker to sound like, and that is what gives this amazing simple guitar it's chameleon character. I will not say it is very best sound to be had from electric guitar, but I believe it is unique and has widest application of any electric guitar I have ever played. Is this the most eclectic electric?

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
Again, finish is very simple, but very attractive, easy to be repaired, economical, and lending to best possible tone to be had. Only "girly men" needing external affirmation due to perceived internalized inadequacies would need to go to over priced guitars that offer less or same performance just for sake of public approval from those who know nothing of music gear. The natural finish fits an image reflecting the primal nature of this guitar and enhances the perception of our progressive metal band as a modern incarnation of ancient aesthetics. Well known guitars ruin the image, as it draws preconceived notions into the mind of the audience. The wood is hard and easily kept in attractive condition due to tung oil finish. In one of our best songs, "Gorey Road to Valhalla", both I and the other guitarist, as well as the bass player, swing our guitars like battle axes and strike them against each other on the backside. We have a thin layer of very hard foam for cushioning on the backside, but of course small dents will occur. There is no sign of cracking or failure in the guitar body after hundreds of performances, and of course the sound of impact is beyond belief! The action holds up very well during our very harsh treatment during performances. We have ruined several lesser guitars, and I tell you that a Les Paul or copy due to it's intricate nature of construction is too delicate for this type of treatment. A true metal guitar must survive the type of treatment that the music demands. The natural tung oil finish is pefect for our purposes. The bass player uses a Peavey bass in natural finish, and both instruments stay good looking according to the abuse they must endure. One thing that I had to correct was the "Gumby" shape headstock. My Uncle Nordahl in his woodshop converted the headstock to look similar to that on a 4001C64S bass, and now it is more fitting to the design of the body and the image needed for the band, while still being of a Rickenbacker form. I felt the headstock out of style with the rest of the instrument, but now it is perfect.

Reliability/Durability : 10
Our band attempts to combine the technical artistry of groups like Opeth and Bathory with the live visual impact of Rammstein. We are the type of band where the lead singer sets himself on fire (in Nomex suit, of course, that is worn beneath stage clothing) during our song "Immolation".Our equipment is tools that we care a lot about and respect for it's technical achievement, but we must place our tools at the service of our art and the tools must adapt to our art, and not the other way around. We cannot afford to replace equipment often, so only the most durable is chosen and remains in the band only after proving itself in fully realistic practice sessions. The 650D is among the very best due to it's

Customer Support : No Opinion
We are too far from California to ship our instruments for repair. We have nothing that we cannot repair ourselves or by use of local technicians. We have friends of the band that are extremely skilled craftsmen and we support each other without reservation. It is our way of life, and we live it like we express it in our music. The only support we ask is equipment that is meant to endure for a reasonable length of time under severe performance conditions.

Overall Rating : 10
Everyone in the band has been playing music for 10-15 years. We have seen lots of equipment that was poorly designed and could not withstand professional use as well as did not live up to it's reputation. Why the 650D is notused by many professionals in it's country of origin is something we cannot understand. The other guitar mainly used in the band is the Peavey EVH Wolfgang Special EXP, and it also has dual humbuckers with a solid maple neck and simple construction. The 650D is the best American made guitar for the price, and a better guitar than many of it's over rated more famous competitors that cost more.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $699.00
Submitted 07/14/2003 at 11:59am by Anonymous

Features : 10
American made Rickenbacker 650D, tung oil finish, chrome hardware. 2 volume, 2 tone controls. 2 "mini" humbuckers. Ric hardshell case included.

Sound : 10
This guitar sounds absolutely amazing. I am in two bands: one plays Steve Earle type alt-country, and the other plays Live/Candlebox type rock and this guitar sounds great for both. Clean, overdriven, whatever...Great sound. I play it through a Tech 21 Power Engine 60 with a Tech 21 Sansamp Tri-AC preamp, and an Electro Harmonix Holy Grail reverb unit.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 10
This guitar came out of the box ready to play. It was set up in the factory, and perfectly I might add. Pickups adjusted well, frets in great shape. A note on the factory strings: USE THEM! I use only the Rickenbacker strings made for 6 strings and they are an absolute perfect match. I had a little trouble finding the strings, but I did.
You must realize the neck is REALLY fat. I was at first very disappointed in this, but after a few hours playing it I couldn't tell the difference. I have small hands and the neck still seems to just hug into them. Iread an earlier review of a guy who sent his back in a few hours because of the neck, but it really takes a couple days to get used to it. The market has just been littered with flat,thin necks for too long.

Reliability/Durability : 9
This guitar is built well, with not a lot of "loose" parts to fail you. It is stripped down, bare bones, and built like a tank. The finish is tung oil, so as long as you reapply the polish every once in awhile it should stay great. The strap buttons are small, so if you play a wide strap or one with big strap holes, you may want to replace them. I have made this guitar my main one, but I will always take my Tele with me.

Customer Support : No Opinion
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Overall Rating : 10
I have been playing for about 14 years and have mainly owned Fender guitars and amps. Last year I played in a studio that had a Rickenbacker hollowbody and a Sansamp preamp and I knew that was the sound I wanted. I have since sold my Strat and my Fender Princeton Chorus and have completely revamped my setup. This guitar is the core of that new rig. I chose the 650D because it was the least expensive Ric, but it is built better than some $1,000 Fenders I have owned. If it were lost or stolen I would probably replace it with one of the hollowbody Rics, just because I have a little more money to spend now. I highly recommend this guitar.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $850 used
Submitted 01/27/2003 at 08:46am by Eric Yu

Features : 6
I bought this guitar used, so there are a number of quirks that I'm sure are peculiar only to mine (tone and volume knobs mismatched).
The neck is very wide, which takes a while to get used to, though I'm some people prefer it (while others despise it). I find some humor in the fact that the neck on this guitar is wider than the necks on Rickenbacker's 300 series 12 strings.
I like the rounded saddles in that they seem to help prevent string-breakage, though palm muting is a bit more difficult with this bridge than with a typical Les Paul-style bridge. See below under durability for some more comments on the bridge.

Sound : 8
Though I play mostly punk/hardcore, I've always preferred a less-distorted sound to really saturated chugging distortion. Some people have gone so far as to call my tone completely non-distorted.
To these ends, this guitar is really suited well. While friends have used this guitar for a much heavier sound on ocassion, I wouldn't necessarily trust it to primarily that kind of sound.
However, it's a Rickenbacker, and you pretty much know what you're getting, and chances are if you're not going to come looking for one of these to play really noisey stuff. I use it with a Marshall JCM 800 2203 100 Watt head. Love it, but....
One particular complaint I have, and I'm not sure whether this is due to the faulty wiring (I have no idea what the former owner did to it but the volume and tone knobs are all mixed up), is that the neck pickup seems to be far too quiet; I can't get a comparable volume to the bridge pickup. Granted, I don't often use anything but the bridge pickups, but on the off chance that it's not a defect peculiar to my own guitar, check it out beforehand.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
Though I got this used, and have no idea what the previous owner did to it (there's nothing cosmetically wrong with it at all, though there's a barely audible intonation flaw that will probably be very easily corrected if I ever am really motivated to get it checked out). Everything looks beautiful on the guitar, though I'm an admitted sucker for wood-colored guitars.

Reliability/Durability : 5
Don't get me wrong, I love this guitar, but there are some complaints I have.
My biggest complaint is with the bridge.
The bridge has six separate wheel-like saddles, which can be theoretically adjusted for fine-tuning width between strings. However, one of mine rusted up mighty fast. Also, another one was screwed all the way in one direction, and it's stuck at the end. It's not something that has affected my playing in any serious way, but even using pliers I haven't been able to unscrew it from the end. It's an ambitious design, and meaning well, but I think in the end it's several more things to get messed up.
Another problem I've had is keeping the input plug screwed in tightly; it seems to slip an awful lot and become loose.
However, in the end, it's still a great guitar. It stays in tune very well, and I've played it without a backup for over a year now.

Customer Support : No Opinion
Never had to deal with them.

Overall Rating : 8
You know, I thought I was getting a great bargain at the price I paid for this guitar, it turns out that I pretty much got ripped off, since people on here got theirs new (and quirk-free) for a lot less than me.
However, I still don't really regret the purchase; the guitar's sound suits me very well, I like the way it plays, and it sure it a pretty guitar, too.
Eventually I'm sure I'll take it in to have the wiring looked at, maybe replace the rusted wheel saddles on the bridge replaced, but there's nothing (aside from another six strings) that I want in terms of features that this guitar doesn't have.
I've had it for over a year now, and have been playing for about 14 years.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $675 delivered
Submitted 12/06/2002 at 09:23pm by Phil

Features : 9
Schaller tuners, Schaller locking strap lugs, heavy duty machined, polished, and fully adjustable bridge/tailpiece, hardrock maple neck and fingerboard with dual truss rods, WIDE and FAST neck-thru design with tung oil finish that allows much smoother movement than conventional finishes when your hands are sweaty, high quality QUIET humbucker pickups with a lot of single-coil flavor when needed, hard case included and very high quality pots, switches, knobs, and chromed steel mounting plate. The walnut wings in natural tung oil finish give it a unique and stunning look compared to other guitars in its price range. It only lacks a tremolo to keep it from being a perfect 10, and that's available as an option.

Sound : 10
For this price, it's at the head of the class. Those pickups are about the most versatile I have ever heard. It goes from a single coil to humbucker sound. Not the thinnest single coil or fattest humbucker sound, but more range than anything else I have ever heard. This is Rickenbacker's economy model? AMAZING!!! I think a lot of the credit for the good sound must go to the tung oil finish. It has been known for a long time that the plastic finishes used on guitars were mucking up the sound. Stevie Ray never got the urge to refinish old #1, did he? The sustain is incredible; it rings like a piano! You don't have to turn your amp up as loud as with other guitars to get good sustain. My Kustom Tube 12 amp with Celestion Vintage 8 speaker has more than enough volume to play metal and hard rock styles due to the excellent sustain. The Dakota does a great job on country tunes as well.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 9
It's a great guitar when price is factored in, but the pickup routings are a bit too big and cause gaps between the pickup and body. Nothing really serious, just noticeable up close. The tung oil finish looks great and is easily maintained by the owner. Multiple applications of tung oil over the years will only result in a more beautiful finish. Just the opposite of your plastic coated git box. I adjusted the action to suit my taste. The dealer had set it too low. I doubt that any guitar would come perfectly set up for me.

Reliability/Durability : 10
For he price, nothing is more solid and dependable.

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : 10
My brother loved the wide neck, and wished it was wider still. Don't pay attention to the person who rated it a 1 for having a wide neck. That is a personal preference and not a quality issue. I would buy this guitar again with no hesitation. Not only is it different from other guitars, it is different from other Rickenbackers as well.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $644.50
Submitted 10/30/2002 at 04:48am by Neil

Features : 7
The features have been reviewed in past reviews of this guitar. Two humbuckers, three way switch, neck through body design, satin/natural finished, 24 frets, etc., etc.,

Sound : 5
I have to admit that this guitar has a very balanced tone to it, not noisy at all.Very Hard to play, see below!

Action, Fit, & Finish : 1
This guitar has the biggest neck I've ever played, almost the size of a louiseville slugger bat (actually the bat's smaller). I hate the neck. I Hate The Neck. I HATE THE NECK. I guess that you have figured out that I hate the neck, huh. Otherwise the guitar was set-up very good, finish was excellent. I would give it a 8 here normally....but the NECK sucks so bad that I'm rating it much, much lower!

Reliability/Durability : 7
Looked to be reliable, I know the neck could be used to hit a few homeruns with. It's that big and solid!

Customer Support : No Opinion
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Overall Rating : 1
I've been playing for about 12 years. I currently own several guitars and amplifiers. I bought this guitar sight unseen and never played one before off of the praise of other's. They must all be very big handed, because I have large hands and was having trouble playing this guitar. I recieved it at 5:00 pm and sent it back UPS at 8:00 am. This would have been a good guitar.....but the neck sucked so bad that no matter how good it could have sounded it was going back!


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $549.50
Submitted 10/08/2002 at 08:41am by dave

Features : 9
Made in 2002 in USA. 24 frets. Solid wood - maple neck trhough body, walnut "wings", tung oil finish, cresting wave design - it's really beautiful! 2 vol, 2 tone, 3-way switch. 2 passive humbuckers. Cool tailpiece that allows for adjustment in all dimensions. German made tuners. Came with hard case - also very nice.

Sound : 10
I play folk/alternative rock, and this guitar fits that style well. I also have a '80 Les Paul Standard and an '01 Les Paul Junior Lite, and this guitar is a nice compliment between that full HB sound and the P100s - this does have some of that Ric jangle. Nice and bright, good attack, looooong sustain.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 10
Other than the guitar needing to be intonated, the setup was perfect. The guitar is flawless, and quite beautiful. All of my guitars have a natural wood finish, and this is clearly the best looking - the walnut is just gorgeous.

Reliability/Durability : 9
It seems very solid. The neck through design really gives it alot of stifness and stability.

Customer Support : 8
I sent Rickenbacker several emails directly and on the alt.guitar.rickenbacker about this guitar, and they have always responded quickly with lots of info - the CEO (John Hall) even responds! Great company. Only 5 year warranty though...

Overall Rating : 10
I've been playing now for over 20 years. Have owned several great guitars (which I still have: 1980 Gibson Les Paul Standard, 2001 Les Paul Junior Lite, Martin D-15, Godin ACS-Slim) and lots of stinkers that I ended up selling at 1/5 of what I paid for 'em. Lesson learned - buy quality. This guitar IS quality!
I compared this to some Fenders - didn't care for 'em. I'd definitely replace if it were stolen.


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $742 with tax
Submitted 08/13/2001 at 07:23am by Anonymous
Email: randyw at student<dot>flint<dot>umich<dot>edu

Features : 9
This is a 24 fret double cutaway US made guitar. It is a beautiful maple neck through walnut body. 2 very cool humbuckers with 2vol 2tone. The finish is natural. The neck is kind of fat and much wider than a rickenbacker 360. Nothing fancy in terms of hardware, but the neck through is somethig to write home about.

Sound : 9
I play pretty straight forward rock, no effects except my danelctro distortion and this guitar sounds excellent. It has a very clear full sound which i think can be attributed to the pickups which are loud and sre supposedly a humbucking design that sounds like a single coil. This guitar also has bright edge to it, but not annoying or shrieky like a strat or tele can be. Even without loads of distortion the dakota sings and has a lot of sustain. As far a versitility i think this guitar can cover any base. That doesn't make it generic but in my opinion unique.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 6
I had to order it straight from the factory and picked it up early june. The guitar is dated june 2001 so the setup is straight from the factory. The pickups werent adjusted correctedly, there are slight routing flaws(the routed holes are noticable wider than the pickups). The neck was very straight and action standard but the high E buzzed like crazy. Ive also seen better cut nuts also. The guitar still looks and sounds excellent but these minor things do dissappoint me.

Reliability/Durability : 10
very dependable. i dont have tuning problems and would play without a backup.

Customer Support : No Opinion

Overall Rating : 9
ive been playing for about six years and own an ampeg VT-40 and an epiphone sg. If lost or stolen i would definitley get another, i mean its cheaper than a strat and has a more unique sound. the dakota and the 650 models are really worth looking into. This is a fantastic value


Product: Rickenbacker 650D Dakota
Price Paid: US $660
Submitted 05/07/2001 at 09:16am by F. Mack

Features : 7
This is a 2000 model made in California...24 Fret job, solid wood (walnut and maple) with 2 single coil RIC Humbuckers. The guitar was amazingly smaller than I had pictured as I bought it mail-order. It remionds me of a strat by it weight and feel. Non locking German tuners (chrome) and came with a very nice locking hard shell case.

Sound : 8
I am still searching for the right Amp to play this guitar through. I ahve a cheapo Amp that I have been using and it pays the guitar no justice. The neck is widere than the strat but the strings are completely adjustable up and down and sideways. It has INCREDIBLE sustain and I have yet to tweek with the tuning...has held perfectly. I think that the guitar will be very versatile once I choose the right Amp. Strings bend like butter! Action is just a hair high for me, but not bad enough to fool with.

Action, Fit, & Finish : 5
As i said the tuning has held fine, action was a hair high, the neck pickup routing is a little off perfect but not glaring, the biggest complaint here is that the walnut seems to have a blemish or water mark that the tung oil won't cover. I am quite upset about that. I think if I could have gotten the Sierra Model I would have been happier asd I prefer the Gold hardware. The Dakota has the plain jane chrome. Very heavy duty in the hardware Dept. well put together.

Reliability/Durability : 8
Seems to be a very solid instrument! In all respects. Very smooth neck, need to purchase Tung oil to wipe it down with, requires a fine fine sanding cloth to remove any nicks that could occur. I have a good feeling about the guitar on the whole but not sure how it would respond to prolonged playing...need more time to evaluate it. Very plain jane in the neck dept too, plain black dot inlays....I would have like to have had the classic RIC sharks tooth inlays but it isn't possible with the 650 series.

Customer Support : 5
Very difficult to deal with the company directly...need a third party it seems. Haven't tried to get hold of RIC lately but even their home sight on the net is not fully operational.

Overall Rating : 8
Been playing guitar around 22 yrs off and on...still pretty much a novice, I wish I had the Sierra model, and Lone Star Strat, and a Gibson LP Custom then my guitar dreams would be complete...aww throw in a PRS-24 too. I like the smoothness of the neck and the free action, wish the finish was nicer...or wood quality. I chose this guitar due to the fact it was the best high gradr guitar for the price I could afford. Strats seemed so cheap and mass- produced, Gibsons were glued at the neck joint and extremely over priced, PRS guitars played well but seemed to be more of a "showcase" rater than a users guitar, if I sctratched it I would need a bottle of sedatives before I could look at it again! The Ric can have scratches repaired at home, is a "working guitar" very playable and comes with a rich history in Rock Music sound. If you are a Musician looking for a Gig guitar this may not be your answer but for working folks, novices or beginners this is a great guitar...and with its neck-through design and double truss rods you'll be playing sweet music a long un-interupted time.

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