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Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 08/05/2009
at 07:02am
by Pietro
Ease of Use
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9
Very easy to use, the main presets and functions are all accessible. (sounds, transpose, metronome...)
But you need to open the manual for more advanced (never used them in 6 years, except some midi stuff) settings. There is no graphical interface (only 4 character led numbers).
The P80 is for me a PIANO REPLACEMENT, to be played as is without messing around.
Features
:
8
Poliphony is ok, never heard a missed note.
The ACTION is WORDERFUL, the main reason I bought P80 at the time.
Nothing else had this feeling, and it seems they did not make great improvements over time. Action is better than many cheap vertical pianos i played, so real...
I tried the midi interface to play other sounds, but did not spend too much time to map the velocity sent by the P80 to the sound on PC I wanted to use, so I did not have good results. Some other posts say the velocity sent is dependent on the P80 instrument selected, how awkward...
The sequencer is there, easy to use, minimal features, enough to hear yourself again for study...
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
Realistic sound. Perfect on headphones. I'm talking about Grand Piano. The other sounds are fun to use, but P80 IS Grand Piano.
If played through speakers, some notes in the mid-high register seem out of tune, and sound is not clear. But it's an amplifier/speaker issue: using more professional amplifiers, the problem disappears.
A personal guess: the stereo sound is recorded with some phase shifting and intensity delay, in addition to volume difference from left to right, so that the two outputs must be of high quality to keep the synch and make sound come out as intended (and heard in headphone)
Playing is a delight, expecially at night, thus using the headphones and getting the best out of the P80.
Reliability
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No Opinion
Always used it at home, never broke
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Never used
Overall Rating
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10
If stolen, I would buy another or one of the newer models, I hope they still use or improve the same keyboard mechanics of P80.
I wish it had built in speakers, optimized for P80 sounds. If I attach external speakers, I need to look for upper quality systems, which is not always available.
I wish it had an always available "quick guide", engraved or printed somewhere (maybe on the plastic score panel?), to avoid opening the manual.
P80 for me works as a perfect piano replacement.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: USD 900
Submitted 09/11/2008
at 05:05pm
by Jeff Jacobs
Email: jacobsjeff at gmail<dot>com
Ease of Use
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No Opinion
Features
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9
the best. i only wish there was a pitch bender, but that's just me. can't bite the hand that feeds
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
I cannot honestly imagine a better sounding piece of equipment
Reliability
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10
As long as you treat it with care, this is SO reliable
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
10
If you're looking for the best, you'd be crazy not to buy this. I've had it 4 years and I can honestly say it's a decision i will never regret. just be sure to take EXTRA good care of it - no bumping it, or dropping it even the SLIGHTEST bit. If you can help it, always travel with a case (preferably hard - although I use soft and there's been no damage. Any questions feel free to contact me if you have any questions. I love talking about how awesome this keyboard is.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 08/07/2008
at 09:53am
by Duco Lippmann
Ease of Use
:
2
Crappy interface for functions,
manual is very global and doesn't really give detaills
Features
:
1
Very less midi functionality, absolutely no midi keyboard for change controll
the keys are crap, all the d's do break after a couple of years, so you have to open it up and glue all the broken pieces of the keys, and after 2 weeks they are broke again...
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
5
sounds are okey, but no multiple effect support and there are not alot of sounds
Reliability
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3
Totally not reliable...
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Not yet tried...
Overall Rating
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1
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: USD 850
Submitted 06/01/2008
at 02:54pm
by Matthew
Ease of Use
:
9
The keyboard is for the most part easy to use, all except for changing the volumes when you do layer and splits. But other than that it is very simple. The manual explains everything well, this is a digital piano, so there is not much to know, (compared to Tritons and Fantoms) Most presets are good.
Features
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8
The keyboard comes with 64 notes of polyphony and being that the keyboard at most uses 2 voices per note, it holds up very well. The action is good, not as good as on a Clavinova or grand piano. Action is a little on the heavy side. It has some good effects, you can use 2 at a time 1 for reverb and the other for stuff like chorus, tremolo, delay, and something else.
No expansion capabilities at all. It has a 2 track sequencer, its not flexible, but it is pretty easy to use
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
8
Rock piano is the best, Classical piano is to dark. The Jazz and Grand piano is pretty good. The variations of all pianos are okay but not that great. The electric pianos are excellent. EP1 is a nice FM piano and EP2 is a rhodes sound. Strings are decent, organs are pretty good. On Jazz organ with the variation off it is in slow mode, with the variation on, its in fast mode, so its pretty easy controlling rotary speed. This keyboard could probably do best with most styles in which pianos are used. Organs and electric pianos are great, but I wouldn't use the P80 for them. Effects are decent. I just wish the keyboard had a better overall brightness and lighter keys so modern music would be easier
Reliability
:
10
I've had this thing 5 years, its pretty reliable. Paints coming off, and its rusty in some spots, and the letters are fading, but other than that its doing good
Customer Support
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2
Yamaha's customer support is not half as good as Roland or Korg. I think Korg has the best. Yamaha is slow and they hardly ever get back with you on stuff, and really aren't much help.
Overall Rating
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8
Well if it was lost or stolen I probably wouldn't buy it again cause I have a Fantom and a Triton so I use them, and the P80 just sits in the basement (finished) basement of the church. But you never know when you might need it. I've been playing for 10 and 1/2 years, and I also own a Roland Fantom X8, Roland Juno-D, Korg Triton Classic, Yamaha S03, M-Audio Keystation. I looked at other keyboards, but I liked this one the best, it was pretty affordable but that was because I got it on closeout
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 04/17/2007
at 05:17am
by Joshua
Ease of Use
:
8
Very simple. Only difficulty is with functions--the three digit display is very limiting and you need the manual for reference. It also forgets your settings when you turn it off, so I have to reset the reverb and touch sensitivity every time I play.
Features
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9
Everything you need, nothing more, nothing less. For it's time, it was great. Mine is at least 5 years old.
See other reviews for detailed features.
Expressiveness/Sounds
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9
I've had this thing for over 5 years now. No matter what new digital piano comes out, and no matter what the hype surrounding it, this P-80 is STILL the best sounding, most expressive digital piano out there. I've tried Kawais, Rolands, even GEMs. They're all full of shit. Even the newer Yamahas don't sound as good as this.
People (including myself) tend to complain about the short sustain on upper register notes. But the decay sounds NATURAL, unlike the fake sounding ring on their newer digital pianos.
This is also one of the few digital pianos out there that nails the physical dynamics of the damper pedal. Here's the test: Play a chord while holding down the sustain pedal. Release the chord but keep the pedal down. The chord sustains, right? Now depress those same keys all the way down, but slowly enough so that they don't play the notes again. Now release the pedal while holding down the notes. On a real acoustic piano, the notes would continue sustaining. And the P-80 does this. But 99% of digital pianos, including most of Yamaha's other models, don't get this right. (It's basically a way of getting the sostenuto effect without using a sostenuto pedal.)
I'm a pianist, and I don't care about the other sounds. Reverb is descent. Action is more expressive than most digital pianos, but not at all like the real thing. (Again, no matter what the hype, I've never tried ANY digital piano that came anywhere near the feel of a real piano. Not Kawai, not GEM, not Yamaha, not Roland.)
Reliability
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10
Been pounding out Rachmaninoff on it for over 5 years, and it's held up quite nicely.
Customer Support
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No Opinion
Who knows?
Overall Rating
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9
If it had 128 notes of polyphony instead of 64, some more sustain while retaining a natural decay, and a somewhat more realistic action, then this would be a dream instrument. Given its shortcomings, it's still better than everything else I've tried, even "flagship" models costing more than twice as much.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 360 USED
Submitted 04/05/2007
at 07:27am
by Tom Rose
Email: tom at trose<dot>net
Ease of Use
:
10
Previous electronic keyboards I have used were complex to set up, and neede elaborate sequences to be followed to get any sound at all. With the P-80 I just switch on and play. I like the absence of menus - Individual controls for eachg feauture is by far the best for ease of use.
Features
:
8
64 note polyphony is fine - after all there are only 88 notes on the keyboard. It is a definite i provement on 32 which cause problems in much classical piano music
The MIDI capabilities are rudimentary, but I wanted a portable piano thta I can also use with headphones for intensive practive without disturbing everyone for miles around. If I wanted MIDI I'd have bought a MIDI controller
The feel of the keys is good, but not perfect. There is a bit of "springiness" that you don't find on a grand piano.
The ability to record is useful, both for playing concertos, and for objective assessment of my performances. The other features and instruments don't interest me much, but they are easy to use and fun.
Expressiveness/Sounds
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8
The instrument responds with the right level of volume and timbre for the weight and speed that the keys are struck - just like an acoustic piano.
The piano sounds are convincing in the bass and middle register, but the upper registers have a definite electronic sound to them, and do not sustain as long as on a genuine acoustic. They are good enough, but still obviously not the real thing.
Big benefits over an acoustic piano (apart from the obvious ones of portability and silent practice) are that the instrument is always in tune, that the action is consistent through the whole range with gradually reducing weight from bass to treble, and that there are no hammer felts to harden or develop grooves. I find it better than most acoustic pianos for developing tonal control and sensitivity.
Reliability
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8
My P-80 has one small fault. The E flat below middle C occasionally sticks in the up position, usually after the instrument has been stored or transported on end. It is easily released by jiggling it about and coudl probably be properly repaired quite simply, but I don't relish opening up the case myself (and probbly doing some serious damage), or seeking out an instrument technician tht could repair it for me
Apart from that it is completeely dependable and I'd have no problem performing on it without a backup
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I have no experience of Yamaha's customer support.
Overall Rating
:
9
I have been playing piano for 35 years and have played on all the top name grands (Bechstein, Bluthner, Steinway, Bosendorfer) as well as many lesser brands. I own a good quality upright piano. I used to have a Fatar Studiologic 1100 keyboard. It had excellent action, touch sensitivity and after touch, but it needed an external sound generator and was rather fussy and time consuming to set up - which is why I eventually sold it.
For practicality (built-in sound, instant-on) I much prefer the P-80, though I think the keyboard action on the Fatar was marginally better.
If my P-80 were lost or stolen I would certainly consider getting another, or a later model from Yamaha, but I would also check out the competitio to see if anyone has produced a more realistic treble sound in an equally usable and convenient package
It is definitely worth what I paid - but then I bought mine second-hand. I don't know if I would have paid the full retail price for one.
It has been and still is, a tremendous help to me. I like to put in 4 or more hours of practice a day. I could not do that on an acoustic piano. It would be quite impractical in a small house shared with other people. With the P-80 I just plug in headphones, or turn the volume right down on the practice amp, and practice for as long as I like. I also often work away from home, and it is convenient to be able to take a practice keyboard with me.
I would recommend it to any beginning or improving pianist. How good you get depends entirely on how many hours of meaningful practice you accomplish. Future super-stars work at the keyboard for 8 hours a day for several years to develop their amazing skillss. An instrument like this provides the means to do that without driving everyone around you mad!
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 01/26/2007
at 03:49pm
by Pony Express
Ease of Use
:
9
Generally very easy to use and the manual is clear. My only complaint is that features I commonly use (such as local on/off) take more keystrokes than I'd like.
Features
:
8
This an electronic piano and the polyphony (64) is generally more than sufficient. The multiple piano sounds offer nice choices. The built-in reverb and brightness slider are good and allow some tailoring of the sound. The ability to set resistance on the keyboard is a very nice feature, although the keyboard itself is a bit spongy.
The MIDI features are generally adequate. However, the piano will not accept a panning signal from the computer nor can you split it into multiple MIDI transmit zones - of course it's not a controller.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
This piano is great for rock and pop music. The expressiveness and sounds of the pianos on this instrument are excellent, particularly the Grand and Jazz Piano. The Rock Piano itself sounds less than stellar on its own but works pretty well in a blues, blues rock or country mix.
The other sounds on this baby - easy piano, organ, etc. - aren't worth anything but you don't buy it for that. If you want a great, inexpensive electric piano, this is a strong contender.
Reliability
:
10
This piano is very dependable and I have often gigged with it without a backup.
Customer Support
:
8
Have dealt with Yamaha on other instruments and it's support has been very helpful. Not had to deal with the co. on this one.
Overall Rating
:
9
If I lost this piano I'd buy it again or one of its successors in the Yamaha P line. I've been playing for about 30 years and really love the piano sounds on the P-80 in combination with its relatively light weight for an 88-key elec. piano. I've had it for several years now and felt no need to replace it. I own a Yamaha SY-85 and TG500 and a Windows PC with Gigastudio and many sound samples.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $1500
Submitted 03/12/2006
at 09:12pm
by Phil Williams
Email: pianodog<at>sbcglobal dot net
Ease of Use
:
10
The presets? I just turn it on And go. I do a lot of gigs with this thing and have had it for 5 years. The manual, like all manuals, are complicated so I looked at it 3 times in 5 years. But like I said, the beauty of the P80 is you turn it on and go!
Features
:
10
The only effects I really use is the split with bass in the left and jazz piano in the right and let me tell you, using the right amp ( Roland kc300, 350, 500, ) this is as close to the real thing as you can get, upright bass and grand piano for jazz standards and straight ahead, especially if you know how to play left hand bass!
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
Like I said before the bass is awesome with the correct amp and the jazz piano is great. The electric is o.k. The expressiveness works well to me and the touch is definetly real piano like.( I play classical so I know)
Reliability
:
10
Again, 5 + years and many, many gigs 3-4 nights a week every week
and my only complaint was the afore-to-mentioned key-sticking problem
that cost me over the years a few hundred bucks to have repaired until I recently took it in for a yet again stuck key and the shop called me and said yamaha would replace the entire key assembly , which they did. I wish I would have known that a few years ago.
I have used this baby for 5 years and never needed a backup.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Like I said, I did get a major repair which makes me wish I 'da just contacted Yamaha in the first place!
Overall Rating
:
10
If it were lost ( how the heck do you lose an 88 key keyboard...on the other hand I did "misplace" 2 100 Watt Amps ) or stolen ( don't even go there ) I would definitely buy it again, although I would definitely consider something exactly like it with onboard drum kits.
Then I would be a one man trio.
I use a Roland KC300 to play it through and a Kawai GB2 session trainer drum machine.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $1000
Submitted 01/11/2006
at 12:49pm
by GC
Email: pinehill03253 at yahoo<dot>com
Ease of Use
:
10
I HAVE NOT TRIED MIDI YET..BUT HOPE TO SOON. THIS PIANO IS SIMPLE TO USE BUT BE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE PLUGS AND MONITORS THAT DON'T COME WITH THE P-80. ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE FIRST TRYING IT ON A SUNDAY! THE MANUAL IS A MUST WHICH IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON-LINE.
Features
:
No Opinion
64 POLYPHONY IS OK, EXCEPT PLAYING FULL TWO HANDED CHORDS WITH STRING AND PEDAL CUTS OUT WHEN PLAYING FAST.TOO MUCH FOR 64 TO HANDLE? I USE JAZZ PIANO WITH STRING ON THE 17 TO 18 MIX SETTING. LEARN HOW TO USE THOSE MIX SETTINGS.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
REALISTIC SOUNDS! COME ON, YOU CRITICS...SPRING FOR A GOOD AMP (LIKE THE ROLAND KC350 OR KC550. FOR GOOD STUDIO OR SMALL HALL SOUND ALSO PLUG IN YOUR MONITORS AND SUBWOOFER IN THE RCA HOOKUPS! THATS RIGHT,BOTH AT THE SAME TIME (AND THE P-80 HAS ENOUGH OUTPUTS!). PIANOS NEED THE RANGE OF HIGHS AND LOWS! THE AMP IS A MUST AND IS THE "OTHER HALF" OF YOUR SYSTEM.
Reliability
:
10
HAD IT FOR 3RD YEAR NOW...USUALLY STAYS IN ONE PLACE...OCCASIONALLY LUG IT TO A GIG IN A SOFT BAG.(SHOULD HAVE TAKEN UP HARMONICA)sSOUNDS GREAT SOLO AT COCKTAIL HOURS.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
NO NEED YET
Overall Rating
:
10
MIGHT LOOK FOR THE SAME THING WITH MORE INSTRUMENT SOUNDS..P-90 OR EVEN A MOTIF W/88 KEYS
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 11/04/2005
at 12:44pm
by Kevin
Ease of Use
:
10
Brianless. Plug it in and your good to go.
Features
:
7
The action on the board and the weight are the reason I bought the board in the first place. Great!
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
6
I play in a rock band and the rock piano works best for me. The rock organ is pretty good and when you press the "variation" button is give you a leslie simulation effect. The strings aren't bad as well as the electric piano. Howevever, when using the electric piano press the "Hard" button so because if you play too hard the volume suddenly increases.
Reliability
:
10
I have had the P80 for about 5 years now and it has never failed me. I gig with is about 3x's per month and transport it with the Yamaha soft case to/from practice. This keyboard is a workhorse.
Customer Support
:
10
I had a few keys sticking. Not sure why but I play very hard and after 5 years it my be normal wear/tear. I called my local Yamaha repair shop and they called Yamaha for me and described the problem. In 3 weeks I had a BRAND NEW P80 shipped to me.
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $1 000 new
Submitted 09/24/2005
at 04:08pm
by Chris Derry
Email: c dot derry<at>uws dot edu dot au
Ease of Use
:
5
Windows XP
Good but a pity it doesn't have vibraphone, and the chorus and guitar of the p-90. Could have cut down on the number of organs, some of which seem to be rare church samples, including the vicar being throttled. I don't edit patches. The manual is OK but with one little screen and a paucity of knobs, changing settings is like altering the flight schedule on a Boeing (use the manual, otherwise you end up in Brazil). I rationalise that the guy at the factory knew more than I did and use those settings.
Features
:
6
Polyphony is good. Effects minimal but fine for piano. Organ sounds come in louder than piano, so switching over can give organ fans that lift they love. Action: I gave up the Roland RD-300 because the weighting was so light that I couldn't push down the keys on the accoustic afterwards. The Yamaha p-80 gives the fingers a real work out and I feel a bit sorry for the little kids my daughter teaches on it. Beethoven would have loved it. You can change to any piano afterwards have teutonic control. All the pre-recorded tunes are classical as a warning to those like myself who want to slouch at the keyboard drinking rubbish and playing jazz.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
7
Grand sound is excellent through my headphones (30 year old Pioneer SE20A's but still brilliant). But through the amp (Roland RD-100) it sounds reasonable at a distance (ie: when someone else is playing) but poorup close (when I am playing). It seems all murky and muffled with little brilliance. Plugging it into the mike input seems to help so maybe it is seeing too much impedence, which would enhance bass notes. Pity it doesn't have multiple outputs to deal with this, like my old Roland RD-300 (Ol Floppykeys)
Seems to work well with most music types, which I can't play anyway. Onboard sounds generally OK, grand piano very good.I don't play the organ but it seems to me that it doesn't make much sense to have all those organ sounds without a volume peadal. On the other hand, a lot of organ playing should have the volume peadal removed entirely (Leslie's Hits of the Lift and Foyer, Volume 12). I think a few more electric piano sounds (Wurlitzer) would have been nice. The Jamaican drum sound as alternate to EP1 is diabolical as are the string sounds which I can't seem to get right with any piano sounds. One is so slow that it sounds like you have tuned in to an afternoon classical station (you don't know its on the air for the first minute or so). I can only seem to get the bass on the split keyboard with the alternate sounds in the upper part. The instrument seems to react well to playing. I'm not quick enough to test velocity and aftertouch.
Reliability
:
7
Hard to tell until something goes wrong, but seems reliable. A free soft case would have been great, even if it had meant promoting something like MacDonalds. I don't think anything likes to get banged around too much.
Customer Support
:
9
The lugs on the distal ends of the keys (inside the piano) also started breaking on mine (the D's went). Seems to be a common experience. Being 1 year and three months outside the 12 month guarantee period, I repaired one with Shelly's Plastibond whereas a number of Pratley equivalents didn't work. Got tired of this though, so bought two new keys for about $5 US each. These arrived overnight from Yamaha Australia (package post)after an afternoon phone call. A week later a concerned sales manager phoned me to say that he'd noticed I was buying spares and this was not on. The resin used to cast the keys must be at fault and he had contacted Japan who were sending a full replacement mechanism. This took a couple of months to arrive but was fitted in a day when it did, with no charge for mechanism or labour. So in Oz big brother is watching your purchases and if you make a wrong move you are likely to have the entire piano recalled.
Overall Rating
:
8
If lost I would buy a P-90. Won't shift from Yamaha as I have played everything else in music shops and they are inferior. I think this is one of the few serious electrics that some won't like as it is too much like a real acoustic and reminds you of the piano you were taught on (the good one). For learning music I think it must be about the best. Wish I had the P-90's chorus and guitar. Also a vibraphone. My playing has really gone ahead now I am off the sloppy RD-300, which was old, but they still seem to make some of their new keyboards very sloppy. The P80 should have a clock so I would know when to get off it.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 09/02/2005
at 07:39am
by Dominik
Ease of Use
:
No Opinion
Features
:
No Opinion
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
No Opinion
Reliability
:
10
This is an addendum to my earlier review. I have received some eMails from people whose P80 keys had broken like mine.
The story is: After one key after another cracked and I found out that they are 1. not "glueable" and 2. too expensive for replacement, I called YAMAHA Germany to ask them whether this was a known problem.
And they said, yes, we know of that, and they told me to go to an authorized Yamaha workshop and have THE ENTIRE KEYBOARD replaced -- for free!
I must say that is really fair. They seem to have used inferior, brittle plastic in older models, and they seem willing to keep Yamaha's overall good reputation. And the technician said the new keyboard is made of a different material. He told me he had already replaced quite a few of those keyboards. From the outside however, there is no difference, same feel, same weight, and the keys are black & white too :-)
Now I have a new instrument really (the electronics or the casing would most certainly not wear out considerably), and to be on the safe side, I avoid playing too hard.
To answer the suggested questions: After 3+ years playing this instrument without a backup, I would say it is quite safe to rely on it. It's a Yamaha.
Customer Support
:
10
-- See above --
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $900
Submitted 08/10/2005
at 04:20pm
by seth
Email: seth at nsi<dot>edu
Ease of Use
:
8
Very easy to plug in and play for the basic presets. Navigating to the deeper functions is a pain. Manual necessary. Main point of this review is RELIABILITY (below).
Features
:
9
Its a piano, not a workstation. The sequencing features are basic. The keyboard action is great and the polyphony quite sufficient.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
The piano is mighty fine. That's all you need to know.
Reliability
:
1
It seems that nobody has ever had a problem with a Yamaha. I must be terribly unlucky. I have had the machine for nearly 2 years now. All well for the 1st year but then the electronics have gradually gone on the blink. What happens now is that whenever I push a button (try to change the preset, transpose, demo, whatever) - the piano seems to take some random action and a bunch of unrelated lights change. The upshot is I can't get it to do anything other than play the main piano sound, which is the default on power-up. Has anyone had the same experience? Any ideas what to do? Note that the machine has always been well looked after in my home, never gigged, never dropped etc. Needless to say I am extremely frustrated.
Customer Support
:
1
When I phoned Yamaha all they said was, yes, somebody should take a look at it. Great. Thanks.
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
If it worked OK I'd recommend it very highly. Unfortunately, given the reputation Yamaha has for high reliability, I feel compelled to share my less than ideal experience. I'm not trying to put people off the P80 - I'm just wondering if I'm the only one to have had problems. Let me know if you have.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $900
Submitted 06/26/2005
at 08:43am
by pnoybro
Ease of Use
:
10
Give the Grand Piano a good EQ and iy'll be SUPERB
The EP's are COOL... just don't forget to adjust the sensitivity level to HARD or you'll get sudden bursts of velocity level
The Rock Piano's nice too
The Jazz Organ is also nice but the weighted keys get in the way
Features
:
5
64 NOTE POLYPHONY is generous and the keyboard action is very close to the real thing
The effects are very basic yet serves its purpose
MIDI??? FORGET IT (REALLY)
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
SUPERB Grand Piano (don't forget to EQ it well) It respondes to how I hit
Reliability
:
10
So far so good... no problems here
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
9
My next buy would be the P90... Equally light, good, yet more useful sounds
I've been giging all over Asia and I've been investing on equipment ever since. My collections are DX7s - D50 - O1Wfd - X5 - Triton Studio 61 - QS6.2 - S4 - SE Orchestra - Vocalist VR - KORG iH. All have their own beauty so comparing doesn't really apply. One wish I'd have on the P80 or P90 keyboard is the 76 key version with the highest octave removed (A1 to C7 remains), not he one that starts with the F2 key. Easier for gigs.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $900
Submitted 06/24/2005
at 09:18pm
by pnoybro
Ease of Use
:
9
As a Grand Piano = EQ it well and it'll be SUPERB
As an E. Piano = you have to adjust the sensitivity to HARD to avoid sudden bursts of level especially the Rhodes and it'll be COOL
As a Midi Controller = Forget it, (REALLY)
Features
:
8
It has a generous 64 note polyphony and the keyboard action is very close to the real thing. It responds on how much you hit it. The effects are very basic but it suits what I use it for (GRAND PIANO & E. P.) Not the MIDI... it really is a shame for YAMAHA
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
GRAND PIANO & both E.P's. will be rated (9.5)... the Rock Piano a (9)... The Jazz Organ sounds very good too but the weighted keys will get in the way of playing even if you adjust the sensitivity.
Reliability
:
10
Very Reliable...
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
It's built well enough to take the punishments a giging pianist has to go through so it hasn't been sent for repair
Overall Rating
:
9
It's definitly worth the price I paid but if I have to get a new one, I'd get the P-90 because it's equally good and lightweight yet more useful sounds.
I been giging for 15 years all over Asia and invested on equipments ever since. The ones I own are (DX7s - D50 - O1Wfd - X5D - O1R - O5R - S4R - KORG SYMPHONY - ROLAND SOUND EXPANSION ORHESTRA - ALESIS QS6.2 - TRITON STUDIO) all have their pro's and con's
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $799
Submitted 06/06/2005
at 11:04pm
by abmoser
Ease of Use
:
9
I like the presets, usually keep mine on Jazz Piano or mix it with strings/electric piano for an interesting combined sound. I've only used this to record phrases to be able to listen to how I play it, but I don't think editing is even a possibility beyond play and record. You can't even rewind.
The piano's very easy to use, plug it in, get an amp, turn it on, go. Tough to change most of the settings because of the design of the interface, with just one 3 digit LED to guide you. Better have the manual next to you if you want to mess around with those settings. Personally, i haven't touched them since the second week I owned the piano, almost 3 years ago.
Features
:
9
I've never had a problem dropping notes in polyphony, with 64-note it'd be tough. I got the keyboard because the action felt very similar to the baby grand I learned how to play on, a Young Chang from 1988. It has basic built-in effects, though I'm sure anyone that's buying it for anything beyond a straightforward digital piano will be disappointed. There is no expansion, and I don't know how to use MIDI, although I really should look into that one of these days. Don't even know what an on-board sequencer is.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
Again, I got the keyboard because it reminded me so much of my piano at home. Having had it for some time now though, I can safely say it sounds much more like a true Yamaha than my piano, which by comparison shouldn't even be compared because it would just be a waste of time. The classical piano sounds nice, although I find it a little too muffled. I keep mine set on jazz most of the time, it provides a nice clear sound without being too bright, like the rock piano sample. The only song i can't do on this keyboard is billy joel's angry young man, the key doesn't react quite that fast. Other than that, it keeps up with everything I do, and everyone keeps telling me i play everything too fast.
Reliability
:
9
Yamaha. Duh.
I don't play gigs, if i did no i wouldn't bring a backup, but only because i'm a broke college student and can't afford another one.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I've never needed support.
Overall Rating
:
10
If it were lost or stolen, I'd cry. I love my keyboard. Afterwards, I'd probably get another P80, but i'd look at the similar Yamahas with a few more features, especially built in speakers. I hear Korg's an excellent brand too, but I didn't really like any of the ones I tried out when I picked the P80.
I love the fact that there's a piano in my bedroom that sounds and feels like a fullsize grand, and best of all, i can play it at 2:30 AM (as i just did) with a pair of headphones on. It's easy to move, it's very simple to use, and it does everything i want. i hate nothing about it.
I tried a lot of different keyboards but couldn't tell you which ones, it was too long ago.
it doesn't help me make music, i help it make music.
p80 is, in my very limited opinion, by far the best keyboard you can get for the money.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $895.00
Submitted 05/16/2005
at 02:16am
by Johnny D
Ease of Use
:
7
The basic useage is simple - there are not a lot of bells and whistles but I didn't purchase the P80 for that. I don't much care for the navigation of the function settings - they are completely non-intuitive unless you focus on memorizing everything, or you have your manual handy. But, other than that, its pretty simple to use.
Features
:
9
Part of the reason I purchased the P80 was for the key action. Personally I like it. I can change the weight of the keys (personally I feel the difference between the settings - to me there is a big difference between heavy and light!). Effects, sequencers, etc... if you purchased the P80 for those things, you made a mistake. I think the P80 does what it was designed for - its a digital piano. Period. To me, the features are the key action, the simplicity, and the piano sound.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
I purchased my P80 a couple of years ago and at the time, I compared it to several other models from Korg and Roland. (In fact I still own a Korg, which I like for some of the effects). From a piano perspective, for under $1000 I don't see how I could have done better. Yes they have other sounds like electric piano and harpsi and yada yada but I didn't buy the P80 for those. I think the piano sounds very good. I use it exclusively in the studio and I like it.
Reliability
:
10
I turn it on, it works.
I don't gig with it.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
9
If it were lost or stolen, I would definatly look at getting another one. I might shop for what else is out there but I would not overlook the P80. It is worth what I paid for it because it does what it was designed to do. Dude, if you purchased this and you didn't like it, you were a dork because you didn't buy what you needed.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $899.00
Submitted 12/08/2004
at 06:10pm
by Joepiano
Ease of Use
:
8
Presets are good. No problems here
Features
:
8
Has more than adequate polyphony. I play fast New Orleans Blues, and Jazz, there is no way you can drop chords.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
Okay, here is the deal. I read somebody's note below and I said "WOW-ME TOO!!" The keyboard sounds fantastic with headphones. GREAT! But it sounds very muddy when hooked up to every kind of amp that I have tried. i have no idea why. But it is true. So I will just vote on the headphones...
Reliability
:
10
Solid as a rock
Customer Support
:
10
don't need it. See above
Overall Rating
:
8
If it were lost or stolen I would cry, and then I'd go get the P120 so I didn't have to mess with an amp.
It is a great practice keyboard and it is good for small gigs.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $950
Submitted 08/30/2004
at 08:40am
by Thiago Bocato dos Santos
Email: thiagobsn at ig<dot>com<dot>br
Ease of Use
:
9
There are minimal flaws in this issue, Yamaha interfaces for digital pianos an synths are straightforward and intuitive, overall features like layering, splitting, metronome use and recording don't need even a quick read in the user's manual. For secondary itens like tuning, emulation of size of ressonance box, the keyboard deserves a better display. The funciont aliases for extra functions seems a task of computer geeks.
Features
:
8
The metronome and sequencer are must have items for any digital piano, even for entry level models. The polyfony is adequate, I've played Chopin first op.10 etude and Debussy's Reflects dan's eau without dropouts. The efects are ok, a distortion effect for the organs would be welcome. The variations piano sounds are not necessary, since they are rather poor in fidelity. It would be marvelous if there were slots for PLG boards.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
For the price paid, it deserves the best rating. There are only two samples better than P80 Grand, present only in the damn good but a bit expensive Korg Extreme (in my opinion the best workstation ever made, with a built-in and unmistakable steinway), and RD-700's (Bosendofer like), whose synth makeup make its price a joke.
The notes on the P80's grand, fifth octave sounds a bit cheesy (but beautiful on the classical sample), and the overall notes clean, blurred, mellow, but is much better that any ordinary accoustic grand.
The output quality depends on the kind of equipment. Is perfect with high quality phones, like Philip's SBCHP195 and SBCHP250, and it works good with various external monitors, I play my P80 in different t places, but for professional purposes, a external equalizer is needed. The dynamic fidelity is remarkable and pedaling extremely precise, consider using a FC3 model footswitch.
The action, albeit heavy to professional players, is instersting to students and better than a lot of jurassic acoustic pieces present in music schools. I'm considering to use my unit as a controller.
Reliability
:
10
No comments, it's a Yamaha.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I don't needed that.
Overall Rating
:
9
It's the best digital piano I have seen and it really deserves the awards that it have. Is not right to compare the a digital piano with good acustic ones, and reviews in this sense is out of scope. We are talking about sampled units.
Before buiyng it, i have tested Kurzeil PC2, RD-700, P120 and some korg models but them all have a inadequate action, albeit the good sound fidelity. Pressing a roland keyboard is like to put your finger in a sandbox. Yamaha action is unbeatable, even for synths (BHEffect).
I haven't upgraded to P120 or P90 cause the samples of this new generation is too bright. I'm focused on jazz and classical, because of that, I remain using my actual unit and in brief months I will get a korg extreme workstation. If do you want to get a new generation Yamaha keyboard with more sofisticated resources, consider a S90 synth.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $750.00 used
Submitted 06/11/2004
at 12:12pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
10
I'll admit that I don't have the extensive talent or experience of many of the reviewers, but I own an upright grand piano and have owned 2 Hammond tone generator organs. I think the P80 is very intuitive and simple to use. If you are looking for a lot of bells and whistles, this keyboard probably won't satisfy your needs but for me, the simplicity makes it all the more appealing. I want to play an instrument that doesn't require an engineering degree.
Features
:
10
The 64 note polyphony is plenty for me but I suppose someone could run out of voices on very complex, sustained passages. The adjustable action is nice and firm but since the action on acoustic pianos varies from one to another, it is difficult to compare the two. I particularly enjoy the split keyboard (for bass) and the dual voicing for varying the sound.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
When listening through headphones, the lower and upper registers of the piano voices are hard to distinguish from the real thing. I may not have much use for the harpsichord and church organ voices, but after having played the Hammonds, I think the organ voices are very good; especially in light of the fact that they can be mixed with other voices. A lot depends on what you are using to produce the sound (amp / speakers).
Reliability
:
10
Have had no problems and it seems to be well made with a nice finish and control layout.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
NA
Overall Rating
:
10
If anything happened to this instrument, I would definitely try to replace it with the same make/model. Everyone likes to get a bargain, but I think this keyboard is worth what I paid for it. I enjoy listening to live music and I know what I like. I have heard the P80 played by other musicians (better than me) and I was blown away by the sound. On at least one occasion, the only amplification was a small powered Yamaha speaker / monitor! I enjoy practicing with the headphones so as not to disturb anyone else in the house. The fact that the keyboard action and voicing imitate the real thing is icing on the cake.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: SEK (10.000)
Submitted 02/23/2004
at 10:45am
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
No Opinion
no proplem
Features
:
No Opinion
I hate the fact that I am paying much just for the keys while the sample memory for many of the sounds are filled with worse than toy quality sounds.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
No Opinion
I read all the statements here and spent much times trying out the p80, but once I had it at home, I noticed many bad things about it.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
no comment
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
no comment
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
1. some of the piano samples are really bad and annoying
2. the sustain is way tooooo short, which is strange since one only have to make it longer, doesnt need more sample memory in itself
3. the harpsicord is very bad
4. the other sounds are also bad, like a toy,,,it is a shame!
5. the special reverb for soundboard is cut directly once you release the sustain pedal, and it just sounds cut.
6. I sold mine...was a waste of money
7. but ...if one like it, that is good...for me, it was just a waste of time and money...
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: $2000 (AUS)
Submitted 02/08/2004
at 10:19pm
by murftone
Email: murftone2002<at>yahoo dot com dot au
Ease of Use
:
10
The YAMAHA P-80 is extremely easy to use. however, i would suggest that after your first hour or so playing, to start checking out the manual 'cause you will definitely need it sooner or later. this 'break' will also give your fingers/wrists/forearms a rest 'cause the action is quite heavy (unless of course you do most of your playing on a 'real' piano) and we don't want any of those naughty tendon type problems do we Wolfgang.
Features
:
10
This heavier 'realist' action on a portable digital piano is to me, the best invention since the tea bag ! i do not own a real piano. i have had a Roland HP-1700 for 10 years which has a light action and there is nothing worse than sitting down at a 'real' piano and feeling like a beginner ... "goodbye mister chops". after 12 months on the P-80 i can now sit down at ANY piano and rattle off fluent 'psuedo' classical scales, arpeggios and flourishes that never fail to impress older folk. (i am a jazz player). having a compact portable keyboard in this price range with such a realistic action is a dream come true for me and, i'm sure, many other serious players. at the time of purchase it was between the Roland RD-150 (whose sounds i preferred) and the 'yammy'.
they were the same price .... $2000 here in australia.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
1
O.K. This is where things get rather sad so pour yourself a stiff drink and read on. i have had ENORMOUS problems with MY P-80 from day one. in hindsight i should have ignored 'advice' and opinion and returned it immediately.
PROBLEM # 1. the thing sounds quite good through headphones (sennheiser hd-450) but i can't get a good sound through ANY amplifier/speaker combination and believe me i've tried a lot of gear in the last 12 months. my main keyboard rig (i play guitar also) is a YAMAHA EMX 68s stereo powered mixer with a pair of WHARFEDALE EVP-S10 speakers.
PROBLEM #2. there are six notes from G# (two octaves above middle C)up to the next C# that are very distorted or 'furry'.
PROBLEM #3. the midi transmit velocity is very weak and .... get this ... VARIES from patch to patch. only the 3 organ patches transmit a reasonably healthy midi velocity. (i purchased a ROLAND JV-2080 after having so much problems with the 'yammys' built in sounds and have other sound modules as well).
I have read with much interest ALL of the P-80 reviews below ... especially "ACE" 11.21.2001 and "STEVE T" 4.8.2003 and it seems that MY P-80 might be one very sick puppy.
however, i am hoping to rectify these problems and give a glowing report. if you have any suggestions (please don't say chuck it in the creek and get another one and please don't tell me how good yours is ... i've read ALL the reviews below), email me at murftone2002@yahoo.com.au
also, i've been a pro muso for 33 years .... yep, there i was age 16 with my les paul and piggyback fender tremolux helping the keyboard player lug in his B3 and leslie tone cabinet so we could thrill the audience with santana covers .... so don't say dumb things like check your leads etc.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
Everyday when i switch on the P-80 i can rely on it to sound shithouse.
Customer Support
:
1
My retailer/dealer is a good guy and has been in the music business as long as i have and can play well. however he does not acknowledge problems #1 and #2 ... i did suggest that small monitors on the floor 8 feet away mite not be ideal test conditions but he was more interested in the midi transmit problem.
must admit dear reader that i was a little pleased and feeling less of a dickhead when he hooked up the P-80 to another keyboard and, after much button pushing and manual flicking said "HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM". i sat back and watched as my poor P-80 (laying on a bench with many cables connected to it) was being prodded and poked by the other salesmen and curious shoppers. it was like a scene from E.T.
the piano ended up at yamaha H.Q. here in melbourne. The top guy there rang me two days later and said that after testing for all the above problems he could find nothing wrong with it ! sounds a bit like the weapons of mass destruction saga (although i'd prefer to call my piano a 'weapon of jazz construction').
after all this stuffing around the piano is now out of warranty and,although the problems over the past 12 months have been duly noted, all correspondence was verbal .. either in person or over the telephone (remember those funny communication devices ?). if it was all emailed i could print out etc. a lesson for us all there my friends.
Harmony Central users ... please help me get this potentially brilliant digital piano up and running. i wish i'd stumbled on this site 6 months ago. it is excellent. regards, murftone.
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
if it were lost or stolen ? not a good time to ask me this question or ask for my autograph. just let me say this. every nite before i go to bed i carefully put the P-80 in the hallway, give it a gentle wipe with a soft rag (very dusty my place), carefully place the manual and the two power adaptors (good idea to have a spare) on the keys and LEAVE THE FRONT DOOR WIDE OPEN !
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 1000 (EUR)
Submitted 01/01/2004
at 12:33pm
by Dominik
Email: dk215 at web<dot>de
Ease of Use
:
8
The basic use is very easy. Not too many options, so you cannot make a lot of mistakes.
However, there are some "special" settings like volume balance or individual pitch settings in split and layer modes (which I use occasionally) that are not easy to access since there is only a 3-digit LED display. Those "hidden" parameters are organised in "function menus" and of course, they are not self-explanatory.
The manual, however, is OK (which is not difficult to achieve since this is not a complex machine).
Features
:
5
Polyphony is absolutely sufficient in my opinion.
Effects are OK for live use, but they are nothing fabulous when compared with a good FX processor. Effects are easy to apply, and the assignment is memorized individually for each voice. So are individual tuning and volume balance in split and layer modes. However, you cannot store these settings to a dedicated memory.
There is no expansion possibility. However, you might stick a baroque-type wallpaper with floral design to it :-)
MIDI functions are nothing more than rudimentary. You can select a channel, switch local on / off, and that's it. No great masterkeyboard since it does not provide aftertouch or any controllers other than the (non-graded) sustain pedal. There isn't a second ("soft") pedal (as in every grand piano).
The best thing is the portability (rather slim and only 17 kg).
A clear setback is the external power supply ("wall wart"). That one really sucks. Mine dropped once and was defunct thereafter (after I already had to fix a broken cable).
The sequencer cold not be designed any more bare-boned. Two tracks, a click, but no editing or rewinding and the like. Just play / stop (and record, of course). Nonetheless, you can record two different sound on the two tracks.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
7
The piano samples are really OK. Nothing great when compared to a grand piano (in good condition), but often I'd prefer this one over a real piano provided at performance locations.
The dynamics are very good, and so is the alignment between action and sound engine.
Nonetheless, a (good) acoustic piano is still beyond reach for ANY digital simulation. In the P-80, the treble notes lack a bit of sustain and that shiny bell tone, and the overall sound is more "mellow". That's OK for some styles, but not so great for pop tunes where you will have difficulties with integrating the P-80 into the mix. It just doesn't have that "sparkle" you'd expect for an Elton-John-style production.
The other sounds are just little goodies, really nothing expensive. I often use the strings layered to piano, and that is rather good for comping musical tunes. Harpsichord and pipe organs are OK, jazz organ is ridiculous, The e-pianos are average while the Rhodes suffers a too distinctly different sound between soft and hard stroke sample.
The Action:
I think the touch of the P-80 is a bit too heavy, and the action swallows some of the energy. It doesn't run quite as smooth like a (properly regulated) real action. This makes playing unnecessarily difficult (try a very fast piece like the "Etincelles" of Moszkowski in comparison on a grand piano), and it holds the potential danger that not-so-sturdy persons (like I am) to get injuries or joint problems from extensive playing. The rather hard "bottom" (the key resting point when pressed down) adds to this risk. It requires a VERY hard stroke to get the loudest of three velocity layers. That is (for me) hardly possible with chords, but just with single notes.
The dynamic range is, as I said, very good, but I don't find the slope of the curve perfect. It's more easy to play soft or loud. On a real piano, the midrange sound levels are more accesible. That's of course my subjective point of view (as this whole review is).
Action lifetime:
Due to extensive playing for about three years now (including regular home practice, transport and many live performances), the keys of my unit tend to break. There is a little edge on the rear end of the key which simply cracks away after a certain time. So the key would stand slightly angled, and it would gets stuck (stays down) over time. You cannot really repair this (a probable fix with super glue showed not to be forever) but the respective key must be replaced in the end. And single keys are rather expensive (about 10 $ equivalent here in Germany).
Despite all of these restrictions, the key action (and the sounds) are really good for a less-then-1000-bucks instrument.
Reliability
:
7
It is rather reliable, but when taken "on the road" frequently, it should not be carried in a soft bag. And there is the problem with the cracking keys (see above). I wonder if anyone but me encountered that problem. Please feel free to email me in that case. In general, I would say such an electronic instrument is not made forever since it is not really serviceable like a real piano where you can replace even the smallest part.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I never dealt with them because the unit basically worked, except for mechanical problems which would require a replacement -- I can do that myself.
Overall Rating
:
8
If it was lost or stolen (or if a major repair of my worn-out unit should not pay anymore) I would check out Kurzweil's PC2 because of the lighter action, its highly integrative piano sounds (I recently heard it live in a concert and it sounded really good / realistic to me) and its masterkeyboard capabilites. The Kurzweil, however, is twice as expensive.
Anyway -- good value for the price.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 790 ? used
Submitted 10/17/2003
at 12:10pm
by Ralf Friman
Email: rmaster at jippii<dot>fi
Ease of Use
:
9
Very simple - no problems with using this machine, easy to get your own personal settings back after some one other has used it. A few simple reverbs,easy to use + fix a little, I haven't faced any problems. And that simple fact that this one weights only 16.8 kgs (37 lbs) makes it easy to get to gigs and everywhere. Would tell you about the manual but didn't get onw eith
Features
:
8
Polyphone is great,has been enough for me all the time never cutting off any notes. And once again must say,that keyboard action is fabulous! Probably one of the best I've ever tested. Way ahead of it's competitors at this price. Haven't really used the MIDI section at all,and well,this isn't really a MIDI-keyboard..not at least ment to be that way primarly I guess. 2-track sequencer,works fine,but not anything more.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
Grand piano is fantastic,also classical piano. Other pianos are quite fine,but don't really know how reasonable is for example 'Rock Piano' or some voices which are not that excellent. I like the Rhodes sound of the variation of Electric Piano 2, but I am disappointed with Strings and Organ sounds, they should have concentrated more on those also. But Grand Piano is great.
Reliability
:
10
Have never seen anything made by Yamaha fail - very reliable. No problems with this keyboard. It's very expressive, could be used without backup in some situations. But however isn't really used by itself.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Haven't used support..dunno about it.
Overall Rating
:
9
Best keyboard for used as a electric piano at this price. Fantastic touch, very reliable. If you're looking for a MIDI-keyboard or keyboard with fine sequencer, forget this one. But if used primarly for piano sound, this is the one.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $899
Submitted 08/28/2003
at 11:10am
by Jay
Email: jletourn<at>acsu dot buffalo dot edu
Ease of Use
:
10
For basic sounds, as simple as it gets to produce sounds straight out of the box. The manual is fine. Changing split points is incredibly easy, as are: transposing, using the two-track recording function, metronome, changing presets, volume, etc. It is also extremely simple to tune the piano in microtones, which is often useful if you happen to be playing along with LPs etc.
Features
:
5
I rate this a five, because of the presence of the recording function, transpose, etc. It is, to my ear, best employed as a digital piano, however.
Serious flaws in design include the lack of ability to easily switch between sound modules and internal voices (I use an AB box to switch between piano and my Voce organ module), and the inability of the P80 to send VERY basic MIDI program changes. I still use a Voce Micro-B2, and cannot access any of its sounds which are not accessible by its own rotary control knob.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
Out of the box I only use the classical and grand piano presets, with the brilliance slider set to "Mellow." I have found that layering the Harpsichord and EP2 presets, when channeled through a distortion pedal and wah, creates a more-than-acceptable Clavinet substitute, especially when the rest of the band is playing at volume and can handle the dirty tone created by the distortion box. The upright bass preset is OK, and I often use it to record walking bass lines as an instant "Band in a box" type thing, to practice improvising over new changes. The ability to loop recorded tracks would have been nice.
However, if one discounts heavy effects processing or special, "fooling around" applications, I've not found the extra-piano voices to be useful at all, except for laughs.
I use a JBL Eon 15 G1 to reproduce the piano sounds, and also to amplify the organ module I use for tonewheel sounds. The powered monitor gives a great clean sound, throughout the entire dynamic range, for the pianos.
The action is superb. It's more difficult to play fast runs in jazz, blues, or obviously after the Hammond fashion, as opposed to on a good "compromise" keyboard such as the Kuzweil SP76 (or my old Wurlitzer 200A for that matter), it pays off in that one is able to properly inflect classical music, which would be impossible on a semi-weighted board. I admit it took me a while to be able to play full-on Albert Ammons, James Booker, Jerry Lee Lewis pieces at tempo on a quite stiff action, but I'm glad I learned how without giving up playing Brahms's Op. 118, or Schumann's Op. 76 on the very same keyboard. I think it's psychological valuable to see the music one plays as not essentially disparate, and to find in an instrument whose tonal variances are not commensurable to, e.g., that between a nylon- and a steel-stringed guitar, some sort of parity.
Bottom line: I don't need a better piano sound, or a better action, and I never will. And if you want to try my faux clav patch, go ahead and enjoy. But the only sound it does OK is piano. For solo, or playing at home, I use classical at mellowest slider point. To cut through a mix, you can mess around with the brilliance slider and try grand, or even jazz or rock. But it's strictly piano.
Reliability
:
10
It's tough enough, I suppose. Its case is solid, maybe prone to scuffs if you're concerned about that, but I've not opened it up to see how it's built inside. I've taken it to many gigs, usually just encased in the soft-sided bag Yamaha recommends for its product. It hasn't failed yet, but it might. Who knows? NEVER place this on some crappy x-stand, if you're going to play hard. I have used a QuikLok Ws556 (unsure of the exact model number) to great success, as have a number of people I've talked to, some with the same P80 I've got. It's designed as a speaker stand/keyboard stand sort of thing. It supports up to 300 lbs. or so, costs around USD100, and won't fail (except in case where some chooch falls over onto the whole thing and spills it all, mos likely given the thin profile of the instrument.).
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
10
I was initially gravely disappointed at the way the P80 failed to make it when controlling even a simple Hammond organ module, but I've since learned a great deal about the world of pro gear. I would not part with the P80, simply because it offers, especially with the amplification I've provided for it, a choice instrument on which to practice and even perform and sort of music one might like to play on ACOUSTIC piano. It is quite light, although not enough to make me want to lug it around for casual jams or frequent rehearsals. I think if one is serious about the PIANO as an instrument, this unit can't be beat -- also, it's cheap, esp. these days. For me, I needed for casual gigging a shorter board with better vintage-keys voices, more suited for playing the simple, repetitive, sound-as-commodity music people pay to hear. But as a piano, P80's A-OK. BTW, I'm selling my Voce Micro B-II if anyone's interested -- won't bother Ebaying but if you contact me we could talk.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $699.00
Submitted 08/11/2003
at 05:52pm
by steve
Ease of Use
:
9
Very simple to use; it has 12 basic sounds/presets, each with its own
labeled button. Then there's a 'variation' button, which will give
each preset a minorly different sound. Buttons for various basic effects (reverb and chorus)
Sliders for volume and tone; pretty intuitive setup for the metronome
and two track recording.
All the hookups, power, pedal, go on the left side of the keyboard.
Simple.
Features
:
10
Polyphony is more than I can play with my 10 fingers! It has midi.
But the main draw, for me, was the sounds and feel of the weighted keys.
All I can say is, using my AKG270 headphones, it's the closest I've
ever found to playing a real piano, and a great sounding one at that!
You can also adjust the sensitivity of the keys, which will be useful
for those of us who like to pound, and those of us who like to back
off.
I'm giving it a 10 based on what it is- a high quality, portable,
digital piano.
It you're wanting a digital work station, then this is not the keyboard
for you.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
The piano sounds are fantastic. Electric pianos are great.
The organs are very good, though a little limited in their ability to
accurately reproduce all the nuances, given the nature of those
instruments. Strings and bass are adequate; not bad, not great.
I bought the keyboard because I felt it had both the best piano sounds,
and the best feel, of anything near its price range. I don't expect
to use the other sounds too much
Reliability
:
9
I use it in my studio, so it doesn't get moved at all, so I can't
comment too much on its reliability as for a serious gigging instrument.
However, I currently use and have used a number of Yamaha instruments
and recording equipment (trumpets, drums, DSP Factory, etc...) and
I've never had any failures at all with any of them, so I'm pretty
confident this keyboard will hold up well, as long as I don't drop
it out the window.
Customer Support
:
9
Have never had to deal with them. The one time I emailed them,
regarding some incorrect information on their drums website, I
received a reply within a few hours.
Overall Rating
:
10
If it were lost or stolen, I would immediately look for another one!
(Especially since it's being discontinued- hence the price I paid.)
I played a number of keyboards while looking to buy; the ones I most
seriously played and pondered over- the Roland RD150 and FP3, the
Korg SP200, and the Kurzweil PC2. I liked all these keyboards, but
none of them gave me the impression of playing a real piano like the
P80 did. Everyone's ear and feel are different, but for me, the P80
stood out above everything near its price range.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $799
Submitted 08/06/2003
at 01:02am
by John
Ease of Use
:
10
Very easy to use. plug it in, turn it on, set volume levels, and start ticklin' those ivories. Setting up the basics like changing the sounds, setting tempo, split/dual mode, adding reverb etc. can easily be done. Everything else can easily be found in the manual, and are only a few button pushes away. Ive never had a need to go into the function mode yet, but you can find things such as split/dual volumes (which sound is louder/quieter), tuning etc.
Features
:
9
Although not full of features, it IS a digital piano, not a keyboard, everything you need is there (great sound, great action, ease of use). 88 fully [graded] weighted keys. I don't think polyphony is an issue with the p80, ive never heard a note drop out, even just mashing the keys TRYING to get drop out. It comes with chorus/reverb/symphonic/delay as built in effects, but I havent quite figured those out yet. Two track recorder, simple to use, for those times where you're laying in bed and have this really awesome tune pop in your head, and you just jump up, record it, and sleep easy. Midi is very simple, but its good enough for what I use it for. It has 2 headphones, R/L (L+R), RCA, and the midi for outputs, so you can hook it up to basically anything you can find.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
It has 4 piano sounds (grand, classic, jazz, rock), 2 electric pianos, harpsichord, strings, 3 organs (church, pipe, jazz), and bass.
The piano sounds are excellent, I would have to say through a decent sound system, it sounds better than my upright, and the studio grand at my church.
The only other sounds I use in songs are the electric pianos (sometimes layered with piano), strings, and the jazz organ. The harpsichord and bass are fun to play with too, but not something I would be able to use in performances. I would consider the two organs (pipe / church) unusable (hence the 9 rating)
Reliability
:
No Opinion
I take good care of it, and it takes care of me. I've never had a problem with it. I left it as 'no opinion' because it mostly stays at my house, cept on fridays and sundays when I play at the church, and its never been anywhere it could be punished by either people or the elements.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Never had to deal with them, and if things keep going the way they are, I shouldnt have to.
Overall Rating
:
10
If this were lost or stolen, Id gather the money up ASAP and get a new one. For being under $900, it is fantastic.
I've been playing since December of 2001, so just under two years. Until I bought it in march of this year (2003) I had been using either the grand pianos at my location, or my Radio Shack MD-1160. Although the RS wasn't any good, I'm glad i had it to learn on. Having only 61 keys, and 8 note polyphony, It was bad. August of 2002 I decided that I needed to upgrade to 88/weighted keys. The Korg SP-200 was the first one that I saw. I believe I was attracted to it because of its simplistic design (no useless LEDs and confusing buttons to look at). Luckily I went home and did a little research and found the P80, as the SP-200 pales in comparison (in both sound, action and features). The only thing that the p80 is missing (which the korg had) is a wurly sound, I can get by with using soundfonts on my computer. I can spend hours at a time (usually late at night) just playing it, and not have to worry about waking everybody in my house up.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $850
Submitted 06/22/2003
at 06:30pm
by Troy
Email: troy<at>thedocmatch dot com
Ease of Use
:
7
Software? For midi sequencing Cakewalk and for audio editing N-trak.
Presets sound better than most keyboards that I've tested.
It is rather cumbersome editing patches because the onboard screen does not display very much useful info. I wish the onboard display and control panels were setup with features like the Yamaha PSR 520 which was my first keyboard, but I did not buy the P80 for its synth features.
With the P80 you live or die by the manual, which I keep in a very safe place. You will definitely need the manual for setting the midi functions if you use midi.
Features
:
10
The polyphony is fine except of course the number of voices to choose from are very limited.
THE ACTION IS WHERE IT IS AT! The action is really the reason that I bought this keyboard. My old Yamaha PSR 520 has good enough sounds for midi usage, but the P80 action is more similar to the grand piano that I used to mess with when I studied at the Conservatory of Music in Kansas City. I was NOT a piano major, but I do remember how tight the action on a real grand piano is. Also, my mom has a Yamaha upright that she has had for about 30 years that sounds and feels just like the P80. I love the action because I play smoother and steadier scale runs than on the PSR 520 or on the Roland RD 500.
The built in effects are limited to brighter/darker, reverb and touch sensitivity. To use the main effects is very easy -- dummy proof. This is a big plus because if my second keyboardist plays my keyboard, I'll have no problem getting it back to my preferred settings. The Roland RD500 that I've played onstage for the last year always gets set to some oddball setting by the other keyboardists.
As far as I know this keyboard has no expansion slots.
Keys send velocity to midi sequencer and foot pedal. I'm not aware of any other info that it sends.
Has a limited onboard sequencer that is easy to use. I believe that it is limited to one song on sequencer, which has to be deleted before recording another one.
Even though the built in effects and midi function are limited, I rated this category a 10 because the action is so good.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
No Opinion
Music styles: good for classical, rock, and jazz. I don't think it has enough synth features for euro dance music.
Just as others have said, through headphones, the piano sounds will rival anything out there that I've heard. I too experienced some shrillness when directly patched into my home stereo system. I then patched into my Mackie mixing board and into a 600 watt Crown amp with 2 large concert-style speakers and found a lot different response. To get the best sound you have to use two 1/2 inch patch cables hard panned left and right on two separate channels. This optimizes the sound separation coming out in stereo. I also elevated the speakers about 3 feet off of the floor on speaker stands and got it up to 120-140 decibels to test for distortion. I could hear no distortion and the sound was very similar to what you get through the headphones. I believe it will voice very well for medium to large amplification settings.
Onboard effects are good, but limited.
It reacts very well to my playing, however the pedal does tend to cut off abruptly too often. I have two pedals that I've tried on it and get the same response. You can even make the low strings rattle when you pound it (which is pretty neat). The low end does get muddy if you don't watch it, but that is true to what a real piano will usually do.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
Yes, I think you can depend on it. I did buy a nice Gator hard case with rollers for the road to protect my P80. I could always fall back on the old PSR520 standby, but it would be hard because it does not have full size 88 weighted keys like the P80.
I've only had the P80 for a couple months, but my PSR 520 is still going strong after about 7 years with minor midi connector problems due to too much plugging and unplugging.
Can't rate it for at least another year for reliability.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
No support requests yet.
Overall Rating
:
10
Yes, Id buy it again because of the superb action.
I've been playing for 11 years regularly.
Love the action, hate midi setup awkwardness.
Compared it to many other keyboards and could not find a more realistic feeling piano for the price.
Wish it had all the voices that the PSR 520 has and wish it had a more extensive onbaord control screen.
Definitely helps me make music.
Overall a good buy as long as you are looking for a realistic piano playing experience. Not the tool for a midi songwriter who needs lots of flexibility.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $850
Submitted 05/29/2003
at 09:44am
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
10
Very easy to use. Almost everything you need to use is connected straight to a button - no twiddling through menus. The manual does a good job of explaining everything, although you almost don't need it.
Features
:
9
64 note polyphony, you have to work really hard to even tell there's a limit. Effects are easy to use, don't sound that great. I don't use them much. Has MIDI in / out, plus a "host" port to connect directly to a computer. No aftertouch. Sequencer ("recorder" is dead stupid, easy to use.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
If you want to play a "real piano" for this price, this one is it.
The grand piano sounds great. Great response, lots of layers. The action is a bit heavy for those of who are used to electronic keyboards, but that's what it's for.
Sound depends a lot on speaker placement. With the internal speakers, the P120 and 200 sound good from the audience, but not so good from where you're playing. A lot of the "furniture" digitals aim the speakers at your legs, sound muddy to the player. You need to aim the speakers at your ears.
Strings and organ pretty good. Other acoustic pianos are good, I just don't use electric pianos and harpsichord.
Reliability
:
10
Never seen anything made by Yamaha fail, ever.
Customer Support
:
7
However good they may be about building stuff, Yamaha doesn't "get" computers. Trying to find / download the computer driver for the host cable, had to look through several Web pages, finally got a bad description and a scary warning about the driver. Installed it anyway, works fine.
Overall Rating
:
10
Definately a keeper. I'd buy another one right away. The Korg SP200 comes close, has lighter action, almost as good sound.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $850.00
Submitted 04/27/2003
at 04:16pm
by Ian Hagerman
Email: ian dot hagerman<at>telecom dot co dot nz
Ease of Use
:
10
I bought this piano a few weeks ago and so far so good,I also bought a motif 6 now for more techno sounds ect.This piano is dead easy to use,great sounds and so far no problems with polyphony
Features
:
8
Well this is a digital piano ,nothing more nothing less,has a great little sequencer though,I have not tried the MIDI functions yet.I had to get used to the keys as I found them a little heavy at first.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
Very good sounds especially the Jazz piano and classic.On attack its not bad at all,I have been playing for 25 years now.
Reliability
:
10
Robust,I have never giged with it so i canot comment here
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
n/a
Overall Rating
:
10
I must admit,this is good value for what you pay,it is a hard piano to beat.I have been playing piano most of my life and have immigrated to a new country(my acoustic paino is still at home)so I bought the P80,and honestly I am satisfied with this product,and sometimes I forget I am actually playing a digital piano.I would buy it again if it were stolen.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $764.69
Submitted 04/20/2003
at 02:09pm
by Joe
Email: ean60c<at>hotmail dot com
Ease of Use
:
9
The manual is almost unneeded. I wanted to answer the question of the review submitter before me. I also thought the piano sounded very different through the headphones as opposed through a keyboard amp. I ended up putting it directly into my sound system at home through the cd input of the receiver. It works great and sounds just like it does through the headphones. I do have 12" speakers in the stereo.
Features
:
9
All been said before. I love mine. I am currently playing Fionna Apple's "Never is a Promise". I put the baseline on the strings setting and play the song itself in the grand piano settin. Sound stinking G!!!R!!!E!!!!A!!!T!!!
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
I love it. I tried all and just fell for this unit.
Reliability
:
9
I bought this through www.music123.com as a "factory refurbished unit" with all warranty and manuals original box ect. Saved $150 and have had for 6 months with no problem.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Never needed them, which speaks volumes in my opinion.
Overall Rating
:
10
I really wanted the Korg SP500, but the more I researched and tested pianos, the more the p80 kept going to the top of the list. I tried the Kerzweil, yamaha, korg, ect....ect...ect..... I just could not get away from this piano. I really didn't like the looks of it, I wanted more features, And I wanted a BIG window for ettings. But evey time for the money this piano kept coming up. I read all the reviews and didn't fing many unhappy owners. I bought it and I have never been sorry.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 700 (GBP)
Submitted 04/08/2003
at 12:22pm
by Steve T
Email: styson<at>solihull dot faurecia dot com
Ease of Use
:
6
The menus for Midi channel and other settings are pretty odd - but no real trouble and hardly ever touched after initial set-up.
Why does the unit respond so strangely to Midi programme change commands, and why does it play so strangely over MIDI?? I tried it with a PF80 piano and couldn't get it to work well at all. The velocity response was really odd. I know it isn't a PF80 problem as I've used it with many Midi sound sources over the years.....
Features
:
7
Hate the external PSU - it wouldn't have added much at all to the weight to fit the unit with an IEC socket and a voltage sensing PSU.
Would have preferred more focus on just the Grand piano sound. I don't know how much memory was used, but knowing Yamaha, probably only a few kilobytes (!!) and so the other sounds are a waste of space and memory. But if they'd added a CP70B setting I'd have forgiven them anything.....so I suppose I contradict myself!
But I can't complain really - the keyboard is fantastic, the unit is as light as a feather and if someone could tell me why it sounds lovely through the headphones but terrible through external monitors (good ones!!) then I would be happy as hell.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
8
The Grand Piano (which is the only sound I bought this unit for) is fantastically playable through the headphones. However, I just CANNOT get a decent sound through external monitors - it sounds so thin and weedy that I thought there was a fault. I just don't understand it.......help!!!
So I only ever play through 'phones. Any explanation anyone??
Reliability
:
10
No issues.
Customer Support
:
10
No Issues - never needed so I guess 10
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 04/06/2003
at 02:43pm
by Bernhard M.
Email: maechler<at>hotmail dot com
Ease of Use
:
10
The P-80 is very easy to use - it's simple but functional. All connections are placed on the left side - much more practical and faster to access than on the rear. There are two headphone outs plus a separate chinch line out - well thought - I appreciate this!
Features
:
10
I had never troubles with polyphony - 64 voices are enough even for full scale arpeggios. The only sound I use is the piano - the rest is useless. But the real point is the keyboard action: most actions have an unnaturally high upweight when hold down - you can't play piano parts (try this with chopin prelude nr.4 in e-minor - left hand!) - not yamaha: it works! They have done a great job - it's the only company that really knows how a real piano action feels because they build very good real grand pianos. Compared to a steinway the action is too heavy, but the weight curve of the key's way down is very close to the real grand action. I've tried all devices available from roland to technics (exept kawai) - but nothing compared to yamaha. It allows you to play classical stuff without feeling that there's something not right under your fingers. This is rare.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
For a digital piano the sound is very good and well tempered - nothing gets you on the nerves (most other digi pianos have some notes you can't hear any more after some days). The only shortcut compared to a streaming giga piano sample is the less natural release phase and the too short high notes. But combined with a good room reverb this gets in the background. I did some classical recordings and refined them with a convolving reverb - nobody thought there was no real piano (even long time pianists!). what I like especially is the dynamic range of the sample: piano is soft, warm and sweet, and on the fff side, you can really beat the keys like a fool (what I like with single notes!) and you still get more brillance and power! Most samples, even the very good (giga based) ones, are limited on the top side - you can't get more - what I hate. A real piano always gives you back what you put in! The Yamaha engineers seem to be pianists again. But the most important point is: the sound engine of the P80 is very well linked to the action - the two parts are absolutely perfectly aligned to each other.
This mostly is the biggest problem when playing a sample with a master keyboard - the two sides do not match and you don't get perfect control - even if the sample is perfect. You have to program velocity curve mappings for hours 'till it feels "right". Yamaha has done the job for you - it's perfect from the first note on. But be aware: this perfect conrol you will only have over the internal sound. I tried to use the P80 as masterkeyboard for the giga Steinway B - but I was not happy - it didn't feel right.
Reliability
:
10
Yamaha is a very professional company - so are their products. They are all very reliable. I had never any problems with the P80.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
never used it
Overall Rating
:
10
If u wanna get a digital substitute for a real piano and nothing more, I stronly recommend you to get the P80 - there's no alternative. It does the job. It's very transportable (you can take it under your arm!) and there's nothing you don't need. And it has closest action to the real piano available. The P80 is an instrument obviously made by pianists and not by technicians. I only can congratulate Yamaha for this excellent product.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 910 (EUR)
Submitted 02/07/2003
at 01:01am
by Francis Byrne
Email: byrnefmNOSPAM at yahoo<dot>ie
Ease of Use
:
9
I have no problems using the P80 for what I bought it for - as an alternative to a physical piano (since my room is not large enough to hold one!). I switch it on, adjust the keypress setting and play. I've read through the manual to see if I was missing anything important but until I want to start making sequences or recording my work, I don't find it necessary to refer to it.
The presets sound very good, though again because of why I bought it, I mostly stick to the regular piano sounds (classic & grand).
Features
:
9
The features are exactly what I wanted in a digital piano - good piano sound, properly weighted keys and a full-length keyboard. The keys are a little heavy (compared with several real pianos I've played on) but when taking piano lessons, the pianos supplied for use also had heavy keys so this wasn't an issue.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
6
I have to say I don't really notice any difference between the hard/normal/soft touch options. One thing which annoys me is that if I play notes too lightly on the grand/classic piano settings, no sound is produced but if I play the same way on the electric piano setting, a faint sound is still produced, as I would have expected. For pieces with a lot of pianissimo, this is very annoying. Maybe this does reflect the actual response of a heavy-key action piano - I've only used light-touch pianos apart from my P80 over the last two years. Perhaps someone could enlighten me?
Apart from the above niggles, I am happy with how the P80 sounds - with headphones on, I could be playing an actual piano! The keys react exactly as I would expect from an actual piano. I rate this section a '6' as the key response does bother me.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
I've had it under a year so far but have not had any problems with it to date!
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I haven't had to deal with support and if the reliability is what I've heard about it so far, I shouldn't have to either :-)
Overall Rating
:
8
My overall rating:
- if stolen, I'd look around first before getting a P80 again, mostly because of the piano not sounding with moderately light key presses. There should be a wider range of touch sensitivity settings.
- the feel of the keys is great and the action of the keys is brilliant
- the piano sounds are also excellent
- compared with the pricing of other similarly feature-rich electric pianos, the P80 is priced extremely competitively.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 2100 (Australian Dollars)
Submitted 02/05/2003
at 04:18am
by Edwin Fernandes
Email: EdwinFernandes13<at>hotmail dot com
Ease of Use
:
9
Mostly very easy to use. Some of the stuff that I don't look at often needs a quick flick through the manual but that's rare. For playing, recording, listening to preset songs and fiddling with effects it's all self-explanatory. I believe if you hook it up to a computer you can do all sorts of stuff to the patches but I haven't tried yet.
Features
:
8
64 note polyphony I believe. It has the best action of all the keyboards I tried, mainly due to it being quite a bit heavier than the others. The action is also progresively weighted, so the lower keys are heavier. I believe there are 8 different wieghted sections across the 88 keys. The Kawai MP9000 has wooden keys and springs up a bit better, but that was much more expensive (and much bigger).
It has a couple of inbuilt effects (4) and 4 different types of reverb, which is plenty for me. Also has a brilliance slider which makes quite a big difference to the sound. Simplicity itself to use. Comes with a simple 2 track recorder which is nice, and a metronome.
I haven't messed around with the midi features but it is lacking pitch and modulation wheels and doesn't have a midi through port, so maybe you should look elsewhere if you want to use this as a controller.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
Grand piano sounds brilliant. I can pick up a bit of noise when I press the keys, but that could just be my headphones. I'd also prefer if the pedal was gradual rather than being on/off, but appart from those two issues no complaints regarding the grand piano sound. The others are definitely usable and sound great to me, but you probably wouldn't want to perform with them.
Reliability
:
10
This section is why I wrote this. When I first got it I set it up on a dodgy AUS$50 stand - big mistake! Stood there for about 5 seconds before collapsing, sending my precious $2000 instrument 70cms towards the floor. After a bit of hammering away at the stand I set it up again and tried it out - no problems whatsoever. It's collected some paint where it hit the wall on the way down, and the plasic bit at the end of the keyboard's shifted a little, but these are only minor cosmetic problems. Very impressive.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Never dealt with Yamaha.
Overall Rating
:
9
Certainly worth the money. I bought it from an internet site based in Belgium (I live in Australia) and saved $900 on the RRP. I don't think I could've got it for any less than $2500 in Australia.
THe P80 was the best choice for my uses and still is. Assuming I had the money I'd definitely buy another one if this one was stolen (don't think I could lose it though).
I compared this to the P200, FP90, MP9000 and various Clavinovas. This had the best action and sounds, and it weights only 16kg. The only minus points for me really are the on/off pedal and that slight noise I hear when I play. I can only hear it if I concerntrate mind you, and it'd probably dissapear if I was playing through some good quality monitors.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 850
Submitted 01/01/2003
at 02:09pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
9
intuitive controls with the exception of the function menu which you'll probably need a reference card for. As a pianist there isn't anything in the menu that i need to access regularly anyway.
Features
:
No Opinion
no onboard expansion capabilities, you can of course add external midi units. I havn't dont this so I dont know how easy it is to do. 64note polyphony.
The keyboard action is superb. I simply couldn't put up with the other keyboard actions I tried, most are too light, stop too short, or a weighted uniformally across the keyboard.
Excellent size and weight, very portable, doesnt take up more space than a full sized keyboard needs.
Brilliance slider can be useful varying slightly from the centre position to fine tune the sound but tends to sound silly at either extreme (for what I play anyway)
2 track sequencer is handy for overlaying parts of a composition to see how well they work with each other, or as a quick 'notepad' of musical ideas. obvious enough to use, cant remember the number of notes it holds but it's more than i've ever needed it to :)
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
great piano sounds, benifits a lot from some simple EQing to reduce parts of the mid range. For music where you play a lot of notes at once it can sound a little muddy without the eq adjustment, but for most stuff it's great as it is.
I cant hear the point where the piano sounds start to loop. Other sounds are ok, most loop a lot more obviously if you're listening out for it. I personally wouldnt use any non-piano sound in a performance or recording, but they're worth checking out, they might lend themselves more to your music.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
very well built, nothing that i'm worried about breaking, the keyboard has been about a bit n copes great. I am nice to it tho and there havnt been any incidents where
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
never needed them
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 10500 (fim)
Submitted 12/14/2002
at 09:09am
by AJS
Email: ajs at letku<dot>net
Ease of Use
:
No Opinion
Features
:
No Opinion
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
No Opinion
Reliability
:
No Opinion
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
10
Just an addition to my previous review of this product: I have just returned from a live TV gig, where I played four songs using only this piano. My friends said that the P80 sounded tremendous on TV, just like a real grand sounds. Indeed. This is the best instrument I have ever had during my career.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $900
Submitted 12/10/2002
at 01:30pm
by Greg
Ease of Use
:
9
Easy. No problem firing this unit up and making music. Nice selection (however redundant) of outs: L/R RCA ; L/R 1/4" ; 2 headphone outs, midi in and out, serial or PS/2 out.
The piano is delicious. I don't understand why people want their pianos so bright. Maybe as kids, their mallets were all dried out. Wah. I think this is a fine piano sound, EXCEPT FROM C4 to C5.
Here, the looping begins SOOOO soon at a low playing volume, there's no piano-ness, almost a beeping mixed with a thunk. (I excel at description, no?)
This is an area of the keyboard that sounds better when played louder. I dunno.
The manual is nearly apologetic. It should be easy to change performance parameters. Why should I need a manual? a laminated card? a freaking secret code? Aside from adding a little reverb or changing a sound or exploring a variation, you're going to really need the manual. Thankfully, it's well written.
Features
:
5
ACTION!
Yes, this has the finest keyboard action. Kurzweil's "weighted" sp-88 felt insubstantial and marshmallowey, and that was the contender. The Studiologic SL-880 was nice, but had a shallower action, no sounds.
Nothing else compared. Yamaha's "S" units were silly. Poor action, NOWHERE NEAR THIS CLASS. Sounds were too bright, synthy. Plus, what are all those other sounds doing there? Yes, the "S" keyboards have great sounds. They are not pianos. This is more like a piano.
This action is starchy. If you appreciate the piano, and have played it at all seriously, you'll likely enjoy this. There is a sure landing for the fingers, a sure grip, a substantiality to the keypress.
Effects? Sure, room, hall, stage. That's fine, but I'm happiest hearing the uneffected out. Very clean.
Sequencer is simple and useful. Consider that this board is happiest in a serious music school, a church (no back-panel wiring), or as a dedicated piano thing.
If you want a midi controller (in addition to a cool piano) you'll have the barest bones. No pitch or mod wheel, no midi THRU. Sad, sad. But this isn't for that.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
No Opinion
The piano is good. It becomes nearly transparent. It's me and the music coming out of my head and hands. That's great. Expressiveness and dynamic range are inspiring.
If you think some sounds are bad, try the variation. There's a good piano there.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
So far so good (1 week). If I were playing just piano, I would use it without any reservation. If, however, I added a tone module and hoped to switch between the onboard sounds and the outboard gear, I think I would leave the show halfway through. This is not very good as a controller. It's great as a standalone piano.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
10
This is the best piano, new, for the price.
I dislike that I can't make it more versatile, but have accepted this when faced with some of the other digital pianos for sale out there. The P80 is it. I'm not returning it for a more flexible keyboard; I'm eventually augmenting my setup with a flexible synth/controller. This machine does one thing very well. It offers you endless hours to find out where your muse can take you. Remember doing that at a PIANO? Sure, I'd buy it again.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $800
Submitted 11/11/2002
at 01:30pm
by Glenny
Ease of Use
:
8
Internal piano sounds are great for the money. Easy to operate, just plug in and away you go.
Features
:
10
64 polyphony really hits the mark for those long drawn out chord rolls! The manual has a great feel, just like a real piano. My main board is my p150 that I have had for several years, but it is so darn heavy to haul around! I still love it as one of the best pianos ever built by Yamaha. The biggest thing that sold me on the P80 was the weight and size, as well as the price. All patches are easy to access, though I didn't much like the slider transposer. I prefer the "hold down transpose while pressing the desired key on the console".
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
The sounds of the pianos are more than adequate for gigs with the band on weekends. I play rock, blues & country mostly, and the piano suited each of these catagories perfectly. I'll admit the sounds of my p150 are superior, but keep in mind I paid almost DOUBLE for that sucker.
Reliability
:
10
I started out playing Korgs about 20 years ago. I had problems galore! After buying my first Yamaha (an old Clavinova) I have bought nothing else but Yamaha pianos. Although, I prefer Roland amplifiers to run any keyboard through, but that's a different story for another day! Yamaha keyboards remain the most durable boards on the market. I have spilled countless beers and mixed drinks in my P150 and it continues to deliver. I plan to be more careful with the 80 though...
I do my own repairs on all my keyboards, and this is one more reason I understand just how well built Yamaha boards are. I have friends who play Rolands, and they break down occasionally. My p150 has NEVER broke down before. I do take it apart and clean it once a year, nontheless. They simply can't be beat. I'm sure my P80 will give me years of uninterupted service.
Customer Support
:
10
I have ordered spare parts from Yamaha only once, but the receptionist was extremely courteous and helpful.
Overall Rating
:
10
I recorded a CD at a friend's house and he had bought a P80. So, I just used it for the recording instead of lugging my monster P150 with me every time. That's how I came to appreciate the P80. It sounded great on all the tracks and I love the sequencer. I've been playing every weekend at local clubs in the Atlanta GA area for about 20 years, and until now, it was all but impossible to find a keyboard small and light enough to make moving equipment a simple task. The P80 changes all of that. In short, it is a God send!
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 10/12/2002
at 11:18pm
by Michael D
Ease of Use
:
No Opinion
I think this is a good concept but you need some ergonomic improvements. Position the signal and power connections on the back of the keyboard facing the audience like other keyboards. It accomplishes two things:
1. It makes the P-80 shorter (shorter is always better), easier to move and manuever, and will fit into smaller cases.
2. Makes P-80 faster and easier to set up/tear down on pro gigs because it puts all your cable connections for multiple keyboard setups on one plane (back of the keyboards) for live gigs.
Features
:
No Opinion
I love the keyboard action. I still think Yamaha's weighted action is the best in the business.
I love the 37 pound weight. I wish it could keep that action and be even lighter.....Well you can't have everything.
Make that power transformer cable thicker.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
No Opinion
The acoustic piano sound could definitely be improved. It sounds too thin. I wish some kind of chip or card was available to upgrade the sounds.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $795
Submitted 10/01/2002
at 04:27pm
by Jurgen
Ease of Use
:
9
Ease of use for this portable digital piano is exceptional. It's pretty much "plug and play" ready, and since with a limited number of patches and settings, there isn't too much to confuse the user.
Features
:
7
As a scaled-down version from Yamaha's flagship P-200 digital piano, this one is not exceptionally feature rich. However it gets high marks for having the same excellent action as the P-200 (best in the business, I believe) and for weighing only 37 pounds.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
5
This is the weakness of this unit. None of the piano samples are stereo patches, and compared to the P-150 or P-200, they simply cannot compete. While some reviewers rated these patches highly, I found all four piano patches to be mediocre. The other patches are fine, but again, especially for the organ and electric piano patches, not nearly as good as the P-200.
Reliability
:
10
All my Yamaha gear has been exceptionally reliable to date.
Customer Support
:
8
Never needed customer support for the P-80. Yamaha customer support for other products (sound cards, software) has been generally good.
Overall Rating
:
7
This piano is a good option as an alternative to the pricier and much heavier P-200. The action is great, the size is just right. However, for the serious gigging musician I think the piano patches are somewhat deficient. This may be remediable through a high-quality tone generator, as the piano makes an excellent midi keyboard on par with the Fatar keyboards.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: N/A used
Submitted 08/15/2002
at 06:16pm
by Phillip
Email: phillip<at>west dot com dot au
Ease of Use
:
No Opinion
I have played the piano since I was six. I am now 60. I studied classical piano at Music School. In my late 20's I sustained serious RSI injuries to my right hand. I did not know at the time but I was slowly going deaf from
Otosclerosis and the resultant RSI was exacerbated by playing strenuous music with a hearing impairment. I loved the music but was overextending myself due to lack of feedback. I had a forced layoff during my early 30's when I concentrated on an academic career in another field.
In my late 30's I had a double Stapedectomy (Stapes replaced by prosthesis). The operation on the right ear was a failure but there was considerable success with the left. I went back to the piano
and during my 40's and 50's I gave several piano recitals until my hearing deteriorated and the feedback from the instrument faded again. In 2000 gave my last recital.
Then there was 9/11. My best friend died in the WTC and I was asked to give a recital in NY in his memory on what would have been his birthday. I now live on the other side of the world.
I went back to work on the piano but with the increased hearing loss it was most unsatisfactory. Then, through searching the Internet and this page I discovered the Yamaha 80. As a student I had my own silent practice keyboard. When I returned to playing after my operations I used a electronic keyboard with headphones to rework my technique. I discovered a near new P80 for sale and bought it. I also bought a good set of headphones.
I loved the instrument from the beginning. For the first time in many years I had a brand new keyboard to work on. It may not be Steinway but I was getting more from an instrument than I had in years and of better quality. I have all the feedback I can handle. I don't disturb anyone, even if I work in the middle of the night. I can play
entirely for myself and am liberated to practice when and how I want. It is like having my own sound isolated practice studio at the center of my everyday living.
I found the pedal very unsatisfactory. I am not sure if that is due to my hearing impairment or if it is a technical inadequacy. So I decided to remove the pedal and return to the cradle of Clavier music - Bach. That is where I want to be anyway.
For my recital in NY, the P80 (setting Grand Piano/Variation) will be plugged into a PC sound card with the signal converted into MP3 format and streamed live at a prearranged time to a select audience through the Internet. I will be playing Bach Partitas and I'll be at home.
Features
:
No Opinion
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
No Opinion
Reliability
:
No Opinion
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
No Opinion
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $900
Submitted 08/11/2002
at 07:05pm
by Eric Anthony
Email: daed_si_luap<at>yahoo dot com
Ease of Use
:
8
Plenty easy to use. You hit the key, the note plays, ha ha. I don't
edit patches, so can't tell you about that. The only fancy thing I
do is use a Voce V5 module for Hammond organ; there's no real quick &
easy way to switch between that & an onboard sound (like, say, a
footswitch).
Features
:
5
Keyboard action is ok, but a very hard stop at the bottom -- I'm
probably going to get rid of it because of that, my wrists & forearms
hurt after an hour or so. If you play hard like me, it'll get you
too. My primary keyboard is a Kawai MP9000, so maybe I'm spoiled.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
5
Sounds decent, but not great. Again, spoiled by MP9000. Almost all
sounds better in the middle of the register than on the ends.
The piano sounds go well with some songs, and not so well in some
others. The electric pianos are unusable; EP2 isn't too far off,
but the difference between the "regular" & "hard" Rhodes (depending
on how hard you play it) is WAY too jarring. The jazz organ is
better than nothing, but as I said before, I have a Voce V5. :-)
I wanted a keyboard with a clav sound, but nothing in this price range
does. I play rock, blues, jazz, & classical, and it seems like in
general that the keyboard sounds better at home than with the band.
Reliability
:
10
Have only owned it for a couple of months, but it seems solid.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I have some vague recollection of once asking Yamaha a question, and
getting a prompt response, but I might be imagining things.
Overall Rating
:
7
When I bought this keyboard, I was looking for a very portable
keyboard that I could keep at home to play with & serve as a backup
for my primary piece (MP9000). The P80 isn't an awful keyboard, and
you could do a lot worse in this price range, but I'm probably still
going to get rid of it, because of the wrist fatigue thing. If
that's not a problem for you, then I'd say it's a decent little
keyboard -- nothing that'll blow you away, but you won't have wasted
your money.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $900
Submitted 08/02/2002
at 09:42pm
by Guacho
Ease of Use
:
8
This keyboard is very easy to use. All of the sounds and a lot of the other options (effects, sensitivity, etc.) are all a front-panel button push away. However, the display is small which makes the more advanced functions impossible without the manual. The manual is well written and informative and guides you through any more advanced function easily.
Features
:
9
The P80 is not a feature laden keyboard, but then again its not meant to be. This keyboard has the best action of any synth that I have ever played. I actually prefer the action on my P80 over a lot of acoustic pianos! Effects are easy to use and sufficient, but are somewhat limited. The reverbs are nice. It also has a 2 track practice recorder, a metronome, and a lot of demos (which are good to play along with if you want to learn them). I took off a point in this category because it is pretty bad as a midi controller.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
8
The grand piano preset is amazing. It sounds almost exactly like a real piano (nothing can ever sound EXACTLY like a piano of course). The classical piano sound is very dark, the jazz piano kind of thin, and the rock piano is very bright and sounds like a tack piano. All in all, the other three piano presets are good and have their own applications, but they are not as good as the outstanding grand piano sound. The electric pianos arent too good, but I think it's because they don't suit my tastes (I've never been a fan of the DX7 piano sound). I really wish it had a good Rhodes and a Wurly sound instead of a lame DX7 and weak Rhodes sound. The Rhodes preset, while not too good, has a nice mellow sound and if you play hard has a cool "smacked" sound. The harpsichord presets are thin sounding. The strings are kind of blah but they are useable, especially when layered with the grand piano patch. The acoustic bass sound is alright. I like it because you can have it play with a ride cymbal sound at the same time which is cool for jazzy walking basslines. The pipe organ sounds pretty authentic, but the church organ sound is kind of weak (very mellow tho). The jazz organ is good for clean, articulate solos, but I wish it had a B3 sound instead. Overall, the sounds are excellent and react very well to your playing.
Reliability
:
10
This thing is "built like a tank" as the cliche goes. Once when I was getting off the stage after a gig the shoulder strap on my case broke (never jump with a heavy keyboard on your shoulder!) The right side of the keyboard fell about 6 or 7 feet in its thinly padded case and smashed into the ground. The plastic side piece dented and got seperated a bit, but to my suprise it still worked perfectly! Also, a guitar pick somehow fell in between one of the keys and is stuck in the keybed. This also had no effect on the functionality of this keyboard. Very solid.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
I've never dealt with Yamaha.
Overall Rating
:
8
This is an excellent keyboard. IMHO, this is the best digital piano currently on the market for musicians who need a high quality portable piano. I've been playing for 15 years and I play everything from classical to jazz to rock, and this keyboard suits my needs perfectly. The P80 has amazing piano sounds and unbeatable action, however you may have to look elsewhere if you want really good electric pianos and organs. At the time when I purchased my P80, I compared it to a Roland RD-150, and while the electric piano sound on the Roland was far superior, all of the other sounds were lacking and the action was just horrible. Since Yamaha has released the P120, the price on the P80 is dropping. At around $800 now, its an excellent value. Highly recommended.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 619 (Pounds (UK))
Submitted 08/02/2002
at 04:02am
by Mark
Ease of Use
:
9
It's a piano not a synth so pretty straightforward! Button layout is nice and clear with each main function having it's own button (e.g. touch). Piano presets are superb - no real need for tinkering and there is a mellow/bright slider to change tone. Limited editing but then this is only really a piano so you shouldn't really need or expect more.
Features
:
9
64 note polyphony - more than adequate. The action is truly amazing for the money. I have spent the last two weeks trying out all sorts of digital pianos right up to #2000 (including Technics PX662/664, Roland HP3, and the new Clavinova range - very disappointing due to poor samples) and this is far and away the best i have come across. The Korg SP200 has an ok action but the samples are terrible. Hard to believe but the P80 samples are superior to the Clavinova CLP110/120/130. Not sure about expansion/midi/sequencer stuff yet as I have not had it long enough to suss the limitations but i did not really buy it for that. For the price this has all i need - a superb action and very realistic samples.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
The four piano sounds are excellent - esp the Grand and Classic. The samples are very realistic and there is no perceptible switch to the sustain loop - the attack, sustain and decay are all exceptional for the money and as good as anything i have tried up to #2000. The notes really sing and the sustain sounds natural. Can't praise the action or sounds enough - allows for very expressive performance. I am classically trained and have played numerous top quality acoustic pianos (including Steinway grands) and the action on this compares very favourably. Very, very impressive.
Other sounds are ok for the money but not particularly faithful reproductions - the harpsichord sucks!
Giving a 10 as this is a piano and the piano sounds are top notch.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
It's a Yamaha so I am hoping (fingers crossed) that there'll be no problems with it.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Don't know yet.
Overall Rating
:
10
Would definitely buy another - it's the best digital piano i have tried and believe me i have tried shedloads! This is the best sounding digital piano for the money and i got it at a bargain price too! Love the stereo samples and the action is truly wonderful - all subjective i know but from a classical point of view i think it is outstanding. Action is slightly heavy but then most quality piano actions are. Wish the other voices were better but chances are i won't bother using them anyway. This is an instrument that most definitely inspires you to play and i could have spent hours in the shop playing it - can't say fairer than that!
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $845
Submitted 06/27/2002
at 04:21pm
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
10
1. Turn it on.
2. Plug in headphones.
3. Play.
If you want to split the keyboard or change the temperament, it's a bit harder and will require a reading of the manual.
Features
:
8
Polyphony -- no problem. It has minimal MIDI and doodads, but that is not its purpose. It's a piano substitute, so I rate it as such.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
The 4 pianos all sound great (Grand, Classical, Jazz, Rock). The Grand is the biggest and brightest. The Classical sounds like a grand, but voiced softer (voicing in the technical way -- meaning how it would sound if a technician softened the hammers). The other sounds are really just "gimme's." I bought it as a piano substitute, so I give a 10.
The action is great! It feels like a proper piano -- amazing for something under $1,000. I'm very happy with it.
Reliability
:
10
It's a Yamaha, what can I say? Metal casing with plastic side caps. Very solid-feeling.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
No experience with this yet.
Overall Rating
:
10
I'd definitely buy another. I love the piano sound and feel. I'm a professional musician, and I am able to practice diligently for a couple hours without stopping, so this was for my neighbors benefit -- I can practice late at night without worrying. It is exactly what I wanted it to be -- a piano substitute. I find my practice on it translates easily to an acoustic piano, which is exactly why I bought it.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: 619 (pounds)
Submitted 05/29/2002
at 12:10pm
by Daren Arthur
Email: darren<dot>arthur at ntlworld<dot>com
Ease of Use
:
9
Plug in and play,very instructive manual if you need it
Features
:
9
More than enough features for a piano.I play mainly synths but wanted a good piano stand alone.Going from synth action to piano weighted keys was a concern but after owning my p80 after 1 month there is nothing on earth to make me want a good piano feel on a synthy like action like the rs-9 roland.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
10
It was the main piano sound that sold it to me .I,m comparing the roland rd 700 which was twice the price and I nearly bought it.As far as the piano sound is concerned I think the p80 is better and way much better than the rs-9.the rest of the presets are good.
Reliability
:
9
Yamaha is reliable
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
n/a
Overall Rating
:
10
If it was lost or stolen it would probably be a roland owner.I would have to replace it.Love everything about it and never look back
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $900
Submitted 05/25/2002
at 11:19am
by Marc Ellis
Email: ellis<at>nternet dot com
Ease of Use
:
10
Turn it on. Plug it in. Push a button. Hit a note. Hear the sound.
Features
:
5
It is a digital piano. No on-board speakers. Very few patches.
I did not like the key action. The key action was stiff
and heavy for my fingers. I returned the unit after 1 day.
I played it for 1/2 hour and my tendons, fingers and forearms
were aching the rest of the day. It was not a pleasure to play
this instrument. So I returned it.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
8
Piano sounds fantastic. The other sounds are good.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
I'm sure it is reliable. But I'll never find out.
I wouldn't gig with it. It is too ****ed heavy to
carry around.
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Yamaha is a great company.
Overall Rating
:
5
I kept it one day and then traded it in on a new Roland RS-9.
I'm very happy I did. I love the action on the RS-9. It's also
a lot lighter to carry around than the P80.
I won't buy another P80. But Yamaha is a great company.
I'd like to own a Motif 8.
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: N/A
Submitted 05/24/2002
at 09:03am
by Jonathan Kandell
Email: jkandell at sysmatrix<dot>net
Ease of Use
:
8
Features
:
5
Don't listen to those who say this is just like a piano. It's piano-like, good enough for most classical, better than most other company's, but not a piano. For one, keys don't bounce back enough for really fast repetition on single key. Board is identical to P120 without sound, but with sound requires more push to get note, so feels heavier.
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
7
If you use this for gigging, there is no need for inbuilt speakers. But for sound alone, I respectfully disagree with those who say the P80 piano sample is superior to P120 for classical music. To my ears the P80 sounds dull, lifeless, distant, muddled compared to the P120. I agree with the commenter below who described the P80 sounding like it's "in the next room." In comparison, the P120 sounds alive, present, distinct, open. More like a real Yamaha acoustic, which is also relatively bright. Yes, the P120 is a bit tinny (less so in your living room since speakers reflect of walls), but not unusable for classical like those awful "rock" piano sounds. I found the low end on the P80 particularly muddled. The 120 also has a sustain sample, which you can mix in to the degree you want. It's not a miracle, but it does add to the realism by fleshing out the resonance a tad. The 80 sounds better in certain passages to me, but overall I prefer the 120 sound. Both lose some realism with larger chords. In short, the P120 isn't a better version of the same piano as P80. It's a better sample of a different sounding piano, so you need to reorient your mind if comparing them. I have a much longer comparison of the two on this site under the P120 category.
Reliability
:
No Opinion
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
Overall Rating
:
7
Product: Yamaha P80
Price Paid: US $800
Submitted 05/08/2002
at 04:58am
by Anonymous
Ease of Use
:
9
very easy to use (as there is almost nothing to use). I wish only that local on/off would have an assigned button, as I switch often between stage and studio use.
Features
:
9
poyphony: more than enough
effects: ok for on stage use
expansion: none
MIDI: it might sound odd, but as I use this thing as a master keyboard i my studio, a pitch and mod controller would haven been nice
sequencer: I never use it
Expressiveness/Sounds
:
9
Ofcourse I bought the P-80 for it's piano sound. The main piano sound is a delight to use and gets a 10. However, the other sounds are not usable for me at all:
rhodes: very noticable velocity switching and too harsh
organ: ok in midrange but terrible above C4
Reliability
:
8
rocksolid, 22 kg. Spilled soda on it but still works. Only the mains connection is terrible. It's too short!
Customer Support
:
No Opinion
never dealt with them
Overall Rating
:
9
I also tried the RD-150, but the piano sounded too bright for my taste. Also, I found the key action on the P80 more pleasant. But this is all a matter of taste.
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