Product: Simon & Patrick S6 Small Bodied 'Folk' Cedar Price Paid: canadian 310
Submitted 08/22/2009
at 12:57pm
by levi
Features
:8
S&P Woodland Cedar folk:
-Made in Quebec
-Neck connects at 14 fret
-Solid Cedar Top
-Red Cherry Sides+Back
-Silver Leaf Male Neck
-Folk Sized
-Semi-Gloss Finish
Over-all a very solid and 'minimalistic' guitar... but the sound is what matters.... and it sounds AMAZING!
Sound
:10
I play Classic Rock, Prog Rock, Fingerstyle and it suits them all! The cedar top gives it a soft/warm sounds... which can almsot sound 'muffled'. So, if you're looking for a bright guitar... this isn't the way to go! Go for Spruce in that case! It has a very full, and balanced sound! It has powerful bass, with punchy highs! The cedar tops, with cherry sides and back gives it a very good, stable, sound!
Action, Fit, & Finish
:8
It came set-up pretty well... but I had one free setup, so I used it! The action is perfect, pretty low overall... which is good for me... but not everyone!
Reliability/Durability
:9
This guitar is structurally sturdy, but with its semi-gloss finish it can nick easy! But scratches and dents never bother me anyways! I've been playing the crap outta this guitar, and it's help up amazing! If you're a big 'strummer' than I recommend getting a pick-guard on there... cause if you don't there won't be much of a finish left after too long! But it's great for fingerstyle, and calm strumming!
Customer Support
:No Opinion
No experience with this yet!
Overall Rating
:10
The absolute best value you can find! It a consumer price, but with very high-end quality. It plays and sounds like a guitar easily two or three times it's price! I play some higher end martins and taylors... what cost upwards of $1000, and the difference in quality was minimal! Amazing value...
Product: Simon & Patrick S6 Small Bodied 'Folk' Cedar Price Paid: 300 (# GB pounds)
Submitted 04/04/2006
at 04:56am
by Graham
Email: berenbaby at aol<dot>com
Features
:8
This is a folk, steel strung acoustic. By folk they mean shaped like a classical guitar, but structured as a steel string. It's a 21 fretter, joining neck to body at the 14th fret.
The woods are solid cedar top, with laminated, wild cherry, back and sides. These work well together sonically and aethetically. They call the finish satin but in reality it is matt.
It has a mahogany neck, which has a 24.85 inch scale, slim and comfortable, with rosewood fretboard and bridge. All is plain and functional, just like the un-named machineheads.
Sound
:8
I like to pick (finger and flat) as well as strum, to folk, rock and progressive stuff in between.
This guitar has a very straigtforward, loud, ringing tone. Impressive, if lacking in subtlety.
It has it's own sweet tone that is very good, especially at the price.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:8
Good quality finishing, nothing sloppy here. The thin matt finish does look dry but does seem to facilitate a very resonant instrument. I've always thought that thick, gloss finishes must retard the top's vibrations. Still. I'd have preferred the satin finish, as described.
The fretting is accurate and smooth.
Reliability/Durability
:8
The thin finish won't help protect from marks much, so I expect the instrument to gain some "character" as the years go by. But structurally it is very sound, resonant and strong.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Well set up from shop, no other interaction though.
Overall Rating
:8
I,ve been playing 30+ years. I presently have 8 acoustics. This my first S & P and my first "folk" shaped acoustic. I really like the woods and the overall tone. It is a plain and dry looking guitar but it does have it's own chracter in looks and sound.
The S & P is not my best sounding, looking or value guitar but it it different from the rest and stands out, in it's own, vibrant way. It's well worth owning and I'd miss it, if someone had it away.
Yes I'd get another.
Product: Simon & Patrick S6 Small Bodied 'Folk' Cedar Price Paid: #300 (pounds)
Submitted 03/31/2006
at 10:02am
by Graham
Email: berenbaby<at>aol dot com
Features
:8
This is a Canadian made guitar, probably 2005. 21 frets, with the neck joining the body at the 14th. Solid cedar top, with laminated, wild cherry back and sides. Mahogany neck, rosewood fretboard and bridge.
They say the finish is satin, whereas it is patently matt. The body of this acoustic is similarly shaped to a classical guitar. This gives rise to the "folk" title. Old folkies used to string up their old classical guitars with steel strings, sometimes with disasterous results to the neck. Fotunately this baby is all steel strung guitar.
No idea what make the tuners are, but they look and work fine. The scale is 24.84 inches. They say it's a wood rosette around the soundhole, it's hard to tell what it is. It looks OK, nothing spectacular but nothing hideous either. The body is bound with what looks like, dark wood.
Sound
:9
For a fairly small bodied guitar, this S&P sings out loud, with a fullish, ringing sound. Sweet and really quite powerful, tone is the selling point of this guitar. It really excels with picking, strumming and single note lines. It hard to credit how well it performs. It has a real resonance that you can feel in your fingers and your ears.
The sound is fairly full on and may not suit really delicate players. But for the vast majority it will really impress.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:9
This cedar topped gem came very well set up. Easy action, with no buzzes, even under heavy playing. It is extremely tidy and beautifully put together.
Personally, I'd have preferred the satin finish advertised. The all matt can look a little dry. The woods all look and match very well though. Cedar and cherry, lovely.
Reliability/Durability
:8
This is a no frills, solid, well crafted acoustic guitar. They have given the instrument a thin finish, to allow the wood the vibrate to it's best. And boy does that work. However it may mark up, with use. But some may call that character.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
No experince with S & P.
Overall Rating
:8
I own 8 acoustics and have beeen playing over 30 years. This is another low priced guitar that excels well beyond it's price tag. It isn't the best in my collection, nor the best value. It isn't the best looking or the most versatile.
Yet is has it's own sound that rings out more than virtually any other guitar I have played. Including many that cost a vast amount more.
I like the no nonsense look and unlike some,I think the Martin- shaped, black fronted headstock, very classy.
Yes it would suit many styles of folk but it could perform almost any kind of acoustic guitar music, with a rich vibrancy.
Product: Simon & Patrick S6 Small Bodied 'Folk' Cedar Price Paid: US $300
Submitted 12/21/2003
at 05:50pm
by Bill/SJCA
Features
:6
I bought my Simon and Patrick a few months ago Oct 2003. I'll agree it's nothing fancy, just the basic features but of good quality.
Mine has a solid Cedar top and satin finish
specs off the webpage are
Indian Rosewood fingerboard and bridge
24.84 scale
14? fingerboard radius
1 ? nut width
tusq nut
fully compensated tusq saddle
quarter-sawn spruce bracing
inlayed wood rosette
The back and sides are made from a three-way hardwood laminate
I'll give it a 6 because it just has basic features, nothing fancy.
Sound
:8
I'm new at Guitar playing, I liked this one because the size and shape felt right. Kent at CB-Perkins actually demoed a few guitars and I picked the one that sounded the best. I've gotten several comments from the guys at work and from my instructor on it's great tone and volume, so I guess I did right. For the price it's a 10, but over all I'll give it an honest 8 and say it's one of the best sounding Guitars under $1000. Not bad for a $300 Guitar.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:7
Out of the box the action was a bit high but very playable. CB-Perkins offers free shop setup with purchaces. I returned it after a week and they set it up sweet. From what I could tell, they lowered the action, and installed new strings, cleaned the neck and frets. They also installed for free a front strap button (button cost $2).
Finish and fit looked great. On the outside I could see no faults. Inside there were a few rough edges, but the fit looked good to me.
Reliability/Durability
:8
With the soft Cedar top, it won't take a lot of abuse. I have no plans to abuse it.
It's well built, holds a tune great and everything about it looks dependable and solid.
A friend who preforms said he wouldn't hesitate to use it on his gigs.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Overall Rating
:10
I just started playing and this was my first Guitar. (I just bought #2 a Godin SD electric) I relied heavily on the advice of others and I think I made a great choice. I've looked at a lot of Guitars... Yamaha's, Fenders, Taylors, Ovations, and others (all under $1000) and this was one of the better sounding. It was the best I found for under $500. If it were lost or stolen I'd get another. To get a "better" Guitar I would also consider spending at least 3 to 4 times more on a Taylor or Martin.
The things I'm thinking of adding are a pick guard, and eventually an electronic pickup. For now I need to practice and get better.
Product: Simon & Patrick S6 Small Bodied 'Folk' Cedar Price Paid: 250 (pounds sterling)
Submitted 09/23/2002
at 04:34am
by Da Rev
Features
:5
Small bodied acoustic. Cherrywood laminate back and sides.
Solid Cedar top. Thin matt finish (I think they call it 'satin).
Bolt neck ala Taylor. 3-part neck looks like stained maple. Very
plain bridge assembly. Nurt and bridge insert some sort of
synthetic bone - micart? Plain, and rather dry looking rosewood
fingerboard.Unnamed tuners - probably Gotoh minis.
Rossette is a transfer. Simon and Patrick headstock logo is a
very cheap looking screen print. All in all, pretty basic and
nothing fancy. No heel cap strap button or second button at
all, which is a real irritation.
Sound
:7
This is where this guitar excels. Excellent fingerstyle guitar
with a good depth of tone. I was fortunate in having a number
of other guitars, various Martins, Taylors and Lowdens to compare
with, as well as comparatively priced models by other manufacturers.
It's obvious where all the money has been spent. Rather than
decoration (and set-up!) it's been spent on tone. No, it's not a
cheap Martin or Lowden - although it does match the low end Martins
for tone, indeed perhaps better, but it is streets ahead of anything
in it's own price category, apart from a Seagull S6 which is
essentially the same model. Way better than the Yamaha CPX or
Double L range, which cost half as much again. It doesn't get a
10 or a 9 becuase that's the territory of top end acoustics like
Breedloves, Martins an Lpowdens, and those guitars do sound sweeter.
But I'll give it......tremendous sound per buck.
Action, Fit, & Finish
:4
The guitar is well made. All the woodworking is accurate and
well fitted. The finish is rather less so. Whilst there are no
big blobs of glue on the inside, some of the finishing is rather
rough inside with no attempt to sand smooth or tidy things. No
matter, this area is generally out of sight and doesn't affect
the sound. The frets were well finished but there was some signs
of over enthusiastic filing leaving uneven marks on the finger
board edge. Again nothing which affects plaing, but just untidy
looking.
The setup was truly awful. So much so, I almost put the guitar back.
The bridge was way too high with an action at the 12th fret of
over 4 mm - it should be 2.4mm at most for an acoustic - and the
nut was cut too high. I don't know what the deal is with this,
perhaps they expect the dealer to do the setting up, but most don't
and simply pull it out the box and stick it up on the wall. I've
noticed this on other S&P guitars and heard others complain about
it. Weird this is, the Seagull S6 I tried, which is the same guitar
from the same factory but with the Seagull headstock, was very well
set up. Once set up it played very well, but having such badly
set up guitars on display in a shop must be putting a whole bunch
of people off buying the product. So bad marks reflect the poor set
up.
Reliability/Durability
:6
Haven't had it long enough, but I know that cedar is easily
marked so I will have to take care of it. The hardware looks
good though. Gotohs have a good reputation and these ones work
very smoothly. I'm not so sure about the finish, as it looks
very thin on top but, I guess that's the price you have to pay
if you want a good sounding top - gives it room to vibrate, rather
than have it stiffled under thick layers of treacle-like laquer.
The bolt-on neck is a plus as it means adjustments later on can
easily be made.
Customer Support
:No Opinion
Never used it
Overall Rating
:10
This is a really good sounding guitar which, once the set up
was sorted, also plays very well. The plain appearance and
slightly untidy features show clearly where the money has been
spent - on sound. Do not overlook one of these simply because
the set-up as supplied (and probably on the display model) is
so poor, your local luthier can sort that out very easily and at
little cost, look at the potential they offer and that potential
is a great sounding guitar. For the amount of money paid, it represents a fantastic bargain.