Product: Schecter TSH-12 Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 10/26/2006
at 03:27am
by anambrose
Features
:10
Metallic Blue Flake kind of an Ultramarine/Black fleck on Top Back and Headstock with a gloss White on the sides and the neck and a White single ply pickguard. It's supposed to look like an old Danolectro double cutaway but this body is chambered mahogany. Paint is a poly finish. It has the Diamond hardtail 12 string bridge the main 6 strings thru the body and the octaves are top loaded. Height,radius, and intonation of saddles are adjustable. The tuners are Grover Mini's non locking. The painted maple neck is secured with 4 bolts and has an adjustable truss rod. The pickups are Duncan Designed Dual Lipsticks the pu's can be spit using a 5 way rotary switch and they can be adjusted for height like the old dano's by turning screws on the back of the guitar. Single Volume and Tone control black Speed knobs. Made in South Korea. 22 medium jumbo frets no binding but has side dots and mop position markers. Neck scale 25,1/2" width at nut is 1,7/8"
Sound
:9
The lipsticks can be split and the center tap sounds like the humbuckers are wired out of
phase and they use alnico magnets which have a good tone. The bridge settings can get the jangle.I play amplified folk/blues/country/americana/roots mainly originals but this guitar could cover byrds,petty etc. The longer neck scale gives the strings a good snap I play it thru 2 of those wacky Epiphone Valve Juniors or two Dr Z Carmen Ghia's I also have Fenders and one Vox/Marshall. I run the guitar thru an OCD, Carl Martin Compressor, a TC Chorus bypassed just to route to stereo into a DeLayla which feeds the two heads. With the OCD pedal it can get some real good distorted slide tones.If you split the pickups you'll get some RF. I took the pickguard off to peel off the plastic and found that there's nickel shielding paint in the pu and control cavity and the wiring looked OK. 500kOhm pots. The neck pu can give you almost an acoustic tone but the detail gets lost as soon as you roll down the volume in any pu position so I'd use it full out and use a volume pedal. I use a flatpick and fingerpick with bare fingers and also play slide and this guitar plays and sounds good either way. You can probably cop Stairway to Freebird thru a Marshall Stack.
With Voxes AC/30TB or AC15's you might even get some Beatles.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:10
It's set up here in US and it came right from California within a week of the order. The
strings were fresh and the action was passable intonation was close. For under $5bills it
was better setup than I've seen out of gibson guitars for $5K. The neck needed a tweak and after adjusting it's held it's relief with .09's tuned to Concert Pitch. The Pickguard is not bakelite but vinyl or abs and I can see over time it will warp being a single ply.The frets are well finished the ends rounded the rosewood board nice and dark not too grainy the nut is spot on not sharp cornered and it's a slick black delrin type. The neck fits tight in the pocket and has a volute for added strength and has a semi slim taper feel. I like baseball bat necks like the early 90's Jeff Beck Strats or RI No-Casters but this neck's extra width seems to balance it ok. It feels a tad neck heavy at first but balances fine sitting or strapped on. Thats from the weight of the 12 mini grovers.
Reliability/Durability
:9
The hardware if bought separate would be more than the cost of the entire guitar new and is
very solid. I've not ever used a Diamond 12 chrome bridge so we'll see how good the plating
is. The strap buttons are a little larger than what you'd find stock on a fender/gibson and are
not locking but feel substantial. Being a poly finish that looks well cured I expect it will last
unless beaten up. I will be using it on gigs w/o backup as this is the only 12 string I own.I may have other guitars along (mainly Tele's) but this is it. I guess if I El Kabong a heckler the
chambered mahogany body might crack but not from a stand drop. Then I'd rebuild it using the very good hardware.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
I've emailed them from time to time with guitar geek questions and they usually respond and as I have'nt had one of their instruments before I don't know about service. They said as long
as I keep the original receipt with the serial # on it it's LTD Lifetime Warrantee to the
original owner.
Overall Rating
:9
I got a great price as the dealer was being offered factory closeout deal and I happened to be at the counter and asked if the 12 string was on the list. I've been playing guitar since 1968
and have owned several guitars both acoustic and electric. This is replacing a '65 electric XII I
would have to spend way too much money to replace and be paranoid taking it anywhere but
a secure studio. I would replace it if stolen. Only Ric that has a wide enough neck for me
to play is a 660/12 and last I heard it was a year and a half wait and more than three times
what I paid for this. I might check out Eastwood's Nashville 12 but that was also more money
than this. I like the dual lipstick pu's the sound the feel and light weight I'm going to guess it's between 7 and 8 lbs.My only gripe is the pu's lose the high's when you roll off the volume
but better pots/caps can take care of that.
Product: Schecter TSH-12 Price Paid: US $450 used
Submitted 07/17/2004
at 06:41pm
by Aaron Seidman
Email: none
Features
:10
I purchased this guitar about 7 months ago and I am unsure ofwhen it was made but I would say sometime in the late 90s. This guitar has maple neck with rosewood fingerboard, the neck has a slimmer profile than the rickenbacker 360, 22 medium frets, 25 1/2 scale, 1.45"nut width, 2.15" bridge width, 12 mini grover tuners, duncan design humbucker in the bridge and mini humbucker in the neck, 3-way pickup selector, one volume two tone controls and coil tap switch in the tone pot, semi-hollow mahogany body with a flat top, double cutaway, tune-o-matic bridge with stopbar tailpiece, cats eye style f-hole in the top of the body like a rickenbacker, mine is a gloss black finish (this guitar is also sold with a quilted maple top which is finish in a honey sunburst with gold hardware, the gloss black comes with chrome hardware) which looks great with the creme pearlized pickguard that is around the neck pickup and the creme colored body, neck, and headstock binding. The guitar is strung so that the octave string is struck first, then the bass string, this is like any acoustic 12 string but not like a rickenbacker where the bass string is struck first on the downstroke.
Sound
:9
i play a lot of different styles, from straight up rock to softer clean styles and this was my first 12 string which i basically started playing out of curiosity, and now it is my favorite electric for all those uses. My current rig is a mesa/boogie mark 3 which feeds a 1-12" mesa cabinet that has a celestion blackshadow speaker. I have a marshall compressor and a boss super chorus pedal but i havent really been using them much. For clean sounds nothing beats the coil split neck pickup, but the bridge pickup sounds a little to quacky on clean for my tastes, but when the amp is overdriven, the bridge pickup produces some good harmonic over tones and with both pickups on it softens the bridge pickups bite, but with the neck pickup only, the guitar tends to feedback uncontrollably at high gain settings.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:9
The action on this guitar is quite low, which facilitates fast lead riffs and quick chord changes. Since i purchased mine used the action may have been professionally set up so i dont know what the factory setup is like. The back of the neck had some minor dings and was ok but not the smoothest, but i used some 0000 grade steel wool to smooth the back of the neck and now it feels as good as my dads music man sihouette special. I have heard complaints about the neck being too narrow to fret the strings accurately, but i have relatively long and narrow fingers so it fits me just fine.
Reliability/Durability
:8
I have used this guitar in 3 gigs and not had a problem, but never go without a backup. The hardware seems to be very solid for the most part but the selector switch seems to need tightening every now and then. One of the first things i did was to purchase dunlop strap locks so i would not have to worry about losing the guitar while standing, i would feel very bad if i dropped it.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
i have never had to contact them
Overall Rating
:10
I have been playing for about 14 months now and my two favorite guitars are this schecter and my beloved takamine john jorgensen signature 12 string acoustic/electric. If it were stolen, i would definetly buy another one and beat the guy who stole it with my randall rg-80 head since that thing is a tank. The thing i probably like the most about it is that if the octave strings and one of the unison strings are tune about 4 cents sharper than the bass and other unison string, a kind of shimmering half-chorus rings through in both clean and overdrive tones. I would recommend this to anyone who doesn't have big hands since the neck would be too narrow.
Product: Schecter TSH-12 Price Paid: US $300
Submitted 12/24/2003
at 04:59pm
by sam
Features
:10
Same as the others. Quite the unique 12-string electric. Rare and beautiful.
Sound
:8
The stock pickups are a little darker that I'd like them to be and I would have changed them if I had kept the guitar long enough. It took me a while to figure out that there was a coil splitter on the tone knob (it doesn't stand out as it does on my Ibanez). Split, the pickups sound much better but get a bit noisy and you lose output. Strangely enough, this guitar sounded best playing distorted mid-tempo punk (Guttermouth, NOFX, etc). The octave strings add a nice dimension to power chord riffing which translated really well on some tracks I used this guitar for.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:3
This was the dealbreaker for me and the reason I had to let the guitar go. You can't put 12 strings on a regular width electric neck and expect everything to work out fine. It was nearly impossible to fret open chords like Am and F without great difficulty - not due to string height or tension but because the strings were so close together. Also, since the bridge is a standard tune-o-matic cut for a 12-string, it is impossible to properly intonate the octave strings in relation to each other. Play this guitar above the seventh fret and things start to get sloppy. So here was my dilema: To get the guitar where I wanted it I'd have to A) replace the pickups, B) Have a custom nut cut for the guitar, spreading the strings farther apart (there are a few millimeters of unused space on either side of the E strings)and bringing the octave pairs closer together, and C) replace the bridge saddles with ones which would allow me to intonate the octave strings independantly. Faced with that daunting and expensive challenge I chose to trade the guitar in with another unloved guitar for a Schecter C1+. Maybe someday if I have the money I'll have Schecter build me one with the fixes I mentioned above. Until then I have my C1+ to baby.
Reliability/Durability
:7
After 6 months the guitar developed finish cracks around the neck joint (not uncommon for bolt-on's but worrysome nonetheless). It broke the G-String Octave string all the time but it's an .008 so it wasn't totally unexpected - just bring a spare or two if you take it to a gig. Everything else on this guitar was rock solid.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Haven't dealt with them. I should write them and tell them of my experience whith the TSH-12. It would be great to see some improvements made to it in future versions. I'd consider owning one again if the playability problems were resolved.
Overall Rating
:5
I've been playing for fourteen years and own far too much musical gear for my own good. Can't say it'll ever get lost or stolen as it's no longer in my posession. I was at Guitar Center a week after I traded it in and it had already been sold. I hope it found a good home.
Product: Schecter TSH-12 Price Paid: US $305 used
Submitted 12/18/2003
at 10:11pm
by guitarman
Features
:9
Bought it used so no idea what year. Would say sometime in the mid 90's? Mahogany body chambered, like a Harmony h-47-48 or a guild M75 with flame maple cap, 'Duncan Designed' dual humbuckers, tune-o-matic bridge and stop tailpiece.
The finish on the body is high-gloss, clear on the mahogany and antique orange on the maple cap. There is cream colored edge binding on the top, where the maple cap attaches to the mahogany. The finish was flawless. A small peril pickguard surrounds the neck pickup, but not the bridge pickup. The bolt-on maple neck is a two-piece, joining to the large angled headstock at the 2nd fret. There are 22 medium-jumbo frets with binding, 25.5" scale. Access to all frets is pretty good since the body is an asymetic double-cutaway. The frets were nicely finished and I didn't find any high or low spots on the entire finger board, which seems to be rosewood. The diamond-shaped inlays are a nice touch. The satin neck is narrow for a 12-string and that's the only neg. thing about this guitar, the string width is 1.45" at the nut and 2.15" at the bridge. The tuners are Grover. It has 3 knobs and a 3 way switch. The tone knob acts like a splitter and gives it a completly different sound.
Sound
:10
I own over 40 guitars and I'm a buyer for music stores so I know what most of the guitars sound like out there. I own a Rickenbacker 360 12 string and always thought it sounded a little thin and was hard to play with the narrow neck. I bought this guitar just to see what it was all about and was blown away by the sound. Full almost mystic sounding and with the splitter awesome! The other review stated it didn't "cherp" or something to that effect. I'm glad it doesn't. I'm getting tired of all humbucker guitars sounding like country twang. It's gettin old. This one sounds full and rich. I sold my Rick after playing this one. Again, The narrow neck is just like the rick and takes some gettin used to but the sound makes it worth while.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:10
I bought this on Ebay and liked the pictures. It looked like a well made guitar and you don't find semi hollowbody 12 strings every day. When it arrived, it looked better than the pictures and looks as good as any of my high $$$ guitars. It's a little bit smaller than I thought it would be but it is flawless and looks like a million bucks. You can't find a nicer guitar under $3000 that is built like this one. Action is low and plays fine although I had to have my Luther set it up to be that way.
Reliability/Durability
:10
I never owned or knew anyone who owned this make of guitar. After playing it everyday I would say it is solid and would stand up to giging. I have had no problems with it and it fell a couple of times from the amp to the floor and no dents or breaks.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Never had to call
Overall Rating
:10
As I said, I'm a buyer for music stores and I have suggested they look into this manufactor because this is one awesome guitar. I have a collection of Harmonys, Gibsons and all kinds of strange mutts that I have collected over a period of 48 years. Mt favorite guitar is a Harmony H-48 1959 and my favorite amp is a Tryanor tube amp. I have over 40 guitars in my collection and this is on the top of my list as which to play tonight. It does everything the Rick does and more at a fraction of the cost. If you want a 12 string and see one of these, buy it! If it were stolen I'd hunt the as*hole down and beat him to death with a Dean guitar. (at least their worth something)......
Product: Schecter TSH-12 Price Paid: US $450
Submitted 02/18/2001
at 05:40pm
by Mark Burnham
Email: mark dot g dot burnham<at>kp dot org
Features
:8
The TSH-12 is the 12-string version of Schecter's Diamond Series TSH model. Many of its features are Les Paul-like: Mahogany body (chambered, more on that later) with flame maple cap, 'Duncan Designed' dual humbuckers, tune-o-matic bridge and stop tailpiece.
The finish on the body is high-gloss, clear on the mahogany and antique orange on the maple cap. There is cream colored edge binding on the top, where the maple cap attaches to the mahogany. The finish was flawless. A small mother-of-toilet-seat pickguard surrounds the
neck pickup, but not the bridge pickup. The bolt-on maple neck is a two-piece, joining to the large angled headstock at the 2nd fret.
There are 22 medium-jumbo frets with binding, 25.5" scale. Access to all frets is pretty good since the body is an asymetic double-cutaway. The frets were nicely finished and I didn't find any high or low spots on the entire finger board, which seems to be rosewood. The diamond-shaped inlays are a nice touch. The satin neck is a bit narrow for a 12-string, the string width is 1.45" at the nut and 2.15" at the bridge. The tuners are Grover
Sound
:8
I have played this guitar through a Fender Deluxe, a Marshall DSL100, a Rickenbacker TR7, and a POD. The humbuckers are very quiet, of course, but not very 'chimey'. As mentioned earlier, the tone pot has a pull-up coil splitter. Great idea. The single coil sound of the bridge pickup has all the complex ringing overtones that are the reason I got a 12-string electric in the first place. The chambered semi-solid body adds midrange giving this guitar a pleasant honk. For laughs I cranked up the Marshall, and some pretty interesting screams came out. I won't be doing that much. But the clean Marshall sounds were excellent as were the Fender. A number of POD setting also sounds pretty good. For a Byrds/Petty sound on a budget, this is the ticket.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:7
As mentioned earlier, the finish was flawless. The setup needed tweaking. Intonation was off, even on the unison pairs. On the octaves it is a compromise since there are only six saddles. By tinkering with string guages I was able to get it pretty darn close.
There was just a touch of relief, and I left it alone. The action was high, 6/64 - 8/64. Nobody expects to shred on a 12-tring, but I took it down a bit anyway. No buzzing. The pots all needed a little tighening (or maybe I just needed an excuse to use my special Stew-Mac wrenches).
Reliability/Durability
:7
I just got this guy brand new, so I can't say how it will wear. It appears to be well built. I have had a Schecter 7-string for a few years without any problems, so I'm hopeful about this one. Frankly, I baby my guitars, so I don't expect it to get thrown around. This is a specialty guitar, not something I would use for every song, so I would never gig with only this guitar. I mostly plan to use it for recording.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
No idea.
Overall Rating
:8
I've been playing for more than 30 years now (can that be?). In addition to this guitar, I have five Fender Strats (including an SRV, a 'Roland GR30 Ready', and several old ones), a Gibson Les Paul, a Fender Tele, an Ibanez AS80, Ibanez and Schecter 7-strings, as well as several basses and several accoustics. I do a lot of recording and I'm always looking for new tonal colors. This guitar covers a specific niche for me. My plan was 'Byrds on a budget' and so far it seems to be working out.