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Product: Voce Spin II
Price Paid: ? 380
Submitted 04/27/2004
at 05:03am
by Stefan Wlaschitz
Email: stefan dot wlaschitz<at>bmsg dot gv dot at
Ease of Use
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10
Very easy to use. Just turn the nobs and create your own slow/fast speed and acceleration
Features
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9
A little bit noisy, but who cares.
I use it as a backup for my Dynacord CLS 222 which can't be beaten.
Expressiveness/Sounds
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9
It does not sound like the other simulators like H&K Rotosphere, Digitech RSP 1 or Dynacord CLS 222. It sounds a little bit like a phaser, but not bad at all.
My first simulator was a digitech RSP 1 which is rather crap, then I bought a Rotosphere (better), but I did'nt like the distortion.
Then i had the luck to find a Dynacord CLS 222 which is fantastic in combination with a Reu?enzehn tube preamp.
As a backup i bought the Spin II, which I also use in combination with the Reu?enzehn tube. This sounds also very good but a litle bit different to the Dynacord. The spin II itself has no overdirve inside, so you have to use an external tube.
Used in mono, it sounds like an old crank miked leslie with a little phasing, it has a special sound, which I didn't like that much in the beginning, but i get used to it every day more and more.
Sort of drug inspired early seventies progressive rock band....
I use it with a voce V 5, a special combination.
Reliability
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No Opinion
Everything ok, built solid!
Customer Support
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10
Very good, friendly people. i had to order it from USA, i live in the EU
Overall Rating
:
9
Perhaps not the real thing like a cabinet opr a Dynacord CLS 222
but an interesting sound, very clear and direct..
Slow/fast speed and acceleration adjustible.. very good!!!!
Product: Voce Spin II
Price Paid: US $27?.00 I believe... used
Submitted 12/03/2002
at 05:35pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
9
It's pretty easy if you know what this pedal is supposed to do. If you can't figure pedals out, you shouldn't be driving!
Expressiveness/Sounds
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10
I've always heard H&K Rotosphere's the best Leslie Simulation so initially that's exactly what I was wanting to get. Unfortunately (or fortunately as it panned out), I couldn't find it anywhere. It seemed every music store (big & small alike) were no longer H&K dealers. When I finally gave up and asked the store clerk if he's heard of anything else that does the same trick, he recommeded that I try this one. So I did. Honestly at first it wasn't exactly what I had in mind. But then I realized that this does actually sound better than Rotosphere. It's always silly like that. You look for something because you suddenly fall in love with the sound on that one song and so this whole quest to get that sound begins. But luckily in this case, I ended up with something that actually inspires me to cultivate my own sound, and that's exactly what I need. I find most people who grovel over other people's sound to be 2 digit IQ simpletons. (For ex, "I love that Page sound. I'll kill for that Jeff Beck sound. Please!") This pedal helps me to shatter the inner demons in me that wants to relate to idiotic sentiments like that. My emotions aside however, this pedal actually is a pretty accurate simulation of leslie speakers. It's amusing to hear the ration come to a slow halt when you switch the speed.
Reliability
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9
the guitar/line in-switch is a little whimsical. but that's about it. I've only had it for about 3 weeks so we'll see how it goes. If it ever dies, this one's got its place already in heaven.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
I'll worry about this when it actually does go out on me
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
it would be a stretch to say I love anything completely. It's a little noisy at times because of its built in AC power but unless you're the session guitarist for Justin Timberlake's album or something, I wouldn't worry about it. I mean what's a little hum to ya? It's proabably the most expressive pedal that I own that's also the most musical. It instantly paints a beautiful sonic painting non unlike Van Gogh. Almost makes me want to put togother a psychedelic post punk band. Definitely the sound of beautiful drug excursions. I'm dying to try this on vocals (for recording) as well as my Juno-60 synthesizer. Or drums too.. To sum it all up, the best thing about this pedal is that it gives your sound a coat of beautiful haze.
Product: Voce Spin II
Price Paid: US $400.00
Submitted 03/01/2001
at 03:58pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
10
simple to use not much more than your standard stomp box. unit is solid and should be able to take normal rock and roll abuse. i really didnt have to read the manual. this unit is a leslie simulator for keyboards or guitars. first of all keep in mind this is a simulator not a leslie 122 or 145. the sounds are certainly better than a chorus effect pedal but this unit is considerably more expensive
Expressiveness/Sounds
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7
for the guitar application i use a marshall dsL401 combo,i have several pretty standard synth boards with organ patches. your usual suspects, korg, yamaha, ensoniq. i can live with the noise playing out live and am about to try it in the studio, a liitle worried about that. the problem i seem to be having is that even if i turn the output level almost off it's still pretty hot. this causes my instrument be guitar or keyboard to be a lot louder when the unit is on. the result being that when you hit the bypass switch your volume is gone. there is a switch to use for keyboard or guitar. doesnt seem to solve the problem.
Reliability
:
10
i feel the unit is very dependable and would not need to have any sort of backup at a live gig.
Customer Support
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10
the people at voce are super and truthfully i have not yet called them about the output situation.
Overall Rating
:
7
i'm old. play classic rock, blues etc. i've been playing about 35 years. if this unit was stolen i would not replace it. as a matter of fact today i spoke with motion sound re sr112 and pro3t. for years like a lot of other guys we hauled the b3 and 2 leslie cabinets around. the spin II does not recapture that area of my youth. dont misunderstand this unit weighs nothing is easy to use and reliable. i think i need to get closer to the real thing than a simulator can bring me.
Product: Voce Spin II
Price Paid: US $399
Submitted 12/22/1999
at 06:45pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
9
Its a Leslie simulator, and that's all. I bought this unit and then returned it. It definitely has some strong points, but I decided those were outweighed by the negative. Its pretty easy to use. Nothing more than a stompbox with some switches and nobs. Take your average drooling musician off the street and they will figure it out within 3 minutes.
Features
:
7
Its a small box with two stomp buttons on top and controls on the back to adjust the slow and fast rates and the acceleration/deceleration rate (which are treated as one). THere's a volume control, and a switch to go between line level and guitar level inputs. Nice features, all of them. Some leslie simulators get real fancy and allow you to adjust things like individual rotor speed, mike placement, wood finish (just kidding), and so on, so you can't really regard this as the end all of Leslie simulators in that respect.
Its analog, which is probably a major reason why it can pull off such a wickedly good leslie impersonation. Really, I don't think I've heard better. I'm a B-3 player who takes his fascimiles very seriously (I leave my leslie 122 at home mostly, but I won't settle for cheesy imitations in my gigging rig). Here's a list of reasons why I didn't go with the Spin II:
1) While it emulates the doppler effect of a rotary speaker very well, it does not attempt to emulate the tube circuitry of a leslie. The leslie simulator in the Voce V3 does do this, but Spin II doesn't go there. If you're using this with the Voce V5, it does have an overdrive function. While this introduces a certain amount of grit into the sound, it does nothing to warm it up or round off the edges as a leslie would. So you'll have to supplement your setup with something else to accomplish that.
2) Its got alot of high end hiss. That is, if you turn the volume on the Spin II up to around half way or more, you'll hear a noticeable swishing sound in your speakers. Whether this bothers you, you'll have to decide for yourself. I was somewhat neutral about it. It seems like you'll have this kind of noise coming from any analog device that produces such a prounounced rotary effect. You can control it somewhat by keeping the reducing the volume, but then you begin to lose the effect itself. I certainly wouldn't call it a selling point.
3) I didn't like the ergonomics at all. Its housed in the same inch-or-so tall metal box that Voce uses for all its current stuff. I found it not too easy to get my foot up on it and rest it there. Since I'm often riding the slow/fast control as I'm playing, this can be a problem. If changing rotary speeds is a major part of your playing technic, then I don't think its asking too much have a pedal that works with you not against you ergonomically. Also, the slow/fast and the bypass buttons are just a few inches apart. I think most keyboard players are like me in that they are reaching for their pedals more on a sense of feel and memory than on sight. I might have several pedals and boxes down there beneath the boards and inevitably stuff gets kicked around a little during a gig. Its a little too easy with this pedal to land on the bypass button when you just want to change speeds, the result of which is a rather drastic change in sound. Not good. Guitar players probably won't have this problem so much, but from a keyboard player's perspective, it seem like poor design. Voce is a small company and obviously they want to use the same hardware in order to cut costs, but I don't think it worked out well on this unit. On the positive side, its got an AC chord and no wall wart, which could definitely be a problem for the footloose keyboard player.
4) Its pricey. $400 price point for something that gives you a rotary speaker effect only and not even overdrive at that. Not a bargain by any means.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
As I said, it sounds great, very convincing fascimile of a rotary speaker, though not the warmth/distortion.
Reliability
:
9
Seems solidly built. Clearly something one would use without a backup and without fear.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
8
I don't mean to trash this product because the fact is that its stunningly good at what it sets out to do, especially if you can live with a little analog noise as part of the package (and you should, rather than go digital -- yuck). But I didn't think it was very cost effective and the ergonomic issues, which I admit carry alot of weight with me, kind of pushed it over to the undesirable side. As for other options, I believe that everything that Motion Sound does is golden. They have some great leslie simulators that at the same time give you warm real tube preamped sound. I own a Pro-3T (don't bother with the older Pro 3 that lacked tube circuitry) and I love it. But there are many situations in my gigging life where dealing with a miking a rotating speaker is more trouble than its worth. Also, Motion Sound products are quite pricey and, since they use real spinning horns, it entails more weight and bulk in your setup. I got myself a Hughes and Kettner Rotosphere (you'll find it in the guitar accessories department). For a leslie/real tube sound in a little box for under $400, I don't think it can be beat. I don't think rotary speaker effect on the H & K is as good as the Spin II, but its very good nonetheless plus the ergonomics work out much better because it gives you the option of using a remote switch -- that's the ticket.
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