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Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: USD 100
Submitted 03/19/2008
at 03:41pm
by Mark C
Features
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8
I have no idea when or where this kit was made. Basswood Strat body comprised of at least four pieces. Five way switch. Pickups: S/S/S of indeterminate make. Maple neck/headstock, generic tuners. Tuners are low end but usable. Hardware is acceptable. Pickups are better than I expected. But the holes/hardware all aligned properly and went together easily. I'll replace the tuners eventually but they'll do for now. Intonation was almost spot-on right away. Frets/fingerboard are very nice, a nice flame in it, nicely filed frets. No neck adjustment needed. I need some fine tuning with the action but that's no problem. Wiring was a problem only due to my inexperience in that regard. One drawback: the wiring diagram is a bad joke, but the Fender site helped with their diagrams.
Sound
:
8
I've been playing a Les Paul for more than 30 years, have always wanted a Strat. This one sounds more like a Tele to my ears, but I'm still adjusting the pickups, and I'm happy with the tone but I'm getting a lot of hum. I'll likely solder the connections once I'm sure everything else is done. I play rock/blues/jazz, mostly at home, haven't played gigs in a few years, so this gives me the tone I want for blues in particular. I record on my computer and this adds a tool to my arsenal.
Action, Fit, & Finish
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10
Factory setup seems to have been well done, parts all fit, holes drilled correctly except for two of the holes for the neck/body. I'll re-drill those deeper or get shorter screws to accomodate it. Pickups were set low, but it IS a do it yourselfer, after all. Intonation was very good right away. Minor adjustments to the saddles were needed. Routing of cavities was good. I've already mentioned the hum, but I may still be able to correct that. Overall, assembly went very well, and according to instructions. The finish is up to me, and while it has flaws due to my inexperience, the next one will be better.
Reliability/Durability
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8
While I don't play live anymore (but I'm open to offers ;))I feel it's tough enough to play onstage. Except for the tuners, the hardware seems tough enough too. Strap buttons are kind of rinkydink, but that's cheap to replace. Gig without a backup? I wouldn't even advise that with my trusty old Les Paul.
Customer Support
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1
When I had trouble with the wiring I emailed SAGA. Still no response after three weeks
Overall Rating
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8
I've been playing since about 1973, mainly on one guitar. I like this Strat style and the sound. If stolen or lost I'd simply build another one, the loss would be mostly sentimental because it's my first DIY axe. I'd have to rate this one at least as good as a Squier, better than the low end Epiphone LP knockoff I found at a yard sale a couple of months ago. Nobody is going to confuse this with a $700 Strat, but it's good enough for me.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 01/16/2008
at 09:37am
by rickthescot
Email: rltls<at>yahoo dot com
Features
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9
Body was in good shape and was sealed. I wanted to stain it so I used a power sander to remove the sealer. This is the toughest sealer on the planet. Grain was nice on the 3 piece body and the stain came out great (minwax water based deep ocean blue). Topped it off with wipe on poly, lots of coats. Easy to do and the neck fit fine although I had to drill the holes to mount it. Tuners were low grade so I replaced them with locking style ($25). Had to drill there too. Be careful of splintering if you do this.
Sound
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8
So far I have played it with a Line 6 Guitar Port and it sounds great! I can get any sound from metal crunch to smooth jazz to chicken pickin. There is a little hum when using just one pickup but no more than my old Fender Strat used to have. The notch tones are perfect though with no hum.
Action, Fit, & Finish
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8
Action came out great. As with any tremolo unit you have to fiddle with it to get the setup right. No big deal you just have to do it. I did replace the bridge screws with #6 - 1" from the hardware store as the factory screws were way to small to hold. With the bridge set and the upgraded tuners it holds well. Make sure you lube the nut well. I also put a set of roller string trees on it ($3 worth)
Reliability/Durability
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No Opinion
I think it will hold up as well as anything.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
No need to call them.
Overall Rating
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10
I took a 20 year break from guitar and this is my second purchase since I got back to playing. First was an acoustic. This Saga plays as well as I remember my 79 Fender Strat played. It also stays in tune better. I would recommend it to anyone who likes to put their own spin on what they play. No one has a guitar like mine. I like that. You could also upgrade it to the moon if you wanted to.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: USD 100
Submitted 06/08/2007
at 04:07pm
by Jon
Features
:
8
This guitar kit was purchased in June 2007. The body is three piece (not laminated) basswood. The top is sanded and you can't tell the grain marks enough through the top to tell if it is one piece blank or three. But... look at the back and it is three. I bought mine with no finish on it. It does have sealer though. on this particular guitar, the sealer job was GREAT.
When comparing this guitar to a $600 somethingorother PRS copy and a $400 cort (remember kids that Cort's factory builds all your ibanez crap) one thing really stood out. The fretjob on this guitar was fantastic. You could tell it had been worked on by hand. There are no rough edges like on most inexpensive guitar necks. Simple plastic dots on the front of the fretboard. Maple neck/rosewood fretboard. It's not a terribly awesome looking rosewood, but it's very durable. Some people prefer the soft rosewood, but I think using some abuse this neck is just fine. The nut seems low quality however. So I am giving this kit a decent rating because for the money, the quality of construction on these parts (hardware, body, neck... not including the tuners, pickups) is great for the money. I will be replacing the tuners (I'm picky) and the pickguard+pickups.
Sound
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No Opinion
Well, I won't give it a rating. After looking at everything... it's not a bad job done on this one. But - I'm not even going to finish putting it together until I get the pickguard, pickups, and electronics I want.
Action, Fit, & Finish
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No Opinion
The action is adjustable, remember kids, you're building it.
Reliability/Durability
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7
I think that this thing will see alot of abuse. If you're looking to try your hand at making a guitar, this is a GREAT way to go. If you don't mind the idea that you're paying for a neck/body and replacing everything else, then this is a cheap alternative too. If you want a really nice guitar kit, purchase a Carvin bolt kit. But from my experience, the only pickups from carvin that or worth a shot are the Holdsworth humbuckers.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
I doubt there is much customer support.
Overall Rating
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7
I've been playing for over 7 years. I have had use of a '78 Gibson LP Deluxe, a Fender American fat strat, a customized asian fat strat, a 12 string seagull acoustic, an essex LP copy, and some others along with bass guitars.
If you're looking to build one for the first time, it's a cheap cost for something that WORKS. But, it doesn't have all of the great options, and for four times the cost you can get something four times the quality somewhere else. My plan is to build this basically keeping the neck and body. The rest will be replaced. I highly suggest if you keep the stock pickups and pickguard that you foil the insides of the cavities to prevent too much hum.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $95?
Submitted 07/05/2006
at 10:00am
by tucker landoe
Email: land_o_saints<at>hotmail dot com
Features
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7
Kit was made in china, but there was no date on it anywhere, not even a stamp on the neck heel. Typical strat copy, 21 frets, solid with three single coils, and really crappy tuners (the heads are plastic). Also, it has a sort of mock rosewood fretboard, i don't think this stuf is real, though it could just be quite low quality stuff. body is bass wood and the neck is maple. came with really bad chord, like a speaker chord, it fuzzed like crazy, but as soon as i busted out a good fender chord, it sounded o.k. nut sucked (plastic). i give it a 7 for not being made of plywood (I HATE PLYWOOD!!!)and the basswoodhad nice grain. the body was real smooth because it was coated sating poly about 10 feet deep!
Sound
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10
I play classic rock and rock/blues type fusion, as well as write my own stuff. Actually, i mostly just ad-lib. This pickups in this thing really suck. I replaced them with some real good overwounds from off the internet. They sound awesome (better than my buddy's vintage '64 duo-sonic which has vintage '72 strat pickups wired into it) and they have a ton of output, they do about 15.2k ohms (bridge), and thats great for some aftermarket single coils from off of the internet. The only problem with them is that the they are all exactly the same size. The neck pickup has about a half cm of space between it and the pickguard. I thought that they were all bridge pickups, until i measured the resistance and discovered that they were not. Oh well, the bridge firs, fine sounds great, but was noisy as hell until i shielded that pickguard. now it screams. but the stock p'ups suck, don't use them.
Action, Fit, & Finish
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10
The action wasn't set up because you're supposed to do that yourself.
I used that bridge pickup from this guitar and one that was just lying areound and i made a humbucker for the 100% from scratch mustang I'm building (i've been in love with the mustang look since i first played my friends duo-sonic) The neck fit into the pocket really tight, too tight. i thought that i would break off the edge of the cavity if i tried forcing it, so, i hade to shim the sides a little. It fit really really good, but the screws in the neck were off, so i had to redrill them. easy enough. the neck has really ugly woodgrain, and you can't cut out a good headstock(i think they make it like that on purpose) I tried to make a big cbs head but it turned out crappy and the neck is really ugly, so i just bought and old squier neck off the internet, a real old one from when they still had a slab fingerboard, but it was really thin at the edge. I love veneer fingerboards. I especially like how the side markers are between the board and the maple. cool, just like a fender. the neck was 10 years old, and i am still in the process of refinishing it. the frets are flush with the board in some places, and there are green areas in the neck, so i have to refret and and finish the neck, but with the thin slab board and big headstock, i'm in illegitimate heaven! I painted it (the guitar) with some "space blue metallic" spray paint i got from a KC store. I would have done it natural, but there were pools of sealer all over, so i suspeceted that there were big dents in the body and was not abour to strip it. I got real expensive poly clear coat that cost me about 20$ a can... and it sucked. it was automotive and soft as hell, even after letting it sit for three weeks. i tossed the tuners and am going (hoping) to get some of those vintage "F" tuners like from the 70s reissue. we'll see. I also got new bridge saddles and balck knobs and pickup covers. If looks could kill...
Reliability/Durability
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10
This sucker's my main axe, it can scream, it's got solid strat buttons (i put steel woul in the holes)the harware is heavily chrom plated, I put in another trem spring(it only came with three) and i'm getting a brass nut. This axe is a monster! of course i'm gonna play live with it, i already have. It's very dependable, i just hate the neck and tuners. Finish is kinda weak, but it's thick and the paint is metallic so you can't see the scratches.
Customer Support
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3
haven't dealt with them, but there website sucks
Overall Rating
:
10
I've been playing guitar about {} years now(the first of which i had started on bass guitar) but playing overall music (violin, piano, harmonica, recorder...) about 8. I play this, a SX 57 precision bass copy, i own a squier that i never play, and i play through a dunlop crybaby classic=boss ds-1=boss phase shifter(my brother in law's, I only use it for the detroit rock city solo)=pastrami dj-1 overdrive into a homemade stack using my old pyle bass combo amp as the head.i get almost perfect sound from my stack and i make full use of all my gear (except the phase shifter) I am working on The GREEN MONSTER, a mustang copy that will actually be painted red but due to a mishap with some industrial filler bearing the same nickname, i'll call it the green monster. I actually built this guitar around spring break of '06, but keep on upgrading. It was fun and i think it's the ideal beginner instrument, considering that with and extra 50$ put into it you gan have a guitar that far exceeds a squier, and it will still cost less. That's what i did and i'm only fourteen. My dad helped with some of it, and it's just tons of fun. plus my guitar rules and it cost less than one of those 200$ squiers. it's sweet. just make sure you jnk the tuners.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $89.00
Submitted 01/15/2006
at 09:34pm
by Rudy
Features
:
7
Typical Strat stuff. This was my first experience at a do it yourself guitar. I did not use the stock machine heads and I did not use the stock pickups and I can't write about how it is stock because I never used them. I put texas special pickups in it and locking schaller tuners. I paid $89 for this kit and it was a good experience and I have a great sounding strat.
Sound
:
8
I play classic rock, mostly late 60's through mid 70's and some blues. This sounds really good for that kind of music. I'm not into metal so I can't judge it for that. Gets some good country tones also. I'm running this through a Hartke G60 Piggyback Rig, a Marshall MG30DFX and a Marshall MG10CD and it sounds well on all of them. This thing really sounds good with the texas special pickups although because they are higher output single coils, they make a little more noise but that doesn't bother me. Very versatile. I like it a lot.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
9
Well this was a do it yourself and it was my first try. I had to basically resand and refinish everything to make it fit. I chose to leave this guitar natural, so I just put about 10 coats of clear varnish on it. It would be cool if it had a maple fretboard instead of the rosewood, but I can live with it. This is a great kit if you are wanting to have a hobby and sort of learn about the mechanics of guitars.
Reliability/Durability
:
8
I'm a physician by trade, so I'm a stay at home player but I let a friend of mine do a couple of gigs with it and it held up just fine. The hardware is ok for home playing, not sure it would stand up to night after night gigs. Strap buttons are solid. If I gigged I don't think I would gig without a backup.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Overall Rating
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8
I've basically been playing guitar for 40 years, since I was 5, but never had the desire to be a professional musician. It's all for my entertainment. I have also the PRS and Tele Kits by Saga and I have Fender Strat and Tele's made in Mexico as well as a Korean made Epiphone Les Paul. I have Martin and Takamine Acoustics. Again, this is a cool experience. Although I had been playing a long time, I really didn't know that much about guitars except a little about setting them up, which I had to learn here in the Philippines because I can't find any techs. I thoroughly enjoyed putting together my 3 Saga kits.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $85
Submitted 10/31/2005
at 09:11pm
by bill
Features
:
5
Basswood body with a sealer - why they sealed it I do not know. The sanding work was pitiful. Electronics and hardware were pretty sad as well. BUT - this is a GREAT building experience!
Sound
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No Opinion
The stock electronics are just sad. But let me tell you two words - "Mighty Mite".
Replaced the pickups with a Mighty Mite prewired tortise shell pickup set. Very different sound - peel the paint high end! Try DancingDragon Guitars for the pickup
set. After the stock pickups are replaced, it holds up tone-wise fairly well to an American Strat ( not the same tactile experience, however!)
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
2
This is a hobby guitar, kids! But you are forced to learn how to set action and intonation, replace parts, woodwork, oil the neck, lubricate the nut -- it is just
a GREAT learning experience. If you are looking for a fab kit that all the parts are stellar but not cheap - carvin is your friend. But this was a great 1st guitar project. The body woodwork needed help. I chose to just put a tung oil finish on it and move on. I replaced the tuners, the string seats, the pickgaurd assembly, oiled the fretboard, replaced the string trees, and paid about $150 bucks over the original cost.
The fretboard needed some rounding of the sides of the fretboard to make this less abrasive, the frets themselves are pretty average. The string seats were replaced with graphite ones from Stewart MacDonald. Major difference in the ability to keep this in tune. I added in the max 5 springs and screwed down the tremolo to keep it from budging, tuning was a bear to keep stable.
Reliability/Durability
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3
You are making your spare guitar here. If you are looking for a learning experience,
and have the time to make a guitar that will be a kick-around one that you can modify
at will and start from scratch, this is a cheap way to go. If you want to build
a sexy Strat, you would do better to get parts from DancingDragonsGuitar.com or
warmoth. But if you want a practice version, start here.
Customer Support
:
1
This is an importer selling a ceap kit, so support is going to be terrible.
Overall Rating
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No Opinion
Played on and off for 25 years.
If stolen I would go for a standard Strat with humbuckers to provide a light Fender option along with my American Strat.
Would have preferred a better bit of woodwork, but it is light and playable after some work,
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $140
Submitted 05/12/2005
at 03:35pm
by bruce
Email: canisregis at earthlink<dot>net
Features
:
6
I bought this kit to have a test project for finishing...I wasn't really in need of a strat as I have a G&L Legacy with Fralins for Strat sounds, which is ofcourse a high quality instrument...When I completed it, however, I find it's really pretty good...Not without effort though...The nut was glued in off center, so I replaced it with a Tusk nut from Stew Mac...The tuners were also pretty poor so I replaced them with locking Klusons, also from Stew Mac...They look like the old strip tuners, but they lock in a very trick way...A nice touch...But the holes drilled weren't accurate enough for an easy substitution...The body is basswood, but adequate for this application, and took the nitro finish well...Decent, though cost effective neck with a pretty flat radius(12"?) with some well installed sort of jumbo frets...Very straight...A chunky U shape...Not Bad at all...The bridge is also ok...Pretty much what you'd find on a Squire...Maybe a little better...
Sound
:
8
I intend to replace all the electronics...They are cheesy...But I put it together with what came with it and am pleasantly surprised...It really sounds ok despite the obviously low quality electronics...Go figure...It is quite resonant unplugged...It sounds like a Squire plugged in and the pickups that came with it are ok for what they are...
Action, Fit, & Finish
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No Opinion
Well, since I'm responsible for all this it would be disingenuous of me to complain...I bought all my finishing stuff from the Guitar ReRanch...Nitro lacquer...I gave it a sort of relic finish which came out very well...A lot of work, but worth the effort...Some of the predrilled holes were off, but nothing that couldn't be finessed... You'll get out of it pretty much what you put in...So I'll leave that for the individual to decide...Just don't think it'll all fall in place without effort....
Reliability/Durability
:
8
This seems dependable...If it isn't there's only me to blame...But be prepared to make it so....I'd never gig without a back up...
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
9
I've been playing about 40 years now and I've got a ton of other guitars, mostly G&Ls which are really great guitars...This guitar as built is not perfect...but it's definitely not bad...I don't understand some of the other reviewers comments...Do they really think you're going to put together a custom shop strat from a kit that costs $140? I probably spent about $400 total for the kit, finishing supplies, and upgraded parts, and the guitar I got out of it is probably like a $500 guitar...Whoa!!! Did I just write that? That's a fair chunk of change, considering that you can buy a run of the mill am std strat for that, used...This thing, however, looks really cool, and is what I think a strat should look and sound like...It plays really well and is ultra personal...Plus it was enjoyable to build...It's rumored that Bob and Jacob Dylan spent some quality time putting one of these tele kits together...Now that's what I call family values...If you put some sweat equity into it, you'll get more than you pay for...If you just want to plunk $100 bucks down so you can bitch about what a cheap piece of shit you bought...Well you can do that too...But why would you want to?
I would recommend this to someone who wanted to learn about what goes into a strat and who's competent enough modify the kit to their own expectations...If I were to build another guitar, I'd probably buy higher quality parts from the get go, but for a starter this is a good deal...
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $69
Submitted 02/14/2005
at 08:14am
by Anonymous
Features
:
5
All the usual strat features... if ya need it explained... this review won't help you.
Sound
:
No Opinion
Well.. I can't review the stock sound because I took one look under the hood and replaced all the electronics. Cheesiest elctronics I have ever seen on anything. This guitar was a project for my kid to learn about constructing and maintaining a guitar. He plays though practice amps like a Roland Cube or Vox VT30AD.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
1
I understand that for $69 for a guitar kit compromises must be made with component quality and construction. So I guess we got about what I expected. The body is bassword, with numerous flaws and knotts, the routing looks like it was done by a beaver... the rout for the trem was crooked... fortunately the trem screw holes were OK and the trem block had enough room in the offset routed cavity. The neck pocket is also poorly routed and fit to the neck. Many holes for the scratchplate or trem spring cover do not line up to anything. The electronics are absolute junk! The tuners are even worse. The bridge was cheap... but usable... if you intend to tighten the springs up to keep the plate flat on the body and discard the trem arm. The neck was actually usable, even though it is of a low quality... it was straight and to my surprise... the fret work wasn't too bad. The headstock paddle was of a size and shape that prevents you from recreating an accurate Fender Strat headstock. The tuners/string trees do not quite line up with the strings coming out of the nut... so everything takes a slight left. Well that is the worst of it and what I expected for $69.
What I did do was install CTS pots, switchcraft plug, a quality 5-way switch and GFS vintage pickups ($43 from GF) and some extra Ping tuners that were laying around. I intend to use the body for a test bed to perform a good lacquer finish(don't want to learn on a good body). After asembling everything and spending some time setting it up... it actually sounds and plays surprisingly well for what it is... equal to my kids Mexican STD strat... even though the Mexican strat is overall of far better quality. But hey... We only have about $150 invested in this project.
Reliability/Durability
:
5
There isn't anything stock on this guitar that looks like it would be reliable or withstand any abuse.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
n/a
Overall Rating
:
3
It is what it is... if you want a fun project to do with you kid... or a testbed for trying stuff out first on a cheap guitar.... this could be for you. But absolutely don't think for even one moment you are building a quality guitar that approaches the quality of a fender for a fraction of the price... it isn't even close to the cheapest squires ever made... even the plywood ones. Want a good guitar on a budget... buy used. Want a fun project for the kid? This may be up you alley... with some component replacement and elbow greese... you can actually build a playable guitar from these kits and do some bonding with the kid.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $170 incl. S&H to Denmark
Submitted 11/14/2004
at 02:25pm
by Bo.Grave
Features
:
6
The guitar kit is properly made in The far east (China, Korea) bought 2004
It is a Strat copy with 21 freets and S/S/S pickups.
The body is some kind of Ash and the neck is Maple with Rosewood fingerboard Jumbo frets.
Screws and springs for the tremolo were missing. And the shop newer sends the missing parts.
The tuners were bad. The pickguard was like squire.
Sound
:
8
When the guitar was proper setup it sound great using an old Roland amp almost like my Fender Strat.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
8
The neck and the frets need some work, when the frets were planed and the trust road adjusted the neck become great.
It can play with very low action 1? mm at the 12. Fret.
I have got a great guitar.
Reliability/Durability
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No Opinion
Customer Support
:
1
There was no support.
Overall Rating
:
8
It's a Fine Guitar
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $97.00
Submitted 09/17/2004
at 12:46pm
by Anonymous
Features
:
4
Seems to have all the features I am familiar with on a strat-style guitar. I didn't like the cheap looking tuners that were sent to me so I went out and bought some Gotoh tuners and cut out the tuner holes with a drill press. The neck claims to be maple and the body Basswood. It did come with a very cheap cable which has a short in it so I will be throwing that thing away. The strings appear to be 9's or 10 gauge and they came wound together. I tried unwinding this mangled mess and would up throwing the strings away as well.
Sound
:
6
When I first plugged it up it sounded ok and it did get better when I intonated it. I sighted down the neck which appeared to have a slight twist in it. The strings had a buzz that I couldn't quite overcome and I took it into a more experienced tech.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
1
The action was high at the nut and I had to take extra time cutting the nut which was an added expense that I didn't anticipate. The neck fit the body well and the holes were all drilled to fit fairly well.
Reliability/Durability
:
1
This guitar was a waste of time and money. Although I had fun with cutting the headstock and tuner holes and painting/sanding it to a smooth finish, I was very dissapointed to find out the neck was twisted and the nut was not properly cut. The guitar will not even interest the garbage man during trash collection.
Customer Support
:
1
Ya know SAGA .... blaming the customer for causing a twist in the guitar neck is like blaming the carpenter for twisting lumber when he cuts a stock of two X fours to fit the dimensions of a house!! Un-believable!! But true!!! Dude's name is Tino. If you call tell him I said hello.
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
I've been playing long enough to know a good guitar and this one doesn't even come close to good workmanship. As I said earlier, the garbage man would pass on it during trash collection.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $93.00
Submitted 07/22/2004
at 06:29pm
by Adam Faucheaux
Email: afaucheaux9188 at aol<dot>com
Features
:
8
standard strat features,3 single-coil pickups, 5 way selector switch, standard tremolo. the body is made of basswood. the body is thicker than other strat copies i have played. overall it is nice.
Sound
:
9
it sonds great. not much hum from the single coils and the reverse polarity middle pickup is nice. if you set it up right the action can be very low with minimum fret buzz.the tremolo does not swing out of tune to much. teh neck pickup os a little weak, but that will be replaced.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
8
the action on mine was great, but i set it up my self. the neck pocket was a perfect fit. i left it natural but i will finish later. the truss rod did need a little adjustment.
Reliability/Durability
:
8
so far so good.
Customer Support
:
6
i got it from a dealer on ebay and he was all to kind to me. the dealer was slashmanmusic. he let me no what was happening to my package and where it was. as for saga? i dont know
Overall Rating
:
10
i loved it.i would definetly buy another if it was stolen. i've been playing for a little over a year now. i know a good amount about guitar in general. (Ex.; repear, setup,etc.) i am very pleased from the results and would not recamend this to a person who dosent know basic guitar setup, and construction. please email me if you have any questions on this guitar.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $90
Submitted 07/02/2004
at 07:59am
by Anonymous
Features
:
7
Basswood, Stratocaster-clone body with contouring and a transparent finish. Niceley finished Maple neck with unoiled rosewood fretboard with 21 "medium jumbo"-size frets. Controls are standard Strat fare- two tone pots, a volume pot, 5-way switch, and the helpful output jack. Pickups are sandard Strat stuff as well with three brandless (passive) single coil pickups (bridge pickup is mounted diagonally, like a Strat. The Bridge is a six-screw tremolo, with the strings mounted through the tremolo block and independantly adjustable saddles. The tuners are super junky chrome plated units. The kit comes with allen wrenches for the bridge, a super short piece-of-crap cable, assembly instructions, and a sweet padded sleeve that's handy for storing guitar necks in (if you have some sitting around like I do). Made in Korea.
Features are about what I'd expect from a guitar this cheap, but except for the strap bottuns, they are not on par with a nice (expensive) guitar.
Sound
:
7
I use this guitar primarily with a DOD Grind-IT solid state amp through a Digitech RP200 multi effect/ amp modeling pedal. I also use it with a Gibson GA-5 Skylark tube amp and a Gibson Mercury II (10" and 15" speakers in a single cab with separate head). Through the tupe amps, the Saga sounds nice and clean, with some bite with amp volumes high (maybe some overdriving). Through the solid state amp, the Saga sounds boring to me and somewhat "twangy." This guitar pretty much has one sound, and you have to color it with amps or effects (I am usually using five or six effects and amp models through the solid state amp to get a sound I like). This guitar is nice and quiet with switch in positions 2 and 4.
With the effects pedal, I find this guitar good enough for any of the styles I play, which includes folk-rock, punk (Bad Religion), other rock (Weezer, Cake) and some bluesy leads. I often mess around on the guitar though, trying to work out songs, etc.
Without the effects pedal, this guitar could probably play some classic rock, but not really much else as the tonal clarity isn't good enough to play lots of cords or alternating bass. The biggest probalem with this guitar through effects (heavy distortion particularly) is that it doesn't have enough punch to cut through a previous chord with another chord or bass run (the treble strings cut through fine).
This guitar doesn't sound great, but it is certanly acceptable, especially through tube amps.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
8
This guitar is a kit, so any set up problems should be my fault. However, the nut on my guitar was filed too deep so the strings would virbrate on the frets, which makes un-pretty sounds. The frets and fret work were good, but not polished. The finish is thin because you are supposed to go for a solid finish over the sealing coat they give you, but I chose to just polish the sealant coat, which turned out to be pretty good, and it doesn't hold fingerprints much. The tuning machines are really crappy, and come out of tune very easily, even after being greased. The wood quality is nothing special, but not really bad for a guitar that costs less than $100, there are some knots, however and the body is made of at least 3 pieces of wood, which would be fine if you paint it a solid color, but you can see the transition lines with a clear finish. The screws and things are soft and low quality, but they work ok. most of the holes on this guitar were drilled in the right places, but the cover for the rear tremolo routing only lines up for three screws (of the six that it should have). One problem, the soldering work is very poor and the bullet connectors are no good either, also my guitar's 5 way switch only worked in two positions. The pickguiguard is nice and laminated white-black-white.
This guitar plays pretty well, and it looks good, which is more than you can say for a lot of guitar in this price range.
Reliability/Durability
:
5
I don't play the guitar live, so I can't tell if it will withstand live playing. The tuning machines are very poor quality, and I would replace them with cheap sealed tuning machines before I played the guitar live. The finish I have on it is probably too thin for live playing, but if you do what the instructions say and use acrylic lacquer, it will probably be fine. My guitar has one light stratch on it, after about six months of fairly heavy playing, but playing isn't what hurts guitars. The finish on the neck is thin, but that has been a good thing in my experience. In six months of playing, the neck finish has noticably lightened where my hand has worn the finish off from normal playing. The strap buttons are very nice (nicer than the carvin units I have)and have foam pads so they dont hurt the finish on the guitar. I would depend on the guitar, but only afted I resoldered everything and replaced the switch with a better quality one.
Basswood is supposed to be a pretty soft wood, but I would think that with a reasonable finish, this would stand up to the abuse you can put some crappy agathis bodied guitar through.
Customer Support
:
5
This guitar is a Kit-- it has no warranty. I was missing the pot and switch knobs when I got it, and notified Saga. A few weeks ago I got pot knobs and a new switch, which was good because the original switch didn't work. Saga did what they were obligated to do, but it took three or four months to get the parts.
Overall Rating
:
8
I have played mostly acoustic guitars, but I've also played a Guild X-50 (early semi-hollow guitar) and a Blade solid body guitar. Did this guitar sound better? No, but I cost less than 1/5 or what either of those cost. I think it is probably better than anything in its price range (and there isn't much) but I would be ashamed if it didn't sound and look better than a Squire (it should be able to kill a Squire). If I lost or it got stolen, I probably wouldn't get another because I am repairing an Alvarez Dana Scoop which I think will eat it for lunch. However, if I had 100 buck for a new guitar, this would be the one I'd get.
Bottom line: for a cheap guitar, this one is unbeatable.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $93
Submitted 06/24/2004
at 07:02am
by Eric Wherley
Email: triathlete107 at aol<dot>com
Features
:
7
This guiutar looks like it was made somwhere in Asia. It has 21 frets and a 20 radius neck. The pickups are s/s/s. The body is made of three pieces of basswood glued together. The guitar comes unfinished. It is a strat lookalike. Cheap tuners! This kit includes bad cable, cheap strings, and a whammy bar.
Sound
:
8
To me this guitar sounds great. I have not gotten a chance to play extensively on an am, but it has a good sound. The cable is useless. It buzzes a lot.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
6
The person who made this guitar did everything a little bit off. There were no holes for the string claw which I had to drill myself. You setup the action, intonation, and pickup height. The instructions included are very vague. Us a guitar repair manualo for good instructions. The wood had a lot of flaws which they tried to cover up with spackle. I used a natural finish and there is one spot of spackle that stands out. The tuners do not stay in tune well
Reliability/Durability
:
8
This guitar seems like it will last. I don't gig so I don' t know if I would gig without a backup.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I am my own customer service. Go to your local music store if you have any problems.
Overall Rating
:
9
This is my first electric guitar. I will add a humbucker in the future and hope to change the tuners soon. The instructions were too vague and if you do not have any woodworking expertise I would recommend against this guitar. Other than that it is great. It exceeded my expectations.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $90
Submitted 05/26/2004
at 06:25pm
by Casey
Email: dlaxer6<at>yahoo dot com
Features
:
7
21 jumbo frets, random radius (not stock fender thats for sure), SSS pickup config, 4 peice body.. yeah i said 4, cut ur own headstock, crappy tuners.
Sound
:
9
The pickups were suprisingly good, not like a squier, a step up. medium lows, high mids, medium highs.
They didnt really work for me i needed a high output lead pickup, so i replaced the bridge pickup with an EMG-81, its awsome. Im using it with a '73 Marshall 100w Superlead, so quite a few guitar sound pretty good on it. The guitar at first was pretty noisey, but then again it had no sheilding whatsoever. Unpluged, the guitar sounded pretty good, the four peices were tightly glued so not that much sustain was lost.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
8
The guitar was set up nicely, well wait, i set it up, cause it was in a kit so yeah. the only question applicable is the routeing and screw holes. nicely routed, H-S-S route, so its not just the tone loosing pool route. all the hardware seemed a little cheap, especially the tuners, but what do you expect for $90?
Reliability/Durability
:
9
I would totally say this guitar is able to play live, because i built it, i feel more confident and less synical about it. The hardware seems cheap, but i trust it, the tuners are.. yeah awful, i took the stock ones off my bc rich and its fine. i would gig without a backup with this, but thats cause i hate bringing to much stuff to gigs: stack, guitars, its too much to manage. but i would trust it alone.
Customer Support
:
10
I e-mailed Saga asking about the truss rod, that was the one peice i didnt trust and wouldnt you know it, the thing came unscrewed, they replied very quickly with very helpful information, the problem was easily fixable and they instructed me.
Overall Rating
:
9
i played guitar for a few years now. i own a Jackson dinky, and a BC Rich jr. V, '73 marshall 100w superlead, '73 1960b cab, some disto pedals..
if it was stolen i would prob get another, unless some great deal came out on a gibson LP
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: Got as a Christmas Present
Submitted 05/23/2004
at 11:11am
by The Guitarist Of Last Chance
Email: ethersceam at nsm<dot>com
Features
:
7
Has all the standard Strat features,21 frets 3 single coils yadda yadda blah blah. Also comes with a very bad cord and strings. @ out of 3 pickups sound great,the bridge pick up is very very hot and the middle has a nice fat tone. The neck pick up was very indistinct i.e. the swimming thru molasses sound. I replaced it with a cheap Duncan Performer Scorcher single coil sized humbucker which helped incredibly. My only real complaint is the tuners,screwing them into the headstock is a nightmare,very bad metal screws and my particular headstock had a knot in the way of one,not fun at all. Other than that i going to get the nut filed down because with 10 thru 60s it is nearly impossible to play on the first fret.
Sound
:
7
I play Sabbath style metal and pschedelic sounding hard rock. I play a Les Paul and will never play this on stage. I got this as a christmas present and it fills the lets-find-out-what-happens-when-i-do-this guitar. As previously stated 2 of 3 pickups were good. It is a little noisy but thats cheap single coils for you. I have played this thu a Crate GX-212 and it sound ok except for the dual distortion channel.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
7
Since you have to set it up yourself i cant really say anything bad about setup,but i wish that the nut was a bit better. The body was in nice shape and one piece. I personally painted it metallic blue but the wood was nice enough that i could have just sealed it.
Reliability/Durability
:
7
I think that it would hold up to live playing,but i wouldnt use it as a main guitar if i were you. Hardware seems goiod for a 100 dollar guitar,strap buttons are holding.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Never even knew that the company had a website before reading it on this forum.
Overall Rating
:
7
If it was stolen i would care but i would probably buy their new Les Paul kit. Its basically on the same plane as a Squire strat,only it requires more work. I think it is perfect for a tinkerer.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $74.00
Submitted 05/08/2004
at 03:36pm
by Ron
Features
:
4
Don't know where this thing was made, probably China. Solid basswood top, two pickups, strat style. Came with a cheap cord.
Sound
:
4
Not the greatest pickups but O.K. Used with a Crate amp, good strat variety, not as good as the real deal but what do you want for 75 bucks?
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
1
O.K. I had a lot of trouble with this thing, the screw holes for the bridge didn't line up and needed to be re-drilled. The tiny screws for the tuners stripped and broke and had to be drilled out and replaced. The tiny hex screws in the tune-omatic bridge stripped out when trying to adjust the intonation.If you like freaking gargantuan frets you will love the neck, I sanded the frets down to a usable height. Tuners are CHEAP and don't stay in tune.
Reliability/Durability
:
4
After a lot of modifications I like this little bugger, it kind of grows on you after you have spent a hundred hours jacking with it to get it servicible. It is a build it yourself guitar but you can't really expect to just screw it together and go. It will be as good as you make it. For a giiging guitar you will want to replace pickups and tuners.
Customer Support
:
1
Was bought at ebay auction from online guitar. After I whined to them about the broken screws and whatnot I got no response. I left neutral feedback for them and they promised replacement parts if I would withdraw my neutral feedback. No replacement parts were sent.
Overall Rating
:
4
I've been playing for almost 40 years, owned Fenders, Gibsons, Taylors, Hofners, Epiphones etc. Do all my own setup work. If you want a $74.00 guitar that you can set up the way you like and won't have an aneurism if it gets a scratch in it, this is the one! It has a good neck, acceptable sound, if it were stolen or lost " I would be worried Lord, but I won't be worried long."
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $150
Submitted 04/30/2004
at 07:04pm
by matt munson
Features
:
3
So I knew I wasn't buying a PRS or Gibson LP Double-cut, but damn, this thing isn't worth the $150 I paid. I mainly purchased it for the experience of building my own guitar before I dropped some real $ on a Warmoth (I figured I could afford to screw up now rather than spending $1000 and screwing up on a REAL kit). I spent a week painting it- I used automotive finishes from Advance Auto parts and was quite pleased with the results. Tonight I sat down to put it together, and nothing fit correctly. None of the holes line up, and the parts are pure, unadulterated crap. I began installing the neck with the screws provided, hand tightening with a Phillips head, and two of the four broke off and are now embedded in the neck. Looks like I will have to grind them down with a dremel and glue the neck in (which would probably give it better sound anyway).
Sound
:
No Opinion
Can't comment on this- I can't finish the damn thing because the screws broke off in the neck.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
1
None of the pre-drilled holes line up. I did the paint job on it so they don't get any credit for this. The so-called "flame top" is so thin you can't sand it. They lacquered it at the factory, so if you are thinking (like I was) that you can dye it and make it look like a PRS, don't waste your time or your money.
Reliability/Durability
:
1
No. No. No. No. No. No. (to the questions below)
Will this guitar withstand live playing?
Does the hardware seem like it will last?
Is the finish good enough to last, or does it seem thin and easy to wear off
with lots of playing?
Are the strap buttons solid?
Can you depend on it?Would you use it on a gig without a backup?
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
No warranty. Buy at your own risk. Think of it like you are getting a 1986 Yugo.
Overall Rating
:
2
I have played for almost 20 years. I don't ask questions. If lost or stolen I would rejoice and buy something else. I like my paint job, I hate the junk parts. I compared it to a PRS Dragon II- no- more like my first guitar from Service Merchandise in 1983- a Harmony somewhat-like-a-strat-knockoff.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $74
Submitted 04/06/2004
at 01:40pm
by R. Lyons
Features
:
8
The kit is a strat-in-a-box. The pickguard is pre-wired, and the connections all have plugs, though i soldered them anyways. The tuners are very poor; all 6 of mine seem to work differently. Definitely get some replacements. The neck and body of this kit make the entire package more than worth the price. The pickups are meh. They aren't too bad, but they aren't great either.
Sound
:
9
The sound really depends on how well you set it up during construction. When I first assembled it, I'd have only rated it at about 4. Soldering the connections instead of using the little plugs, polishing the frets, and getting some decent strings have made a world of difference. I play mostly rhythm from several genres, and I'm always able to get the sound (or close enough) I'm looking for. The pickups aren't especially noisy, and I tend to favor the humbucking positions, which sound great.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
5
The finish is really dependent on how much effort you put into it. I put a sparkly kelly green finish on mine, and it looks great.
I had problems with buzzing on the D-string, and the only way I could get rid of it was to place a shim under the neck.
Setting the intonation on this thing was hellacious. Initially there wasn't enough travel on the bridge for the low E-string, so it was almost impossible to get this thing to play in tune. Since I never use the tremolo bar on this thing, I blocked the bridge, and that seemed to help since it increased the string length a bit. It also stays in tune much better now.
The action can be set extremely low on this strat without buzzing.
Reliability/Durability
:
No Opinion
Durability is really dependent on how you put it together and finish it. I have about 36 coats of clear-coat on mine, so it's just about bullet-proof. I'd definitely recommend soldering the connections instead of relying on the included plugs. I don't really gig, but I'd never use any guitar in a live situation without some kind of a backup.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I have no idea how to contact the company that made the kit, nor have I had a reason to. I'm my own tech support.
Overall Rating
:
10
I've been playing for about 6 years. I use this guitar with a Behringer Blue Devil amp. I also own a Fender DG-3 acoustic. I've had other instruments, but they've all fallen victim to broke-college-student syndrome.
Don't bother buying this kit if you just want a plug-and-play experience. You won't get instant gratification.
I bought this for the expereince of finishing, assembling, and adjusting a guitar from a pile of parts. It exceeded my expectations, and therefore gets a 10 overall. I basically wanted an inexpensive way to practice, and this fit perfectly.
This kit would also be a great idea for anybody who wants a "Frankenstein" that they can experiment with.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $104
Submitted 03/12/2004
at 07:10am
by Roger
Email: ram16821<at>hotmail dot com
Features
:
7
If you really want to end up with a good quality instrument, the first thing to do when building a Saga strat kit is 1) throw away certain components in order to 2) maximize the benefits of the other components. For instance, the tremolo bar is soft metal and bends easily -- toss it and replace. Also, the pickups are weak -- I personally swapped them out for a single EMG 81 humbucker in the bridge position. This pickup is as much as the whole kit, but it comes with all its own electronics, and is the best sounding (and quietest) pickup I've ever used. The springs are just crazy-tight and are too big for the tremolo system -- toss them as well and purchase the smaller strat-style springs available at most music stores. Now you're ready to address the body...
Sound
:
10
The body is a good quality basswood carefully routed and sealed, and the neck is one-piece maple with a rosewood fingerboard -- also well done. These two pieces alone are what make the kit worth every cent, and then some. The body and neck may throw off younger players who have become accustomed to very wide yet slim necks, and skinny tapered bodies. Saga builds their Strat kits very close to the dimensions of the pre-CBS Stratocaster, which means the body horns are plump, the neck is thicker than many newer guitars,and the headstock has a lot of wood. This is all a very good thing, being that more wood means more tone and better sustain. Good strings like lots of wood.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
9
The tuning machines are so bad that you shouldn't even take them out of the plastic bag. Just go buy some Gotohs or Grovers -- trust me. Otherwise, most everything else fits together well, and if you choose to keep the original pickup/pickguard config, minus paints job you'll be playing in a couple hours. The neck action, however, is well done. My neck required no fret dressing or nut filing at all. Yea, I couldn't believe it either.
Reliability/Durability
:
9
This guitar is as tough as any Fender Strat. But guitars in general aren't built to be tough, they're built to be tone-full instruments. If you drop any guitar, it's going to be catastrophic.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
NA
Overall Rating
:
9
Excellent, but as I said, you're going to need better pickups and electronics, tuning machines and tremolo bar with springs. You're really buying the kit for the neck and body, which are excellent and comparable to any midpriced parts.
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: one sheep and a chicken ((illegal))
Submitted 01/28/2004
at 01:08pm
by Hermule Grosse (look me up on google) from a firestation in the west midlands.
Features
:
10
Ahh... The wonderfully delicate art of guitar building...
the usuall strat features (if you are not so sure what these are, consult a local guitar dealers). Usuall tuning stability with that classic strat bridge. Good tuners. Unlike some wankers, I don't get insomnia if I don't instantly replace all functioning parts with ones made in the USA (mexico ya fools).
The neck is a fat flat stratocaster affair, which is ideal for slow string crossing and lewd string bends.
Sound
:
10
It sounds just like a fender to my heathen ears. I have allready reviewed another guitar for you (Aria STG400 if you are despirate) which sounded nothing like as good as this one. Oh, I did pay #50 to get the dear old thing set up, which might have made a difference!
Rich fruity sound with distinct summer marshy overtones, and winter fires in the background. Hear the Elderflowers ready for the picking, and sense the little water-creatures as they scurry around the riverbank at dusk.
Oh hell...
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
7
I got it set up so that the tremolo leans forward at 45 degrees. When a string breaks... NYAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGGG!
I made this guitar a little under a month ago, and it has allready had a refinish. My other electric guitar a vintage Vs6CG (yes reviewed also, and yes that is how you spell crackly)can survive having my all american heeman slide dropped on it, whilst my poor old strat can't survive the impact of the occasional atom!
Reliability/Durability
:
9
Apart from the string breakages, this is sound!
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I live in britain where SAGA is a magasine for old biffers in the last years of their cake baking lives...
Overall Rating
:
10
Try this DIY guitar for a laugh!
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $129.00
Submitted 01/09/2004
at 09:03am
by Dave K.
Features
:
10
My wife bought me a Saga ST-10 kit in 1980 with her first paycheck. She's a keeper! Back then there was no Harmony-Central mainly because Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet!
Anyway, this was the bottom of the line, cheapest Strat kit there was. Plywood body, Maple neck. This guitar came with a Fender-esque wang bar assembly. With a little adjustment, I can go down an octave and mostly come back up in tune, except for the G string. I think it gets hung up at the nut.
I give it a "10" for features, because it's a copy of an original. Redundant enough?
Sound
:
10
cheapy pickups with pole pieces that were little magnets glued onto the top of the pickups. Still, it sounded "Stratty". Stratish? Like a '70s Strat I had and hated. If only I still had that thing....
I've since changed the pickups and now have two Gibson P-90s in the neck and middle position and a Gibson P-100 in the bridge position. Sounds like a fat stratocaster!
Since I did the pickups thing, I give it a 10 for sound. Otherwise, give it a 7 or 8 because the original pickups sounded too thin.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:
9
This was a kit, so the guy who set it up back in 1980 did a great job!The screw holes were all in the right places, except for maybe a couple. C'mon folks, this was a long time ago! Who remembers these things?
I liked the wood feel of the neck so I rubbed in coat after coat of raw Linseed Oil on it with an occasional touch every year or so. Now it looks satiny and has a "well-played" wood feel to it. I also put my wife's name in a Fender-style script on the headstock, because she's so nice!
My cousin played all over the West Coast and has a 1958 Stratocaster he bought new and he says this guitar feels just like his. Now that's a compliment!
Since the body is plywood, I painted it a nice robin's egg blue. It has mellowed over the years to an almost seafoam green. Great color!
Seriously, outside of an occasional tweak on the neck, this thing's been fine for 23 1/2 years!
I give the finish a 9 because I didn't do a very good job on it. My bad!
Reliability/Durability
:
10
This is the main reason I'm taking the time to type this critique. I've had this guitar for 23, almost 24 years now. It's held up great!
I'm a bass player these days but I sometimes bring my "Verna" Sagacaster along in case our guitarer breaks a string.
Yeah, a rock solid and reliable performer.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Never had a problem to need customer support. But thanks for asking!
Overall Rating
:
10
I own 16 or 17 guitars and basses, including a "real" Fender Stratocaster and a Gibson Lucille. I play my "Verna" guitar about 1/3 the time and the remainder of them the rest of the time.
Folks, this is a great guitar and you'll have a hard time getting better price/performance. I don't know how their kits are these days, but I just ordered one (on the internet!) and maybe I'll let you know!
Product: Saga ST-10 Kit
Price Paid: US $119.00 (including shipping)
Submitted 11/28/2003
at 06:31pm
by Anonymous
Features
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